Itinéraire Espagne-Maroc-Portugal
by Ptitam
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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je cherche conseil d un itineraire pour un road trip espagne maroc portugal, surtout concernant les villes proches de detroit de gibraltar, le bateau (prix avec une voiture et horaires) et les villes ou endroits incontournables du portugal... Suis tout ouie!!!
W-Am
salut!
pour le portugal, je te conseille vivement lisbonne, une ville merveilleusement belle!! c'est vraiment La ville à voir! le nord je ne connais pas donc je ne peux te conseiller! sinon, le sud est pas mal non plus...
pour un itinéraire tu pourrais par exemple commencer par le nord de l'espagne ( la coruna, saint jacques de compostel) puis descendre vers lisbonne ( en passant vers les grandes villes dont porto! j'en ais entendu parler, ca serait pas mal! ) pour ensuite aller vers le sud du portugal (pas mal de belles plages à voir!) puis partir vers tenerife (je sais qu'il y a des bateaux qui partent de la!) et pour le bateaux algesiras (ville qui ne vaut pas vraiment le cout de s'y arreter) mais je crois qu'il y a plus de départs de là! sinon, gibraltar est intéressante à voir, et tu peux le faire en une après-midi... Ronda est un petit village à environ 2 heures d'algésiras, ... super beau! dans la montagne!!
De là, tu pars vers le maroc (j'ai visité tanger, cassablanca, marrackech (plus un petit village dans les montagnes vraiment sympas) et de la, j'ai repris le bus vers fes puis tanger.
pour l'espagne, je te conseille séville, grenade, cordoue, ... madrid n'est pas indispensable et barcelone est sympas mais assez européenne! si tu veux etre dépaysé c'est l'andalousie qu'il faut voir! j'y ais vécu un an, et j'ai vraiment adoré l'atmosphère, les traditions, etc...
j'espere que je t'aurais un peu aider dans le choix de ton itinéraire! si tu as des questions n'hésites pas!
dorothée
Merci Dorothee pour toutes ces infos... Pourrais tu me donner ton avis sur l itineraire suivant (a savoir qu on part en voiture pour 3 semaines) ;
Lyon-Barcelone (1 ou 2 jours a Barcelone) Barcelon-Valence (1 ou 2 jours a Valence) Valence- Grenade/Ville andalouse (2 ou 3 jours Andalousie) Andalousie-Maroc (8 jours au maroc, c est surtout la que j ai besoin de tes conseils ; quelles villes a voir en priorite? surtout rapport trajets en voiture, peut on descendre jusqu a Agadir? ) Maroc- Portugal (8 jours du sud pour les plages jusqu au nord en passant par Lisbonne et peut etre Porto si y a le temps...)
Si tu peux me dire ce que tu en penses, si ce n est pas trop concentre? a savoir qu on a vraiment envie de bouger, faire de la plage un peu mais pas trop, on veut en voir le maximum et gerer les trajets en voitures...
Merci!
Lyon-Barcelone (1 ou 2 jours a Barcelone) Barcelon-Valence (1 ou 2 jours a Valence) Valence- Grenade/Ville andalouse (2 ou 3 jours Andalousie) Andalousie-Maroc (8 jours au maroc, c est surtout la que j ai besoin de tes conseils ; quelles villes a voir en priorite? surtout rapport trajets en voiture, peut on descendre jusqu a Agadir? ) Maroc- Portugal (8 jours du sud pour les plages jusqu au nord en passant par Lisbonne et peut etre Porto si y a le temps...)
Si tu peux me dire ce que tu en penses, si ce n est pas trop concentre? a savoir qu on a vraiment envie de bouger, faire de la plage un peu mais pas trop, on veut en voir le maximum et gerer les trajets en voitures...
Merci!
W-Am
salut
et bien... c'est pas mal comme itinéraire! pour barcelone, deux jours c'est très bien et c'est largement suffisant pour voir le principal de la ville... pour valence je ne connais pas, ... un ou deux jours à grenade, ... il faut absolument voir l'alahmbra, (c'est incroyablement beau (surtout la nuit, plus cher mais superrrrrrrrrbee!) et se balader dans les petites ruelles de la ville!
de là, tu peux aller à séville (et oui!!j'adore séville!! ) en une journée, c'est faisable! ( à voir, le quartier et le pont de triana, le quartier de santa cruz, la cathédrale, ...)
pour le maroc, j'avais fait le tour en 7 jours en bus, donc en voiture tu auras, je pense plus de temps pour tout voir! en fait, j'avais fait tanger cassablanca en bus (environ 6 h) j'y étais rester que trés peu de temps car je voulais avant tout voir marrackech (j'ai vraiment adoré!!! ) j'y suis restée deux, trois jours dont une après midi dans le petit village montagnard (setti fatma dans la vallée de l'ourika, c'est superbe et assez dépaysant !)
on m'avait conseiller essaouira ou encore ouarzazate mais je n'avais pas eu le temps. Pour fes, on a mis 9 heures en bus et oui!!! c'est super long, mais en voiture, ya peut etre moyen de mettre moins longtps. En fait, si tu t'arretes pas trop longtps à tanger, ya moyen. tanger est bien, mais le sud du maroc est beaucoup mieux!
par contre, pour cassablanca-marrackech, je l'ai fait en train mais je me souviens plus des horaires, je sais seulement que c'était un train de nuit!
à vue de nez, pour agadir, tu mettrai peut etre moins de dix heures!
dorothée
dorothée
je viens de voir que tu étais parti en république tchèque.. je vais au mois de juillet à prague, des conseils? des endroits à voir absolument? j'y suis seulement pour trois jours, c'est pas trop court pour voir la ville?
merci
Salut Dorothee!
Merci bcp pour toutes ces infos, je t enverrai une carte postale😉!!
Je suis partis 8 jours en republique tcheque mi mai, j ai passe 3 jours a Prague et le reste a Olomouc (la 3 eme plus gde ville de R.T, je crois).
3 jours a Prague, c amplement suffisant pour visiter...car l architecture de la ville est vraiment magnifique, presque envoutante. D inratable, il y a le pont saint charles, Le chateau et les musees, (F.Kafka, Mucha...).
J etais avec des personnes qui vivaient en R.T et ils me disaient qu a prague il n y avait pas tant de choses a voir... A la limite, le seul conseil que je pourrai te donner, c est de te ballader, de flaner un peu partout, en 3 jours, tu auras tout vu. Biensur, il y a une quantite de touristes effroyables (anglais, francais) donc c est mieux d etre a Prague en semaine si tu peux.
Par contre, tu dois savoir que la bas, tu ne vis de quasiment rien, super restos pour 4E, tu depenses sans compter dans un bar et a la fin, tu te rend compte que tu as depenser 5E!! C est la meme chose pour les fringues, les chaussures, les clopes, a bon entendeur...!
Voila j espere que cette reponse te conviendra!!
W-Am
Merci Beaucoup pour les infos! j'ai vraiment hate d'y etre! cependant j'y serais du samedi au mardi!! tant pis pour le flux de touristes!! mais je ne peux y aller une autre période!début de semaine je suis en pologne chez mes grands parents.
sinon, d'autres infos: pour l'espagne (surtout andalousie), pour les sorties: je te conseille soit le quartier de l'alfalfa pour les petits cafés, l'alameda où tu peux y voir les fameux 'botillons' (des centaines de personnes voir plus se réunisse un peu partout dans la ville pour bavarder boire, etc... ) dans les cafés, tu peux boire une biere ou un "tinto de verano" (vin rouge mélangé à de la limonade, trés bon ;) ) pour environ 1 euro ou un peu plus! les tapas!!! à séville, c'est l' "ensaladilla" que tu dois gouter, la meilleure c'est avec les gambas, ... il y a un endroit pas mal à voir c'est vers la calle san eloy (pas sur, mais c'est une rue commerciale dans le centre)
au maroc: tu peux loger pour environ 5 euros, à marrackech par exemple, ya pas mal d'hotel, d'auberges ou tu peux aller pour moins de 10euros la nuit! mais comme tu y vas pour la période estivale, vaut peut etre mieux réserver avant! (j'y étais aller en février, presque pas trop de touriste et pas besoin de réserver d'hotels!) et pour manger c'est la meme chose!
pour le bateau: http://www.cemar.it/dest/ferries_maroc.htm
www.euromer.net / www.trasmediterranea.com /
bon voyage
bon voyage
Bonjour,
J'ai visité le Nord du Portugal, il me semble intéressant de passer au moins une journée à Porto, qui est une ville pleine de charme.
Sinon, j'ai fait Espagne-Maroc en voiture. La traversée Algéciras-Ceuta nous avait couté environ 180 euros aller-retour 2 pers + voiture. Nous étions allé à Fès (une journée de route Ceut-Fés), et la ville vaut vraiment le coup. J'ai cent fois préféré Fès çà Marrakech, moins touristique, trés magique. Prés de Fès il y a Meknès et les ruines romaines de Volubilis. Agadir est une station balnéaire sans autre intérêt que plage et baignade.
Bon voyage!
Merci Virginie, je sais maintenant a quoi m en tenir pour mon voyage, j ai toutes les infos que je voulais, merci a ceux qui ont repondu, dans ma tete je suis deja parti alors bon ete a toi Viriginie et a tous les autres meme ceux qui n ont pas de vacances (pk y en a et il ne faut pas les oublier, que dire...pas de chance!! une prochaine fois peut etre!!)
Merci encore vous tous, bonnes vacances!! excellent site!!!
Amaury
W-Am
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We’ll be staying three nights in Salzburg.
Then we’ll head to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, where we’ll stay for five nights.
Visiting Munich and Salzburg isn’t too tricky.
Once in Garmisch, we’re planning a day in Innsbruck, a day for Neuschwanstein Castle, and the rest is still up in the air.
What’s really got me stumped is that we’d love to see Königssee Lake—everyone says it’s a must-see.
We’d also like to visit the Eagle’s Nest (Kehlsteinhaus), where the landscapes are supposedly stunning.
This would either be a round trip while we’re in Salzburg or on the way between Salzburg and Garmisch, but I’m guessing it’s impossible to do the drive from Salzburg to Garmisch, the Eagle’s Nest, *and* Königssee Lake all in one day.
Plus, the Alpine route between Salzburg and Garmisch seems prettier than the highway.
But honestly, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with the planning.
We should’ve added a stop between Salzburg and Garmisch, but the hotels are already booked.
Thanks for any advice on the itinerary and visits!
Another question: How far in advance should we book Neuschwanstein, Königssee, and the Eagle’s Nest in May?
Thanks so much in advance for your tips and ideas!
hi
I’ll be in Copenhagen this coming May for a few days.
Do you have any recommendations for things to visit?
If I had to pick one castle to visit, which one would it be?
I’m torn between: Rosenborg Castle, Amalienborg Palace, or Frederiksborg and Charlottenborg Palaces
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I’ll be in Copenhagen this coming May for a few days.
Do you have any recommendations for things to visit?
If I had to pick one castle to visit, which one would it be?
I’m torn between: Rosenborg Castle, Amalienborg Palace, or Frederiksborg and Charlottenborg Palaces
Any suggestions?
Thanks
hi
I’m wondering if anyone can give me some info on how to get from Mallorca to Menorca.
Since flights are cheaper to Mallorca, I’d like to go that way.
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
Hi there, we’re a couple of bikers planning a trip to Majorca in June 2026, and I’d love to organize a half-day or full-day boat or catamaran outing. Which coast do you think is the nicest for this, and do you have any suggestions or personal experiences to share? Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there are any works in progress at Torcello, and if so, what type of works and how long they’re expected to last?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’m sharing my draft itinerary with you because I just booked our flight tickets, and I feel like it’s quite late in the season. So, I’d like to be sure about my stops before reserving the hotels. I’ll be traveling alone with my two adult children. We want to prioritize outdoor walks, avoid too many indoor visits (both for budget and preference), and not spend too much time on the road.
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
Hello,
we’re a couple planning a 2-week road trip this August, with a must-stop (about 3 days on Skye). Any route suggestions? Hotel recommendations? Photo spots?
Hello,
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
Hi there,
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks