Je prépare mon circuit dans le far west et en 11 jours, je voudrais en faire le maximum. Quelqu'un connaitrait un site du style mappy.com qui pourrait me donner les distances entre les villes et parcs nationaux ?
Ex distance moab/cortez, route à emprunter... Je pense avoir été raisonnable sur mes étapes, on verra.
Et je voulais savoir aussi à quelle heure se couche le soleil en juin, comme en france ?
Merci pour votre aide
Yadin le marseillais
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
L'équivalent de Mappy c'est www.mapquest.com
Il y a aussi www.randmcnally.com (éditeur des cartes et atlas routiers que l'on trouve dans les bonnes maisons de la presse) sans oublier Michelin www.viamichelin.com et son atlas routier Amérique nord.
Pour les heures solaires, peut être www.weather.com, mais de mémoire le soleil se couche un peu plus tôt que chez nous....surtout à cause de notre heure d'été...En fait ça dépend du coin : en Utah c'est le "mountain time" avec 1h de plus que Nevada et Californie. Et pour simplifier ...j'ajoute que les Territoires Navajo n'appliquent pas l'heure d'été....donc en faisant Monument Valley-Page-Grand Canyon rive nord, on change l'heure 2 fois !
Bonne promenade !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
et je suis de l'avis de Jadorry : une fois sur place achète le grand road atlas de Rand McNally, il est bien pratique. Ensuite si tu dois te retrouver dans des grandes villes (SF, LA, LV) il est bien utile d'avoir la carte détaillée afin de se repérer plus facilement sans perdre un temps précieux.
Salut !
Tatie
" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Bonjour Fabienne et merci à tous pour vos renseignements précieux,
En fait je suis déjà allé dans l'ouest en 2003 et je compte me concentrer sur l'utah et l'arizona pendant 11 jours.
On se pose à las vegas le jour 1
jour 2 zion et nuit à bryce canyon
Jour 3 bryce canyon et nuit à capitol reef
jour 4 capitol reef et nuit à moab
jour 5 canyonland et nuit à moab
jour 6 arches et nuit à cortez colorado
jour 7 mesa verde nuit à mexican hat
jour 8 monument valley nuit à page
jour 9 antelope canyon lake powell nuit à grand canyon
jour 10 grand canyon nuit à grand canyon
jour 11 sunset crater volcan et nuit à las vegas
jour 12 death valley et vol pour new york à 23h
jour 13 new york et vol pour la france à 22h
Tiens d'ailleur je me rappelle plus si les parc on une heure de fermeture le soir pour mon jour 9 on dort dans le parc au bright angel lodge.
Si quelqu'un sait...
Merci et bonnes fêtes à tous.
yadin
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
Bonjour Yadin,
Certains parcs ont une geure de fermeture. Mais de toutes façons, il s'agit d'une haure après le coucher du soleil. L'an passé, j'ai fait Arches la nuit, très décevant 😛. tu vois rien... 😎.
Sinon, ton parcours m'a lair correctement propotionné, même si tu vas effectivement faire beaucoup de route, tu le sais.
Le jour 11, sunset Crater ne vaut pas vraiment la route que tu t'apprêtes à faire. Entre GC et Las Vegas (sud) tu as au moins 4 h 30 de route...
Bon voyage.
J'ajouterai queles temps de parcours entre les différents sites sont souvents différents 🤪
Mapquest.com semble le plus proche dela réalité. Mapquest .fr a des temps de parcours différents !!! 😕 Je n'y ai jamais rien compris.
il y a de plein de jours supers mais pour moi ça tient un peu du marathon pour certains autres
Par exemple J9
antelope canyon (a tout hasard, pas la peine d'y aller si tu n'y es pas a midi pile😉)
lake powell?? quand??? pour quoi faire???si c'est juste pour jeter un oeil ça le fait, mais si tu veux faire une excursion en bateau (sinon pourquoi irais tu?😛) tu n'as pas le temps necessaire pour boucler le truc d'avant et celui d'apres
tu visites quoi et SI tu visites quelque chose quand roules tu pour arriver au Grand Canyon???
