Inde du Sud en voiture avec chauffeur?
by Eilahtan
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
🙂 Bonjour,
Quelqu'un a t-il déjà voyagé en voiture avec chauffeur dans le Tamil Nadu et à quel prix. Nous sommes 4 ( 2 adultes et 2 ados) et partons 15 jours au départ de Chennai.
quel type de véhicule préférer ? avez vous des expériences avec Bas and Das ou Moksha tours?
merci
nath
Location d'une Toyota Qualis dans le sud de l'Inde = de 7 à 8 roupie/km ou de 1500 à 1700 Rs/jour (avec un maximum de 200 km/jour). Cela dépend notamment du prix du carburant, de l'utilisation de la clim.
Ces prix comprennent le salaire (bata) du chauffeur, l'essence, la voiture. Le chauffeur se débrouille pour dormir.
A noter qu'en fonction des relations que l'on a avec le chauffeur (il peut rendre service notamment indiquer des hôtels pas chers, donner des renseignements divers, etc.), il ne paraît pas anaormal de lui donner un pourboire (par exemple 100 Rs par jour, sachant que son salaire tourne autour de 200 à 250 Rs/jour). Il ne paraît pas non plus anormal de lui payer quelques repas, chaï, etc. Tout dépend des relations que l'on a avec lui.
Ces prix comprennent le salaire (bata) du chauffeur, l'essence, la voiture. Le chauffeur se débrouille pour dormir.
A noter qu'en fonction des relations que l'on a avec le chauffeur (il peut rendre service notamment indiquer des hôtels pas chers, donner des renseignements divers, etc.), il ne paraît pas anaormal de lui donner un pourboire (par exemple 100 Rs par jour, sachant que son salaire tourne autour de 200 à 250 Rs/jour). Il ne paraît pas non plus anormal de lui payer quelques repas, chaï, etc. Tout dépend des relations que l'on a avec lui.
Je n'ai pas d''adresses de chauffeurs à Pondicherry mais j'en ai à Allepey (Kerala)
Nous sommes interessés par ton adresse de chauffeur à Allepey
Nous serons à Kochi le 21 janvier, et nous voulons avoir un chauffeur pendant une dizaine de jour pr visiter une partie du Karnataka
nous avons déjà pris contact avec une agence mais, on ne répond plus à nos mails
merci de répondre
Anjana
Paris
🙂 Namaste,
Tu peux aussi louer une Ambassador (moins confortable qu'une Qualis) mais sur les routes du Tamil Nadu elle ne roule pas moins vite qu'une Qualis ... 40/50 km/h le prix de la location est d'environ 1200 roupies pas jour avec en général 200 km inclus.
J'ai l'habitude de donner un pourboire d'environ 100 roupie/jour au chauffeur voir un peu plus si je lui demande d'autres services. Au Tamil Nadu je n'ai jamais eu de problème avec les chauffeur, il sont en général à 99% sympas; seul problème selon les endroits que tu désires visiter (si ces derniers se trouvent hors des zones touristiques habituelles, il cherchera sa route et fera quelques détours .. mais c'est la vie).
Bon voyage.
Tu peux aussi louer une Ambassador (moins confortable qu'une Qualis) mais sur les routes du Tamil Nadu elle ne roule pas moins vite qu'une Qualis ... 40/50 km/h le prix de la location est d'environ 1200 roupies pas jour avec en général 200 km inclus.
J'ai l'habitude de donner un pourboire d'environ 100 roupie/jour au chauffeur voir un peu plus si je lui demande d'autres services. Au Tamil Nadu je n'ai jamais eu de problème avec les chauffeur, il sont en général à 99% sympas; seul problème selon les endroits que tu désires visiter (si ces derniers se trouvent hors des zones touristiques habituelles, il cherchera sa route et fera quelques détours .. mais c'est la vie).
Bon voyage.
Ganesha
Namaskaram !
Voici ce que nous avons payé, il y a une semaine : 01 aircon Ambassador car from 28 oct to 4 nov - Euro 225 inclusive of vehicle hire charges, transfers, sight seeing, fuel and driver allowance.
Durant le voyage, nous avons invité le chauffeur à se joindre de temps à autres à nous pour manger et avant notre départ, nous lui avons également remis l'équivalent de 100 roupies/jour (en arrondissant ...).
Chauffeur très sympa, faisant parfois office de guide (notamment dans Cochin, sa ville), très attentionné, conduisant très bien, s'arrêtant lorsqu'on le désirait, etc ... (Bibin, de l'agence Moksha Tours à Cochin ... à recommander !).
@+, Sabaïdee
Voici ce que nous avons payé, il y a une semaine : 01 aircon Ambassador car from 28 oct to 4 nov - Euro 225 inclusive of vehicle hire charges, transfers, sight seeing, fuel and driver allowance.
Durant le voyage, nous avons invité le chauffeur à se joindre de temps à autres à nous pour manger et avant notre départ, nous lui avons également remis l'équivalent de 100 roupies/jour (en arrondissant ...).
Chauffeur très sympa, faisant parfois office de guide (notamment dans Cochin, sa ville), très attentionné, conduisant très bien, s'arrêtant lorsqu'on le désirait, etc ... (Bibin, de l'agence Moksha Tours à Cochin ... à recommander !).
@+, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Bonjour,
Avis aux connaisseurs ! Nous sommes 3 et partons 3 semaines pour l'Inde du sud fin avril. Nous recherchons voiture+chauffeur pour un circuit établi par nous mêmes au départ de CHENNAI ou BUNGALORE. Quelqu'un a-t-il déjà fait affaire avec vijay tourisme ? a priori, les prix sont intéressants et que pensez-vous de MOKSHA TOURS ?
Merci pour vos infos... LILIQUE
Avis aux connaisseurs ! Nous sommes 3 et partons 3 semaines pour l'Inde du sud fin avril. Nous recherchons voiture+chauffeur pour un circuit établi par nous mêmes au départ de CHENNAI ou BUNGALORE. Quelqu'un a-t-il déjà fait affaire avec vijay tourisme ? a priori, les prix sont intéressants et que pensez-vous de MOKSHA TOURS ?
Merci pour vos infos... LILIQUE
Bonjour,
je pars avec mari et 2 ados fin février de Chennai pour parcourir le Tamil Nadu pdt 15 jours.
Nous avons, après moult discussions, opté pour l'agence Moksha Tours et avons eu de nbx contacts avec son propriétaire Mr Murali. Nous aurons une Toyota qUALIS+ clim pour 2000Rs / jour) environ 35 euros ce qui est correct.
J'ai déjà voyagé en Inde à 2 + chauffeur, et l'ambassador suffisait largement...alors à 3 ?
Bon voyage en tout cas, n'hésitez pas à nous recontacter à notre retour le 13 mars.
nath
Merci pour ces infos, je vais en faire part à mes co-équipières!
J'en profite pour vous adresser mes meilleurs voeux et vous souhaiter bon voyage. Je vous recontacterai avec plaisir à votre retour et suis preneuse de vos bons plans et impréssions lors de votre séjour.
Bonne route et à bientôt !
LILIQUE
J'en profite pour vous adresser mes meilleurs voeux et vous souhaiter bon voyage. Je vous recontacterai avec plaisir à votre retour et suis preneuse de vos bons plans et impréssions lors de votre séjour.
Bonne route et à bientôt !
LILIQUE
Bonjour.
Je suis un peu connaisseur sur les véhicules en Inde vu que j'y reste environ 2 mois tous les 2 ans.
Pour 4, une grande cylindrée est nécessaire.
Voici les principales :
Tata Sumo; sortie en 1996, elle est je pense la plus spacieuse de tous (pour 10 places)(de 7 à 10 places avec beaucoup d'espaces) fabrication indienne. Ella fait un carton, tous les km on en voyait une) moteur un peu moins performant que les autres
Puis est apparue la Toyota Qualis en 2000 . pareil même carton. Quand je suis retourné en Inde il y en avait une tous les 500 m. Plus Confortable, mais moins spacieuse que la sumo cepandant bon moteur et bonne tenue de route et fiable.
Mais depuis leur sortie il existe des versions nouvelles et bonnes des sumo et qualis
Puis Chevrolet Tavera en 2004. Quand je retourne en 2006, elle n'a pas connue un si grand carton mais très présente. C ma préférée. Elle est plus confortable que la qualis, très bonne tenue de route, etc....
En 2005 Toyota Innova même carton que Qualis, mais seulement 7 places.Quoique ne l'ayant pas essayé ellle est la plus confi pour 7 places, design futuriste très spacieuse etc...
Pour ceux qui sont nostalgiques de la Qualis, elle commence à devenir démodé. Moi je vous conseille franchement l'Ambassador (une vraie pollueuse sauf le dernier modèle).
Si vous êtes 3-4 la Tata Indica peut aussi suffir ou la Ford Ikon.
Mais comme en général vous faites pas mal de km avec des valises ou les objets achetés et qu'il faut de place, prenez une grande voiture.
Voici mon classement : 1) Chevrolet Tavera- Toyota Innova 2) Toyota Qualis 3) Tata Sumo 4) Tata Indica.. fin) Ambassador
Voici mon classement : 1) Chevrolet Tavera- Toyota Innova 2) Toyota Qualis 3) Tata Sumo 4) Tata Indica.. fin) Ambassador
Le monde ne tourne plus rond. Mais heuresement qu'il y a l'aviation.
je reviens avec mon amie d'un trip de 17 jours dans le sud (bangalore vers Chennai via Mysore, Ooty, Kochi, Kumaly, Allepey, Madurai, Trichy, Tanjore, Malammapuram et Kanchipuram).
J'ai suivi les avis de Lulu sur le forum et me suis mis en contact avec un chauffeur de Madurai qui est venu nous chercher à l'aéroport de Bangalore et nous a conduit jusqu'à CHennai pour 26.000 rs. pour une ambassador (sans A/C, enfi il y en avait un mais je n'aime pas).
Il est très serviable, s'est occupé des réservations d'hôtels dans les prix qu'on indiquait (en fait il aurait pu le faire entièrement avant notre arivée, ce qui m'aurait fait gagner du temps, s'est coupé en 4 pour nous trouvé un bateau pour faire un tour dans les backwaters, malgré le WE de nouvel an et les prix qui avaient doublé en qqs jours, a des contacts partout, connait les sites à voir, trouve des guides si nécessaire (pour un temple compliqué, cela vaut la peine surtout si on veut approcher des endroits où c'est pas toujours évident voire permis aux non hindus), a pas mal d'humour, m'a semblé très réglo en nous conseillant bien dans les visites, achats ...
Mani parle un anglais correct, ne manque pas d'humour et surtout comprend vite ce qu'on aime et ce qu'on aime pas.
ses coordonnées : spmani6500@yahoo.co.in
jerome
Jeromeglo,
Je suis doublement satisfait que tu ais apprécié les services de MANI : tout d'abord parce que cela t'a permis de faire un voyage agréable et ensuite parce que cela me conforte à continuer à le conseiller et donc l'aider. Il est vraiment un homme de confiance et de plus il s'investit comme correspondant local de notre association "AIDONS LES ENFANTS DU TAMIL NADU" qui finance la scolarisation d'enfants défavorisés.
Je suis doublement satisfait que tu ais apprécié les services de MANI : tout d'abord parce que cela t'a permis de faire un voyage agréable et ensuite parce que cela me conforte à continuer à le conseiller et donc l'aider. Il est vraiment un homme de confiance et de plus il s'investit comme correspondant local de notre association "AIDONS LES ENFANTS DU TAMIL NADU" qui finance la scolarisation d'enfants défavorisés.
Je vois le monde un peu comme on voit l'incroyable, L'incroyable c'est ça c'est ce qu'on ne voit pas (Léo Ferré)
http://2010inde.canalblog.com/ et http://2011inde.canalblog.com/ et
http://2012inde.canalblog.com/
Nous arrivons du Tamil Nadu ou nous avons loué une voiture avec chauffeur à Pondichery pour 30 euros par jour (essence comprise mais pas les parkings : pas chers en moyenne 10 rpes).
Nous étions 3 et la voiture une ambassadeur.
Trés pratique pour visiter les coins un peu à l'écart.
Michel
Nous étions 3 et la voiture une ambassadeur.
Trés pratique pour visiter les coins un peu à l'écart.
Michel
Carpe Diem
rentrons du tnadu, et avons circuler 3 semaines avec Suresh, de l'hotel GRT temple bay à Mammalipuram. Adorable et très prudent. Nous étions 5 (2 ad, 3 petits enfants ), c'était une toyota je ne sais quoi mais style espace, 7 places, airco. Avons payé 2250 Rs/jour, tout compris. Avons donné un pourboire de 150 Rs/jour à Suresh. J'ai son mobile etc...si intérressé.
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Question : quelle voiture loues-tu (Tata Indigo, Tata Indica, Qualis), avec AC ou sans AC, etc. ?
A quel endroit loues-tu le taxi et grosso modo quel est ton trajet ?
Première réaction : 300 roupies = 5, 5 € ce n'est vraiment pas grand chose, donc dans l'absolu cela ne devrait pas poser de problème de budget !
Sur la forme : mes amis indiens qui possèdent des (deux) voitures taxis procèdent de la même façon : un tarif fixe par jour (exemple = 1500 Rps pour une Qualis) qui inclut 100 km par jour (c'est une moyenne), le salaire du chauffeur ("bata"). Ce tarif varie si AC, non AC, etc. attention, si le voyage est un trajet d'un point A à un point B (pas une boucle de A à A); il faudra compter le retour "à vide" (exemple : une journée de location en plus soit 1500 Rps + les extra-km éventuels) --> normal. Tout cela se calcule avec le propriétaire du taxi au départ (parfois directement avec le chauffeur), et les comptes sont faits au moment de quitter le chauffeur (on calcule notamment les km réellement effectués); si la voiture rencontre un problème (crevaison, réparation), le chauffeur s'en occupe et le client ne paie rien; au-delà de 100 km par jour, le client paie les extra-km directement au chauffeur; le client paie les parkings et les taxes de passage de "frontière" (exemple : Kerala --> Tamil Nadu = quelques centaines de roupies peut-être 500 Rps; Kerala --> Karnataka = plus cher peut-être 1000 Rps voire plus; ils m'ont donné les tarifs mais je les ai oubliés); en revanche, le chauffeur paie les "tolls" (le passage de quelques ponts, de quelques tronçons de high-way). Mais cela ne me paraîtrait pas abhérant que le client les paie, de toute façon le prix est dérisoire (exemple : grand pont à l'arrivée de Ernakulam depuis Allepey --> 7, 5 roupies aller-retour soit un franc français).
Conclusion : a priori le tarif proposé est tout à fait correct et les 300 rps demandés ne sont pas une arnaque mais correspondent à la pratique courante. Que cela ne remette pas en cause la confiance que tu dois accorder a priori à ton chauffeur si tu veux passer un agréable voyage. Ne pas oublier que le chauffeur n'est certes pas un guide mais peut être d'excellent conseil (pour trouver un hôtel, un restaurant, un produit ou un service quelconque, pour donner des informations sur les us et coutumes, etc.). Si une bonne relation s'établit avec lui, ne pas oublier de lui donner au moins 100 Rps par jour en fin de voyage, en guise de "tip" c'est à dire de pourboire. La salaire des chauffeurs est modeste au regard de leur disponibilité, et en général de leur compétence (il ne dépasse pas 200 Rps par jour quand il travaille et il a bien 50 Rps de frais). En fonction des possibilités, ne pas hésiter à choisir un hôtel comportant accomodation (dortoir) pour chauffeur (le client ne paie pas pour cela, c'est une forme de pourboire accordé par l'hôtel au chauffeur qui apporte un client, c'est normal). En fonction des relations avec le chauffeur, ne pas hésiter à lui payer quelques menus (menus pour nous) frais = les chaïs ou les modestes repas pris le long de la route. Le chauffeur appréciera (même s'il ne dit rien), cela contribuera aux bonnes relations, et ton voyage en sera d'autant plus satisfaisant.
Bien sûr, ne pas être complètement innocent, mais en général, dans le sud de l'Inde, les chauffeurs de taxis ne sont pas des arnaqueurs, et on peut avoir confiance en eux. Si on ne comprend pas un usage, une pratique, le leur dire et essayer de comprendre avant de les soupçonner. Garder en mémoire que le revenu du chauffeur est très modeste, que celui du propriétaire du taxi n'est pas non plus extra-ordinaire si l'on compte l'amortissement de la voiture (comparer avec les tarifs occidentaux, combien coûterait la location d'une voiture avec chauffeur pendant 24 heures en France ? 300, 400, 500 € ? je n'ose pas y penser...). Profites donc au maximum de ce "luxe", de la liberté donnée par un voyage en voiture, par le contact avec un habitant du pays c'est à dire le chauffeur, et ne sois pas radin (ce n'est pas péjoratif dans mais c'est le mot le plus juste pour bien me faire comprendre) à quelques centaines de roupies près.
Voilà, j'espère t'avoir éclairé avec ma modeste expérience.
Première réaction : 300 roupies = 5, 5 € ce n'est vraiment pas grand chose, donc dans l'absolu cela ne devrait pas poser de problème de budget !
Sur la forme : mes amis indiens qui possèdent des (deux) voitures taxis procèdent de la même façon : un tarif fixe par jour (exemple = 1500 Rps pour une Qualis) qui inclut 100 km par jour (c'est une moyenne), le salaire du chauffeur ("bata"). Ce tarif varie si AC, non AC, etc. attention, si le voyage est un trajet d'un point A à un point B (pas une boucle de A à A); il faudra compter le retour "à vide" (exemple : une journée de location en plus soit 1500 Rps + les extra-km éventuels) --> normal. Tout cela se calcule avec le propriétaire du taxi au départ (parfois directement avec le chauffeur), et les comptes sont faits au moment de quitter le chauffeur (on calcule notamment les km réellement effectués); si la voiture rencontre un problème (crevaison, réparation), le chauffeur s'en occupe et le client ne paie rien; au-delà de 100 km par jour, le client paie les extra-km directement au chauffeur; le client paie les parkings et les taxes de passage de "frontière" (exemple : Kerala --> Tamil Nadu = quelques centaines de roupies peut-être 500 Rps; Kerala --> Karnataka = plus cher peut-être 1000 Rps voire plus; ils m'ont donné les tarifs mais je les ai oubliés); en revanche, le chauffeur paie les "tolls" (le passage de quelques ponts, de quelques tronçons de high-way). Mais cela ne me paraîtrait pas abhérant que le client les paie, de toute façon le prix est dérisoire (exemple : grand pont à l'arrivée de Ernakulam depuis Allepey --> 7, 5 roupies aller-retour soit un franc français).
Conclusion : a priori le tarif proposé est tout à fait correct et les 300 rps demandés ne sont pas une arnaque mais correspondent à la pratique courante. Que cela ne remette pas en cause la confiance que tu dois accorder a priori à ton chauffeur si tu veux passer un agréable voyage. Ne pas oublier que le chauffeur n'est certes pas un guide mais peut être d'excellent conseil (pour trouver un hôtel, un restaurant, un produit ou un service quelconque, pour donner des informations sur les us et coutumes, etc.). Si une bonne relation s'établit avec lui, ne pas oublier de lui donner au moins 100 Rps par jour en fin de voyage, en guise de "tip" c'est à dire de pourboire. La salaire des chauffeurs est modeste au regard de leur disponibilité, et en général de leur compétence (il ne dépasse pas 200 Rps par jour quand il travaille et il a bien 50 Rps de frais). En fonction des possibilités, ne pas hésiter à choisir un hôtel comportant accomodation (dortoir) pour chauffeur (le client ne paie pas pour cela, c'est une forme de pourboire accordé par l'hôtel au chauffeur qui apporte un client, c'est normal). En fonction des relations avec le chauffeur, ne pas hésiter à lui payer quelques menus (menus pour nous) frais = les chaïs ou les modestes repas pris le long de la route. Le chauffeur appréciera (même s'il ne dit rien), cela contribuera aux bonnes relations, et ton voyage en sera d'autant plus satisfaisant.
Bien sûr, ne pas être complètement innocent, mais en général, dans le sud de l'Inde, les chauffeurs de taxis ne sont pas des arnaqueurs, et on peut avoir confiance en eux. Si on ne comprend pas un usage, une pratique, le leur dire et essayer de comprendre avant de les soupçonner. Garder en mémoire que le revenu du chauffeur est très modeste, que celui du propriétaire du taxi n'est pas non plus extra-ordinaire si l'on compte l'amortissement de la voiture (comparer avec les tarifs occidentaux, combien coûterait la location d'une voiture avec chauffeur pendant 24 heures en France ? 300, 400, 500 € ? je n'ose pas y penser...). Profites donc au maximum de ce "luxe", de la liberté donnée par un voyage en voiture, par le contact avec un habitant du pays c'est à dire le chauffeur, et ne sois pas radin (ce n'est pas péjoratif dans mais c'est le mot le plus juste pour bien me faire comprendre) à quelques centaines de roupies près.
Voilà, j'espère t'avoir éclairé avec ma modeste expérience.
bonjour et merci beaucoup pour cette réponse détaillée. En fait, j'ai fait une erreur de frappe: ce chauffeur demande 3000 roupies (et non 300) en plus des 2000 roupies/jour pour une qualis (nous sommes 4, donc Ambassador trop petite).
Notre trajet va de Madurai à Chennai (donc pas de boucle en effet) en 9 jours. Il faut donc compter le retour à vide. Je ne veux pas radiner mais je me demande si ce prix est correct et surtout si l'on est censé négocier le prix comme on le fait sur place avec les taxis.
Faut il égalemententendre à l'avance sur le trajet exact et le nombre de kms/jour?
Merci d'avance de votre réponse, cordialement
Laurent B.
Tu vas payer en tout 21000 roupies soit environ 390 € pour 10 jours (retour à vide compris). Je ne sais plus combien de km il y a sur la carte entre Madras et Maduraï, mettons 400 km + 400 km retour + 200 km à vous ballader = total = 1000 km soit 100 km/jour.
Exemple de la Qualis de mes amis indiens (basée au Kérala, à Allepey c'est à dire une région très touristique) - avec AC tu aurais payé 10 jours fois 1750 roupies par jour avec 100 km de crédit par jour (total = 1000 km) donc pas d'extra-kilomètre. C'est vrai que le taxi va peut-être payer un parking le soir (du moins il est d'usage de donner un pourboire au gardien du parking de l'hôtel, le cas échéant - 20 roupies au maximum) - allez 500 roupies au maximum pour les parkings et les péages (de mémoire entre Chennaï et Maduraï il n'y a pas de toll= péage). J'arrondis à 18000 roupies soit 3000 roupies de moins que ton taxi.
Dans l'absolu, surtout comparé aux prix européens, c'est très peu cher, mais par rapport aux prix indiens c'est certainement dans la moyenne haute, mais pas encore exagéré. A ce prix, je m'attends néanmoins à un service d'un très bon niveau (voiture en très bon état, chauffeur impeccable). Si tu n'as pas d'autres proposition, tu peux accepter celle-là.
"Négocier le prix" au sens de barguiner je dirais non, au sens de discuter en fonction de la prestation je dirais c'est possible (c'est ce que font les indiens, mais ils ont l'habitude et des prix et des options). Franchement, si le taxi est d'un bon niveau cela ne me chagrinerait pas trop de payer 21000 roupies pour 10 jours, même si je sais que c'est peut-être un peu plus que la moyenne. Quand on ne connaît pas, mieux vaut payer un taxi d'un très bon niveau à 21000 roupies qu'un taxi moins sûr à 18000 roupies.
Au départ, on s'entend sur le nombre de jours, le kilométrage, et sur le prix des extra-km éventuels (autour de 7 Rps le km pour une Qualis). En fin de parcours, si on a des extra-km on les paye directement au chauffeur.
Question que je poserais bien à ton taxi : qu'est-ce qu'il entend par "parking", il est possible que ce terme recouvre aussi les frais du chauffeur pour dormir + repas. Si tel était le cas (si je suis sûr que cet argent va au chauffeur et pas au propriétaire du taxi), cela m'inciterait d'avantage à accepter ce "sur-coût".
Exemple de la Qualis de mes amis indiens (basée au Kérala, à Allepey c'est à dire une région très touristique) - avec AC tu aurais payé 10 jours fois 1750 roupies par jour avec 100 km de crédit par jour (total = 1000 km) donc pas d'extra-kilomètre. C'est vrai que le taxi va peut-être payer un parking le soir (du moins il est d'usage de donner un pourboire au gardien du parking de l'hôtel, le cas échéant - 20 roupies au maximum) - allez 500 roupies au maximum pour les parkings et les péages (de mémoire entre Chennaï et Maduraï il n'y a pas de toll= péage). J'arrondis à 18000 roupies soit 3000 roupies de moins que ton taxi.
Dans l'absolu, surtout comparé aux prix européens, c'est très peu cher, mais par rapport aux prix indiens c'est certainement dans la moyenne haute, mais pas encore exagéré. A ce prix, je m'attends néanmoins à un service d'un très bon niveau (voiture en très bon état, chauffeur impeccable). Si tu n'as pas d'autres proposition, tu peux accepter celle-là.
"Négocier le prix" au sens de barguiner je dirais non, au sens de discuter en fonction de la prestation je dirais c'est possible (c'est ce que font les indiens, mais ils ont l'habitude et des prix et des options). Franchement, si le taxi est d'un bon niveau cela ne me chagrinerait pas trop de payer 21000 roupies pour 10 jours, même si je sais que c'est peut-être un peu plus que la moyenne. Quand on ne connaît pas, mieux vaut payer un taxi d'un très bon niveau à 21000 roupies qu'un taxi moins sûr à 18000 roupies.
Au départ, on s'entend sur le nombre de jours, le kilométrage, et sur le prix des extra-km éventuels (autour de 7 Rps le km pour une Qualis). En fin de parcours, si on a des extra-km on les paye directement au chauffeur.
Question que je poserais bien à ton taxi : qu'est-ce qu'il entend par "parking", il est possible que ce terme recouvre aussi les frais du chauffeur pour dormir + repas. Si tel était le cas (si je suis sûr que cet argent va au chauffeur et pas au propriétaire du taxi), cela m'inciterait d'avantage à accepter ce "sur-coût".
Suresh est le (ou un des) chauffeur de l'hôtel GRT temple bay (www.grttemplebay.com)
Voici son mobile : 98407 98714, un homme marié, 2 enfants d'une quarantaine d'année, grand et robuste.
Magesh du travel desk de l'hôtel est un malayi vraiment compétent et qui peut s'occuper de vos réservations, conseils etc...gratuitement. Le manager du travel desk, Kartnik, son mobile : 99401 32337.
email de l'hotel : mail@grttemplebay.com
La voiture avait le logo de l'hôtel, suresh portait fièrement son uniforme blanc impeccable et en cas de pépin, des antennes GRT pour remplacer le véhicule qui serait endommagé. TOUS les jours, Magesh nous appellait pour savoir si tout allait bien etc....
Voyager dans de telles conditions est un vrai bonheur, nos enfants ont pleuré à chaudes larmes quand Suresh nous a quitté, encore aujourd'hui ils en parlent tout le temps. Si vous avez la chance de voyager avec lui, faites lui savoir comme il manque aux enfants. On l'embrasse. (bizarre ça en Inde...).
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Si vous vous décidiez...et passez à la phase négociation de prix, probablement avec Magesh, dites lui que vous venez de la part de Madame Achille et leurs 3 enfants, Alexandra, Olivia et Gauthier. Je suis blanche belge, mon mari camerounais, pas trop courant en Inde....
Aussi, on pouvait choisir la voiture, entre une espace, une 4*4, il y avait aussi une petite ambassador, toutes avaient des pneus neufs, 5 ceintures de sécû etc....par contre les prix, je n'ai mentionné que celle de la toyota espace (je ne sais plus le nom exact).
Voilà, bon voyage
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
A moins d etre oblige pour raison medicale en particulier, la voiture avec chauffeur n'est pas necessaire en Inde du Sud. La population est tres sympa et les trains ( pour longues distances ) et bus ( distances courtes) sont tres fiables.
😎😎😎😎😎
http://arnaldinio.spaces.live.com/ Mon Blog Sur mon periple en Inde su Sud - Merci a tous pour vos precieux conseils !
Suresh ne parle qu'anglais. Mais quel bonheur de voyager avec lui. Il est aussi très prudent, ce qui n'est pas négligeable en Inde !!!!
bon voyage
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
J'ai voyagé de Rameshwaram à Madurai, et retour de Madurai à Trivandrum avec taxi privé.
Combien de kms ? je ne sais pas, en tous cas beaucoup, très long voyage, périlleux, alors que c'est tellement plus cool en train.
"Le vrai bonheur ne dépend d'aucun être, d'aucun objet extérieur.Il ne dépend que de nous". Dalaï-Lama
bonjour à vous et à tous,
en remerciement pour vos infos d'avant départ, un petit mot à notre retour. Nous avons passé 10 jours formidables ds le Tamil Nadu, où nous avons loué une voiture avec chauffeur. Nous avions négocié et finalisé avec Mani, de Madurai, dont nous avons fait la connaissance avant de prendre la route. Malheureusement, sans doute parce qu'il ne possède qu'une ambassador et que nous étions 4, il n'a pas été notre chauffeur. Mani et son collègue Palani sont deux hommes charmants. Notre chauffeur Saravanan l'était égalemement, très prudent, serviable et discret. Un petit regret cependant: son anglais un peu insuffisant pour permettre un communication toujours efficace, probleme qu'on n'aurait sans doute pas rencontré avec Mani qui parle mieux. Sinon, rien que du bonheur dans cette région de l'Inde où les gens sont super gentils et chaleureux, et où il y a tant à voir.
en remerciement pour vos infos d'avant départ, un petit mot à notre retour. Nous avons passé 10 jours formidables ds le Tamil Nadu, où nous avons loué une voiture avec chauffeur. Nous avions négocié et finalisé avec Mani, de Madurai, dont nous avons fait la connaissance avant de prendre la route. Malheureusement, sans doute parce qu'il ne possède qu'une ambassador et que nous étions 4, il n'a pas été notre chauffeur. Mani et son collègue Palani sont deux hommes charmants. Notre chauffeur Saravanan l'était égalemement, très prudent, serviable et discret. Un petit regret cependant: son anglais un peu insuffisant pour permettre un communication toujours efficace, probleme qu'on n'aurait sans doute pas rencontré avec Mani qui parle mieux. Sinon, rien que du bonheur dans cette région de l'Inde où les gens sont super gentils et chaleureux, et où il y a tant à voir.
🙂Bonjour a tous, je suis nouveau membre je cherche conseils pour un voyage sud de l'inde. Je commence a regarder mais n'avons pas fixé de date, je vois qu'il y a le choix pour les chauffeurs, nous voudrions faire un voyage plutot tranquille sans faire 300kms par jour;la region que vous avez fait m'interesse les coordonnées chauffeur aussi, avez vous des adresses de guest house ou hotels ou est ce que le chauffeur s'est occupé de tout? On serait 2 envisageons le voyage que dans 1 ou 2 ans en fevrier est ce la bone période pour partir au sud? Tous les conseils me seront précieux pour organiser le circuits qu'y a t il a voir et a éviter? merci d'avance a tous ceux qui m'aideront.😊nath
nath
Pour avoir déjà une petite idée du Sud de l'Inde, vous pouvez aller faire un tour sur le blog que j'ai fait lors de mon dernier voyage en Octobre 2007 : http://inde2007.kikooboo.com/
Je vois le monde un peu comme on voit l'incroyable, L'incroyable c'est ça c'est ce qu'on ne voit pas (Léo Ferré)
http://2010inde.canalblog.com/ et http://2011inde.canalblog.com/ et
http://2012inde.canalblog.com/
Merci pour l'indication je vais regarder ça.Je pense qu'en tenant compte de tous les avis je devrais faire queque choses de pas mal. Cela fait longtemps que je reve d'y aller de voir tous ça je me rends compte que ça prend forme surtout grace a vous en lisant vos pages on voyage un peu plus.
nath
bonsoir du kerala
voici mes album de photos du kerala! bonne vision !
monique de kochi
www.flickr.com/photos/visita-kerala
voici mes album de photos du kerala! bonne vision !
monique de kochi
www.flickr.com/photos/visita-kerala
rêve ton rêve intensément jusqu'à sa réalisation! (bertrand piccard, à la fin de son tour du monde en mongolfière)
😉 Tu dis je vous conseille ou je vous déconseille :l'Ambassador ? 😊
Dans l'amitié François
Pour les petites distances l ambassador convient mais elle n est pas trop a mon gout. Pour les longues distances je la deconseille car elle chauffe vite l acceleration est a revoir et elle est gourmande en carburant. La semaine derniere on a loue une Innova car on ete 7 et c etait super confortable et spacieux. En gros je deconseille l ambassador.
Le monde ne tourne plus rond. Mais heuresement qu'il y a l'aviation.
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So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
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I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
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Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
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In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
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I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
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Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
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NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.
Hi everyone, Kerala experts (especially Marien!)
In January, I’m planning another trip to Kerala. We’ll arrive in Kochi and travel up the coast by train to Gokarna.
So I’m reaching out to ask if it’s worth stopping for a few days in any of the following spots (not all, of course—just one or two that are really worth it...). From what I’ve seen, few Western tourists stop along this coast, given how little info there is about it:
Mahe, Thalassery, Taliparamba, Nileshwar, Bekal, Kasaragod
I’m not mentioning Kannur because we’ve already been there, specifically Thottada Beach, and we’re familiar with the southern destinations (Trivandrum, Kovalam, etc.).
Thanks for your replies!
Anne
Hello,
My husband and I usually spend a month in January/February in southern India. We end our trip in Gokarna and fly back from Vasco de Gama Airport in Dabolim. So, it might make sense to spend a few days in a nice, quiet spot in southern Goa. Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks




