El Golea en Algérie
by Cricri7
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
j envisage de me rendre a el golea en mars 2007 pouvez vous me donner des tuyaux sur les vols pour m y rendre et les possibilites dhebergement dans cette oasis
betty
Bonjour,
Tu vas avoir des réponses ça c'est sûr.
Les Vols seront à Ghardaïa via Alger. Ou Alger et route.. Les hotels : le seul praticable sera l'Hotel du vieux ksar, qui est sympa, ah oui, mais pas situé au vieux ksar. Les formules chez l'habitant vont t'être proposées, j'en suis sûr.
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Tu vas avoir des réponses ça c'est sûr.
Les Vols seront à Ghardaïa via Alger. Ou Alger et route.. Les hotels : le seul praticable sera l'Hotel du vieux ksar, qui est sympa, ah oui, mais pas situé au vieux ksar. Les formules chez l'habitant vont t'être proposées, j'en suis sûr.
@+
Rouler Jeunesse
Bonsoir!
Je vais à El Golea en avril, tu ne peux pas retarder ? Nous pourrions y aller ensemble 😉, mais moi c'est pour 15 jours
Vol sec jusqu'à Alger, puis bus jusqu'à El Golea
Pour l'hébergement, il y a peut-être des solutions autres que l'hotel....à voir
Le but de ton voyage ? Tourisme?
Je vais à El Golea en avril, tu ne peux pas retarder ? Nous pourrions y aller ensemble 😉, mais moi c'est pour 15 jours
Vol sec jusqu'à Alger, puis bus jusqu'à El Golea
Pour l'hébergement, il y a peut-être des solutions autres que l'hotel....à voir
Le but de ton voyage ? Tourisme?
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
Bonsoir!!
Je vois que tu vas faire confiance à quelqu'un pour les infos....😉
Merci
Martine
Je vois que tu vas faire confiance à quelqu'un pour les infos....😉
Merci
Martine
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
Je pense qu'il y a un avion alger tam qui fait escale à El Goléa, je l'ai pris moi même il y 5 ans, sinon par Ghardaîa et aprés taxi vers le sud.
Pourquoi El Goléa ? y a pas grand chose à faire par là.
Attention !!! printemps = saison des vents de sable, donc les avions c'est limite quand on a un programme juste juste.
Pour les hotels il y a le boustane, il faut pas s'attendre au grand luxe, c'est juste pour dormir...
salut.
Maandnach ou maykhessnach
Bonjour,
Afin de te mettre à jour, je suis désolée de t'apprendre qu'Air Algérie ne dessert plus l'aéroport d'El Golea, ni de Timimoun d'ailleurs durant cet hiver ! Merci pour la politique commerciale d'Air Algérie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taxi = à éviter à cause d'un grand nombre d'accidents dûs à une conduite hasardeuse...; en plus être pressé comme une sardine dans un taxi collectif, il y a mieux ! Il vaut mieux prendre le bus entre Ghardaia et El Golea !
Et je vois que cela fait longtemps que tu n'as pas mis tes pieds à El Golea, pour conseiller l'Hôtel El Boustane ! Cet hôtel est en vente et complètement délabré... et sert surtout de lieu de débauche alcolique ! Tous les après-midis et soirs, des hommes vont se saouler sur place....!!!! Même pour dormir ce n'est plus fréquentable du tout !!
Pour revenir sur El Golea, il n'y a pas toujours des raisons purement touristiques ! ET il y a de quoi faire entre El Golea et le Grand Erg...
Lili
Afin de te mettre à jour, je suis désolée de t'apprendre qu'Air Algérie ne dessert plus l'aéroport d'El Golea, ni de Timimoun d'ailleurs durant cet hiver ! Merci pour la politique commerciale d'Air Algérie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taxi = à éviter à cause d'un grand nombre d'accidents dûs à une conduite hasardeuse...; en plus être pressé comme une sardine dans un taxi collectif, il y a mieux ! Il vaut mieux prendre le bus entre Ghardaia et El Golea !
Et je vois que cela fait longtemps que tu n'as pas mis tes pieds à El Golea, pour conseiller l'Hôtel El Boustane ! Cet hôtel est en vente et complètement délabré... et sert surtout de lieu de débauche alcolique ! Tous les après-midis et soirs, des hommes vont se saouler sur place....!!!! Même pour dormir ce n'est plus fréquentable du tout !!
Pour revenir sur El Golea, il n'y a pas toujours des raisons purement touristiques ! ET il y a de quoi faire entre El Golea et le Grand Erg...
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Les taxis ne font pas plus d'accidents que les bus et restent beaucoup plus confortables et rapides sur les longs trajets, je vis en algerie et j'utilise souvent ce genre de transport pour savoir aussi un peu de quoi je parle.
Les hotels sont dans beaucoup de cas aussi les rares endroits ou l'on trouve de l'alcool surtout dans les petits patelins, ça n'en fait pas des coupe-gorges et je ne pense pas que la population buveuse d'El Golea soit différente de celle d'autres villes d'Algerie. Je vois que tu casse l'hotel boustan pour des raisons qui m'échappe à moins que tu n'y ait un intéret quelconque.
Je sejourne souvent dans les vieux hotels étatiques type EGT et je persiste à dire qu'ils restent les seuls endroits "fréquentables" comme tu dis.
Tu as des jugements trop tranchés, qui me font douter de tes véritables motivations.
Maandnach ou maykhessnach
Je ne vois pas du tout pour quelle façon tu mets en doute mes dires, d'autant plus que je vis sur place à El Golea !!!
L'hôtel El Boustane est dans un état de délabrement avancé, et est en vente... Les employés font plutôt acte de présence et les piscines vides et complètement cassé dans un jardin à l'abandon, ssans compter la "bodega" d'où sortent tous les soirs de pauvres gens complètement KO... et que je croisent tous les jours ! Je vis en centre ville ! A tel point que des gens de passage, préfèrent aller coucher à l'Auberge de Jeunesse (qui est en travaux de rénovation et de modernisation actuellement) plutôt que d'entrer dans cet hôtel... D'ailleurs, l'APC ne le présente plus aux visiteurs et les villas d'hôtes des APC et Daira permettent désormais d'héberger les invités d'honneur. Avant ils étaient hébergés dans cet hôtel mais c'est terminé maintenant... D'ailleurs une société étrangère envisage de l'acheter mais pour héberger le personnel.
Tu vois, en quoi consiste mes "véritables intentions"... Je vis et je travaille dans le Sahara, et de ce fait je connais bien le terrain...
Concernant les taxis, être coincé à 7 dans un taxi, je ne vois pas le confort... bien que chacun a ses idées sur la notion confort... Les grands cars de tourisme présentent un confort et un service (TV, arrêts fréquents, 2 chauffeurs) qui permet aux voyageurs d'être en sécurité en ayant un fauteuil à l'aise. J'ai parcouru de très longues distances en car, et tout récemment sur le tronçon Alger/ Ghadaia il y a eu plus de 13 morts et 6 blessés très graves dans des taxis et ceci en qques semaines !
Si tu as besoin de plus de précision encore n'hésites pas ! C'est avec un réel plaisir que je t'informerai !
Lili
L'hôtel El Boustane est dans un état de délabrement avancé, et est en vente... Les employés font plutôt acte de présence et les piscines vides et complètement cassé dans un jardin à l'abandon, ssans compter la "bodega" d'où sortent tous les soirs de pauvres gens complètement KO... et que je croisent tous les jours ! Je vis en centre ville ! A tel point que des gens de passage, préfèrent aller coucher à l'Auberge de Jeunesse (qui est en travaux de rénovation et de modernisation actuellement) plutôt que d'entrer dans cet hôtel... D'ailleurs, l'APC ne le présente plus aux visiteurs et les villas d'hôtes des APC et Daira permettent désormais d'héberger les invités d'honneur. Avant ils étaient hébergés dans cet hôtel mais c'est terminé maintenant... D'ailleurs une société étrangère envisage de l'acheter mais pour héberger le personnel.
Tu vois, en quoi consiste mes "véritables intentions"... Je vis et je travaille dans le Sahara, et de ce fait je connais bien le terrain...
Concernant les taxis, être coincé à 7 dans un taxi, je ne vois pas le confort... bien que chacun a ses idées sur la notion confort... Les grands cars de tourisme présentent un confort et un service (TV, arrêts fréquents, 2 chauffeurs) qui permet aux voyageurs d'être en sécurité en ayant un fauteuil à l'aise. J'ai parcouru de très longues distances en car, et tout récemment sur le tronçon Alger/ Ghadaia il y a eu plus de 13 morts et 6 blessés très graves dans des taxis et ceci en qques semaines !
Si tu as besoin de plus de précision encore n'hésites pas ! C'est avec un réel plaisir que je t'informerai !
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Salut
Crois moi tassili a entierement raison au sujet de l'état de délabrement total de cet hotel. Malheureusement ce n'est plus ce splendide endroit que nous a légué Mr pouillon ( faute de rentabilité )
Personnelement je me déplace souvent à el goléa et je ne le recommanderai pour personne .
Par contre le vieux ksar ( rien que pour ces jardins) ainsi que l'auberge sont plus pratiques .
Au fait c'est pas le désert à el goléa et cela vaut vraiment qu'on s'y attarde( les jardins, la chapelle, le musée, le lac...)
Cordialemnt
Crois moi tassili a entierement raison au sujet de l'état de délabrement total de cet hotel. Malheureusement ce n'est plus ce splendide endroit que nous a légué Mr pouillon ( faute de rentabilité )
Personnelement je me déplace souvent à el goléa et je ne le recommanderai pour personne .
Par contre le vieux ksar ( rien que pour ces jardins) ainsi que l'auberge sont plus pratiques .
Au fait c'est pas le désert à el goléa et cela vaut vraiment qu'on s'y attarde( les jardins, la chapelle, le musée, le lac...)
Cordialemnt
"le désert n'est pas silencieux , il parle aux gens qui l'écoutent"
Bonsoir,
Il y a des avions au départ de Paris, de Lyon aussi, pour Alger et ensuite des bus pour El golea ( 10h de voyage)
Tu peux tout trouver sur le net et faire ton choix de date et d'heure.
Et en un "clic" tu as ta réservation
Sur Google, tu écris El golea et tu as plusieurs sites interressants avec plein de photos.
Bonne recherche
Martine
erreur, c'est pour "CRICRI"...
Et en un "clic" tu as ta réservation
Sur Google, tu écris El golea et tu as plusieurs sites interressants avec plein de photos.
Bonne recherche
Martine
erreur, c'est pour "CRICRI"...
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
BONJOUR
je suis à la recherche hebergement à el golea pour 2 personnes semaine du 16 au 25 mars 2007 de preference chez l'habitant .POssible??
hotel du vieux ksar est il bien??ou se trouve cet hotel
auberge de jeunesse bien??
commen obtenir certifica hebergement
MERCI de me repondre
@+
betty
Bonjour,
Chez l'habitant à El Meniaa, tu seras toujours redevable ou tout au moins tu le ressentira à un moment ou un autre.
L'Hötel du Vieux Ksar, il n'est pas mal. Il fait aussi un musée et il est sûr tout comme le proprio ; j'ai fais quelque traversées avec son frère. Il se touve : sur la route d'In Salah après le centre ville, impossible de le manquer. En tout cas tout le monde connait.
Auberge de jeunesse : je ne connais pas et ça ne représente pas mon intérêt dans cette contrée.
Le certificat d'hebegement : il faut connaître des gens qui peuvent te l'obtenir, des Algériens ça c'est indipensable. Mais ça te lie aussi. Enfin si tu est déjà déjà lié depuis l'enfance alors pas de pb. Je dirais que " on ne choisi pas sa famille, on ne choisi pas ses parents et on ne choisi pas ses amis... Enfin bien préparé tu seras contente et libre aussi je pense.
@+
Chez l'habitant à El Meniaa, tu seras toujours redevable ou tout au moins tu le ressentira à un moment ou un autre.
L'Hötel du Vieux Ksar, il n'est pas mal. Il fait aussi un musée et il est sûr tout comme le proprio ; j'ai fais quelque traversées avec son frère. Il se touve : sur la route d'In Salah après le centre ville, impossible de le manquer. En tout cas tout le monde connait.
Auberge de jeunesse : je ne connais pas et ça ne représente pas mon intérêt dans cette contrée.
Le certificat d'hebegement : il faut connaître des gens qui peuvent te l'obtenir, des Algériens ça c'est indipensable. Mais ça te lie aussi. Enfin si tu est déjà déjà lié depuis l'enfance alors pas de pb. Je dirais que " on ne choisi pas sa famille, on ne choisi pas ses parents et on ne choisi pas ses amis... Enfin bien préparé tu seras contente et libre aussi je pense.
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Rouler Jeunesse
Entierement d'accord, vaut mieux l'hotel même pas luxueux au moins, contrôlé par la police etc... vous serez en sécurité mieux que chez l'habitant dans des conditions hasardeuses.
Vous payez votre chambre et vous avez tout le loisir de lier connaissance avec les gens que vous voulez. Sur le net il n y a pas que des gens serviables et n'oubliez pas que tout prétendu service sous entend une attente...