C'est ouvert 24/24h
J2:tu vas rester dans la voiture et rrrrrrrrouler
mais bon, c'est juste des petits details a regler😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Moi le J2, je resterais à Vegas et embrayer le J3 en traversant Zion puis Bryce l'APM quitte à y coucher !
Ensuite le J4 de Bryce vers Moab en traversant Capitol Reef qui ne visite pas à la légère, il faut vraiment faire de la rando, pas de points de vue accessibles en 5mn par voiture comme les autres parcs.
Bonjour,
Tu parles du Bright Angel Lodge et moi aussi je voudrais réserver pour le mois
d'aout mais pas moyen de trouver un numéro de fax ou un e.mail.
Les as-tu déjà contacté et comment ?
Je suis preneuse de l'info
Peux-tu me donner leur tarif
Merci d'avance
Cathy
Ne tente pas une resa en direct sur le site, car tout est déjà pris. et rien ne dit que pour Aout il reste encore quelque chose🤪
Bonne chance, tu verras c'est un lodge super... la tete dans les etoiles et les pieds dans le canyon... on ne peut pas faire plus près😉
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Concernant le j9 comme on dort à Page la veille, on pourra faire antelope canyon à midi et le lac powell est tout proche donc on ira l'après midi. Pour le bateau je sais plus les horaires mais de memoire c'était hors de prix, donc je pense qu'on ne fera qu'y passer ou peut etre on fera du jet ski...c'est cool le jetski..après la route vers grand canyon prends à peu pres 3 heures, si c'est ouvert 24h/24 c'est cool on fera un check in au bright angel lodge dans le nuit.
Sinon pour les autres jours ouais y a de la route mais bon on est jeune et c'est pas grave si on se tape 3 heures par jour (prevues en soiree) de voiture.
J'ai prévu une arrivée tardive dans tous les motels où on dort comme ça on est sur place pour visiter le lendemain matin (ex capitol reef)
Allez à plus tout le monde, merci pour vos messages et... vive les vacances
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
Pour le j2 : route de las vegas vers zion 2h30, visite du parc au pas de course je te l'accorde mais c'est pas mon préféré, j'y vais juste parce qu'on passe devant. Ensuite, vers 16h, route vers panguitch ( pres de bryce canyon) environ 2h. Nuit
J3 Visite de bryce canyon toute la journée et le soir route vers torrey à l'entrée de capitol reef puis nuit.
j4 capitol reef toute la journée et route vers moab le soir 3h.
ça laisse en fait une journée par parc pratiquement, et au fait comment est capitol reef j'ai pas visité celui là?
merci à plus
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
La route le traverse donc tu n'as rien a faire sinon profiter du paysage.
Tu peux prendre quelques routes qui t'amenent a d'autres points de vue, mais etant donne la maniere dont tu voyages, tu n'en auras pas le temps.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Page--> Grand canyon en 3 heures, c'est dans tes reves😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
honnetement je sais plus le temps de route je vais faire un tour sur mapqest.com
En 2003 j'avais fait pris mes dernieres photos de grand canyon le matin, depart pour lake powell vers 11h arrivée la bas vers 14h ou 15h plage, bateau vers 18h et retour à williams vers 1h du matin un truc comme ça je sais plus
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
chacun son style🤪
mais si tu respectes le code de la route et si tu n'y vas pas QUE pour profiter de la belle auto et t'entriner au rallye... ça devrait prendre plus de temps
Sur mapquest n'oublie pas que les temps sont comptes sans les arrets cafe-pipi-photos-dej-delire-neige-travaux qui peuvent rallonger singulierement les temps de trajet😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Je sais pas quelle version de Mapquest tu utilises mais Capitol Reef - Moab c'est 4h00 !!!
Rien de grave mais si tu grattes 1h00 à chaque fois sur les estimations sur un programme déjà serré vous allez au devant de graves désillusions .
En plus, vous ne buvez ou mangez jamais, pas de plein d'essence, et arrivée en vrac dans les hotels en fin de soirée ?
Moi j'veux bien mais vous n'avez aucune marge de manoeuvre et comme tu dis " visite au pas de course " ....
Ca ressemble presque à un rallye où on collectionne les étapes sans vraiment en profiter !
😎😎 c'est vrai que sur mapquest il me donne 3 h via cameron et desert view mais franchement vu que j'emmene la belle mere et qu'il faut compter les arrets pipi... ca va drolement rallonger, merci du tuyau javais legerement oublié ce detail...
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
ba traite les de vieux 😛
moi aussi je suis jeune et j'ai fait ce circuit
et franchement ma notion de la découverte c pas juste poser mon pied dans un parc et faire une photo mais profiter ! y rester des heures...
mais aussi profiter de soirées sympas 😎
c pour ça que nous à l'inverse on a choisit de dormir près du parc fait le jour même pke 3 heures de route le soir : très moyen...
préfèrais l'attaquer à la fraiche le matin.
voilà
pour la croisière sur le lac powell, la plus longue c matin ou rien, sinon les autres c début d'après-midi ne t'avises pas d'arriver en retard pke aller au lac pour pas faire de croisière 😮
ah quel beau voyage 😇
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
en parlant de tuyau justement c'est peut etre une option pour la belle mère😛
penses y.... ça devrait te faire gagner au moins 1 heure.... et evite de lui proposer des boissons apres 7h le matin ... tu devrais encore gagner une heure!! et surtout pas de bière... autrement tu cours a la catastrophe ecologique, ce qui tout de même te ralentirai d'au moins 1/4 d'heure😉
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
pour le manger ce sera sandwich ou mac do rapide ou jack in the box on va pas aux states pour manger...ni pour dormir (8h ca suffit)
Mais c'est vrai comme le dit notre ami c'est sympas de profiter des soirées, on verra. De toutes facon je peut pas rallonger les vacances, la premiere fois ca c'etait bien passé...
Ce qui me fait halluciner ce sont les agences de voyages qui proposent ce voyage en 8 jours avec les memes etapes.
Et tu as raison c'est 4h entre capitol reef oh ca va c'est pas la mer à boire c'est marseille lyon, ca se fait vite.
Sans dec moi je prefere rouler le soir c'est plus serein et tranquille tant pis si on arrive tard, au moins la belle mere elle dort et elle fait pas pipi😛😛😛
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
babababababa
tu l'as dit quand je vois le voyage que j'ai fait sur 3 semaines
proposé en 12 jours par les T.O j'hallucine 😠
si tu préfères rouler le soir alors suis ton instinct, tu seras le seul à rouler?
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
on se relaye on est 3 conducteurs du coup en cas de fatigue y en a un qui prend le ralai. En tout cas rouler ne me derange pas avec ces voitures trop mechantes qu'ils ont la bas
Ah vivement le mois de juin...
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
Tu aurais pas un petit problème 🤪avec les distances où tu n'es jamais monté à Lyon
C'est vrai que c'est le nord pour vous 😉, mais moi en respectant les limites de vitesse je mets 3h au max (sans pause pipi et sans ma belle-mère)
tu devrais revoir tes distances .......... si tu veux pas trouver ta chambre relouée en arrivant 🤪
marseille lyon 3 h c'est en tgv il y a 6 ans en voiture c'est 4 h puisque tu mets presque une heure pour traverser marseille selon ou tu habites et aussi une haure pour entrer dans lyon selon ou tu vas...
Concernant les hôtels il y a un truc qui s'appelle "late arrival", ça veut dire que tu as prévenu l'hotel que tu arrivais tard et il t'ont pris un numéro de carte pour la réservation, donc pas de pb de relouation de ta chambre...
en fait je suis jamais allé à lyon en voiture...😉😉😉
La vie n'est qu'un bail, duquel on ne contrôle pas la durée...
en plus pour aller à lyon tu peux etre retarder par les tempetes de neige, de grele, les bourrasques de vent glaciaires que vous avez dans ce grand nord syberien...😎😎😎
c'est ça des que tu passe le cercle polaire au dessus d'aix en provence. ah les nordistes!!!
au fait
bonnes fêtes
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!