Désert des Bardenas fin octobre (Espagne)
by Chboul
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous souhaitons aller dans le désert des Bardenas fin octobre pour une semaine.
Nous pensons prendre un vol pour Bilbao, louer une voiture et aller dans les Bardenas.
Pour l'instant mes connaissances sont assez minces, je sais que l'on ne peut pas y dormir, qu'il faut se loger à l'extérieur et y aller randonner à la journée.
Il semblerait qu'octobre soit une bonne période car le climat y est agréable et la totalité du désert est ouverte car la nidification des oiseaux est terminée.
J'aimerais savoir comment se procurer des itinéraires de randonnée ?
Où est il le plus pratique de dormir ?
Qu'y a t il d'intéressant à voir dans des alentours ?...
Cordialement.
Christine
Bonsoir
Il existe un topoguide des randos a pied ou a vtt avec toute la réglementation et la liste des hébergements tu peux le commander a la librairie du voyage (randonnées dans le désert des bardena réales rando éditions de béatrice Chupin et hervé François );après tu peux aller en Aragon super paysage
Charly😉
Il existe un topoguide des randos a pied ou a vtt avec toute la réglementation et la liste des hébergements tu peux le commander a la librairie du voyage (randonnées dans le désert des bardena réales rando éditions de béatrice Chupin et hervé François );après tu peux aller en Aragon super paysage
Charly😉
Bonjour,
Connaissez-vous ce site ? Il est intéressant de le parcourir.
http://www.bardenas-reales.net/pageaccueil.htm
Si vous faites une recherche avec ces mots clefs "bardenas reales" sur le forum, vous découvrirez de beaux carnets de voyages.
J'ai le même guide cité dans le précédent message, il m'a bien servi.
Hola 😉
Vous avez un superbe carnet de voyage en cliquant sur le lien suivant http://voyageforum.com/discussion/bilbao-bardenas-reales-octobre-2014-d6755492/
Vous avez un superbe carnet de voyage en cliquant sur le lien suivant http://voyageforum.com/discussion/bilbao-bardenas-reales-octobre-2014-d6755492/
fabrice
Bonjour,
Où me conseilles tu de loger pour ne pas faire trop de kilomètres pour nous rendre au départ des randonnées le matin ?
Combien y a t il de points d'entrées dans le désert ? J'imagine qu'il faut loger le plus près possible de ces points. J'ai du mal à m'imaginer comment procéder pour aller randonner.
Y a t il des routes à l'intérieur où l'on peut aller avec une voiture normale ?
Où peut on trouver les cartes de randonnées ?
Quels sont les endroits incontournables à ne pas louper dans le désert ? Sont ils éloignés les uns des autres ?
Nous partons 9 jours dont 2 jours à Bilbao et peut être un passage à San Sebastian.
Comment me conseilles tu d'organiser notre itinéraire ?
Je te remercie d'avance.
Bien cordialement.
Christine
Bonsoir,
C'est amusant parce que j'y vais aussi durant le mois d'octobre. Pour cette fois j'ai réservé à l'hôtel La Bardena Blanca à Arguedas, c'est près de l'entrée du parc. L'an dernier j'avais dormi dans le village d'Alfaro à l'hôtel Palacios durant le pont du 11/11, c'est un peu plus loin, si vous êtes en voiture cela ne pose aucun problème.
Il y a plusieurs entrées, je te conseille vraiment de visiter le site que j'ai indiqué dans mon précédent message, c'est une mine d'infos, toujours à jour. Pour le guide, si tu ne souhaites pas l'acheter tu peux peut-être le trouver en bibliothèque.
Oui, il y a des pistes à l'intérieur du parc, avec des espaces pour se garer et tu te balades, à pieds ou en vélo.
A l'entrée du parc à Arguedas, il y a une sorte de maison du tourisme où ils te donneront le plan du parc, mais le guide cité précédemment est beaucoup plus complet.
Site à consulter ici :
http://www.bardenasreales.es/turismo_fr_1v.htm
Dans le parc, tu te déplaces en voiture de sites en sites et t'arrêtes aux emplacements prévus lorsque bon te semble.
Pour des idées de visites regarde par exemple ce joli carnet de voyage : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6248048;search_string=bardenas%20reales
Pour te balader dans ce parc il faut que tu sois absolument sûre de la météo, il ne faut pas qu'il ait plu avant, ni pendant, c'est impraticable, voir dangereux.
Si les dates de ton séjour se situent entre le 15 et le 22 c'est la période des grandes marées, beau spectacle en perspective le long de la côte.
Dans le parc, tu te déplaces en voiture de sites en sites et t'arrêtes aux emplacements prévus lorsque bon te semble.
Pour des idées de visites regarde par exemple ce joli carnet de voyage : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6248048;search_string=bardenas%20reales
Pour te balader dans ce parc il faut que tu sois absolument sûre de la météo, il ne faut pas qu'il ait plu avant, ni pendant, c'est impraticable, voir dangereux.
Si les dates de ton séjour se situent entre le 15 et le 22 c'est la période des grandes marées, beau spectacle en perspective le long de la côte.
Bonsoir,
Merci pour tes réponses, nous y serons du 23/10 au 02/11 doc juste après les grandes marées si je comprends bien.
Me conseilles tu de loger dans des endroits différents autour du déserts pour entrer par des points différents ou n'est ce pas nécessaire ? Je ne me rends pas bien compte des distances.
Encore merci
Christine
Bonsoir,
Me conseilles tu de loger dans des endroits différents autour du déserts pour entrer par des points différents ou n'est ce pas nécessaire ? Je ne me rends pas bien compte des distances.
Encore merci
Christine
Bonjour, Il est inutile de changer de logement pour les différentes entrées du parc, c'est très proche. Sur un lien cité dans un de mes messages précédents tu peux consulter une carte qui répondra à tes questions concernant les distances, à voir ici : http://www.bardenasreales.es/turismo_fr_1s.htm
Bonjour, Il est inutile de changer de logement pour les différentes entrées du parc, c'est très proche. Sur un lien cité dans un de mes messages précédents tu peux consulter une carte qui répondra à tes questions concernant les distances, à voir ici : http://www.bardenasreales.es/turismo_fr_1s.htm
Bonjour,
Je reviens tout juste du désert des Bardenas, nous y avons randonné 4 jours, au début le terrain était "lourd" car il avait plu, ça a vite séché et c'était ensuite très ensoleillé et même chaud.
Nous sommes allés dans les "Bardenas Blancas", il y a de beaux sites.
Nous logions à "La Bardena Blanca" à Arguedas, très sympa, calme et convivial, un peu cher à mon avis pour la saison: 70€ la chambre avec le petit déjeuner mais possibilité d'utiliser la cuisine pour les petits déjeuners et les autres repas.
Il y a une jolie terrasse, la patronne est très sympa et nous a donné une bouteille de vin en partant. C'est au centre du village qui n'est pas très animé à cette saison mais on trouve quand même de quoi acheter ce qu'il faut pour le pique nique.
Il y a 3 restaurants très simples.
La maison du parc à l'entrée ne renseigne pas beaucoup pour les randos, ils disent qu'elles sont très limitées, c'est vrai qu'elles ne sont pas marquées mais nous avions un guide: "Randonnées dans le Désert des Bardenas Blancas" à pied et à VTT Béatrice Chupin et Hervé François, acheté sur internet, la librairie est à Rennes. On s'est débrouillé avec en suivant bien les indications et les traces de pneus de VTT quand le temps a été humide avant.
Officiellement il faut être sorti 1h avant le coucher du soleil mais ils n'ont pas l'air trop regardant!
La base militaire provoque des nuisances des avions de chasse, nous y avons eu droit environ 3/4 d'heure tous les jours plus ou moins entre 13h et 14h.
Nous avons fini notre voyage à San Sebastian (où nous nous sommes baignés) puis Bilbao, 2 belles villes.
Bien cordialement.
Christine
Bonjour et merci pour ce retour.
Pour l'hébergement, c'était une période de vacances scolaires. De bien belles maisons (ils en ont 2). Je voulais aller à Bilbao mais la personne qui m'accompagnait ne l'a pas souhaité ... je râle !
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I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann