Donc prudence pour les voyageurs qui veulent tenter leur chance après le 15/11/2011 ! A suivre....
Changements pour l'obtention d'un permis pour The Wave
by Pong
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
Je ne sais pas si l'information a déjà été donnée sur le Forum,
(après une recherche je ne l'ai pas vue)
mais voici ce que j'ai trouvé sur le net :
http://www.thewave.info/
Effective November 15, 2011 the walk-in lottery for next day permits will be held year round in Kanab.
The walk-in lottery will no longer be held during the non-winter months at the Paria contact station.
The lottery will be held at the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument (GSE-NM) visitor center on Highway 89 on the eastern edge of Kanab.
The address is 745 E. Highway 89, the phone number is (435) 644-4680.
The visitor center is open from 8:00 AM to 4:30 PM seven days a week.
I assume the lottery will be still be held at 9:00 AM Mountain time.
The visitor center is open seven days a week so it is likely that the practice of holding the lottery for Saturday, Sunday, and Monday permits on Friday morning during the winter months will be abandoned.
I expect the lottery will be held every day year round except for national holidays.
If you plan to enter the walk-in lottery after November 15, 2011
you should call the GSE-NM visitor center to confirm the above.
Donc prudence pour les voyageurs qui veulent tenter leur chance après le 15/11/2011 ! A suivre....
Donc prudence pour les voyageurs qui veulent tenter leur chance après le 15/11/2011 ! A suivre....
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en version plus ou moins française (d'après Google translate)
Effectif à partir de Novembre 15 2011,
Tout au long de l'année sans rendez-vous à la loterie de permis de jour prochain se tiendra à Kanab.
Le rendez-vous à la loterie ne seront plus tenues durant les "non-mois d'hiver" (?) à la station de contact Paria.
La loterie aura lieu au Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument (GSE-NM) centre de visiteurs sur l'autoroute 89 sur la bordure orientale de Kanab.
L'adresse est 745 E. Route 89, le numéro de téléphone est le (435) 644-4680.
Le centre pour visiteurs est ouvert 08h00-16h30 sept jours par semaine.
Je suppose que la loterie sera encore lieu à 09h00, heure des Rocheuses.
Le centre d'accueil est ouvert sept jours par semaine, donc il est probable que la pratique de tenir à la loterie pour le samedi, dimanche et lundi de permis, le vendredi matin pendant les mois d'hiver sera abandonnée.
Je m'attends à la loterie aura lieu tous les jours toute l'année sauf les jours fériés nationaux.
Si vous prévoyez d'entrer dans le plain-pied à la loterie, après 15 Novembre 2011, vous devez appeler le GSE-NM centre d'accueil pour confirmer le dessus.
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Donc prudence pour les voyageurs qui veulent tenter leur chance après le 15/11/2011 !
D'un autre coté ca court ni les rues ni le slickrock les visiteurs hivernaux !!! 🙂
D'un autre coté ca court ni les rues ni le slickrock les visiteurs hivernaux !!! 🙂
Patrick.
C'est vrai, 😉
bien qu'avec les descriptions apocalyptiques des parcs en été,
ça peut pousser à choisir les mois d'hivers !
http://www.bogley.com/...uckskin-Gulch-Winter

http://utahpictures.com/Paria_Canyon_The_Wave.php
Ce qui me surprend un peu plus, c'est semble-t'il un changement pour toute l'année, à partir de novembre 2011... Donc par exemple pour le printemps ou l'été prochain, il faut peut-être en tenir compte dans l'élaboration des circuits, pour ne pas rater le tirage au sort sur place ! 🤪 (déjà que les chances sont minces...) 🏴☠️

http://utahpictures.com/Paria_Canyon_The_Wave.php
Ce qui me surprend un peu plus, c'est semble-t'il un changement pour toute l'année, à partir de novembre 2011... Donc par exemple pour le printemps ou l'été prochain, il faut peut-être en tenir compte dans l'élaboration des circuits, pour ne pas rater le tirage au sort sur place ! 🤪 (déjà que les chances sont minces...) 🏴☠️
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@ le Tigre,
D'un autre coté ca court ni les rues ni le slickrock les visiteurs hivernaux !!! 🙂
Y en a tout de même, probablement plus que tu ne le penses, même des forumeurs. Ci-dessous, l'expérience de Mcd8 en janvier, temps radieux🙂 et même pas de neige 😕
http://mcd8.smugmug.com/...sxq#1200059945_e5UJ6
@ Pong... merci pour cette info ! Tu as raison d'attirer l'attention sur "year round"... ça pourrait signifier que c'est définitif ! A suivre !
D'un autre coté ca court ni les rues ni le slickrock les visiteurs hivernaux !!! 🙂
Y en a tout de même, probablement plus que tu ne le penses, même des forumeurs. Ci-dessous, l'expérience de Mcd8 en janvier, temps radieux🙂 et même pas de neige 😕
http://mcd8.smugmug.com/...sxq#1200059945_e5UJ6
@ Pong... merci pour cette info ! Tu as raison d'attirer l'attention sur "year round"... ça pourrait signifier que c'est définitif ! A suivre !
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hello,
avant d'affoler tout le monde, on se renseigne 😛...
* durant les mois d'hiver (de mi novembre à mi mars), effectivement, il faut se rendre à Kanab... Bureau of Land Management Kanab Field Office 318 North 100 East Kanab, UT 84741 Phone: (435) 644-4600 Fax: (435) 644-4620 utknmail@blm.gov
During the time when Paria Contact Station is closed, the lottery also moves to Kanab Field Office of BLM. Kanab Field Office closes at weekends so the walk-in permits for Saturday, Sunday and Monday are all issued at the morning of prior Friday
* entre mi mars et mi novembre, rien ne change, RDV à la Paria Ranger Station...
If you missed the lottery or are just in the Southern Utah/Northern Arizona area, you can obtain a walk-in permit at the Paria Ranger Contact Station from mid-March to mid-November, seven days a week. The Paria Contact Station is open from 8:30 a, m, to 4:15 p.m. MST (Utah).
From mid-November to mid-March, permits for Coyote Buttes North or Coyote Buttes South can be obtained at the BLM Kanab Field Office, five days a week. The Kanab Field Office is open from 7:45 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. The Kanab Field Ooffice issues permits for Saturday, Sunday, and Monday on the previous Friday. The Kanab Field Ooffice will issue permits for holidays the last work day prior to the holiday. Walk-in permits are valid for the next-day.
source : http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/arolrsmain/paria/coyote_buttes/permits.html
Vnoa
avant d'affoler tout le monde, on se renseigne 😛...
* durant les mois d'hiver (de mi novembre à mi mars), effectivement, il faut se rendre à Kanab... Bureau of Land Management Kanab Field Office 318 North 100 East Kanab, UT 84741 Phone: (435) 644-4600 Fax: (435) 644-4620 utknmail@blm.gov
During the time when Paria Contact Station is closed, the lottery also moves to Kanab Field Office of BLM. Kanab Field Office closes at weekends so the walk-in permits for Saturday, Sunday and Monday are all issued at the morning of prior Friday
* entre mi mars et mi novembre, rien ne change, RDV à la Paria Ranger Station...
If you missed the lottery or are just in the Southern Utah/Northern Arizona area, you can obtain a walk-in permit at the Paria Ranger Contact Station from mid-March to mid-November, seven days a week. The Paria Contact Station is open from 8:30 a, m, to 4:15 p.m. MST (Utah).
From mid-November to mid-March, permits for Coyote Buttes North or Coyote Buttes South can be obtained at the BLM Kanab Field Office, five days a week. The Kanab Field Office is open from 7:45 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. The Kanab Field Ooffice issues permits for Saturday, Sunday, and Monday on the previous Friday. The Kanab Field Ooffice will issue permits for holidays the last work day prior to the holiday. Walk-in permits are valid for the next-day.
source : http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/arolrsmain/paria/coyote_buttes/permits.html
Vnoa
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Hello Val,
Ben alors.. il n'y a aucun changement... parce que ça fait longtemps qu'il faut aller à Kanab en hiver pour essayer d'avoir un permis😎
Ben alors.. il n'y a aucun changement... parce que ça fait longtemps qu'il faut aller à Kanab en hiver pour essayer d'avoir un permis😎
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hello Jacqueline,
ah mais oui je suis tout à fait d'accord ! ce n'est pas moi qui affole le peuple ! 😉
@+ Vnoa
ah mais oui je suis tout à fait d'accord ! ce n'est pas moi qui affole le peuple ! 😉
@+ Vnoa
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"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
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Reprenons...
"http://www.thewave.info/ Effective November 15, 2011 the walk-in lottery for next day permits will be held year round in Kanab. The walk-in lottery will no longer be held during the non-winter months at the Paria contact station. "
le changement ne porte pas sur les mois d'hivers, mais plutôt sur le changement à partir du 15 mars : il semblerait, d'après ce site, que pour toute l'année, la loterie se tiendrait à Kanab, et ne se tiendrait plus à la station de Paria. Donc si changement il y a lieu, nous en saurons plus le 15 mars 2012... J'ai bien essayé de trouver d'autres sources qui confirment cette info, mais sans succès... Wait and see...
"http://www.thewave.info/ Effective November 15, 2011 the walk-in lottery for next day permits will be held year round in Kanab. The walk-in lottery will no longer be held during the non-winter months at the Paria contact station. "
le changement ne porte pas sur les mois d'hivers, mais plutôt sur le changement à partir du 15 mars : il semblerait, d'après ce site, que pour toute l'année, la loterie se tiendrait à Kanab, et ne se tiendrait plus à la station de Paria. Donc si changement il y a lieu, nous en saurons plus le 15 mars 2012... J'ai bien essayé de trouver d'autres sources qui confirment cette info, mais sans succès... Wait and see...
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Ben moi, ça m'intéresse quand même car je n'avais pas fait attention qu'à partir du 15 novembre, c'était à Kanab. Or je serais là-bas justement à cette date !! Comme quoi ce post aura au moins servi à me présenter là où il faut ! 😉
The wave une seconde fois, ce serait top, et sous la neige, ce ne serait pas mal non plus !!! 😎
The wave une seconde fois, ce serait top, et sous la neige, ce ne serait pas mal non plus !!! 😎
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The wave une seconde fois, ce serait top, et sous la neige, ce ne serait pas mal non plus !!! 😎
Ouais, faut juste demander aux potes Quebecois d'envoyer un traineau et un chien pour y monter !! 😎😎
Ouais, faut juste demander aux potes Quebecois d'envoyer un traineau et un chien pour y monter !! 😎😎
Patrick.
ça y est !
Nous sommes mi-mars (passé !)Un petit up pour confirmer les changements (?) : les horaires d'été, le mode d'emploi du tirage au sort pour CBN (notamment pour le W-E), etc... si un voyageur a l'occasion de passer par Kanab pour nous rapporter des nouvelles fraîches !
Merci d'avance ! 😎
Voici ce qu'on trouve sur le site http://www.thewave.info/
I have confirmed that effective November 16, 2011 the walk in lottery will be held at the GSENM Visitor Center in Kanab year round. During the winter months the lottery will be held Monday-Friday with permits for Saturday through Monday available on Friday. During the other months [summer months] the lottery will be held seven days a week. I have updated my permit information pages to reflect this change. The official Coyote Buttes website has not yet been updated but I am confident that the above information is correct.
Voici ce qu'on trouve sur le site http://www.thewave.info/
I have confirmed that effective November 16, 2011 the walk in lottery will be held at the GSENM Visitor Center in Kanab year round. During the winter months the lottery will be held Monday-Friday with permits for Saturday through Monday available on Friday. During the other months [summer months] the lottery will be held seven days a week. I have updated my permit information pages to reflect this change. The official Coyote Buttes website has not yet been updated but I am confident that the above information is correct.
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Hello!
Et sur le site du blm il ne parle plus que de kanab... :
How do I obtain a walk-in permit? If you missed the lottery or are just in the Southern Utah/Northern Arizona area, you can obtain a walk-in permit at the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Visitor Center in Kanab, Utah. Walk-in permit procedures:Be at the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Visitor Center in Kanab, Utah (745 E. Highway 89 in Kanab Utah across from Walkers gas station and Wendy’s restaurant) before 9am Mountain Standard Time -Utah- (9am Daylight Savings Time in summer). BLM-AZ - How to Obtain a Permit - Coyote Buttes Permit Area
How do I obtain a walk-in permit? If you missed the lottery or are just in the Southern Utah/Northern Arizona area, you can obtain a walk-in permit at the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Visitor Center in Kanab, Utah. Walk-in permit procedures:Be at the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Visitor Center in Kanab, Utah (745 E. Highway 89 in Kanab Utah across from Walkers gas station and Wendy’s restaurant) before 9am Mountain Standard Time -Utah- (9am Daylight Savings Time in summer). BLM-AZ - How to Obtain a Permit - Coyote Buttes Permit Area
il ne parle plus que de kanab...
ça fait un petit pincement au coeur pour la petite station perdue au milieu de nul part, la paria Station

je me demande si elle va rester ouverte...
ça fait un petit pincement au coeur pour la petite station perdue au milieu de nul part, la paria Station

je me demande si elle va rester ouverte...
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Hé oui quel souvenir le jour ou la boule portant notre numéro est sortie en premier 🙂 ça fait bizarre de savoir que la loterie ne se fera plus là ! Et puis pfff Kanab bcp moins pratique pour programmer un séjour de plusieurs jours pour tenter le tirage au sort 😕
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Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!






