Colombie-Britannique sans voiture et seule
by Foriri
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonsoir
voilà j'ai un peu cerné les choses avec l'adorable et compétente Christine (Hiacynthe) et je poste mon ébauche pour avis
je devais faire un parcours à 2 en Oregon et plus est jusqu'au Yellowstone, en fait je vais rester en Colombie britannique (mon idée initiale!)
et comme je serai seule je préfère utiliser les transports collectifs
Peut être prendre quelques excursions à la journée...
arrivée le 8 octobre à Vancouver
rester 2 jours pour petite visite et récup de décalage :)
ensuite
10 sept.: Victoria (les jardins Butchard sont ils encore beaux à cette période?) 3-4 jours pour un parcours en bus
15 sept. Port Hardy vers Prince Rupert (1 jour)
2 jours Prince Rupert et train vers Jasper via Prince George
18 sept. Jasper, Lac Louise, 10 jours train avec arrêts dans les rocheuses
3 jours pour revenir à Vancouver (train ou/et bus)
reste du séjour Vancouver
retour 8 oct.
ce ne sont que des grandes lignes, je n'ai encore réservé aucun hôtel
je dois fignoler les rocheuses en fonction des arrêts et de la météo
est ce que le parcours du train est aussi intéressant entre PR et Jasper que dans le sens inverse?
si le temps est trop secoué en sept pour monter par la mer je zappe le ferry Port Hardy, PR
(et je fais juste le rocky mountainer dont Christine parle mais pour lequel il faut casser sa tirelire!!!)
est ce que ça vous parait jouable?
je me dis qu'un mois c'est large et que je ferai aussi en fonction du temps
merci de votre aide
m@
m@rtine
et un défi supplémentaire, est ce que quelqu'un connait un bon tour operator pour les rocheuses (entre Jasper et Banff pas de train ni de bus
et y a t'il en BC l'équivalent de notre blabla car pour faire des covoiturages
merci
et y a t'il en BC l'équivalent de notre blabla car pour faire des covoiturages
merci
m@rtine
bonsoir comme le mentionne parfaitement Etrefal, attention aux jours de départ du bateau
De Port Hardy le départ est très tôt vers les 06h00 du matin.
En principe il y a une navette qui fait le tour des hôtels pour aller au port.Après il faut faire un peu la queue pour embarquer
Le trajet est très long environ 13heures et on peut voir des baleines et des orques sur le trajet.
Voilà le compte rendu que j'ai fait
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4258459;#4258459
merci beaucoup
oui j'ai inclus un jour de plus à Victoria en fonction de ce départ le 16
je ferai vraiment en fonction du temps, j'ai vu des récits de ce parcours fait avec de la pluie et décrit comme long et barbant, je suppose que la météo est l'élément déterminant :)
j'ai lu ton récit et c'est qui me fait m'obstiner à vouloir le faire !!!
par contre j'évalue mal si à cette période il faut tout réserver à l'avance (traversées, hôtels)
comme je suis seule, j'avais envie de le faire vraiment en fonction de la météo et du feeling (s'il pleut je ferai plutôt une route plus basse par Whistler)
je comptais juste réserver mon hôtel à Vancouver
m@rtine
N'oublions pas que des milliers de Britanno-Colombiens sont toujours évacués et doivent habiter quelque part. Dans les régions affectées, les écoles et centres communautaires servent de refuge et les campings qui sont toujours ouverts sont pleins de réfugiés. Certais peuvent se payer un hotel alors on peut facilement imaginer que de nombreux hotels sont complets et le resteront jusqu'à la fin de l'état d'urgence. Si j'allais visiter ce coin de pays je réserverais mes hébergements.
