merci d'avance!
Ghardaïa en Algérie: vol au départ de Paris et visites
by Gayleriste
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Finalement je pense aller à Ghardaïa, sur trois ou quatre jours. Je me suis renseigné des vols auprès d'Airalgérie, mais les brochures ne donnent aucun tarif. Quelqu'un les connaitrait-il???? (help). De plus, j'aimerais que les plus gentils d'entre vous me donnent des conseils de trucs sympas à visiter sur trois jours autour de Ghardaïa, avec peut être un tour de chameau histoire de coller à l'image d'Epinal.
merci d'avance!
merci d'avance!
Bonjour à toi !
Je rentre d'un séjour de 1mois en Algérie, et quasiment 20jours à Gardaia. Voyage et lieu extra-ordinaire. Je te conseille de loger chez l'habitant et d'éviter les hôtels. Il y a la visite guidé de la ville à faire. Tu peux leur demander de t'enmener jusqu'à la palmeraie et t'expliquer le système de partage d'eau. Je t'invite aussi à aller à Beni Isguen, idem faire la visite guider, assister au marché à la crié en fin d'après-midi. N'hésite pas si tu as des questions, où besoin de contact, je peux te donner les coordonnées de mon hébergeur (à moins que Tassili ne l'ai déjà fait !lol) Bon voyage à toi !
Je rentre d'un séjour de 1mois en Algérie, et quasiment 20jours à Gardaia. Voyage et lieu extra-ordinaire. Je te conseille de loger chez l'habitant et d'éviter les hôtels. Il y a la visite guidé de la ville à faire. Tu peux leur demander de t'enmener jusqu'à la palmeraie et t'expliquer le système de partage d'eau. Je t'invite aussi à aller à Beni Isguen, idem faire la visite guider, assister au marché à la crié en fin d'après-midi. N'hésite pas si tu as des questions, où besoin de contact, je peux te donner les coordonnées de mon hébergeur (à moins que Tassili ne l'ai déjà fait !lol) Bon voyage à toi !
vegetal
Bonjour !
¨Pour les vols Paris/Alger, tu peux obtenir des tarifs intéressants en passant par Internet mais uniquement sur 1 semaine (min pour tarif promo)...
Ensuite il faut prendre la correspondance pour Ghardaia (env. 110 € aller/retour Alger/Ghardaia/Alger). Il faut compter avec des retards ou d'annulation de vols (pb technique/coordination, pb météo (orage, vent de sable, ...), etc....).
Sur Ghardaia, un séjour de 3 à 4 jours suffit.... la vallée du M'Zab est très vaste et comporte plusieurs villes (Ghardaia, El Ateuf, Beni Isguen, Berriane, ...). Il y a des palmeraies avec systèmes de pârtage des eaux, barrages, puits traditionnels, .... Les marchés traditionnels... Musées...
Faire un tour de chameau à Ghardaia, that's the question....!!! A vrai dire, à part pour les mariages traditionnels chaambi, les visiteurs ne viennent pas à Ghardaia pour faire un tour de chameau... On n'est pas dans un contexte "tourisme" avec le chameau qui attend derrière l'hôtel.
Voila qques infos envoyés en direct de la Wilaya de Ghardaia !
Lili
Sur Ghardaia, un séjour de 3 à 4 jours suffit.... la vallée du M'Zab est très vaste et comporte plusieurs villes (Ghardaia, El Ateuf, Beni Isguen, Berriane, ...). Il y a des palmeraies avec systèmes de pârtage des eaux, barrages, puits traditionnels, .... Les marchés traditionnels... Musées...
Faire un tour de chameau à Ghardaia, that's the question....!!! A vrai dire, à part pour les mariages traditionnels chaambi, les visiteurs ne viennent pas à Ghardaia pour faire un tour de chameau... On n'est pas dans un contexte "tourisme" avec le chameau qui attend derrière l'hôtel.
Voila qques infos envoyés en direct de la Wilaya de Ghardaia !
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
si tu penses que loger chez l'habitant est possible, ça serait avec plaisir. S'agit-il de "chambres d'hôtes"? Quel est le prix? Dis moi tout!!!!
Bonjour,
Pour coller à l'image d'épinal et faire ta ballade à dos de chameau ce n'est pas - comme te la écrit Tassili - à Ghardaïa que tu pourras trouver ça. Aussi, je te conseille de passer une journée à El Goléa (El Meniaa). La tu es certain de trouver ce que tu veux. Et ce n'est qu'à 270 kms de Ghardaïa. En France ça peut paraître beaucoup mais pas dans cette région du Sahara. Bienvenue en Algérie. Salutations.
Pour coller à l'image d'épinal et faire ta ballade à dos de chameau ce n'est pas - comme te la écrit Tassili - à Ghardaïa que tu pourras trouver ça. Aussi, je te conseille de passer une journée à El Goléa (El Meniaa). La tu es certain de trouver ce que tu veux. Et ce n'est qu'à 270 kms de Ghardaïa. En France ça peut paraître beaucoup mais pas dans cette région du Sahara. Bienvenue en Algérie. Salutations.
Les prix en chambres chez l'habitant varient selon le confort offert mais en général cela se passe entre 1000 et 1200 DA/pers (nuit + p.dej). En chambre d'hôtes (dans des résidences d'hôtes assez pratiquées dans les palmeraies de Ghardaia, Beni Isguen, El Golea, ...) cela tourne autout de 1500 à 2000 DA/personne...
Végétal connait une bonne adresse et c'est quelqu'un de formidable !
A bientôt !
Lili
Végétal connait une bonne adresse et c'est quelqu'un de formidable !
A bientôt !
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Bonjour Tassili,
j'ai lu avec attention les commentaires sur Gardaïa, que veux tu dire lorsque tu parles de: A vrai dire, à part pour les mariages traditionnels chaambi...on peut assister à un mariage?
Je dois me rendre en algérie, je veux faire le nord et le sud... à l'automne, que suggeres tu comme saison? septembre octobre..merci Anne 🙂
Bonjour
Quand j'ai parlé de chameaux pour les mariages traditionnels chez les Chaamba, c'est que la mariée est transportée dans une petite "cabane" à dos de chameau (la gahfa).
Assister à un mariage c'est possible quand il y en a mais aussi il faut tomber dans un mariage vraiment traditionnel aussi !
Pour faire le sud (Ghardaia, El golea) il vaut mieux attendre la fin du Ramadhan qui tombera cette année vers le 15 ou 16/10.... en plus il fera bon et plus très chaud !
A bientôt !
Lili
Quand j'ai parlé de chameaux pour les mariages traditionnels chez les Chaamba, c'est que la mariée est transportée dans une petite "cabane" à dos de chameau (la gahfa).
Assister à un mariage c'est possible quand il y en a mais aussi il faut tomber dans un mariage vraiment traditionnel aussi !
Pour faire le sud (Ghardaia, El golea) il vaut mieux attendre la fin du Ramadhan qui tombera cette année vers le 15 ou 16/10.... en plus il fera bon et plus très chaud !
A bientôt !
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Bonjour,
Paris Ghardaïa le moins cher et le plus fiable (probablement) se trouve chez Expédia.Fr prix en été 417.28€ TTC sauf assurances, visas, etc.
C'est pas de la pub!!! je ne suis ni employé de-, ni actionnaire d'Expédia... et c'est beaucoup moins cher que chez Air France ou Air Algérie en direct...
A Ghardaïa, les hôtels sont (très!) loin d'être terribles, le logement chez l'habitant est donc vivement conseillé, soit en ville, soit dans la palmeraie. L'accueil dans le Sud est toujours excellent, tradition oblige... et sympathie renforce!
Tour en chameau: forget it! C'est pas Hammamet en Tunisie, ici!
En plus les Mozabites ne sont pas des Touaregs, ce sont des commerçants citadins!
A+
jadam45
Bonjour,
Je viens de regarder Expedia et j'ai tapé plusieurs dates sur juillet et aout pour avoir les détails mais je ne trouve que des vols qui font des escales à Alger ou des vols avec 2 escales (marseille + alger) sur des vols Air France et Air Algérie. Bien sûr avec ces escales les trajets sont très longs (10 à 12h !). Dans ces conditions il vaut mieux le faire en avion jusqu'à Alger puis prendre le bus jusqu'à Ghardaia, c'est aussi long et ça coûte beaucoup moins cher (6, 50€ pour 600 km) et au moins on voit du paysage !
Peux-tu nous dire où tu as trouvé les offres dont tu parles ?
Voici un exemple de ce que j'ai trouvé : 09:35 Départ Paris (CDG) Arrivée Ghardaïa (GHA) 19:45 mer. 25 juil. Durée : 11 h 10 min Air France 1954 Air Algerie 6202 Correspondance à Alger (ALG) 08:00 Départ Ghardaïa (GHA)Arrivée Paris (CDG) 22:30 ven. 10 août Durée : 13 h 30 min Air Algerie 6201 Air France 2355 Correspondance à Alger (ALG)
ou
08:35 Départ Paris (ORY) Arrivée Ghardaïa (GHA) 19:45 mer. 25 juil. Durée : 12 h 10 min Air France 6010 / 3542 Air Algerie 6202 Correspondance à Marseille (MRS), Alger (ALG) 08:00 Départ Ghardaïa (GHA) Arrivée Paris (CDG) 15:40 ven. 10 août Durée : 6 h 40 min Air Algerie 6201 Air France 1955 Correspondance à Alger (ALG)
Je viens de regarder Expedia et j'ai tapé plusieurs dates sur juillet et aout pour avoir les détails mais je ne trouve que des vols qui font des escales à Alger ou des vols avec 2 escales (marseille + alger) sur des vols Air France et Air Algérie. Bien sûr avec ces escales les trajets sont très longs (10 à 12h !). Dans ces conditions il vaut mieux le faire en avion jusqu'à Alger puis prendre le bus jusqu'à Ghardaia, c'est aussi long et ça coûte beaucoup moins cher (6, 50€ pour 600 km) et au moins on voit du paysage !
Peux-tu nous dire où tu as trouvé les offres dont tu parles ?
Voici un exemple de ce que j'ai trouvé : 09:35 Départ Paris (CDG) Arrivée Ghardaïa (GHA) 19:45 mer. 25 juil. Durée : 11 h 10 min Air France 1954 Air Algerie 6202 Correspondance à Alger (ALG) 08:00 Départ Ghardaïa (GHA)Arrivée Paris (CDG) 22:30 ven. 10 août Durée : 13 h 30 min Air Algerie 6201 Air France 2355 Correspondance à Alger (ALG)
ou
08:35 Départ Paris (ORY) Arrivée Ghardaïa (GHA) 19:45 mer. 25 juil. Durée : 12 h 10 min Air France 6010 / 3542 Air Algerie 6202 Correspondance à Marseille (MRS), Alger (ALG) 08:00 Départ Ghardaïa (GHA) Arrivée Paris (CDG) 15:40 ven. 10 août Durée : 6 h 40 min Air Algerie 6201 Air France 1955 Correspondance à Alger (ALG)
Bonjour,
Exact il n'y a pas de vol direct sur Ghardaia depuis l'étranger. Seule solution toujours via Alger.
Pour les prix voir le site Internet d'Expedia. Les autres moteurs de recherche (dont celui accessible par ce site-ci) ne sont pas compétitifs car ils sont tous dans les 800€ et plus.
Le bus depuis Alger, oui pourquoi pas mais que faire des barbus le long du chemin après Blida? Les gorges de la Chiffa (et plus loin) ne sont toujours pas un endroit totalement "safe" (ça dépend du jour et de l'heure...). Ils ont des Kalanikofs mais pas de Stingers, alors mieux vaut l'avion, surtout à 417, 28€ depuis Paris.
Du charme en moins, de la sécurité en plus... Par contre le Sud est safe sur les grands axes routiers et l'accueil superbe!
A+
PS: il n'y a plus depuis longtemps en bus entre Alger et Fort-Lamy!
jadam45
J'ai fait seule Alger-El Golea en bus au mois de mars(900km) et je n'ai eu aucun souci
A part un barrage ( avec contrôle de papiers) à 10 km de El Golea.
Je suis partie d'Alger à 14h, un samedi et suis arrivée à El Golea à 2h30 du matin suivant.
Les payages valent la peine d'être vus
Et puis 5 heures de bus passent vite si tu t'intéresses à ce qui t'entoure, que ce soit les gens ou les paysages.
C'est çà aussi le voyage.
Survoler des lieux magiques comme ceux là n'a pas beaucoup de sens.😉
Mais ce n'est que mon avis😛
"Marche en avant de toi-même,
comme le premier dromadaire de la caravane".
Comme Tilleli j'ai fait seule Alger-Ghardaia en bus il y a un mois sans aucun problème.
J'avais fait le même trajet en avion il y a un an et je ne regrette vraiment pas de l'avoir fait en bus.
Salut Jacques !
D'abord je voudrais savoir quand tu es passé pour la denrière fois dans les gorges de la Chiffa et au sud de Blida ? Je vis à El Golea et il y a 4 jours, je suis partie en voiture à 20 H pour arriver vers 7 H aux bords d'Alger... On s'est arrêté dans la Chiffa vers 5 H du matin pour se reposer un peu, mais pas facile avec le nombre de véhicules qui circulent déjà... d'ailleurs même en pleine nuit cela roule !!!
Lili
D'abord je voudrais savoir quand tu es passé pour la denrière fois dans les gorges de la Chiffa et au sud de Blida ? Je vis à El Golea et il y a 4 jours, je suis partie en voiture à 20 H pour arriver vers 7 H aux bords d'Alger... On s'est arrêté dans la Chiffa vers 5 H du matin pour se reposer un peu, mais pas facile avec le nombre de véhicules qui circulent déjà... d'ailleurs même en pleine nuit cela roule !!!
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!




