Je commence un itinéraire de 3 semaines dans l'ouest américain et je souhaitais suivre cet itinéraire trouvé sur le forum et posté par Bastinj :
J1 : Vol pour Phoenix
J2 : Phoenix - Grand Canyon South Rim - nuit au Maswick Lodge par ex
J3 : Grand Canyon
J4 : Grand Canyon - Monument Valley - nuit à Mexican Hat
J5 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods - Page
J6 : Page - Bryce Canyon
J7 : Bryce
J8 : Bryce Canyon - Zion
J9 : Zion - Las Vegas
J10 : Las Vegas
J11 : Las Vegas - Death Valley
J12: Death Valley - Lee Vining
J13 : Yosemite
J14 : SFO
J15 : SFO
J16 : SFO
J17 : SFO - Monterey - Cambria
J18 : Cambria - LA
J19 : LA
J20 : retour
Mais j'ai par la suite trouvé un post qui contredit J12 puisqu'apparemment le trajet entre Death Valley et Yosémite prendrait 12 heures avec toutes les choses à voir....
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Hello,
Est ce que Yosemite - Death Valley en 1 journée (le 19 Mai) en faisant surtout de la route et s'arrêtant pour des petites pauses photos et dégourdir les jambes à lee Vining, Mono Lake, Bodie, Bishop, Lone Pine et arriver à Death Valley pour dormir est possible ? Comme la recherche risque de te prendre pas mal de temps (pas facile de cibler les mots exacts pour trouver une réponse noyée ds des dizaines de posts parlant du Yosemite et de la Death Valley), voici les données:
- Il faut 2H de route (par la Tioga Rd) entre la Vallée duYosemite et Lee Vining.
- A cela vous ajoutez qq arrêts obligatoires sur cette route: 1H pour Olmsted Point et Tenaya Lake ( + ? H éventuellement pour randonner ds les Tuolumne Meadows)
- Il faut compter 1H30 de route A-R pour faire Lee Vining-Bodie
- 1h30 minimum de visite à Bodie
- 1h de visite à Mono Lake
- Et encore +/-5H de route jusque Furnace Creek
Total = 12 heures minimum... Donc, oui, c'est possible... mais très longue journée fatigante avec un départ très matinal
Pourriez vous SVP m'éclairer car en plus pour le moment, comme je commence, les lieux et les distances sont assez abstraites pour moi^^
Ds l'exemple-type, il est prévu de faire le trajet Death Valley-Yosemite en 2 jours:
J12: Death Valley - Lee Vining
J13 : Lee Vining- Yosemite
Ds le post dont tu parles, il s'agit de qq un qui voulait faire Yosemite - Death Valley en 1 journée... d'où tte la différence.
Maintenant si tu comptes randonner ds Yosemite, je te conseille de rajouter 1 jour sur place (et donc une 2ème nuit)
Regarde la carte du parc sur nps.gov, et regarde l'emplacement des lieux cités sur google maps, pour visualiser le trajet
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse !
Je pensais que c'était le trajet en un jour car sur google maps je vois Death Valley - Lee vining 3h47 et Lee vining - Yosémite 18 min.
Mais maintenant je pense comprendre que c'est pour pouvoir entrer tôt dans le parc (?)
Donc avec cet itinéraire ça fait 1 journée dans Yosémite, 1 nuit, 1 autre journée dans Yosémite et on part en fin de journée à SFO. Du coup avec ces "presque" 2 journées, pensez-vous que ce planning dans le parc soit tenable :
J1:
Vallée de Yosemite: Yosemite Falls
Tioga Road: Olmsted Point, Tenaya Lake
Bodie Ghost Town
Nuit à Lee Vining ? ou directement dans le parc?
J2:
Entrée à Yosemite par Oakhurst - Wawona
Visite de Mariposa Grove
Glacier Point
Arrêt à Bridalveil Falls
en J1: Death Valley - Lee Vining - Bodie - sunset à Mono Lake - Nuit à Lee Vining
en J2: Lee Vining - entrée Est du Yosemite - Tioga Pass ( Olmsted Point, Tenaya Lake) - arrivée ds la Yosemite Vallée - Nuit ds la Yosemite Vallée
(ou pour avoir un meilleur rapport qualité/prix, je vs conseille de dormir en dehors du parc: soit à côté de l'entrée ouest (à El Portal), soit à côté de l'entrée sud (à Oakhurst))
Comme le parc Yosemite est immense (il y a bcp de km entre les entrées Est, Ouest et Sud), l'emplacement du lieu pour dormir dépend de ce que vs projetterez de faire comme visites.
C'est aussi la raison pour laquelle je vs disais que si vs comptiez visiter le parc en randonnant, il est fortement conseillé de rajouter 1 jour et de faire 1 nuit à El Portal et une 2ème nuit à Oakhurst.
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Je rajouterais que cet itinéraire est possible lorsque la Tioga Road est ouverte c'est à dire en général de juin à octobre. Attention, il peut arriver, selon les chutes de neige de l'hiver et du printemps, que cette route ouvre tard au mois de juin, par exemple elle a ouvert le 18 juin en 2011.
Parfois elle ouvre plus tôt, début mai cette année.
Je te conseille aussi de télécharger les cartes des parcs sur le site NPS ou sur mon blog (lien en bas de post)
Pour les itinéraires, utilise Google Maps.
donc pas grand chose à y redire 😉 (salut Jacqueline).
J5 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods
Juste une remarque ; inverser l'ordre. En effet, le matin (et le soir), la lumière n'arrive pas au fond des Goosenecks et, d'autre part, dans VoG, tu auras le soleil dans les yeux.
Donc, commencer par l'entrée est de VoG (soleil dans le dos) ; à la fin, prendre à droite pour grimper la Moky Dugway, redescendre (ou pousser jusqu'à Muley Point) et seulement passer à Goosenecks SP. Possibilité de pique-nique sur place (une table abritée).
"Je te conseille aussi de télécharger les cartes des parcs sur le site NPS
Pour les itinéraires, utilise Google Maps."
Déjà dit... mais tu fais bien de le répéter😉, car manifestement Audrey n'a tjs pas pris la peine de regarder une carte🤪
Par contre je rectifie, j'ai regardé une carte (celle de Google Maps ) qui m'indique : Death Valley - Lee vining 3h47 et Lee vining - Yosémite 18 min. Voilà pourquoi je pensais que le J12 de l'itinéraire (Death Valley - Lee Vining) correspondait à faire le trajet Death Valley - Yosémite en un jour, en passant la nuit à Lee Vining. Le détail (
Bodie - sunset à Mono Lake) n'était pas mentionné. Et donc comme j'avais lu que ce trajet en un jour n'était pas possible, je souhaitais avoir un peu plus de détails...
Quant à la route je pense que ce sera bon car nous n'avons pas d'autre choix que de partir en juillet ou août...
Bon allez je vais continuer et creuser davantage ! Mais merci car j'ai une vision d'ensemble un peu plus claire à présent ! (pourtant j'ai acheté le guide vert mais je trouve qu'au début ce n'est pas facile de bien se rendre compte de tout !)
Bonjour
Les 18 minutes indiquées par Gogole pour Lee vining Yosemite correspondent à la durée pour arriver à l'entrée est du parc...
Apres, il y a toute la TIOGA a faire pour arriver à YOSEMITE VILLAGE, puis à votre hotel si vs logez hors du parc.
Comme déjà dit, mefiez vs des durées indiquées par Gogole, car les routes du parc sont tres sinueuses, encombrées de touristes, et de RV...
"j'ai regardé une carte (celle de Google Maps ) qui m'indique : Death Valley - Lee vining 3h47 et Lee vining - Yosémite 18 min."
Je suis très étonnée que google maps n'indique que 3h47 pour faire Furnace Creek - Lee Vining😮
J'ai vérifié et pourtant c'est bien ce qui est mentionné 😮
Or 227 miles = 365 km.
Pour faire ces 365 km en 3h45, cela signifierait que la moyenne est pratiquement de 100 km/heure🏴☠️
De Furnace Creek à Lone Pine, vs ne ferez déjà que +/- 60 km/h
Pour faire ces 365 km, misez plutôt sur au minimum 4h30, voire 5h00 (sans compter les arrêts... et il, y en a à faire!)(c'est d'ailleurs ce que mentionnait google maps qd moi, j'ai visité cette région, et que , je sache, la route n'a pas été modifiée depuis mon passage)
Quant au 18 minutes mentionnées entre Lee Vining et Yosemite, il s'agit du trajet entre Lee Vining et l'entrée Est du parc... mais à l'entrée Est, vous êtes loin d'être arrivée ds la Yosemite Valley puisqu'il vous faudra traverser tte la Tioga Pass Rd pour y arriver.
Pour avoir une notion exacte des distances/temps de route, il faut tjs bien vérifier où sont placés les curseurs de google maps... (et , au besoin, les déplacer manuellement en cliquant dessus jusqu'à aller les positionner aux endroits voulus: voir http://goo.gl/maps/GVW5G où vs verrez que le trajet Lee Vining-Yosemite Valley demande 2h00 sans compter les arrêts évidemment😛)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Je commence un itinéraire de 3 semaines dans l'ouest américain et je souhaitais suivre cet itinéraire trouvé sur le forum et posté par Bastinj :
J1 : Vol pour Phoenix
Bonsoir Audrey
Je ne sais pas a quelle heure vous arriverez a Phoenix. Il va vous faloir passer l'immigration, la douane, recuperer une voiture, traverser Phoenix, remonter le Freeway I-17 North et passer par Flagstaff.
J2 : Phoenix - Grand Canyon South Rim - nuit au Maswick Lodge par ex
J3 : Grand Canyon
J4 : Grand Canyon - Monument Valley - nuit à Mexican Hat
GC Monument Valley, 4 heures de route sans trainer. Si vous partez tot le matin vous y serez en fin de matine.
Attention a la visite de MV, les Cos qui loent des voitures n'autorisent pas la conduit Off-road. Sur pistes.
J5 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods - Page
J6 : Page - Bryce Canyon
A Bryce Canyon, descendez depuis Sunrise Point ou Sunset Point, et faites le Peek-A-Boo Trail, environ 4 a 5 heures de marche sans courir.
J7 : Bryce
J8 : Bryce Canyon - Zion
J9 : Zion - Las Vegas
J10 : Las Vegas
J11 : Las Vegas - Death Valley
J12: Death Valley - Lee Vining
J13 : Yosemite
J14 : SFO
Quand serez-vous a SF, heureux de vous aider a naviguer si nous y sommes.
Amities
Alex
J15 : SFO
J16 : SFO
J17 : SFO - Monterey - Cambria
J18 : Cambria - LA
J19 : LA
J20 : retour
Mais j'ai par la suite trouvé un post qui contredit J12 puisqu'apparemment le trajet entre Death Valley et Yosémite prendrait 12 heures avec toutes les choses à voir....
ñ
Hello,
Est ce que Yosemite - Death Valley en 1 journée (le 19 Mai) en faisant surtout de la route et s'arrêtant pour des petites pauses photos et dégourdir les jambes à lee Vining, Mono Lake, Bodie, Bishop, Lone Pine et arriver à Death Valley pour dormir est possible ? Comme la recherche risque de te prendre pas mal de temps (pas facile de cibler les mots exacts pour trouver une réponse noyée ds des dizaines de posts parlant du Yosemite et de la Death Valley), voici les données:
- Il faut 2H de route (par la Tioga Rd) entre la Vallée duYosemite et Lee Vining.
- A cela vous ajoutez qq arrêts obligatoires sur cette route: 1H pour Olmsted Point et Tenaya Lake ( + ? H éventuellement pour randonner ds les Tuolumne Meadows)
- Il faut compter 1H30 de route A-R pour faire Lee Vining-Bodie
- 1h30 minimum de visite à Bodie
- 1h de visite à Mono Lake
- Et encore +/-5H de route jusque Furnace Creek
Total = 12 heures minimum... Donc, oui, c'est possible... mais très longue journée fatigante avec un départ très matinal
Pourriez vous SVP m'éclairer car en plus pour le moment, comme je commence, les lieux et les distances sont assez abstraites pour moi^^
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
J'ai bien pris note de toutes vos réponses. Merci beaucoup à tous.
Durandale2, pour l'instant pas de date bien définie mais ce serait pour juillet 2015 (je ne peux malheureusement pas partir hors vacances scolaires françaises...) Je reviendrai sur le forum quand j'aurai un peu plus avancé sur l'itinéraire mais ça commence à se préciser...! En tout cas merci pour ta proposition de se retrouver à SF !
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high.
Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities?
- Los Angeles
- Las Vegas
- San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
