Recherche hôtel à Sétif en Algérie après refus de louer
by Celouna
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je suis une artiste française et je pars à Sétif en Algérie du 22 octobre au 7 novembre pour réaliser un projet photo sur les massacres de Sétif en 1945. Je connais déjà un peu l'Algérie.
Après avoir longuement cherché sur internet j'ai trouvé un hôtel qui semblait correct et pas trop cher (1200DA la nuit). Un voyageur (masculin) sur un forum le conseillait d'ailleurs.
J'ai alors appelé pour réserver et avoir une confirmation par fax pour le visa. J'ai téléphoné plusieurs fois et ai eu des employés qui m'ont dit qu'il y avait de la place aux dates que je voulais mais qu'il fallait appeler le patron pour la confirmation et le fax. J'ai fini par l'avoir ce matin et il m'a dit que l'hôtel était complet et qu'il ne pouvait pas prendre ma réservation 😠
Je suis sûre que c'est faux puisque toutes les autres personnes ne m'ont jamais dit que c'était complet et sur une aussi longue période ça semble bizarre.
J'ai dit que je trouvais ça étrange et j'ai voulu changer mes dates de réservation et il m'a dit que c'était inutile parce que c'était toujours complet à cause des hommes d'affaire : les hommes d'affaire qui viennent dans un hôtel à 1200DA alors qu'il y a des hôtels 3 étoiles à Sétif !!
Très vite il a arrêté de parler en français. Je ne comprenais pas suffisamment ce qu'il disait pour pouvoir discuter. A la fin je lui ai demandé s'il pouvait me donner des noms d'autres hôtels et il m'a dit non. Il m'a raccroché au nez.
Je pense que le problème c'est qu'il ne veut pas louer une chambre à une femme seule. un employé m'avait d'ailleurs demandé si je voyageais seule.
Ce qui est bizarre c'est que je n'ai jamais eu ce problème quand je suis allée à Annaba il y a quelques années, peut-être que je suis simplement tombée sur quelqu'un de pas correct.
Là maintenant je suis un peu coincée puisque je n'ai plus d'hôtel alors qu'ils m'avaient dit oui il y a 10 jours. J'aimerais avoir votre avis pour savoir si vous pensez qu'il est difficile de trouver une chambre pour une femme seule à Sétif vu que la date approche et je n'ai pas encore mon visa.
Avez-vous des noms d'hôtels corrects autres que les hôtels très chers qui circulent sur le net : budget entre 1000 et 1500 Da, ça doit être possible quand même. 😕
Bonjour
Je pense bien que tu est tomber sur un Hôtel Populaire ( Bas Gamme), qui veux pas perdre son temps pour te faxer la réservation, car en réalité les hôtels en Algérie, recevoient et envois des centaines de réservations par jour pour les étrangers, mais il ne vois que rarement ces étrangers, car ils font en général le plein par les Locaux…..
Une Femme seule, a le droit de réserver et d occuper une chambre tte a fait comme un Homme seul il y a pas de différence, mais un couple dois fournir le livret de Famille ou preuve de Mariage pour une chambre qu il veulent occuper a deux. Dans c pas a cause de ce la que ton Interlocuteur a crocher le tel au nez ……
Je peux te fournir les coordonnées de Qqs Hôtels a Sétif , et aussi dans sa région.
Je pense q' Il te font la réservation sans aucun problème, mais les prix en général dépassent les 1500 DA pour la nuitée….mais des Hôtels correct et nickel.
Bonne Journée……………………………………Tamurtanagh
Je pense bien que tu est tomber sur un Hôtel Populaire ( Bas Gamme), qui veux pas perdre son temps pour te faxer la réservation, car en réalité les hôtels en Algérie, recevoient et envois des centaines de réservations par jour pour les étrangers, mais il ne vois que rarement ces étrangers, car ils font en général le plein par les Locaux…..
Une Femme seule, a le droit de réserver et d occuper une chambre tte a fait comme un Homme seul il y a pas de différence, mais un couple dois fournir le livret de Famille ou preuve de Mariage pour une chambre qu il veulent occuper a deux. Dans c pas a cause de ce la que ton Interlocuteur a crocher le tel au nez ……
Je peux te fournir les coordonnées de Qqs Hôtels a Sétif , et aussi dans sa région.
Je pense q' Il te font la réservation sans aucun problème, mais les prix en général dépassent les 1500 DA pour la nuitée….mais des Hôtels correct et nickel.
Bonne Journée……………………………………Tamurtanagh
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Bonsoir,
Voici une Premiere liste (Cordonnées) de qqs Hôtels à Sétif:
Hôtel SITIFIS. Tel : 0021336935115 Tel : 0021336841932 Fax : 0021336841868
Hôtel El Montazeh. Tel : 0021336843864 Fax : 0021336843492
Hôtel Frantz Fanon Tel : 0021336820002 /34 /24 /29 Fax : 0021336820039
Hôtel Al Rabie ( Le Printemps) Tel : 0021336845794 Tel : 0021336846241 Fax : 0021336846234
Hôtel REGANI. Tel: 0021336846223 Fax : 0021336846742
Bonne chance……………………….Tamurtanagh
Hôtel SITIFIS. Tel : 0021336935115 Tel : 0021336841932 Fax : 0021336841868
Hôtel El Montazeh. Tel : 0021336843864 Fax : 0021336843492
Hôtel Frantz Fanon Tel : 0021336820002 /34 /24 /29 Fax : 0021336820039
Hôtel Al Rabie ( Le Printemps) Tel : 0021336845794 Tel : 0021336846241 Fax : 0021336846234
Hôtel REGANI. Tel: 0021336846223 Fax : 0021336846742
Bonne chance……………………….Tamurtanagh
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Tout d'abord merci de prendre le temps de me donner ces renseignements.🙂
Cet après-midi j'ai passé quelques coups de téléphone dont à certains hôtels de ta liste.
Alors tout d'abord l'hôtel Sifitis je rappellerai demain parce que j'avais un n° qui n'est pas le bon. J'essaierai avec celui que tu mets dans ton mail.
Le Frantz Fanon est assez cher et El Rabie encore plus.
Le Regani je l'avais vu parce que c'est un des rares à avoir un site internet complet et je pensais qu'il était plus cher.
Malgré tout El Montazeh reste un peu moins cher donc ça sera peut-être celui là bien qu'il dépasse mon budget, il faut que je voie.
Dans la même rue que El Montazeh (avenue Ben Boulaid) il y en a un autre moins cher (plus dans mon budget) qui s'appelle … euh je crois que c'est l'hôtel Port Saïd. Est ce que tu connais? Ca doit être le standing au-dessous mais il est possible que ça me suffise. Quand je suis allée à Annaba j'avais un hôtel simple mais correct. Je n'ai pas besoin de luxe, juste la salle de bain et les toilettes dans la chambre et ça m'est égal qu'il n'y ait pas de touriste étranger qui y aille.
Dans la même rue que El Montazeh (avenue Ben Boulaid) il y en a un autre moins cher (plus dans mon budget) qui s'appelle … euh je crois que c'est l'hôtel Port Saïd. Est ce que tu connais? Ca doit être le standing au-dessous mais il est possible que ça me suffise. Quand je suis allée à Annaba j'avais un hôtel simple mais correct. Je n'ai pas besoin de luxe, juste la salle de bain et les toilettes dans la chambre et ça m'est égal qu'il n'y ait pas de touriste étranger qui y aille.
Bonsoir,
Qu ils sois Algériens ou étrangers, peut Importe, les êtres Humains sont Egaux….Si j'ai mentionné les Etrangers, c pas pour te dire que l Hôtel est Luxe ou il attire les étrangers, pas du tt……..Mais les Locaux aussi exigent la Propreté et la sécurité , mais au vue des Hôteliers , les Locaux sont plus sympa et plus compréhensifs que les étrangers, alors les Hôtels de moins de 2000 Dinars par Nuitée , prevelegent les Locaux, sans réservation , ni autre exigences des étrangers, et ils sont tjrs presque complet.
Je connais pas mal d Autre Hôtel a Sétif et dans sa région, il y a des très bons Hôtels dans le Région de Sétif: ( La Ville commerçante d' El Eulma, La Station Thermale de Bougaa, La Station Thermale de Hammam Sokhna, La Ville Romaine de Djemila, …..); cette soirée ou demain Matin je te communiquerais une 2eme Liste .
La Clim, La Salle de bain et les Toilettes dans les Chambres c la base en Algérie, alors ne te soucis pas pour ça.
Bonne soirée …….Kaiser
Qu ils sois Algériens ou étrangers, peut Importe, les êtres Humains sont Egaux….Si j'ai mentionné les Etrangers, c pas pour te dire que l Hôtel est Luxe ou il attire les étrangers, pas du tt……..Mais les Locaux aussi exigent la Propreté et la sécurité , mais au vue des Hôteliers , les Locaux sont plus sympa et plus compréhensifs que les étrangers, alors les Hôtels de moins de 2000 Dinars par Nuitée , prevelegent les Locaux, sans réservation , ni autre exigences des étrangers, et ils sont tjrs presque complet.
Je connais pas mal d Autre Hôtel a Sétif et dans sa région, il y a des très bons Hôtels dans le Région de Sétif: ( La Ville commerçante d' El Eulma, La Station Thermale de Bougaa, La Station Thermale de Hammam Sokhna, La Ville Romaine de Djemila, …..); cette soirée ou demain Matin je te communiquerais une 2eme Liste .
La Clim, La Salle de bain et les Toilettes dans les Chambres c la base en Algérie, alors ne te soucis pas pour ça.
Bonne soirée …….Kaiser
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Bonjour
Voici une 2eme Liste des Coordonnes d Hôtels a Sétif et sa région:
Hôtel El Kenz. Sétif
T: +21336845454
F: +231844666
Hôtel Aéroport. Sétif
T: +21336841423
Hôtel Continental. Sétif
T: + 21336855535
Hôtel EL RIF. El Eulma
T: +21336873064.
Hôtel Belle Vue. Djemila (Ville Romaine)
T: +21336945110.
Hôtel Hammam Sokhna. (Station Thermale)
T: +21336958380
F: +21336958517
Bonne Courage. Tamurtanagh
Voici une 2eme Liste des Coordonnes d Hôtels a Sétif et sa région:
Hôtel El Kenz. Sétif
T: +21336845454
F: +231844666
Hôtel Aéroport. Sétif
T: +21336841423
Hôtel Continental. Sétif
T: + 21336855535
Hôtel EL RIF. El Eulma
T: +21336873064.
Hôtel Belle Vue. Djemila (Ville Romaine)
T: +21336945110.
Hôtel Hammam Sokhna. (Station Thermale)
T: +21336958380
F: +21336958517
Bonne Courage. Tamurtanagh
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Bonjour,
Pas de soucis Chère Amie…….fait nous savoir l avancé de tes démarches, p être que tu auras encore besoin d autres Infos et autres renseignements; on est la pour contribuer a l enrichissement des connaissance et pr t aider a trouver les solutions a tes soucis.
Bonne chance et Bon Courage………………………………..Tamurtanagh
Pas de soucis Chère Amie…….fait nous savoir l avancé de tes démarches, p être que tu auras encore besoin d autres Infos et autres renseignements; on est la pour contribuer a l enrichissement des connaissance et pr t aider a trouver les solutions a tes soucis.
Bonne chance et Bon Courage………………………………..Tamurtanagh
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Bonjour,
Juste je veut ajouter a mes précédents Postes, que tu as aussi la Possibilité de faire tes réservation dans n importe quel Hôtel, par le Biais des innombrable Agences De Tourisme implanté a Sétif.
En général leur services est Fiable crédible, mais il faut juste payer en " surtaxe" leurs services….lol…
Bonne Journée…………………………..Tamurtanagh
Juste je veut ajouter a mes précédents Postes, que tu as aussi la Possibilité de faire tes réservation dans n importe quel Hôtel, par le Biais des innombrable Agences De Tourisme implanté a Sétif.
En général leur services est Fiable crédible, mais il faut juste payer en " surtaxe" leurs services….lol…
Bonne Journée…………………………..Tamurtanagh
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Finalement, grâce à une personne qui réside à Sétif j'ai pu avoir un fax de réservation d'un hôtel et j'ai déposé ma demande de visa ce matin. Je la récupère demain !! 🙂
Je me sens soulagée.
Ce n'est pas l'hôtel où j'irai vu qu'il est complet et trop cher (c'est un arrangement) mais en tout cas le problème de visa est résolu. En fait un autre hôtel avait refusé de fournir une attestation si le paiement complet des nuits n'était pas fait par avance ! Cotrairement à mon premier séjour, je trouve que les choses sont plus compliquées.
Je chercherai un hôtel quand je serai sur place, ce sera beaucoup plus simple. Merci pour les infos !
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




