Les incontournables entre Valence (Espagne) et Bordeaux
by Alloguylaine
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Mon conjoint et moi partons de Valence pour nous rendre à Bordeaux. Nous avons 3 semaines devant nous. Nous voyagerons en train ou en bus. Départ fin avril. Nous sommes curieux de vous lire sur vos coups de cœur entre les deux destinations.
Merci
En train ou bus c'est chaud... Je connais la France mais peu l'Espagne. Si je devais choisir des coups de coeur, y en a un tas. Dans la Catalogne française, tu as les Pyrénées, avec des villages comme Eus, Villefranche de Conflent ou Mosset, la rando du Canigou (ou autres randos plus faciles), la côte Vermeille avec Collioure, les châteaux Cathares... Aux alentours de Toulouse, tu as le Haut Languedoc avec des villages comme Minerve ou Olargues, ainsi que les montagnes. Tu as aussi Albi, tous les villages médiévaux proches. Plus au Nord c'est là que c'est le plus riche, avec le Quercy, la Corrèze, le Périgord... Plein de châteaux, de villages comme Rocamadour, Saint Cirq Lapopie, Cordes sur Ciel, Conques, Figeac...
Moi je prendrais plutôt la route qui passe par Barcelone, ce serait dommage de venir de si loin et de zapper cette étape. Et c'est sûrement plus pratique que par l'autre côté en transport en commun...
Après, les conseils qui vous ont été donnés ci-dessus sont judicieux... sauf qu'aller à Eus ou à Mosset en transports en commun, ça doit être une belle galère !
Bonjour,
C'est vrai que pas simple du tout ce voyage en transports en commun 🤪....
Une idée de circuit avec temps de transports pas trop longs et de belles visites :
Peut-être Train de Valence à Madrid (2h environ), quelques nuits à Madrid. Visite 2 jours de Madrid et aussi depuis Madrid : train pour visite de Tolèdo un jour entier (trèèès beau) (train = 50 min environ) et peut-être aussi depuis Madrid faire la visite de Ségovie un jour entier (mais déjà 2h de trajet aller çà)...
Puis Train de madrid à saragosse (environ 1h20 si train rapide), une nuit à Saragosse
Puis train de saragosse à barcelone (environ 2h si train rapide), quelques nuits à Barcelone et de Barcelone allez peut-être aussi faire un tour à Sitges, à Tarragone, à Montserrat, à Gérone....
Puis train de Barcelone vers andorre-la-vieille (3h20 environ si train rapide), une nuit ou deux là...
Puis bus depuis andorre la vieille vers Toulouse, (ouibus par ex = 3h30) quelques nuits à Toulouse, visite de Toulouse 2 jours et depuis toulouse : passez un jour à Albi, un autre à Auch, un autre à carcassonne....Environ à chaque fois 1 bonne heure de Toulouse à ces différents endroits en transports en commun (voir Rome2rio). Cordes sur ciel c'est vraiment très joli aussi mais alors il faut prendre le train de Toulouse jusque Albi (1h10) et là il faut prendre le bus (38 min)....Rocamadour il paraît que magnifique mais çà c'est pas évident en transports en commun je pense...
Puis de Toulouse : train vers Bordeaux (2h10 environ) . Depuis Bordeaux ? Paris (2h10 en train rapide) ? La Rochelle (2h15) ? Arcachon (1h) ? ......
Voici de quoi vous occuper 😉
Bonne préparation de voyage Dominique
C'est vrai que pas simple du tout ce voyage en transports en commun 🤪....
Une idée de circuit avec temps de transports pas trop longs et de belles visites :
Peut-être Train de Valence à Madrid (2h environ), quelques nuits à Madrid. Visite 2 jours de Madrid et aussi depuis Madrid : train pour visite de Tolèdo un jour entier (trèèès beau) (train = 50 min environ) et peut-être aussi depuis Madrid faire la visite de Ségovie un jour entier (mais déjà 2h de trajet aller çà)...
Puis Train de madrid à saragosse (environ 1h20 si train rapide), une nuit à Saragosse
Puis train de saragosse à barcelone (environ 2h si train rapide), quelques nuits à Barcelone et de Barcelone allez peut-être aussi faire un tour à Sitges, à Tarragone, à Montserrat, à Gérone....
Puis train de Barcelone vers andorre-la-vieille (3h20 environ si train rapide), une nuit ou deux là...
Puis bus depuis andorre la vieille vers Toulouse, (ouibus par ex = 3h30) quelques nuits à Toulouse, visite de Toulouse 2 jours et depuis toulouse : passez un jour à Albi, un autre à Auch, un autre à carcassonne....Environ à chaque fois 1 bonne heure de Toulouse à ces différents endroits en transports en commun (voir Rome2rio). Cordes sur ciel c'est vraiment très joli aussi mais alors il faut prendre le train de Toulouse jusque Albi (1h10) et là il faut prendre le bus (38 min)....Rocamadour il paraît que magnifique mais çà c'est pas évident en transports en commun je pense...
Puis de Toulouse : train vers Bordeaux (2h10 environ) . Depuis Bordeaux ? Paris (2h10 en train rapide) ? La Rochelle (2h15) ? Arcachon (1h) ? ......
Voici de quoi vous occuper 😉
Bonne préparation de voyage Dominique
Merci Dominike,
Votre réponse va grandement nous aider à planifier notre voyage.
Guylaine
Merci Hallu,
Je prends note de vos conseils
Guylaine
Merci Anasthasie,
Je prends note. J’ai visité plus d’une fois Barcelone. Magnifique! Voilà pourquoi je veux modifier un peu mon trajet.
Guylaine
Bonjour,
J'ai déjà fait Montpellier -> Valence en train, et ça se fait en 4H. J'ai beaucoup aimé cette ville, et surtout son Oceanografic !
Le long du chemin vous pouvez vous arrêter à Barcelone comme déjà indiqué, mais aussi Figueras qui est une jolie petite ville. Côté Français vous passerez par Perpignan.
En remontant en France vous avez ensuite le train qui fait toute la France d'Est en Ouest alors à vous de décider vos arrêts entre Montpellier, Narbonne, Carcassonne, Toulouse, puis Bordeaux. Comptez 4h30 pour Montpellier - Bordeaux (je le prends tous les mois 😉). Depuis cette grande ligne, vous pouvez aussi attraper des petits trains régionaux (TER) pour aller dans les villages.
Le long du chemin vous pouvez vous arrêter à Barcelone comme déjà indiqué, mais aussi Figueras qui est une jolie petite ville. Côté Français vous passerez par Perpignan.
En remontant en France vous avez ensuite le train qui fait toute la France d'Est en Ouest alors à vous de décider vos arrêts entre Montpellier, Narbonne, Carcassonne, Toulouse, puis Bordeaux. Comptez 4h30 pour Montpellier - Bordeaux (je le prends tous les mois 😉). Depuis cette grande ligne, vous pouvez aussi attraper des petits trains régionaux (TER) pour aller dans les villages.
Je vois pas trop ce que vient faire Montpellier dans tout ça, il cherche un itinéraire entre Valence et Bordeaux. Or Montpellier est à près de 4 heures de route de Barcelone, rien ne justifie ce grand détour, et en plus il vient de nous préciser qu'il connaissait déjà Barcelone...
Donc du coup, l'itinéraire logique est par le pays basque.
Ils n'avait pas précisé par quel côté ils souhaitait passer. Il est aussi possible de s'arrêter à Narbonne pour prendre la ligne vers Bordeaux par la suite. Après ils peuvent effectivement passer dans les terres mais je ne connais pas les arrêts possibles en transports en commun de ce côté là. 😉
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I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
Hi there, we’re a couple of bikers planning a trip to Majorca in June 2026, and I’d love to organize a half-day or full-day boat or catamaran outing. Which coast do you think is the nicest for this, and do you have any suggestions or personal experiences to share? Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there are any works in progress at Torcello, and if so, what type of works and how long they’re expected to last?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’m sharing my draft itinerary with you because I just booked our flight tickets, and I feel like it’s quite late in the season. So, I’d like to be sure about my stops before reserving the hotels. I’ll be traveling alone with my two adult children. We want to prioritize outdoor walks, avoid too many indoor visits (both for budget and preference), and not spend too much time on the road.
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
Hello,
we’re a couple planning a 2-week road trip this August, with a must-stop (about 3 days on Skye). Any route suggestions? Hotel recommendations? Photo spots?
Hello,
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
Hi there,
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks