Conseils sur un voyage en Algérie
by Kso
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous, je fais mes premiers pas sur le site car j'aimerais partir en Algérie (plus particulièrement en Kabylie) entre mi-mars et mi-avril (dates non définies car encore à l'état de projet!). Pour l'instant je pars seule et dans l'inconnu, juste envie de réaliser un petit reve! Donc tous vos conseils sur le voyage, l'hebergement, les sites à visiter... bref toutes informations seront les biens venues sachant que contrairement à bq de tchater je ne suis pas une grande baroudeuse! A bientot...
Je constate que vs n'avez aucune réponse, je vs conseille
1) d'affiner votre demande
2)de consulter les messages V.F en allant dans "rechercher des messages" et là de taper Algérie .
Bonne recherche ! 😉
Michelle
Bonjours
l'Algérie c'est beau durant le printemps. A l'inverse du sud ( désert) le nord dont la Kabylie est doté de toutes les condition d'un bon séjours. Bien sure moi je conseille toujours de recourir à un voyagitse pour éviter les escorqueries, les dédales des rabbateurs et, enfin, les mauvaises surprises. Comme cela en cas de problème on peut toujours situer les responabilités.
Merci pour votre réponse, en effet le plus simple est toujours de passer par un voyagiste mais il existe très peu les seuls voyages qui sont proposés le sont dans le sud et à des sommes assez exorbitantes! Est-ce que par hasard vous seriez voyagite? Moi, j'aimerai partir pour une seamine à dix jours...à bientot
J'ai voyagé en Décembre dernier à travers toute l'Algérie avec un grand bonheur !
J'ai passé une semaine avec un "voyagiste" dans le Tassili du Hoggar, loin de tout, et c'était nickel
Cependant j'ai aussi pu découvrir le reste de l'Aldjerie SANS voyagiste, un gré de mas humeurs ou de l'orientation du vent... Pas une seule fois il n'y a eu un soupçon de mauvais plan genre attrape touriste, c'est ce qui fait le charme de ce pays, entre autres. Profite de ce pays où les touristes ne sont pas pris pour des cons pour te laisser aller libre comme l'air !
Bon voyage !
Un grand merci pour votre réponse, je viens de consulter le site dont vous me parliez et en effet il propose une decouverte du pays qui correspond beaucoup plus proche de ce que je voulais (le nord Algérien)...je vais essayer de rentrer en contact avec eux (donc vous?) pour savoir si on peut organiser quelque chose...En tout cas je serais heureuse de garder contact avec vous pour tous vos conseils sur ce voyage....à bientot
Bonjour!
je profite de loccasion pour poser mes propres questions sur lalgérie! Nous sommes deux filles qui passeront le mois de juillet en algérie en backpacking. Nous arriverons du maroc en avion(ou ns aurons passé le mois précédent). Donc: ou nous conseillez vs d'atterrir et surtout qu'elles villes, villages, ou attraction(!) devrait être sur notre parcours. Nous avons un petit budget et sommes consciente que certaine régions ne sont pas les meilleures pour deux femmes. mais lesquelles exactement? Nous préférons le voyage au tourisme, donc préférons rencontrer des algériens que de faire des tours organisés.
merci d'avance!
merci d'avance!
Il existe un pays qu'on dit impossible comme le paradis de la bible, Il existe un pays aussi beau que la folie...
- J. Leloup
Bonjour les filles !
Je comprend parfaitement vos interrogations en vue de votre prochaine visite en Algérie ! Par contre, je ne comprend pas qu'on parle ici que du Nord (les réponses qui sont données, très orientées vers le Nord... comme quoi dans le nord tout va bien et dans le sud, c'est autre chose...).
Je tiens à vous rassurer, si cela vous tente, que dans le sud, vous serez très bien reçu, surtout chez les touaregs, où les femmes sont plus que respectées ! Certaines agences locales peuvent vous proposer des circuits adaptés à votre budget et selon vos intérêts... En été, la destination idéale du sud, c'est le Hoggar. Malgré le désert, vous avez des sites où durant l'été il y a de températures tempérées (altitude). Aussi, on peut vous recevoir et faire visiter la région, en étant invitées par une famille touareg (en toute tranquillité).
Je reste à votre écoute !
Cordialement,
Lili
Je comprend parfaitement vos interrogations en vue de votre prochaine visite en Algérie ! Par contre, je ne comprend pas qu'on parle ici que du Nord (les réponses qui sont données, très orientées vers le Nord... comme quoi dans le nord tout va bien et dans le sud, c'est autre chose...).
Je tiens à vous rassurer, si cela vous tente, que dans le sud, vous serez très bien reçu, surtout chez les touaregs, où les femmes sont plus que respectées ! Certaines agences locales peuvent vous proposer des circuits adaptés à votre budget et selon vos intérêts... En été, la destination idéale du sud, c'est le Hoggar. Malgré le désert, vous avez des sites où durant l'été il y a de températures tempérées (altitude). Aussi, on peut vous recevoir et faire visiter la région, en étant invitées par une famille touareg (en toute tranquillité).
Je reste à votre écoute !
Cordialement,
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Non, je suis désolée mais ce ne sont pas vos messages qui m'ont interpellé, mais les réponses que vous avez reçu où on insiste, je trouve, "lourdement" sur la différence nord/sud !
Dans tous les cas, je vos souhaite un excellent séjour, qui risque d'être un peu "trop chaud" selon les endroits, sauf en montagne !
A bientôt,
Lili
Dans tous les cas, je vos souhaite un excellent séjour, qui risque d'être un peu "trop chaud" selon les endroits, sauf en montagne !
A bientôt,
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
bonjour,
je pars ce soir meme pour 8 jours, dans le Tassili du Hoggar, via Tamanrasset.
Je passe par un Tour operator, bien sur.. Je connais aussi le nord pour y avoir passé 18 mois en 75/76 Ce n'est pas ininterressant, mais il faut bien reconnaitre, que peu de TO propose de visiter cette partie. C'est sans doute plus difficile à voyager seule pour une fille, .. Si tu veux découvrir la partie la plus magique de l'Algérie, alors privilegie le Sahara, et particulierement, autour de Tam ou de Djanet. Là, tu peux voyager en toute sécurité avec des guides touaregs. Jippe
Je passe par un Tour operator, bien sur.. Je connais aussi le nord pour y avoir passé 18 mois en 75/76 Ce n'est pas ininterressant, mais il faut bien reconnaitre, que peu de TO propose de visiter cette partie. C'est sans doute plus difficile à voyager seule pour une fille, .. Si tu veux découvrir la partie la plus magique de l'Algérie, alors privilegie le Sahara, et particulierement, autour de Tam ou de Djanet. Là, tu peux voyager en toute sécurité avec des guides touaregs. Jippe
Salut Kso, Salut Olivier
finalement j'ai decidé de faire mon propre pelerinage en Algerie moi aussi.
je pars de Montreal le 20 mars. transite a Paris un jour et reprends le 22. J'arrive donc a Alger le 22.
Je descends en Kabylie le 23 probablement.
Kso, Olivier et Loopkin du site ont un peu bourlingué en Algerie et tu peux te fier a ce qu'ils en disent. pas le paradis, pas l'enfer.
Pas necessairement facile pour une fille seule mais je pense que ca devrait pourvoir se faire sans trop de heurts. En plus, d'apres ce qu'on m'en a dit, le printemps s'annonce plutot beau cette annee vu les pluies et la neige qui se sont deversés sur le nord.
Kso si t'as besoin de plus d'info, fais signe.
Olivier je te fais signe a mon retour.
atchao ;)
Samir
atchao ;)
Samir
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"..Il faut toujours prendre ses distances par rapport aux biens de ce monde. personnellement, j'en jouis, certes, mais je m'en fous..." San Antonio (Je le jure)
J'aimerais bien avoir quelques informations pratiques sur ton voyage, je les lances en vrac:
tu pars avec un voyagiste ou en vol sec? ou vas-tu loger là bas? Quel est ton circuit en Kabylie car c exactement la région que je veux visiter? En combien de temps as-tu obtenu ton visa?... voilà, je pense que j'aurais d'autres questions plus tard....! Merci beaucoup et à bientot Samir et à tous...
Salut Sonia
j'ai un peu souri a chacune de tes questions (no offense ;O) ).
Bon je ne pars pas avec un voyagiste, je pars aussi solo que le Han du meme nom (si t'as pas tripe sur la frimousse d'harrison ford dans les premiers star wars, tu peux sauter cette replique ;) ). Simple je suis natif de ce pays, d'ou pelerinage...la seconde question a plus ou moins ete schmilblickee par la premiere reponse. autrement dit, a Alger je loge chez nous, en Kabylie aussi. Mon visa donc, bon je n'ai pas eu a l'obtenir puisque canadien, peut-etre, mais algerien je n'y peux rien d'abord(personne n'est parfait effectivement ;) ), par contre je peux faire quelque chose si jamais ca coince pour toi (l'ai deja fait pour un certain membre du forum..motus et bouche cousue, je ne veux pas devenir une agence d'allocation d'invitations ;O) ).
En gros mon pelerinage tient en ceci, Prendre video d'au maximum tous les lieux qui ont fait ma jeunesse, eventuellement l'ecole primaire, le college le lycee, grand mere, vieux oncles si je peux vu que pour ceux qui ont vu Jean de Florette, j'aimerais vous dire que l'histoire n'est pas toute entierement fictive... le village perche au haut des montagnes de Kabylie, voir Alger mon premier amour de ville..et, soit dit en passant, plus grande ville kabyle de par la population en depit de ce que l'on peut penser, faire un tour a Bougie si possible, A Tigzirt et Boumerdes aussi, a Tikjda montagnes surplombant Bouira petite ville des vallees du centre. Donc bon, pour resumer, si jamais t'as besoin d'infos localement, fais signe. Si ce n'est pas moi ca va etre ma petite soeur ou mon petit frere ;)
au train ou ca va je commence a penser ouvrir un bed and breakfast la-bas ;)
a bientot et bons preparatifs moi j'en suis a J - 8 encore une fois..n'hesite pas si t'as besoin d'aide ou d'infos
Samir
a bientot et bons preparatifs moi j'en suis a J - 8 encore une fois..n'hesite pas si t'as besoin d'aide ou d'infos
Samir
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"..Il faut toujours prendre ses distances par rapport aux biens de ce monde. personnellement, j'en jouis, certes, mais je m'en fous..." San Antonio (Je le jure)
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In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




