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Vu le temps dont je dispose je ne sais pas si je pourrai faire les deux.
Vous préférez quelle partie du parc ? et pourquoi ?
Quelles est la différence au niveau du paysage entre les 2 ?
merci
Canyonlands: visiter Island of the Sky ou The Needles?
by Inesines
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour
Tu as parfaitement raison de te poser ces questions car les 2 parties du parc sont éloignées de 150 km l'une de l'autre, de ce fait il est très difficile de les faire le mème jour; si tu diposes de 2 journées, le mieux serait de les faire les 2; si tu n'en disposes pas, tu choisis sans hésiter Island In The Sky car tu as des paysages plus diversifiés et tu as comme bonus Dead Horse Point qui n'est pas loin de concurrencer le Grand Canyon.
De surcroit, à la pointe sud d'Island In The Sky, se dresse le plus de vue le plus spectaculaire de l'ouest américain: Grand View Point Overlook
"lorsqu'au crépuscule de ma vie je me retournerai, je dirai: c'est moi qui ai vécu et non un ètre factice créé par mes ennuis et mes regrets"
Bonjour,
ça va dépendre aussi d'où tu viens...du Sud ou de l'Ouest ? et vers où tu continue !
Les Needles sont pas mal avec 3 petites balades (Pothole, Roadside, CaveSprings) et plus si randonneurs. + les pétroglyphes avant d'y arriver. Mais le détour est un peu long. J'y ai bien aimé le calme...
à + Jean
voir mes jours 8 et 10 sur le blog.
Les Needles sont pas mal avec 3 petites balades (Pothole, Roadside, CaveSprings) et plus si randonneurs. + les pétroglyphes avant d'y arriver. Mais le détour est un peu long. J'y ai bien aimé le calme...
à + Jean
voir mes jours 8 et 10 sur le blog.
4 fois en Camping-car: Parcs US - NewMex - Yellowst - Louisiane.
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2009/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2011/
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
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Hi !
Si tu as les moyens , le tour d'1h en avion permet de voir les 3 parties de Canyonland - bien en début de journée comme l'aéroport de Moab est proche, on doit y associer Dead Horse Point et Island in the sky Sans grande randonnée, on termine la journée par une descente de Shafer Trail et retour à Moab par Potace road.
Sinon, les Needles se couple avec NewsPaper Rock (sur la route -10 minutes d'arrêt) mais après, c'est randonnée ou tour organisé en 4x4
Mais pour moi, et j'insiste, le tour en avion est au-dessus du survol de Grand Canyon en hélico
Bern
Si tu as les moyens , le tour d'1h en avion permet de voir les 3 parties de Canyonland - bien en début de journée comme l'aéroport de Moab est proche, on doit y associer Dead Horse Point et Island in the sky Sans grande randonnée, on termine la journée par une descente de Shafer Trail et retour à Moab par Potace road.
Sinon, les Needles se couple avec NewsPaper Rock (sur la route -10 minutes d'arrêt) mais après, c'est randonnée ou tour organisé en 4x4
Mais pour moi, et j'insiste, le tour en avion est au-dessus du survol de Grand Canyon en hélico
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Bonjour,
je précise que je suis avec 2 jeunes enfants , alors Island est il plus adapté que the Needles ?
Sans hésitation, oui. La pluspart des points de vues se font avec juste une petite marche aisément faisable avec de jeunes enfants. Par contre, il faudra faire très attention à eux car les chutes sont possibles.
je précise que je suis avec 2 jeunes enfants , alors Island est il plus adapté que the Needles ?
Sans hésitation, oui. La pluspart des points de vues se font avec juste une petite marche aisément faisable avec de jeunes enfants. Par contre, il faudra faire très attention à eux car les chutes sont possibles.
Hi
Oui, pour les enfants
je pense que vous avez prévu Arches NP un autre jour (?) sinon, laisser tomber Canyonland et emmener les enfants voir les arches
Bern
Oui, pour les enfants
je pense que vous avez prévu Arches NP un autre jour (?) sinon, laisser tomber Canyonland et emmener les enfants voir les arches
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Island of the Sky sans aucun doute ....
et s'il y a un point de vue à ne pas manquer (pour moi) = le Green River Overloock 🙂🙂🙂
http://images.google.fr/images?q=green+river+overlook&oe=utf-8&rlz=1R1GGGL_fr__FR344&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=HcraSr2zBprbjQfNuvjUCA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CB8QsAQwAw
clode68
Ca dépend surtout de ce que vous comptez faire.
Si vous voulez faire un peu de rando, il y a de belles ballades à faire à The Needles, faciles, courtes ou longues. Pour Island in The Sky, c'est surtout pour les points de vue. Personnellement, nous avons adoré The Needles et nous avons été assez déçues par Island in the sky (cf, mon carnet de voyage via mon profil).
Il est vrai que si vous ne venez pas du sud, le détour peut être un peu long. Mais franchement, ça vaut le coup !!
Si vous voulez faire un peu de rando, il y a de belles ballades à faire à The Needles, faciles, courtes ou longues. Pour Island in The Sky, c'est surtout pour les points de vue. Personnellement, nous avons adoré The Needles et nous avons été assez déçues par Island in the sky (cf, mon carnet de voyage via mon profil).
Il est vrai que si vous ne venez pas du sud, le détour peut être un peu long. Mais franchement, ça vaut le coup !!
Pour accéder à mes carnets de voyages : via mon profil sur voyageforum.com ou
http://ensemble-sur-la-route.perso.sfr.fr/ensemble-sur-la-route.perso.sfr.fr/Bienvenue.html
http://dix.mois.entre.parentheses.perso.sfr.fr/dix.mois.entre.parentheses.perso.sfr.fr/Bienvenue.html
Island in the Sky (et Dead Horse Point) , c'est le must au niveau des points de vue (après grand canyon...mais à choisir je préfère Island in the Sky ...)
Arch Park ... c est beau, il y a les arches, il y a des ballades (et du monde)
les Needles, j'y ai été une fois - et n'y on y retourne pas ...
mais pour les "grands espaces" c'est Island in the sky
donc c'est une question de choix .... fais une recherche de photos sur google pour te faire une idée
de toutes façons ce sera "bien" enjoy😉
donc c'est une question de choix .... fais une recherche de photos sur google pour te faire une idée
de toutes façons ce sera "bien" enjoy😉
clode68
Bonjour,
Island pour les points de vu .
The needles pour la petite ou grande randonnées
Bonjour,
Combien de temps avez-vous prévu de rester sur Moab et de où arriverez-vous ? Je pose la question car suivant comment, vous pourriez peut-être quand même prévoir de visiter une petite partie de ''The Needles''...
Pour répondre à ta question... si je dois faire un choix entre les 2, je pense que ma préférence irait du côté de ''Island of the Sky'' pour ses magnifiques points de vue. Par contre, ne surtout pas manquer ''Dead Horse Point''. Arches NP, je te le recommande car différent de Cannyonlands et sympa à visiter pour les enfants d'après ce que j'ai pu constater avec les miens.
Combien de temps avez-vous prévu de rester sur Moab et de où arriverez-vous ? Je pose la question car suivant comment, vous pourriez peut-être quand même prévoir de visiter une petite partie de ''The Needles''...
Pour répondre à ta question... si je dois faire un choix entre les 2, je pense que ma préférence irait du côté de ''Island of the Sky'' pour ses magnifiques points de vue. Par contre, ne surtout pas manquer ''Dead Horse Point''. Arches NP, je te le recommande car différent de Cannyonlands et sympa à visiter pour les enfants d'après ce que j'ai pu constater avec les miens.
Sur les routes de Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Monument Valley, Apache Trail et Death Valley en vidéo: https://voyageforum.com/forum/etats-unis_sur_les_routes_las_vegas_los_angeles_monument_valley_apache_trail_D4787367/
Dans ce cas, il vous faut visiter The Needles avant votre arrivée à Moab étant donné que l'entrée du parc se situe à plusieurs km de la ville...
Vous pouvez ''faire'' Newspaper Rock, Roadside Ruin et Cave Spring.
Cave Spring est vraiment sympa car la balade passe par un ancien camp de cowboys, des grottes, puis il y a une échelle qu'il vous faudra grimper pour bénéficier de beaux points de vue sur la région. La balade est courte (1km) et amusante pour les enfants.
Cave Spring est vraiment sympa car la balade passe par un ancien camp de cowboys, des grottes, puis il y a une échelle qu'il vous faudra grimper pour bénéficier de beaux points de vue sur la région. La balade est courte (1km) et amusante pour les enfants.
Sur les routes de Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Monument Valley, Apache Trail et Death Valley en vidéo: https://voyageforum.com/forum/etats-unis_sur_les_routes_las_vegas_los_angeles_monument_valley_apache_trail_D4787367/
Ensuite, le lendemain matin, vous pouvez commencer par la visite de Island in the Sky, puis visite de Arches NP l'après-midi en ayant décidé à l'avance des balades que vous voulez faire car vous n'aurez pas suffisamment de temps pour visiter tout le parc... Finir par le coucher du soleil à Dead Horse Point si tes enfants sont trop petits pour effectuer la balade jusqu'à Delicate Arch.
Dommage de ne pas prévoir 1 nuit supplémentaire sur place car il y a route 128 qui est vraiment magnifique, entre autres...
Dommage de ne pas prévoir 1 nuit supplémentaire sur place car il y a route 128 qui est vraiment magnifique, entre autres...
Sur les routes de Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Monument Valley, Apache Trail et Death Valley en vidéo: https://voyageforum.com/forum/etats-unis_sur_les_routes_las_vegas_los_angeles_monument_valley_apache_trail_D4787367/
Et comme dit plus haut par Doni...c'est sur la route !
il y a aussi Pothole trail, assez court et sympa.
Un peu avant Moab (à LaSal Jct) voir Wilson Arch, c'est au bord de la route.
C'est mon jour 10 sur le blog.
PJ quelques souvenirs.
à + Jean
4 fois en Camping-car: Parcs US - NewMex - Yellowst - Louisiane.
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2009/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2011/
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
Andalousie, Bretagne, Corse, Provence, Sicile, Toscane, villes d'Italie.
sur : http://blogs.crespel.me/
Tout a fait en accord avec Doni.
Les petites ballades à Needle sont bien avec les enfants, ils peuvent crapahuter un peu partout sans danger.
Island in the sky reste un magnifique point de vue, mais ou il faut faire attention à ce qu'ils font car vertigineux. Alors pour eux, cela n'a été qu'un point de vue de plus, et ce n'est pas ce que mes enfants apprecient le plus (sauf mon fils de 5ans qui a cru que c'etait une empreinte de dinosaure géant...). Par contre, ils ont effectivement bien aimé Arches, car là encore, ce n'est pas de la simple ballade sur sentier, mais on peut grimper à droite à gauche.
apres tout est affaire de gout .
Island in the sky reste un magnifique point de vue, mais ou il faut faire attention à ce qu'ils font car vertigineux. Alors pour eux, cela n'a été qu'un point de vue de plus, et ce n'est pas ce que mes enfants apprecient le plus (sauf mon fils de 5ans qui a cru que c'etait une empreinte de dinosaure géant...). Par contre, ils ont effectivement bien aimé Arches, car là encore, ce n'est pas de la simple ballade sur sentier, mais on peut grimper à droite à gauche.
apres tout est affaire de gout .
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!