Hello à tous,
après avoir lu bcp de messages sur le forum, je voudrais savoir ce que vous pensez de cet itinéraire:
J0 - arrivée à Los Angeles à 13h05 / vol pour San Francisco vers 15h
J1 - San Francisco
J2 - San Francisco
J3 - Vol San Francisco / Las Vegas
J4 - Las Vegas > Zion (nuit à Springdale)
J5 - Zion > Bryce
J6 - Bryce Canyon > Page
J7 - Antelope Canyon - Horseshose Bend - Lake Powell / 2nde nuit à Page
J8 - Page > Monument Valley (+ Valley of the Gods et Goosenecks)
J9 - Monument Valley > Grand Canyon
J10 - Grand Canyon + tour en helico > Route 66 : Williams, Seligman (et Peach Springs si Madame tient le coup) > Kingman
J11 - Kingman > Death Valley
J12 - Death Valley > Los Angeles
J13 - Los Angeles
J14 - Vol retour
ou bien une variante par peur que ca ne colle pas :
J0 - arrivée à Los Angeles à 13h05 / vol pour San Francisco vers 15h
J1 - San Francisco
J2 - San Francisco
J3 - Vol San Francisco / Las Vegas et journée à LAS et nuit au Bellagio
J4 - Las Vegas > Zion (Scenic Drive/Randos à déterminer. Valley of Fire???)
nuit à Springdale
J5 - Zion > journée à Bryce
Je ne sais pas dans quel sens on arrive dans le parc ni ou dormir après avoir traversé par Rim Drive ???
J6 - Journée à Bryce Canyon > Page
Par ou vaut il mieux passer et voir quoi ???
J7 - Page > demi journée à Antelope Canyon - Horseshose Bend - Lake Powell pour croisière / 2nde nuit à Page
J8 - Page > Monument Valley / Valley of the Gods / Goosenecks State Park / Agathla Peak
est ce bien de dormir à Monument Valley sinon ou ???? (Mexican Hat / Kayenta )
Comment organiser les jours 7 et 8 car les trajets de ces deux jours sont bizarres sur google map
J9 - Monument Valley > Grand Canyon nuit ???
J10 - Grand Canyon + tour en helico > Route 66 : Williams, Seligman (et Peach Springs si Madame tient le coup) > Kingman
J11 - Kingman > Death Valley nuit ?????
J12 - Death Valley > Los Angeles
ou bien deuxième possibilité en passant par Sedona si ca vaut vraiment le coup mais ca complique la Death Valley
J9 - Monument Valley > Sedona et nuit à Sedona ou Flagstaff
J10 - Flagstaff > Grand Canyon nuit ???
J11 - GC > Kingman
J12 -Kingman > LAX
J13 - LAX
J14 - Vol retour
En fait la Death Valley me pose problème car on souhaite la faire mais on ne sait pas comment s'y prendre
C est un peu la galère aidez nous à finaliser notre itinéraire.... Merci d'avance
Je ne comprends pas trop le principe d'arriver à Los Angeles et de partir directement pour San Francisco?
Pourquoi ne pas prendre un vol aller pour San Francisco et un vol retour à partir de Los Angeles? Les vols multi-destination ne sont pas plus chers que les vols aller retour!
Grand Canyon: nuit Grand Canyon Village
Bryce: nuit Tropic ou dans un des deux Best Western à l'entrée du Parc
Death Valley: nuit Furnace Creek ou Stovepipe Wells
en fait nous avons deja nos billets A/R via LAX car acheté via flyingblue pour aller le 28/04 et retour le 12/05. donc on prendrait des vols internes vous en pensez quoi du road book ?
Je pense que pour Death Valley, le + simple serait de le faire entre SF et LV...
Pour te donner une idée, en 15j, on a fait LA-Grand Canyon-Monument Valley-Bryce-Zion-Vegas (2 nuits, mais si c'était à refaire ce serait 1 nuit...)-Death Valley-Sequoia Pk-Sacramento-SF-puis toute la côte jusqu'à San Diego-LA-retour
6 - Journée à Bryce Canyon > Page
Par ou vaut il mieux passer et voir quoi ???
Facile ! 😉
Si il fait beau et que la route est bien sèche (à vérifier à Bryce au Visitor center)
emprunter la Cottonwood Canyon Road ! 😎
qui est la route la plus directe,
et la plus jolie, car avec de belles choses à voir tout le long ! (voir moteur de recherche du forum)
http://g.co/maps/925u4
(option "à pied" dans google maps) 😇
POng
Sedona ne se visite pas en qq heures.
