Consommation excessive de mon camping-car par froid polaire
by Debertereche
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Actuellement je roule en montagne avec mon camping car sur fiat ducato 2.8 idtd de 2001 avec capucine Hymer et je viens de constater une augmentation très importante de ma consommation sans rien changer à mon style de conduite plutot souple.
Je suis accompagnateur en montagne et me déplace régulièrement sur des trajets assez cours de l'ordre de 20 à 30 Km max.
Il fait en revanche très froid actuellement et je démarre souvent mon véhicule par une T° de -10° voir -15° mais je ne monte jamais dans les tours et reste autour de 2000 T/mn.
Je consomme à la belle saison autour de 10/11 L voir moins de 10L sur long trajet avec une conduite très douce et là je viens de consommer 13,5 L.
Est ce d'après vous lié au froid polaire actuel et ses températures sibérienne ?
Est ce Le fait de ne rouler que sur de courtes distances 20 à 30 Km max ?
Est ce la qualité du gasoil que j'achète en supermarché qui serait douteuse et pourtant garantie jusqu'à - 15° ?
Est ce un filtre qui serait déffectueux ?
Est ce un peu de tout cela à la fois ?
Merci d'avance pour vos infos.
Bonjour
Au niveau mécanique, le seul problème peut provenir des injecteurs, à tarer ou remplacer selon le cas;mais vous devriez constater que les fumées d'échappement sont bleues ou grises (pas noires qui serait un problème d'huile). Peu de risques pour le GO provenant du supermarché, sauf que vous n'ayez pas été trompé sur la quantité!!!L'additif pour antigel est le même partout et n'influence pas la conso.Aucune implication du filtre à gasoil (sauf bouché et moteur en panne!!) Renseignez-vous auprès du concessionnaire Fiat si votre porteur dispose d'un dispositif de suralimentation pour démarrage à froid, qui pourrait entrainer une surconso si pas de retour à la position normale à cause du froid (genre starter pour moteur essence)
Bon courage
M.T.
Au niveau mécanique, le seul problème peut provenir des injecteurs, à tarer ou remplacer selon le cas;mais vous devriez constater que les fumées d'échappement sont bleues ou grises (pas noires qui serait un problème d'huile). Peu de risques pour le GO provenant du supermarché, sauf que vous n'ayez pas été trompé sur la quantité!!!L'additif pour antigel est le même partout et n'influence pas la conso.Aucune implication du filtre à gasoil (sauf bouché et moteur en panne!!) Renseignez-vous auprès du concessionnaire Fiat si votre porteur dispose d'un dispositif de suralimentation pour démarrage à froid, qui pourrait entrainer une surconso si pas de retour à la position normale à cause du froid (genre starter pour moteur essence)
Bon courage
M.T.
Ni dieu ni maître...
* ***Est ce Le fait de ne rouler que sur de courtes distances 20 à 30 Km max ? ***
perso , c'est la réponse que je cocherais , un moteur n'atteint sa consommation optimale, qu'à sa température optimale, que tu ne dois atteindre qu'au bout de 20 mn voire plus dans tes conditions actuelles.
perso , c'est la réponse que je cocherais , un moteur n'atteint sa consommation optimale, qu'à sa température optimale, que tu ne dois atteindre qu'au bout de 20 mn voire plus dans tes conditions actuelles.
C'est normal de consommer plus l'hiver que l'été, il y a déjà le starter automatique qui vas se fermer progressivement jusqu'au moment ou le moteur est à 80/85°, donc plusieurs km, et après il faut plus de carburant du fait que l'air est froid et que le moteur doit tenir la température, de plus le chauffage fonctionne, les feux, etc.. à chaque fois qu'on utilise quelque chose, le moteur doit assurer. C'est le même principe que le moteur électrogène, c'est plus perceptible lorsqu'on utilise un appareil, le moteur accélère. L'été l'air est chaud, et plus il fait chaud mieux votre moteur sera silencieux, et moins il s'encrasera. Quand j'était en activité, mon garagiste partait avec mon camion, il montait les rapports très haut pour décalaminer, et ainsi je pouvais passer le contrôle polution, il n'y avait plus de problème. Il y a une trentaine d'année on mettait une moustache en face des grilles de façade des moteurs, souvenez vous.
Jo
Merci beaucoup pour ces infos pertinentes et pleines de bon sens
Je n'avais en effet pas pensé au starter automatique qui doit certainement rester enclenché durant les 3/4 de mes courts trajets...
Je vais peut être placer une protection devant le radiateur...comme....avant!!!!
Je ne pense pas qu'il serais sage de remettre une protection, une fois je l'ai fait et j'ai eu des ennuies de chauffe du moteur, la voiture c'est mis à brouter, j'ai enlevé la protection et sa a été fini. La technologie n'est plus du tout la même que dans les années 60/70, tu risque de faire pire que mieux. Aujourd'hui, on ne préchauffe plus le diésel, on ne fait plus chauffer les moteurs avant de partir. Je ne suis pas expert en la matière, mais c'est le vécu qui me fait parler.
J'espère que ce que je pense n'est pas des bétises, je ne souhaiterais pas qu'il arrive quoi que se soit, à qui que se soit.
bien à toi
Jo
C'est tout à fait normal
Ici au Canada, tout le monde sait qu'un véhicule consomme plus l'hiver que l'été.
Je pense que les canadiens sont bien placés pour les températures sibérienne...
Bien qu'actuellement ils semblent avoir trop chaud...pour leur organisation des...JO
Encore merci à vous tous...
Bonjour,
Il serait peut-être sage de faire poser un chauffe-moteur qui maintiendrait le moteur à une certaine température avant le démarrage...