Une simple reservation d'hotel par fax suffit aux formalités de visas et apres vous vous balladez ou vous voulez dans le pays.
salut.
Vous payez votre chambre et vous avez tout le loisir de lier connaissance avec les gens que vous voulez. Sur le net il n y a pas que des gens serviables et n'oubliez pas que tout prétendu service sous entend une attente...
Une simple reservation d'hotel par fax suffit aux formalités de visas et apres vous vous balladez ou vous voulez dans le pays.
salut.
Maandnach ou maykhessnach
Bonjour
hotel du vieux ksar .hassi el guarra, El goléa, à la sortie dela ville (213 29) 81 43 10 ou 81 43 43 cordialement
hotel du vieux ksar .hassi el guarra, El goléa, à la sortie dela ville (213 29) 81 43 10 ou 81 43 43 cordialement
"le désert n'est pas silencieux , il parle aux gens qui l'écoutent"
Bonjour,
Ben oui bon accueil au Vieux Ksar. Ce sont des pro et ça se sent et le contraire m'aurais étonné...
Les renseignements sur place sont bons aussi. Le reste est du pipo, de la palabre...
Par contre rendre visite au Boustan, car les types sont chic et ils méritent votre visite. Eux aussi vous expliqueront tout, ils sont là depuis longtemps😉.
😉 loubam, tinariwen et @+
Bon voyage, et bon séjour.
😉 loubam, tinariwen et @+
Bon voyage, et bon séjour.
Rouler Jeunesse
Bonsoir,
Je partirai de Lyon, c'est plus près de mon domicile que Paris.
Un avion (hélas, car mon temps est limité à 15 jours, sinon, j'aurai pris le bateau) qui doit arrivé à 10h45 à Alger et il y a un bus pour El Golea à 14h à la gare routière. C'est le seul de la journée qui va à El Golea direct.
A plus
Martine
Je partirai de Lyon, c'est plus près de mon domicile que Paris.
Un avion (hélas, car mon temps est limité à 15 jours, sinon, j'aurai pris le bateau) qui doit arrivé à 10h45 à Alger et il y a un bus pour El Golea à 14h à la gare routière. C'est le seul de la journée qui va à El Golea direct.
A plus
Martine
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
Bonsoir!
Je croyais qu'il n'y avait plus de vol entre Alger et Ghardaia, pour l'intant.
Où as-tu pêché cette info?😉
A+
Martine
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
Bonsoir!
Merci pour cette information. Même si je n'ai que 15 jours pour ce voyage, il est important pour moi, à partir d'Alger, de vivre au rythme du pays, donc de prendre le temps d'arriver à El Golea . Ce sera le bus, Alger-El Golea.
Amicalement
Martine
Merci pour cette information. Même si je n'ai que 15 jours pour ce voyage, il est important pour moi, à partir d'Alger, de vivre au rythme du pays, donc de prendre le temps d'arriver à El Golea . Ce sera le bus, Alger-El Golea.
Amicalement
Martine
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
Bonsoir!
Je ne pense pas qu'il faille dire "être redevable" aux personnes qui t'offrent l'hospitalité. La bienséance, quelque soit le pays veut( à mon avis, et je ne pense pas être la seule à penser cela sur ce forum)que la moindre des choses est de participer soit à la nourriture, soit en offrant quelque chose aux Hôtes.
J'appèlerai plutôt çà "un échange".N'est-ce pas le but premier de nos voyages? ECHANGER? Ce n'est pas parce que nous "arrivons en touriste " que tout nous est du. Et le respect envers les gens du pays accueillant, qu'est-ce que tu en fais?
Certificat d'hébergement..je préférerai plutôt...Invitation...ce serait plus juste . Et lorsque tu es invité ...tu viens les mains vides ???? Pas moi !
Je ne pense pas qu'il faille dire "être redevable" aux personnes qui t'offrent l'hospitalité. La bienséance, quelque soit le pays veut( à mon avis, et je ne pense pas être la seule à penser cela sur ce forum)que la moindre des choses est de participer soit à la nourriture, soit en offrant quelque chose aux Hôtes.
J'appèlerai plutôt çà "un échange".N'est-ce pas le but premier de nos voyages? ECHANGER? Ce n'est pas parce que nous "arrivons en touriste " que tout nous est du. Et le respect envers les gens du pays accueillant, qu'est-ce que tu en fais?
Certificat d'hébergement..je préférerai plutôt...Invitation...ce serait plus juste . Et lorsque tu es invité ...tu viens les mains vides ???? Pas moi !
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Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!




