Frais d'abandon de véhicule entre Las Vegas et la Californie?
by Chellmi
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
j'ai cru comprendre que certains loueurs de véhicule ne comptaient pas les frais d'abandon de véhicule (location) entre las vegas et la californie (retour sur San Fransico)
est-ce que vous auriez des renseignements à me communiquer sur ce sujet ?
merci
cordialement
Michèle
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/ Ethopie 2020-Birmanie 2017-New York 2015-Sicile 2015-Ouest américain 2015/16/17/18/19 - Madrid/Barcelone - Cinq Terre 2017-Prague 2018-Venise 2019
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ 2014 : périple de 9 mois Cambodge, Laos, Vietnam et ouest Américain
Bonsoir
Pas de frais d'abandon chez les grands loueurs comme Avis Alamo ou Hertz
Pour les plus petits je peux pas répondre, j'ai pas utilisé leur service
je te remercie
cordialement
Michèle
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/ Ethopie 2020-Birmanie 2017-New York 2015-Sicile 2015-Ouest américain 2015/16/17/18/19 - Madrid/Barcelone - Cinq Terre 2017-Prague 2018-Venise 2019
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ 2014 : périple de 9 mois Cambodge, Laos, Vietnam et ouest Américain
je comfirme pas de frais d'abandon entre S F O et vegas . l'an dernier loueur autoescape via dollar.
"ceux qui ne savent pas qu'ils marchent dans l'obscurité ne verront jamais la lumière"
Bonjour,
Il y a quelques mois, j'ai appelé autosecape pour savoir à combien se montaient les frais d'abandon pour une voiture louée à San Francisco et rendue à las Vegas. Au départ, je comptais prendre une offre avec Alamo mais la personne au téléphone m'a dit que depuis peu, il y avait des frais d'abandon avec eux et que par contre, il n'y en avait pas avec National.
Cela m'a paru surprenant, je vais pouvoir vérifier dans un mois si elle ne m'a pas raconté de salades !
Mes carnets de voyage :http://deparlemonde.jimdo.com/
de toutes façons il n'y as pas de frais d'abandon entre la californie et nevada et californie - arizona.
"ceux qui ne savent pas qu'ils marchent dans l'obscurité ne verront jamais la lumière"
Oui voilà. Au depart de la Californie, il n'y a pas de frais d'abandon pour Nevada, Arizona, Utah !
Ce n'est par contre pas tout le temps vrai dans le sens inverse.
Pour quelles raisons dans un sens plus que dans l'autre ? Et bien c'est grâce à Governator Schwarzy qui a imposé ça aux loueurs en Californie pour des histoires de sécurité, et de ne pas imposer un retour obligatoire souvent synonyme de longues heures de route avec la fatigue causant des accidents.
merci à tous de ces renseignements
Michèle
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/ Ethopie 2020-Birmanie 2017-New York 2015-Sicile 2015-Ouest américain 2015/16/17/18/19 - Madrid/Barcelone - Cinq Terre 2017-Prague 2018-Venise 2019
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ 2014 : périple de 9 mois Cambodge, Laos, Vietnam et ouest Américain
pour avoir tester, pas de frais non plus de Nevada vers Arizona et d'Arizona vers Californie.
Par contre, c'est vrai pour les loc de voitures plutot "standard", les loc de vehicules moins standard (les minibus par exemple) c'est rarement vrai. il faut la ramener a l'aéroport ou on l'a pris.
Par contre, c'est vrai pour les loc de voitures plutot "standard", les loc de vehicules moins standard (les minibus par exemple) c'est rarement vrai. il faut la ramener a l'aéroport ou on l'a pris.
Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage.
bonjour
Au depart de la Californie, il n'y a pas de frais d'abandon pour Nevada, Arizona, Utah ! Ce n'est par contre pas tout le temps vrai dans le sens inverse.
Non, ce serait trop simple. Chaque contrat est particulier, et les différents grands loueurs en ont des centaines de différents, disponibles. Il m'est même arrivé une fois d'avoir des frais de Californie à Californie avec AVIS (auto prise à San Jose Airport, retournée à LAX. Mais le prix de location était dérisoire, via un coupon découpé sur USA To Day). Ce que l'on peut dire, c'est que les contrats que nous obtenons en réservant d'Europe (via xxxxxxxxx.fr, ou via un revendeur Européen type Autoescape, ou avec un code type compagnie aérienne, ou ...) sont le plus souvent adaptés à nos besoins, que ce soit pour les assurances incluses, ou pour les oneway inclus. Mais DANS TOUS LES CAS, lors de la réservation, il faut regarder en détail ce qui est inclus ou non (assurances, oneway, conducteur additionnel, plein d'essence, ...). C'est en général bien détaillé sur les contrats réservés aux Européens, mais il n'y a rien de systématique.
Les Oneway CA-AZ-NV ne sont pas toujours inclus (ils le sont le plus souvent). Il faut vérifier cas par cas. Mais d'un autre coté, on trouve parfois sur le marché des contrats (National ou Alamo en général), incluant non seulement les 3 états précédents, mais aussi Oregon et Washington ou autre, ce qui peut être très intéressant.
Donc rien d'absolument systématique. Il est indispensable de toujours vérifier en détail à la réservation, puis lors de la rédaction du contrat à la prise de la voiture chez le loueur (c'est ce seul document qui fait foi), en fonction de ses besoins réels.
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Au depart de la Californie, il n'y a pas de frais d'abandon pour Nevada, Arizona, Utah ! Ce n'est par contre pas tout le temps vrai dans le sens inverse.
Non, ce serait trop simple. Chaque contrat est particulier, et les différents grands loueurs en ont des centaines de différents, disponibles. Il m'est même arrivé une fois d'avoir des frais de Californie à Californie avec AVIS (auto prise à San Jose Airport, retournée à LAX. Mais le prix de location était dérisoire, via un coupon découpé sur USA To Day). Ce que l'on peut dire, c'est que les contrats que nous obtenons en réservant d'Europe (via xxxxxxxxx.fr, ou via un revendeur Européen type Autoescape, ou avec un code type compagnie aérienne, ou ...) sont le plus souvent adaptés à nos besoins, que ce soit pour les assurances incluses, ou pour les oneway inclus. Mais DANS TOUS LES CAS, lors de la réservation, il faut regarder en détail ce qui est inclus ou non (assurances, oneway, conducteur additionnel, plein d'essence, ...). C'est en général bien détaillé sur les contrats réservés aux Européens, mais il n'y a rien de systématique.
Les Oneway CA-AZ-NV ne sont pas toujours inclus (ils le sont le plus souvent). Il faut vérifier cas par cas. Mais d'un autre coté, on trouve parfois sur le marché des contrats (National ou Alamo en général), incluant non seulement les 3 états précédents, mais aussi Oregon et Washington ou autre, ce qui peut être très intéressant.
Donc rien d'absolument systématique. Il est indispensable de toujours vérifier en détail à la réservation, puis lors de la rédaction du contrat à la prise de la voiture chez le loueur (c'est ce seul document qui fait foi), en fonction de ses besoins réels.
3.14
De l'Alaska à l'Arizona : contrastes. Voir https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4396533#4396533
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Bonjour Chellmi,
Au final avez vous eu à payer des frais d abandon ? Je me pose les mêmes questions pour une prise en charge a sfo et un retour à las vegas.
Jai trouvé une offre intéressante sur bsp auto avec le loueur Dollar. Bsp précise qu il n y a pas de frais d abandon mais ne précise pas si uniquement pour un retour en Californie.
Merci à vous
Au final avez vous eu à payer des frais d abandon ? Je me pose les mêmes questions pour une prise en charge a sfo et un retour à las vegas.
Jai trouvé une offre intéressante sur bsp auto avec le loueur Dollar. Bsp précise qu il n y a pas de frais d abandon mais ne précise pas si uniquement pour un retour en Californie.
Merci à vous
HEU !!! Le poste date de 2013 😛
Depuis il y a eu bien des changements avec les frais d'abandon
Depuis il y a eu bien des changements avec les frais d'abandon
* 04.2016 - San Francisco (semi marathon) / New York / Washington
* 05.2015 - Chicago + Sud Ouest US -
* 08.2013 - Voyage en famille - Principaux Parcs West US.
* 06.1994 - http://georgesroy.perso.worldonline.fr/usa/
* 12.1986 - 1er Voyage USA (CA / AZ / Nevada / Colorado / FL)
Bonjour Chellmi,
Au final avez vous eu à payer des frais d abandon ? Je me pose les mêmes questions pour une prise en charge a sfo et un retour à las vegas.
Jai trouvé une offre intéressante sur bsp auto avec le loueur Dollar. Bsp précise qu il n y a pas de frais d abandon mais ne précise pas si uniquement pour un retour en Californie.
Merci à vous
Si tu fais une simulation, le prix final devrait l'indiquer car on demande toujours où à lieu la prise du véhicule et ou il sera remis.
Concernant Chimili, la moindre des chose aurait été un retour🤪 Il a eu le temps depuis 2013..... Il est toujours sur le forum
Au final avez vous eu à payer des frais d abandon ? Je me pose les mêmes questions pour une prise en charge a sfo et un retour à las vegas.
Jai trouvé une offre intéressante sur bsp auto avec le loueur Dollar. Bsp précise qu il n y a pas de frais d abandon mais ne précise pas si uniquement pour un retour en Californie.
Merci à vous
Si tu fais une simulation, le prix final devrait l'indiquer car on demande toujours où à lieu la prise du véhicule et ou il sera remis.
Concernant Chimili, la moindre des chose aurait été un retour🤪 Il a eu le temps depuis 2013..... Il est toujours sur le forum
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Merci pour votre retour,
j'ai bien indiqué le lieux de départ et le lieux de retour et dans les prestations incluses, il est indiqué " Les frais de restitution du véhicule dans une autre agence".
Cela ne précise pas si cela concerne la restitution dans un autre état… (suis-je un peu trop parano? 😛)
j'ai bien indiqué le lieux de départ et le lieux de retour et dans les prestations incluses, il est indiqué " Les frais de restitution du véhicule dans une autre agence".
Cela ne précise pas si cela concerne la restitution dans un autre état… (suis-je un peu trop parano? 😛)
Je le crois.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Si vous n'avez que ça a faire de vérifier si les gens on fait des retours ...
Michèle
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/ Ethopie 2020-Birmanie 2017-New York 2015-Sicile 2015-Ouest américain 2015/16/17/18/19 - Madrid/Barcelone - Cinq Terre 2017-Prague 2018-Venise 2019
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ 2014 : périple de 9 mois Cambodge, Laos, Vietnam et ouest Américain
Bonjour Caro,
Je n'ai pas les réponses sur 2019.
Nous y allons régulièrement mais je ne fais plus d'abandon.
Michèle
Michèle
http://mjm-nosvoyages.blogspot.fr/ Ethopie 2020-Birmanie 2017-New York 2015-Sicile 2015-Ouest américain 2015/16/17/18/19 - Madrid/Barcelone - Cinq Terre 2017-Prague 2018-Venise 2019
http://surlarouteasiatique.blogspot.fr/ 2014 : périple de 9 mois Cambodge, Laos, Vietnam et ouest Américain
Si vous n'avez que ça a faire de vérifier si les gens on fait des retours ...
C'est un argument très solide pour justifier ton absence.😏 N'empêche que l'intervention de Ourson ou / et la mienne on eu le résultat escompté.
Rendre la pareil au gens qui on essayé de t'aider, une simple politesse et ça ne semble loin de te préoccuper. Au lieu d'écrire une réponse insignifiante, ce n'est pas été plus long d'écrire un retour🤪
C'est un argument très solide pour justifier ton absence.😏 N'empêche que l'intervention de Ourson ou / et la mienne on eu le résultat escompté.
Rendre la pareil au gens qui on essayé de t'aider, une simple politesse et ça ne semble loin de te préoccuper. Au lieu d'écrire une réponse insignifiante, ce n'est pas été plus long d'écrire un retour🤪
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
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Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!