Itinéraire pour dix-sept jours au Pérou en novembre
by Pirounette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous sommes un couple et nous partons au perou du samedi 13 au lundi 29 novembre 2010, le vol est réservé et je prepare l'itineraire par nos propres moyens. J'aurais besoin de vos conseils par rapport à l'itinéraire et je voudrais savoir s'il faut réserver à l'avance et avant de partir les vols intérieurs et le train pour le machu picchu?
itineraire:
sam13:arrivée lima 18h50, taxi et nuit a l'hotel
dim14:bus ballestas, puis nazca, bus de nuit pour arequipa
lun15: arequipa, visite de la ville et nuit à l'hotel
mar16et merc17: canon de colca par agence
jeu18:bus arequipa puno, nuit a puno
ven19:puno lac titicaca , bus de nuit puno cusco
sam20:visite ville de cusco nuit a l'hotel
dim21: avion pour puerto maldonado
lundi22mard23mer24:puerto maldonado
jeu25:retour en avion a cusco nuit à l'hotel
ven26:cusco ollantaytambo en train , nuit a aguas calientes
sam27: machu picchu, nuit à aguas calientes
dim28:retour a cuzco vol pour lima
lun29: depart à 20hh55 pour nantes
qu'en pensez_vous?
Merci pour vos précieux conseils
Bonjour,
il y a plusieurs jours dans ton itinéraire qui vont être difficilement réalisables.
- dim14 : tu ne peux pas faire dans la même journée Lima - Ballestas - Nazca - Aréquipa! A mon avis, vu que ton voyage va être très court, il vaudrait mieux que tu prennes un avion Lima - Aréquipa, ou alors, laisse tomber Puerto maldonado, mais il faut que tu choisisses entre la côte sud (minimum 2 jours pour faire ballestas et Nazca, puis voyage à Aréquipa, et en courant) et Puerto Maldonado (minimum 3 jours comme prévu dans ton programme) - ven19 : une journée pour faire puno et le lac Titicaca, c'est possible, mais très rapide, tu n'auras que le temps de faire une courte excursion aux ìles Uros, si tu peux gagner un jour sur le lac, une nuit sur l'ìle d'Amantani est une très belle expérience. Il est dommage d'aller à Cuzco et de ne pas faire la vallée sacrée (Pisac, Ollantaytambo, Chinchero...) Mais tu peux le faire par exemple à ton retour de Puerto maldonado : en prenant un avion tòt le matin, tu arrives tòt à Cuzco, et tu as la journée pour aller à Pisac, puis Ollantaytambo, et de là tu continues sur le machu Picchu.
Il va falloir que tu fasses des choix dans ton parcours : la Côte au sud de Lima OU Puerto maldonado OU le Canyon du Colca, mais il faut que tu gagnes des jours, ton parcours tel qu'il est décrit n'est pas réalisable.
Si tu veux avoir une idée de circuit intéressant que tu peux faire en 2 semaines au Pérou, tu peux faire un tour à la page suivante : http://www.voyage-tourisme-au-perou.com/tourisme_temps.html Consulte aussi les autres posts sur des parcours au Pérou, il y en a beaucoup sur le forum, remodèle ton parcours, puis poste le de nouveau pour que l'on puisse t'aider à l'améliorer.
Bon courage
il y a plusieurs jours dans ton itinéraire qui vont être difficilement réalisables.
- dim14 : tu ne peux pas faire dans la même journée Lima - Ballestas - Nazca - Aréquipa! A mon avis, vu que ton voyage va être très court, il vaudrait mieux que tu prennes un avion Lima - Aréquipa, ou alors, laisse tomber Puerto maldonado, mais il faut que tu choisisses entre la côte sud (minimum 2 jours pour faire ballestas et Nazca, puis voyage à Aréquipa, et en courant) et Puerto Maldonado (minimum 3 jours comme prévu dans ton programme) - ven19 : une journée pour faire puno et le lac Titicaca, c'est possible, mais très rapide, tu n'auras que le temps de faire une courte excursion aux ìles Uros, si tu peux gagner un jour sur le lac, une nuit sur l'ìle d'Amantani est une très belle expérience. Il est dommage d'aller à Cuzco et de ne pas faire la vallée sacrée (Pisac, Ollantaytambo, Chinchero...) Mais tu peux le faire par exemple à ton retour de Puerto maldonado : en prenant un avion tòt le matin, tu arrives tòt à Cuzco, et tu as la journée pour aller à Pisac, puis Ollantaytambo, et de là tu continues sur le machu Picchu.
Il va falloir que tu fasses des choix dans ton parcours : la Côte au sud de Lima OU Puerto maldonado OU le Canyon du Colca, mais il faut que tu gagnes des jours, ton parcours tel qu'il est décrit n'est pas réalisable.
Si tu veux avoir une idée de circuit intéressant que tu peux faire en 2 semaines au Pérou, tu peux faire un tour à la page suivante : http://www.voyage-tourisme-au-perou.com/tourisme_temps.html Consulte aussi les autres posts sur des parcours au Pérou, il y en a beaucoup sur le forum, remodèle ton parcours, puis poste le de nouveau pour que l'on puisse t'aider à l'améliorer.
Bon courage
Bonsoir
Je pense que tu peux ameliorer ton circuit pour gagner du temps sur certain point et en "dépenser" un peu plus ailleurs. Tu peux faire ce circuit et limiter les choix à faire Mais une question me vient à l'esprit : pourquoi un sejour si long en selva : tu as 5 jours/4 nuits. Pour Puerto Maldonaldo, c'est trop, le sejour traditionnel est 3jours/2nuits..............A moins que ce soit volontaire et un imperatif........
Si tu veux, je peux t'aider mais en message privé.
los ninos
Je pense que tu peux ameliorer ton circuit pour gagner du temps sur certain point et en "dépenser" un peu plus ailleurs. Tu peux faire ce circuit et limiter les choix à faire Mais une question me vient à l'esprit : pourquoi un sejour si long en selva : tu as 5 jours/4 nuits. Pour Puerto Maldonaldo, c'est trop, le sejour traditionnel est 3jours/2nuits..............A moins que ce soit volontaire et un imperatif........
Si tu veux, je peux t'aider mais en message privé.
los ninos
merci pour ta reponse, a ton avis c'est mieux la côte ou puerto maldonado et la vallée sacree, que dois je privilegier?
Ok donc l'idéal serait de reduire le temps passé à puerto maldonado, d'ailleurs est-ce que ça vaut le coup?
Difficile à dire si la còte est mieux que la selva ... c'est un peu question du goût de chacun.
La côte péruvienne est très désertique, Puerto maldonado, c'est la jungle ... deux univers totalement différents qui n'ont rien à voir l'un avec l'autre.
un séjour à Puerto maldonado te reviendra beaucoup plus cher qu'un passage par la còte et ses différents sites, mais je pense que voir la selva (la forêt amazonienne) est quelque chose d'exceptionnel et de beaucoup plus dépaysant. Si tu en as la possibilité, vas-y, en essayant de choisir un bon lodge, pour que ce séjour soit vraiment inoubliable!!!
La Vallée sacrée est une sorte d'incontournable au Pérou, tous les touristes y passent. Si tu es à Cuzco, il me semble vraiment dommage de ne pas consacrer une journée à visiter ces petits villages. Mais en réduisant ton séjour à Puerto maldonado à 3 jours, tu as largement le temps de faire la vallée sacrée.
La Vallée sacrée est une sorte d'incontournable au Pérou, tous les touristes y passent. Si tu es à Cuzco, il me semble vraiment dommage de ne pas consacrer une journée à visiter ces petits villages. Mais en réduisant ton séjour à Puerto maldonado à 3 jours, tu as largement le temps de faire la vallée sacrée.
ok merci, je pense que je vais supprimer le canon de colca. faut il réserver à l'avance les vols interne et le train pour le machu picchu ou puis je considerer que mi novembre il sera facile de trouver des disponibilites?
Je pense que supprimer le canyon de Colca est dommage, c'est magnifique.
A ta place je ferais effectivement comme suggéré Lima-Arequipa en Avion, tant pis pour Nasca. 1 journée à Arequipa puis 2 jour au Colca via une agence. Ensuite si tu es pas trop short niveau budget, il y a une compagnie de bus privée qui fait Colca Puno en minibus, départ aux alentours de 14h de Chivay (village à l'entrée du canyon de Colca). C'est 50USD par personne il me semble (nous l'avions pris en route donc nous avions négocié le tarif). Cela te fait gagner une journée car tu arrivera à Puno le soir vers 20h (en plus c'est un minibus privé donc moins de risques de se faire piquer ses bagages si on dort). Excursion sur Amantani sympa effectivement si vous parlez espagnol sinon la communication est difficile avec les hôtes.
Il ne faut rater la vallée sacrée sous AUCUN pretexte. A priori 3J/2N c'est suffisant dans la selva donc tu gagne suffisament pour pouvoir passer une journée dans la vallée sacrée.
Plus d'infos et les photos de tous ces coins dans mas signature.
A ta place je ferais effectivement comme suggéré Lima-Arequipa en Avion, tant pis pour Nasca. 1 journée à Arequipa puis 2 jour au Colca via une agence. Ensuite si tu es pas trop short niveau budget, il y a une compagnie de bus privée qui fait Colca Puno en minibus, départ aux alentours de 14h de Chivay (village à l'entrée du canyon de Colca). C'est 50USD par personne il me semble (nous l'avions pris en route donc nous avions négocié le tarif). Cela te fait gagner une journée car tu arrivera à Puno le soir vers 20h (en plus c'est un minibus privé donc moins de risques de se faire piquer ses bagages si on dort). Excursion sur Amantani sympa effectivement si vous parlez espagnol sinon la communication est difficile avec les hôtes.
Il ne faut rater la vallée sacrée sous AUCUN pretexte. A priori 3J/2N c'est suffisant dans la selva donc tu gagne suffisament pour pouvoir passer une journée dans la vallée sacrée.
Plus d'infos et les photos de tous ces coins dans mas signature.
Site avec nos carnets de voyage : http://adelineetjp.jimdo.com
Fin novembre, tu ne devrais pas avoir de problèmes de réservations, ni pour les hotels, ni pour le train pour le Machu Picchu.
Concernant les vols intérieurs, normalement, il ne devrait pas y avoir de problème non plus pour les réserver avec quelques jours d'avance, mais si ton voyage est tout calculé et ton timing un peu juste, il vaut peut-être mieux les réserver d'avance, ça te fera une préocupation de moins sur place. A moins que tu ne veuilles laisser de la place à l'improvisation et à un peu d'aventure au court de ton voyage, alors, ne réserves rien et avance selon le feeling du moment!
Il y a toujours des places disponibles sauf sur le trajet Aguas Calientes - Poroy ( cuzco) où il y a peu de trains et qu'ils sont pris d'assaut par les trekkers du chemin de l'inca en plus des touristes qui sont arrivés le matin.
Il est preferable de faire un A/R sur ollantaytambo et faire le chemin depuis ou vers cuzco en combi ou en bus.
C'est moins cher et au niveau temps c'est equivalent puisqu'il faut faire Poroy - Cuzco en combi ou taxi ( une demie heure de trajet)
Pour les avions , c'est la même chose, ce sont les places les moins chères qui partent en premier.
los ninos
C'est moins cher et au niveau temps c'est equivalent puisqu'il faut faire Poroy - Cuzco en combi ou taxi ( une demie heure de trajet)
Pour les avions , c'est la même chose, ce sont les places les moins chères qui partent en premier.
los ninos
ok merci pour vos précieux conseils, tout a l'air vraiment à faire ça va être dificile de choisir, j'ai encore un peu de temps pour me décider et peut être que sur place ça sera au feeling
Bonjour,
je suis d'accord avec ce qui a ete dit, mais je pense que ca serait plus simple d'aller a Puerto Maldonado une fois que tu a visite la region de Cusco et le Machu. Du coup, tu fais Cusco-Puerto Maldonado puis Puerto Malodonado-Lima.
Bon voyage !
Hali.
Hali a raison, fais en premier Cuzco, Vallée Sacrée, Machu Picchu, puis avion pour Puerto maldonado, 3 jours dans la selva, puis avion de retour direct Puerto Maldonado - lima. Tu gagnes du temps et des trajets en avion.
Bonsoir
pour ton sejour à Puerto, il est préferable de revenir sur cuzco pour 2 raisons:Les billets d'avion ( 1A/R cuzco-PM et 1 Aller simple cuzco-Lima) sont moins chers que de prendre 2 allers simples cuzco-PM et PM-Lima . (environ 80 USD)Si tu couches a ton retour de PM à Cuzco, tu pars en forêt avec le strict minimum sans transporter tes gros sacs en général chargés au retour.los ninos
pour ton sejour à Puerto, il est préferable de revenir sur cuzco pour 2 raisons:Les billets d'avion ( 1A/R cuzco-PM et 1 Aller simple cuzco-Lima) sont moins chers que de prendre 2 allers simples cuzco-PM et PM-Lima . (environ 80 USD)Si tu couches a ton retour de PM à Cuzco, tu pars en forêt avec le strict minimum sans transporter tes gros sacs en général chargés au retour.los ninos
Bonjour,
A mon goût, un voyage trop chargé pour le temps disponible.
Comme d'autres je te conseille de zapper soit la côte (avion jusqu'à Arequipa - de toutes façons faire ce trajet en une journée veut dire que tu ne vas rien visiter ou voir) soit Puerto Maldonado (je ne connais pas). Tu zappes la vallée sacrée et le sites autour de Cuzco, dommage...
A mon goût, un voyage trop chargé pour le temps disponible.
Comme d'autres je te conseille de zapper soit la côte (avion jusqu'à Arequipa - de toutes façons faire ce trajet en une journée veut dire que tu ne vas rien visiter ou voir) soit Puerto Maldonado (je ne connais pas). Tu zappes la vallée sacrée et le sites autour de Cuzco, dommage...
Bonjour:
Je vous conseille le suivant itineraire:
sam13:arrivée lima 18h50, taxi et nuit a l'hotel dim14:bus Paracas(Cruz del Sur - compagnie de bus) Arrivée et dans l' aprés midi visite à la Reserva de Paracas lundi15: Visite Ballestas et bus vers Nazca, Arrivée et survol lignes de Nazca Mardi16: Visite à Cahuachi, Cantalloc ou... et depart vers Arequipa. Arrivée et nuir à Arequipa Mercredi 17: Visite à la Ville Jeudi 18: Colca Vendredi 19: Colca - Bus de Chivay à Puno Samedi20: Visite Uros-Taquile. Bus a Cuzco Dimanche21: Arrivée à Cusco. Visite à la ville Lundi et Mardi: Departe vers Machu Picchu - Mardi nuit à Cusco Mercredi: Vallée Sacrée Jeudi: Vol à Puerto Maldonado - 3 nuits à Puerto et puis vol à Lima. Lundi, Mardi, Mercredi et Jeudi Puerto Pour le transport en bus je vous reccommend la compagnie Cruz del Sur et Star Peru pour le vol de Cuzco - Puerto Maldonado - Lima, reservez l' hôtel en avance surtout à Lima. à Arequipa pour le canyon de Colca je vous reccommende l' agence Pérou Voyage (une compagnie fiable) perou-voyage.com, à Puerto Maldonado le lodge Corto Maltes est propre et sympa, à Cuzco l' hostel Inkari... Bonne chance
sam13:arrivée lima 18h50, taxi et nuit a l'hotel dim14:bus Paracas(Cruz del Sur - compagnie de bus) Arrivée et dans l' aprés midi visite à la Reserva de Paracas lundi15: Visite Ballestas et bus vers Nazca, Arrivée et survol lignes de Nazca Mardi16: Visite à Cahuachi, Cantalloc ou... et depart vers Arequipa. Arrivée et nuir à Arequipa Mercredi 17: Visite à la Ville Jeudi 18: Colca Vendredi 19: Colca - Bus de Chivay à Puno Samedi20: Visite Uros-Taquile. Bus a Cuzco Dimanche21: Arrivée à Cusco. Visite à la ville Lundi et Mardi: Departe vers Machu Picchu - Mardi nuit à Cusco Mercredi: Vallée Sacrée Jeudi: Vol à Puerto Maldonado - 3 nuits à Puerto et puis vol à Lima. Lundi, Mardi, Mercredi et Jeudi Puerto Pour le transport en bus je vous reccommend la compagnie Cruz del Sur et Star Peru pour le vol de Cuzco - Puerto Maldonado - Lima, reservez l' hôtel en avance surtout à Lima. à Arequipa pour le canyon de Colca je vous reccommende l' agence Pérou Voyage (une compagnie fiable) perou-voyage.com, à Puerto Maldonado le lodge Corto Maltes est propre et sympa, à Cuzco l' hostel Inkari... Bonne chance
Au mois de juillet dernier, j'etais au Perou et apres l'Inca trail et le Machu, je suis restee sur Cusco pour visiter la Valle Sacree pendant que mes amis partaient a Puerto Maldonado. Nous nous sommes retrouves a Lima et ils n'ont pas eu de probleme avec les sacs.
Pour ce qui concerne les prix, en s'y prenant a l'avance, la difference n'est pas exhorbitante et l'aspect pratique l'emporte largement. En tout cas pour nous, c'etait impec !
J'ajoute que d'un point de vue decouverte du pays, visiter la Vallee Sacree apres/avant le Machu Picchu est bien plus coherent que d'inserer la jungle amazonienne - qui est un tout autre univers - au milieu. Mais ca, c'est bien sur un avis perso...
Hali.
OK, donc il faudrait zapper le lac titicaca, je suivrais le conseil de mettre puerto maldonado à la fin et de faire le vol de retour pm à lima.
Bonjour,
Chacun sa vision mais le lac Tiicaca n'est certainement pas ce que je zapperai. Maintenant, il y avait dans ce nom tellement de magie et de rêves d'enfant, pour moi, que cela aurait été impensable !
Chacun sa vision mais le lac Tiicaca n'est certainement pas ce que je zapperai. Maintenant, il y avait dans ce nom tellement de magie et de rêves d'enfant, pour moi, que cela aurait été impensable !
Oui, moi aussi, je ne le zapperai pas...
Bien sur, tout cela est subjectif, mais a tout prendre, je laisserais de cote la cote (Ballestas, Nazca, etc...) pour aller directement de Lima a Arequipa afin de visiter la ville et notamment Santa Catalina le matin puis aller dans la campagne environnante l'apres-midi (il existe un tour en bus qui part a 14h). 2 jours pour le Canyon del Colca, puis Puno. 2 jours sur le lac (Taquile, nuit sur Amantani et Uros le lendemain en rentrant sur Puno). Cusco, le Machu et la Vallee Sacree puis Puerto Maldonado et retour sur Lima.
Du coup, ca permet de voir un large eventail de ce que peut offrir ce magnifique pays en termes de paysages en un minimum de temps, sans bien sur la cote, mais quand il faut faire des choix...
Bon courage,
Hali.
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Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé





