Avis sur circuit au Maroc fin juin-début juillet
by Peghissima
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Moi et mon mari voulions des avis pratiques sur un circuit de 2 semaines qu'on vas faire vers la fin de Juin au Maroc:
1- Casa une nuit pour recuper aprés 16 heures de trajet
2- Train de Casa a Marrakech tôt le matin
3- Arrivé à Marrakech a Midi
4- Marrakech-Skoura avec Visite Aït Benhaddou
5- Randonnee soit vers le MGoum où la vallèe des Dades et dormir?
6- Randonnèe Gorges de Toudra et dormir a Midelt si c'est pratique?
7- Ifrane-Azrou
8- Fez
9- Fez
10- Fez-Volubilis-Moulay Driss Zerhoun
11- Meknes
12- Rabat
13 -Rabat
14 -Casa aéroport-Paris
On aura une voiture de tourisme et on voudrais completer soi la vallée des Dades où la La vallée de Todra. On a besoin d'avis sur ces routes. Si ces routes ne sont pas faisable est-ce que la route de Zaida (au Nord de Midelt) N13- R503-N8 est possible avec une voiture de tourisme et combien d'heures pour la traversée? Combien d'heures faut-il compter pour les randonnée dans les gorges pour des gens en forme? Suggestions pour hébergement aux environs des Gorges qui ne dépasse pas 50 Euro/nuit? On a déjà un guide pour Fez, Marrakech et Rabat. On a déjà l'hotel pour Marrakech, Fez et Casa. Un hôte, grace à ce Forum à Skoura. Merci d'avance pour tous vos avis et suggestions. C'est notre premier voyage au Maroc et on compte revenir de nouveau. On c'est qu'on ne peut pas tous faire dans un voyage.
Bonsoir
La randonnée vers les gorges du Todgha n est pas pratiquée, soit de faire une randonnée vers le M goun à partir du Skoura ou soit de faire une rando du la vallée des roses vers la vallée du Dades.
La randonnée vers les gorges du Todgha n est pas pratiquée, soit de faire une randonnée vers le M goun à partir du Skoura ou soit de faire une rando du la vallée des roses vers la vallée du Dades.
"montagne et désert est comme corps et esprit!"
On peut faire une très belle rando à partir de BOUCHARD dans la vallée des roses et partir vers les villages d'AMEJGAG et d'AMERSKAR.C'est vraiment très beau.Je vous conseille d'aller à l'hôtel AWAYOU, ils seront de bons conseils et ce secteur est vraiment magnifique.Cette rando vous conduit vers les sources du M GOUN .
SOJU
bonjour,
Je trouve que vous faites beaucoup de route en journée sur la première semaine. Notez qu'au Maroc, on roule sur nationale à une moyenne de 60 km/h, 50 en montagne (sans compter les pauses).
Je trouve aussi que vous changez très souvent de lieu d'hébergement. Puisque vous avez l'intention de revenir, peut-être pourriez-vous choisir entre les Gorges du Dades et les Gorges du Todgha, et y rester plus longtemps (ça vous laissera aussi l'opportunité de faire de longues randos si le coeur vous en dit). Entre Tinghir et Fes via Errachidia et Midelt, la route est très longue. Magnifique entre Errachidia et Midelt. A part les paysages, pas grand intérêt. Il fait très chaud dans la région d'Errachidia. Je ne saurai pas vous renseigner pour un hébergement sur cette route. Pour Fes-Meknes-Volubilis-Moulay Idriss, restez sur Fes ou sur Meknes. C'est très proche.
Sinon, je trouve le circuit pas mal, surtout en cette saison : mer et montagne, quand il commence à faire bien chaud, c'est bien !
Précision : le Ramadan commence vers le 30 juin. Les Marocains sont un peu tendus en cette période (parfois agressifs, mais c'est généralement entre eux !). Il faut être juste un peu tolérant.
Cordialement,
Je trouve que vous faites beaucoup de route en journée sur la première semaine. Notez qu'au Maroc, on roule sur nationale à une moyenne de 60 km/h, 50 en montagne (sans compter les pauses).
Je trouve aussi que vous changez très souvent de lieu d'hébergement. Puisque vous avez l'intention de revenir, peut-être pourriez-vous choisir entre les Gorges du Dades et les Gorges du Todgha, et y rester plus longtemps (ça vous laissera aussi l'opportunité de faire de longues randos si le coeur vous en dit). Entre Tinghir et Fes via Errachidia et Midelt, la route est très longue. Magnifique entre Errachidia et Midelt. A part les paysages, pas grand intérêt. Il fait très chaud dans la région d'Errachidia. Je ne saurai pas vous renseigner pour un hébergement sur cette route. Pour Fes-Meknes-Volubilis-Moulay Idriss, restez sur Fes ou sur Meknes. C'est très proche.
Sinon, je trouve le circuit pas mal, surtout en cette saison : mer et montagne, quand il commence à faire bien chaud, c'est bien !
Précision : le Ramadan commence vers le 30 juin. Les Marocains sont un peu tendus en cette période (parfois agressifs, mais c'est généralement entre eux !). Il faut être juste un peu tolérant.
Cordialement,
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Merci Elhine,
D'après vos infos, on choisiras entre Vallée des Dades et Todra. Si on fait la Vallée des Dades l'hébergement tu le ferais où laprès avoir quitté Skoura?
Peggy
Soju,
Votre itinéraire me tante car on est randonneurs de Montagnes. Merci Soju. Peggy
Dans le Dades j'aime bien m'arrêter à la kasbah AIT ARBI , c'est très bien situé , avec une jolie vue sur les célèbres doigts de singes, avec aussi de belles randos possibles directement au départ de la kasbah.Ils organisent aussi de sympathiques rando sur plusieurs jours avec des ânes où des visites aux nomades de la région .
Sinon, je suis désolé , effectivement c'est de Boutrahar qu'il s'agit.TAMALOUT BOUTRAHAR C'est super beau.
SOJU
Daniel,
D'après vous est-ce qu'on peut y aller avec une voiture de tourisme jusqu'à BOUTHRARAR?
Merci pur tes infos.
Peggy et John
Il fait très chaud dans la région d'Errachidia. Je ne saurai pas vous renseigner pour un hébergement sur cette route.
Je relève cette petite phrase 😉 Maison d'Hôtes Chez Moha, à Zouala, dans la superbe Palmeraie du même nom, au coeur de la vallée du Ziz. 25€ par personne en demi-pension. C'est mon adresse coup de coeur. (mais comment tu ne connais pas toi ? 😉)
Je relève cette petite phrase 😉 Maison d'Hôtes Chez Moha, à Zouala, dans la superbe Palmeraie du même nom, au coeur de la vallée du Ziz. 25€ par personne en demi-pension. C'est mon adresse coup de coeur. (mais comment tu ne connais pas toi ? 😉)
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
he bien je ne connais pas, parce que quand je passe par là, je suis toujours pressée d'arriver chez mes amis à Merzouga !...et à chaque fois, je me dis "il faudrait que je m'arrête un jour, par ici, quand même..." 🤪
je note ton tuyau ; on ne sait jamais, la prochaine fois... 😉
je note ton tuyau ; on ne sait jamais, la prochaine fois... 😉
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Oui, aucun problème pour aller à BOUTRAHAR , que de la route goudronnée .J'y passé chaque année en LOGAN .
Autre région que j'ai découverte récemment , la route qui va de TINGHIR à TAMTATOUCH , puis ASSOUL , AMELLAGO et GOULMIMA, pour rejoindre à nouveau TINGHIR .C'est une boucle magnifique.Si tu es intéressée , il faut faire une étape chez MOHA à AMELLAGO ! Sa famille tient une ferme-auberge, là maison est accueillante , les possibilités de rando sont nombreuses , on peut aussi y faire de l'escalade.C'est un petit paradis.
Venant de MARRAKECH pour aller à AIT BENHADOU je te conseille de passer par TELOUET .D'abord parce que la route est magnifique, surtout entre TELOUETet AIT BENHADOU et aussi pour voir la mine de sel qui se trouve sur la gauche à là sortie de TELOUET.C'est vraiment intéressant à voir.C'est ce que nous avons fait et nous avons couché à AIT BENHADOU afin de profiter de ce site dans le calme, quand les carsd'excursions étaient tous repartis.
D'accord aussi pour dire que la ferme d'hôtes CHEZ MOHA à découvrirAMELLAGO est une maison à découvrir absolument quand on passe dans la région .
Bonnes vacances au MAROC .
Francine
Merci Francine,
On vas passer la nuit a Skoura donc je ne sais pas si on aura le temps de faire AIT BENHADOU et TELOUET. Si non ça sera pour notre 2me visite.🙂
Merci,
Peggy
Francine, est ce que une voiture de tourisme peut atteindre Ait Benhadou et Telouet? Combien de temps faut-il calculer pour aller de Marrakech a Ait Benhadou et de Telouet a Ait Benhadou?
Merci pour tes infos,
Peggy
Soju,
On a reservé une chambre chez l'hotel Awayou pour profiter de la vallée des Roses. Merci,
Peggy
Bonjours Mohamed,
Merci pour cet avis. On achètera de quoi manger avant de partir la ville de Marrakech comme ça on ne perturbe pas cette observation religieuse.
Peggy
Bonjour
ce serait dommage de ne pas faire la route entre Telouet et Aït Benhaddou , en voiture de tourisme sans problème !
bon voyage ...mais prenez du temps !
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Merci Francia,
Il va falloir qu'on revienne dans cette endroit au mois de Mai...Je garde tous ces info pour la prochaine...
Peggy
Soju,
On a reservé une chambre chez l'hotel Awayou pour profiter de la vallée des Roses. Merci,
Peggy
Bonne adresse, chambres agréables et propriétaire qui connaît bien sa région et qui saura vous conseiller pour randonner , vous avez aussi tout près les gorges d'AGOUTI . Bonne adresse aussi AIT ARBI !Rrandonnée sur plusieurs jours possibles.
Bonne adresse, chambres agréables et propriétaire qui connaît bien sa région et qui saura vous conseiller pour randonner , vous avez aussi tout près les gorges d'AGOUTI . Bonne adresse aussi AIT ARBI !Rrandonnée sur plusieurs jours possibles.
Julien,
Est ce que tu sais si une voiture de tourisme peut aller par la vallée des Dades R704 jusqu'a Imilchil R317 pour aller a Khenifra N8?
Merci pour tes infos,
Peggy
Merci Soju.
Michelle,
Est ce que tu pense que la Vallée des Dades et la Vallée des Roses seront aussi chaudes? En Californie on a des semaines où la temperature varie entre 32 et 45 centigrade. Est ce que c'est plus chauud que ça? On avais pas l'intention de ce promener à Ouarzazate mais a Aït Benhaddou et de passer la nuit a Skoura avant d'aller vers MGoun. Je tiendrais bien compte de ta suggestion de faire les randonnées à l'aube.
Merci,
Peggy
Bonjours Julien,
Est ce que c'est possible d'aller de Boumalne Dades à Midelt en une journée et de faire Midelt a Azrou en une autre journée avec une voiture de Tourisme? Nombres d'heures qu'il faut compter. Merci pour tes conseils!
Margaret
Boulmane/Midelt, je dirais 6h. Midelt n'est pas loin d'Azrou, 2 petites heures.
Sur ce site tu trouveras d'autres distances entre villes marocaines: http://www.travel-in-morocco.com/modules/distance/ Tu comptes en moyenne 60km/h (sauf sur autoroute)
Sur ce site tu trouveras d'autres distances entre villes marocaines: http://www.travel-in-morocco.com/modules/distance/ Tu comptes en moyenne 60km/h (sauf sur autoroute)
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
Merci Kate!!!
Margaret
Moi et mon mari voulions des avis pratiques sur un circuit de 2 semaines qu'on vas faire vers la fin de Juin au Maroc:
4- Marrakech-Skoura avec Visite Aït Benhaddou
5- Randonnee soit vers le MGoum où la vallèe des Dades et dormir?
6- Randonnèe Gorges de Toudra et dormir a Midelt si c'est pratique?
On aura une voiture de tourisme et on voudrais completer soi la vallée des Dades où la La vallée de Todra. On a besoin d'avis sur ces routes. Si ces routes ne sont pas faisable est-ce que la route de Zaida (au Nord de Midelt) N13- R503-N8 est possible avec une voiture de tourisme et combien d'heures pour la traversée? Combien d'heures faut-il compter pour les randonnée dans les gorges pour des gens en forme? Suggestions pour hébergement aux environs des Gorges qui ne dépasse pas 50 Euro/nuit? On a déjà un guide pour Fez, Marrakech et Rabat. On a déjà l'hotel pour Marrakech, Fez et Casa. Un hôte, grace à ce Forum à Skoura. Merci d'avance pour tous vos avis et suggestions. C'est notre premier voyage au Maroc et on compte revenir de nouveau. On c'est qu'on ne peut pas tous faire dans un voyage.
4 -Un bon plan : Marrakech-Telouet - Aït Benhaddou - Ouarzazate ... et c'est tout ! 5 - Skoura (chez qui ?) Kella M'Gouna - la vallée des roses - Tamaloute (nuit "chez Houssine" ... super) 6 - Dadès pour une voiture c'est cul de sac ... il faut redescendre pour prendre les gorges du Togdha (tôt le matin pour la lumière) (dernier village avant es gorges : Dar Ayour, hôtel très sympa) et direction Midelt ... trop pour une journée Cordialement
4 -Un bon plan : Marrakech-Telouet - Aït Benhaddou - Ouarzazate ... et c'est tout ! 5 - Skoura (chez qui ?) Kella M'Gouna - la vallée des roses - Tamaloute (nuit "chez Houssine" ... super) 6 - Dadès pour une voiture c'est cul de sac ... il faut redescendre pour prendre les gorges du Togdha (tôt le matin pour la lumière) (dernier village avant es gorges : Dar Ayour, hôtel très sympa) et direction Midelt ... trop pour une journée Cordialement
Cordialement
Bernard
www.forum4x4maroc.com
Merci pour ton avis😎...on a decidé que pour cette première visite au Maroc on feras les Vallée des Dades et la prochaine visite on feras les gorges de Toudra suivi par le circuit en direction de Ichmil....Donc on va partir tôt le matin de l'Hotel Awayou pour arriver a Midelt...L'hôtellier à Midelt nous a dis que ça prendras 5-6 heures. C;est long mais faisable.
Merci,
Peghissima
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Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Pour confirmer les dires précédents voici une photo de la rivière de sel à la sortie de Télouet , en direction d'AIT BENHADOU ?Cette route est un peu abîmée par endroits mais elle est superbe .
Bonnes réflexions