La petite ville en soi n'a rien d'extraordinaire (à moins d'être fan de "New Age"). C'est en fait le point de départ de nombreuses randos. Il faut donc y rester dormir au moins 2 nuits pour randonner (mais y a de quoi y rester 1 semaine aussi!)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
J1:De l'aéroport de LA, on est partis direct pour Flagstaff: nuit au Motel Luxury sur la route 66.
J2: Grand Canyon, puis nuit à Monument Valley (dans le van... arrivée tardive!!!)
J3: Monument Valley (nuit à Page, j'ai plus le nom du motel, mais c'est pas ce qui manque à Page!)
J4: Bryce + Zion (nuit à Vegas)
J5: Vegas (barrage, outlet, Strip) (nuit à Vegas)
J6: Death Valley par Beatty (nuit à Tulare au Motel 6)
J2: Flagstaff - Grand Canyon - Monument Valley... je ne suis pas étonnée de l'arrivée tardive à Monument Valley😛
J4: Page- Bryce - Zion - Las Vegas 🏴☠️
Comme tu as dit... c'est sportif!
Et quand as-tu pu visiter qq ch?
Bref, ce n'est pas un modèle à conseiller ....
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
est ce que les billets des vols intérieurs sont également achetés ? 😐
c'est bien vol direct pour aller à LA ?
dans ce cas, ça va être chaud en atterrissant à 13h05 de prendre le vol de 15h pour SFO ! 😮
J0 - arrivée à Los Angeles à 13h05 / vol pour San Francisco
J1 - San Francisco
J2 - San Francisco
J3 - Vol San Francisco --> Phoenix
J4 - Phoenix - Grand Canyon
J5 - Grand Canyon - Monument Valley
J6 - Monument Valley - Valley of the Gods - Goosenecks SP- Page
J7 - Page (Antelope Canyon - Horseshose Bend - Lake Powell)
J8 - Page - Bryce Canyon (via la Cottonwood Canyon Road si empruntable !)
J9 - Bryce Canyon - Zion
J10 - Zion - Las Vegas
J11 - Las Vegas - Death Valley
J12 - Death Valley - Los Angeles
J13 - Los Angeles
J14 - Vol retour
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Donc si je comprends bien Paris - LAX c'est par Air France. Puis tu as acheté séparément le LAX - SFO? Ou c'est un même billet?
La réponse est très importante 😛 Parce que si ce n'est pas un même billet mais deux billets achetés séparément si tu loupes ton vol interne(passage de l'immigration etc...), c'est pour ta pomme 😉
Ce n'est pas un conseil, juste une réponse...
Et puis on apprend par l'expérience, non?!😛
Toujours est-il que c'est un de mes + beaux voyages, je ne suis pas prête d'oublier ce que j'ai vu et vécu, même si parfois le temps a manqué pour en profiter plus pleinement!
Au moins, ça me donne une bonne excuse pour y retourner!😉
" Ce n'est pas un conseil, juste une réponse... "
Ben... disons que vu ta 1ère intervention qui citait ton itinéraire en exemple, on pouvait croire qu'il s'agissait d'un conseil
" Et puis on apprend par l'expérience, non?!😛 "
Euh... non... autant que possible j'essaie d'éviter les mauvaises expériences personnelles😛... je préfère apprendre en profitant de l'expérience des autres... Et en ce qui concerne les voyages, il y a tellement de bons baroudeurs de l'ouest américain qui ont pris plaisir à partager leurs connaissances qu'il est dommage de s'en priver (à commencer par les excellents auteurs de l'excellent site ouestusa.fr)
Mais une chose est sure: itinéraire "speed" ou pas, un voyage ds l'ouest américain en appelle toujours un autre😉... y a tant de merveilles à y découvrir...
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Bref, le but de ce forum, c'est de partager nos expériences et d'apprendre, on est bien d'accord!
Et je souhaite à Boris15 de vivre, comme nous tous, une magnifique et inoubliable expérience dans l'Ouest américain, quelque soit l'itinéraire qu'il choisira!😉
Voici mon itineraire, final j'espere
J0 - arrivée à Los Angeles à 13h05 / vol pour San Francisco vers 15h
J1 - San Francisco
J2 - San Francisco
J3 - Vol San Francisco / Phoenix
J4 - Phoenix > Sedona
J5 - Sedona > Grand Canyon
J6 - Grand Canyon > Monument Valley
J7 - Monument Valley > Page
J8 - Page : Antelope Canyon - Horseshose Bend - Lake Powell / 2nde nuit à Page
J9 - Page > Bryce Canyon
J10 - Bryce Canyon > Zion
J11 - Zion > Las Vegas
J12 - Las Vegas > Los Angeles
J13 - Los Angeles
J14 - Vol retour
Si on a le temps on essaiera de se faire Death Valley. Vous en pensez quoi ?
Tu n'as toujours pas répondu à ma question... Ton vol de 15h en J1 pour San Francisco c'est un vol que tu as acheté en même temps que ton vol Paris - LA? Ou tu l'as acheté séparément?
Je me permets de poser la question car ça a une importance sur la faisabilité 😛 (sans risque de ton trip)
1h55 à LAX, si vol sans escale, c'est court. Car tu as l'immigration à passer, les bagages à récupérer, puis la douane. L'été dernier on a mis environ 1h30 pour faire tout ça (quel monde! 😠) à l'arrivée du vol d'Air France de 13h (qui était arrivée lui-même en retard de 45 minutes à cause d'une grève des agents de nettoyage à CDG)
Puis tu dois ensuite te ré-enregistrer pour ton nouveau vol, déposer tes bagages, aller à ta nouvelle porte d'embarquement...
Cela va être très juste! Si tu rates ton vol, tu ne seras pas mis automatiquement sur l'un des vols suivants puisque les billets n'ont pas été acheté ensemble. Tu devras toi-même acheté un nouveau vol quand il y aura de la place!
Je ne veux pas te porter la poisse, mais c'est vraiment très risqué. LAX est un très grand aéroport, pas le mieux organisé des USA 😕 et avec énormément de monde!
Moi je dormirais à l'aéroport et je partirais en J1. Ou alors en J0 mais beaucoup plus tard!
Pour le reste, ça va mais c'est speed. Vu ce que tu prévois (seulement), ce n'est pas à Page que j'aurais passé 2 nuits en priorité.
Tu ferais comment car je suis preneur des bonnes idees transmises par les connaisseurs ?
Bah puis que les vols internationaux sont déjà réservés (sinon j'aurai pris un vol multi-destination et pas un AR), je prendrais un vol plus tard à LAX, quitte à poireauter dans l'aéroport. 1h55 c'est vraiment trop juste! Il y a quand même de grandes chances que ça ne passe pas.
Soit faire autre chose à Page car ce que tu as prévu ne t'occupera pas un jour et demi.
Voir ici: http://www.ouestusa.fr/arizona-acceuil.htm
Va à sites autour de Page ou encore ce qu'il y a dans l'environnement proche: Cathedral Wash, Lee's Ferry etc...
Sinon, une deuxième nuit à Bryce histoire de faire une bonne randonnée par Peek A Boo Loop
Si vous préférez les villes, c'est un peu court pour Vegas pour l'instant (1 nuit); j'en rajouterais une seconde.
Tu ferais comment car je suis preneur des bonnes idees transmises par les connaisseurs ?
Ou alors vous faites votre circuit à l'envers, c'est-à-dire en commençant pas Los Angeles.
Comme ça si votre vol est en retard ou que les formalités d'immigration prennent pas mal de temps vous allez ensuite directement à l'hôtel et serez en pleine forme pour commencer vos visites de bonne heure le lendemain. Si par contre vous sortez de l'aéroport rapidement (ça arrive aussi mais c'est assez rare... personnellement mes temps de sortie de LAX varient entre 45 minutes et... 3h15) ça vous laisse le temps de commencer quelques visites à Los Angeles en fin de journée (Hollywood Boulevard, Venice Beach ou Beverly Hills se prêtent bien à des flâneries de fin d'après-midi / début de soirée.)
Cela va être très juste! Si tu rates ton vol, tu ne seras pas mis automatiquement sur l'un des vols suivants puisque les billets n'ont pas été acheté ensemble. Tu devras toi-même acheté un nouveau vol quand il y aura de la place!
Justement, je me posais la question : 2 billets, mais avec la même compagnie. 😐
Celle-ci peut-elle être tenue pour responsable en cas de retard du premier vol et du "ratage" du deuxième ?
2 billets même compagnie? Je donne ma langue au chat mais à priori je dirais que comme ce n'est pas un même billet, ça sera à toi de te débrouiller, mais je n'en suis pas sûr!
Bonjour
Death Valley >>> Los angeles
Calico Ghost town pres Barstow (10 miles au nord) est un ville conservee du 19eme siecle , avec tous ses charmes de dette epoque . visite 2 h mais entree payante , je crois 6 dollar/pers ( voir http://www.sunsetbld.com/calico-ghost-town.php)
a prevoir si depart de bonne tres bonne heure.
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!