Etrefal
:) tu as raison cette situation est vraiment terrible! i (c'est que l'état d'urgence ici, nous connaissons)
bigre bigre septembre n'est plus ce qu'il était ...
bon si tout est booké je me rabattrai sur le Quebec :) du coté de la Malbaie, du Saguenay, en septembre c'était calmissime (et beau!!!)
m@rtine
bonsoir
voilà j'ai un peu cerné les choses avec l'adorable et compétente Christine (Hiacynthe) et je poste mon ébauche pour avis
je devais faire un parcours à 2 en Oregon et plus est jusqu'au Yellowstone, en fait je vais rester en Colombie britannique (mon idée initiale!)
et comme je serai seule je préfère utiliser les transports collectifs
Peut être prendre quelques excursions à la journée...
arrivée le 8 octobre à Vancouver
rester 2 jours pour petite visite et récup de décalage :)
ensuite
10 sept.: Victoria (les jardins Butchard sont ils encore beaux à cette période?) 3-4 jours pour un parcours en bus
15 sept. Port Hardy vers Prince Rupert (1 jour)
2 jours Prince Rupert et train vers Jasper via Prince George
18 sept. Jasper, Lac Louise, 10 jours train avec arrêts dans les rocheuses
3 jours pour revenir à Vancouver (train ou/et bus)
reste du séjour Vancouver
retour 8 oct.
ce ne sont que des grandes lignes, je n'ai encore réservé aucun hôtel
je dois fignoler les rocheuses en fonction des arrêts et de la météo
est ce que le parcours du train est aussi intéressant entre PR et Jasper que dans le sens inverse?
si le temps est trop secoué en sept pour monter par la mer je zappe le ferry Port Hardy, PR
(et je fais juste le rocky mountainer dont Christine parle mais pour lequel il faut casser sa tirelire!!!)
est ce que ça vous parait jouable?
je me dis qu'un mois c'est large et que je ferai aussi en fonction du temps
merci de votre aide
m@
J'étais au début de ce mois sur l'��le Vancouver, je me permets donc de répondre à ton message !
Je ne sais pas quel parcours tu prévois sur l'île, mais je pense qu'en bus ca risque d'être un peu compliqué tout de même ... Il y a énormément de choses à voir sur cette île qui est magnifique, mais il faut bien souvent la voiture pour se déplacer facilement !
Pour ma part, j'ai choisi d'éviter le Butchard Garden. Je suis sans doute le seul du forum qui te dira cela, mais je trouve que quand même, 42$ pour un jardin dont la durée de visite n'excède à mon humble avis pas plus de deux heures... J'ai du mal. C'est surtout que je venais de payer le même prix environ à Capilano (Vancouver) deux jours avant, et je n'avais pas envie de retomber dans ce genre de dépenses. Je trouve que l'île reste tout simplement magnifique, même sans ce jardin, mais ca reste mon avis et je peux comprendre que tu veuilles le visiter ! Si tu n'es pas véhiculée, tu trouveras aisément des bus qui font la navette toutes les heures depuis Victoria jusqu'au jardin (la fréquence doit être moindre en octobre)
Autrement, j'avais choisi de me baser à Sydney (25km au N de Victoria), petite ville avec un port très très sympathique : je te conseille !
J'étais au début de ce mois sur l'��le Vancouver, je me permets donc de répondre à ton message !
Je ne sais pas quel parcours tu prévois sur l'île, mais je pense qu'en bus ca risque d'être un peu compliqué tout de même ... Il y a énormément de choses à voir sur cette île qui est magnifique, mais il faut bien souvent la voiture pour se déplacer facilement !
Pour ma part, j'ai choisi d'éviter le Butchard Garden. Je suis sans doute le seul du forum qui te dira cela, mais je trouve que quand même, 42$ pour un jardin dont la durée de visite n'excède à mon humble avis pas plus de deux heures... J'ai du mal. C'est surtout que je venais de payer le même prix environ à Capilano (Vancouver) deux jours avant, et je n'avais pas envie de retomber dans ce genre de dépenses. Je trouve que l'île reste tout simplement magnifique, même sans ce jardin, mais ca reste mon avis et je peux comprendre que tu veuilles le visiter ! Si tu n'es pas véhiculée, tu trouveras aisément des bus qui font la navette toutes les heures depuis Victoria jusqu'au jardin (la fréquence doit être moindre en octobre)
Autrement, j'avais choisi de me baser à Sydney (25km au N de Victoria), petite ville avec un port très très sympathique : je te conseille !
En effet l'ile de Vancouver est tout simplement magnifique, on l'avait fait sur 6J et on ne le regrette absolument pas ! Mais sans voiture cela va être clairement galère si tu veux t'aventurer dans les terres vers Pacifim Rim par exemple. Sache que le stop est interdit en Colombie-Britannique ... 😐
Pour les jardins je n'ai pas spécialement accroché et je trouve aussi que cela est cher pour ce que c'est, autant mettre l'argent dans une activité plus originale à mon sens (leçon de surf peut être ???😉)
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bonsoir et merci de ton avis, oh oui tu fais bien de te permettre!
je suis en train de faire le point justement sur le parcours à Victoria et me dis que ce ne sera pas facile (ai lu ailleurs sur le forum que c'était galère certaine que de ne pas avoir de voiture...) je vois que les bus greyhound ne desservent que l'est, le 75 pour les jardins. j'envisageais de louer un vélo mais je comprends que je vais faire les choses à petite vitesse... j'espérais l'équivalent d'un bla bla car là bas
c'est super de me confirmer que c'est un endroit superbe et merci pour Sydney (mais desservi par un bus?)
je vais finir par envisager de louer une voiture, ce que je ne voulais pas faire pendant tout mon parcours (seule, bof) mais je n'ai que 3 jours...
je pensais aussi en alternative au nord faire la sunshine coast, là aussi un peu compliqué mais jouable
merci en tout cas
et tu as raison, pour le jardin ça se réfléchit, je ne sais pas non plus si en septembre ça vaut le coup!
m@rtine
merci et c'est vrai que ces photos donnent envie :)
oui je savais pour le stop interdit, je cherchais plutôt du covoiturage
dans les rocheuses je trouverai des tour opérateurs (one way) pour sauter d'un point à un autre en restant plusieurs jours à chaque endroit
je peux peut être faire la même chose sur Victoria, mais je préfère de loin la liberté :) et voir si c'est jouable sans trop perdre de temps avec les bus
tiens, voilà Pierre n'et pas le seul à dire pas le jardin!! une amie l'a vu au printemps et a bien aimé mais en automne..
et je préfère vraiment faire l'ouest de l'ile (oh oui pacific Rim)
je vais encore bucher mon parcours
m@rtine
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Hi again,
I’m adding more details to my info request. Here are two proposed itineraries. We’re hesitating:
Colombo - Unawatuna 2 days - Sinharaja 1 day - Bandarawela 2 days - Kandy 3 days - Dambulla 2 days - Wilpattu Park 1 day - Kalpitiya 3 days - Negombo 1 day
What should we change or add a day for to include Jaffna?
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Hello everyone,
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
hi everyone! I’d like to visit Montreal and the surrounding areas in August, and I’ve got 3 weeks of vacation. I’m traveling alone and will be visiting my daughter, who recently moved there. She’ll be working and only available in the evenings! So I’m torn between spending a week in Montreal, then taking a flight to Cuba, and returning to France from Havana—or staying in Montreal and exploring the nearby areas alone.
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
From FES, I’d like to spend a few days in:
MEKNES
CHEFCHAOUEN
TETOUAN
and then return to FES.
I’m planning this trip in November.
Thanks for your tips!
I just got back from an unforgettable road trip in Madagascar where I drove down the legendary RN7. It connects Tana (the capital) to Tulear.
Since we were traveling as a group of girls, we decided to go with a guide. I’d never done an “organized” trip before, but I have to say we loved this first tailor-made travel experience.
From the highlands of the Red Island
down to the west coast, by the Mozambique Channel.
Vast landscapes as far as the eye can see
Human encounters
Discovering ancestral artisanal know-how
Sunsets over the ochre mountains
Intense, precious moments with my friends
We loved the mountains, visits to artisans, and the parties too ;-)
We used local guides to show us specific spots (like Isalo National Park, where we were able to bivouac)
Hi there,
My friend and I are traveling together between October and November 2025—no exact dates yet.
We’d love to step away from the typical travel agency packages and are hoping to rent a car locally and stay with locals, living with them rather than in a vacation rental.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all