Certes la technologie a changé, il y a des réchauffeurs d'air d'admission sur tous les véhicules mais par des t° de -5/-15° je conseille à tous le monde de laisser chauffer le moteur avant de rouler . Dans 100 000 km vous verrez la différence ! (et peut etre avant !)
Ensuite il faut comparer les circuits: à vitesse stabilisée sur autoroute 10 l c est normal,
pour des petits parcours en montagne 12.5l est plus credible, alors l'hivers à froid 13.5 c est tt à fait normal.
Point n'est besoin d'espérer pour entreprendre ni de réussir pour persévérer
Je suis aussi tout à fait d'accord de laisser chauffer le moteur avant de partir, j'ai l'impression que les hivers deviennent plus froid. Voila 2 ans que la température approche ou descent en dessous de moins 10° chez nous, vas falloir se réhabituer comme avant, chauffer le moteur, démarer doucement pour chauffe les pneus. Peut-être que nos cousins canadiens vont connaître la douceur que nous avons eu pendant 20 ans et nous, plusieurs mètres de neige avec des moins 30°😠 Je vous préviens, moi je me couche en novembre et me lèverais en mars😏
Jo
Bonjour.
Que veux-tu dire par-là ?
Peu de risques pour le GO provenant du supermarché, sauf que vous n'ayez pas été trompé sur la quantité!!!
Que veux-tu dire par-là ?
Peu de risques pour le GO provenant du supermarché, sauf que vous n'ayez pas été trompé sur la quantité!!!
Mieux vaut être con et fermer sa gueule que de l'ouvrir pour le prouver.
Laurent
Laurent
Pour faire chauffer un moteur, il est inutile de le laisser 10 min au ralenti. Non seulement le moteur sera finalement à peine tiède (surtout pour un diesel), mais tout le reste des éléments (boite de vitesse, ponts, circuits hydrauliques de direction...) seront froids.
A mon avis, par très grand froid inférieur à -10°C, laisser le moteur se stabiliser en 1 min histoire d'être sûr que l'huile est bien montée partout, et ensuite partir tranquillement surtout sans forcer. Au fur et à mesure de la chauffe, pousser le moteur un peu plus.
Pour info, mon véhicule approche 500.000 kms en essence, et je n'ai jamais laissé chauffer mon moteur au ralenti.
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For a long time, we’d admired photos of the Makaryevo Women’s Monastery on Russian websites. They’re always taken from cruise hydrofoils that, in season, depart from Nizhny Novgorod.
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Thanks!
hi,
I’m planning a trip to Albania in a camper van, most likely between May, June, and early July (2027), for about 60 days. On the way down, I’ll go as far as Bari (or Brindisi) and cross by ferry, and on the way back, I’ll go through the former Yugoslavia (or maybe take the return ferry?).
Has anyone been there recently? What are the roads like, the must-see spots, and any general tips you can share?
There’ll probably be two of us traveling together.
Thanks
Hi there,
During our last trip to Greece in 2021, we used Anek Lines' open deck offer, which allowed us to spend the night in our van on an open deck by the sea with access to the ferry's bars, restaurant, and showers (on the Ancona-Igoumenitsa route).
From my initial research, it seems this service no longer exists—can anyone confirm this?
Any alternatives?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to drive my camper van to southern Spain in autumn 2026. Ideally, I’d like to find a ferry leaving from France (Marseille or Toulon, doesn’t matter) that drops me off as far south in Spain as possible. I’ve done some research but haven’t had any luck.
Thanks for your tips!
Vanouk
We’d like to spend 15 days in August visiting Normandy by camper van, starting from Lyon.
Has anyone got an itinerary to suggest for exploring Normandy?
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
Hi there,
I have a bit of a crazy dream... I'd love to drop everything and hit the road with my wife and kids in a camper van.
I want to visit villages to learn, immerse ourselves in other cultures, and see different perspectives on the world. To teach my kids different values.
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
Hi, I’m planning to pick up a camper van in Dubai and drive it back to France... is this even possible? What’s the best route? What are the main challenges? Are there secure parking areas along the way? Is diesel fuel available for the whole trip? ... So many questions... Thanks for your help! See you soon!
I'm planning to drive to the UAE by road, going through Iraq. Has anyone done this and can give me some info? Specifically about the border crossings Turkey/Iraq and Iraq/Kuwait.
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a trip to New Zealand in a campervan. Is it a good idea to mix hotels and a car on the North Island and a campervan on the South Island? Or should I do the whole trip in a campervan—though visiting big cities seems trickier that way.
Other questions: which companies do you recommend, and what are the least tiring or most sensible routes? 😄
Thanks for sharing your experiences and ideas!
Hi there,
We’re planning to tour Scandinavia by camper van—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway (in that order)—for 5 weeks from late May to late June 2026.
I’ve done it before, but that was way back in 1980 😎 and by hitchhiking!
We’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trip about the best routes, great tips, must-know advice, and what to do or avoid (ferries, campsites, etc.).
Thanks in advance!
hi there,
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip with my camper van in autumn 2026 to head to southern Italy from Genoa by ferry.
Ideally, I’d like to leave from Genoa for southern Italy (like Messina) or another city in the boot.
I’ve done some research online but haven’t had any luck.
Can you help or give me some advice?
Thanks in advance!
Vanouk
Hi there, we’ll be in Portugal from March 9 to April 14, 2026. We’ve booked our first five days in Lisbon for sightseeing. After that, we’d like to rent a campervan (RV), but we’re having trouble finding a good site for the rental. The rental would be for about three weeks. Do you have any suggestions for us? We think it’s best to book the campervan before we arrive. And since we’re not mechanics, we need a vehicle in good condition...
Thanks so much for your suggestions. We’re open to everything—even route ideas and places to visit! Pierrette
Thanks so much for your suggestions. We’re open to everything—even route ideas and places to visit! Pierrette