Avis sur itinéraire de seize jours en Italie
by Stephan352
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous partons pour l'Italie pour le 1er juin jusqu'au 16 juin prochain. Nous aimerions savoir si notre itinéraire est intéressant, voir même est-il surchargé ? Arrivé le 2 juin à Rome pour trois jours, puis départ vers Florence en passant d'abord par Tivoli, Pienza, Montalcino, Siena et ce, dans la même journée; arrivée à Florence pour 2 jours. Ensuite direction Venise pour 2 jours, puis descende vers le sud via Pesaro, puis Assise pour 1 journée et le lendemain vers Capri pour 1 journée, Sorrento pour la côte pendant 3 jours et au final 1 jour à Rome pour le retour. Le voyage sera fait en voiture, sauf à Rome. Merci à tous de vos commentaires ou suggestions...
Note les hôtels sont déjà réservés à Rome, Florence, Venise, Assise, Capri et Sorrento.
S Latour
Bonjour,
je ne saurais vous dire si votre itinéraire est trop chargé, mais nous avons planifié un séjour en Italie aussi.... époustoufflant que le votre pour le mois de septembre. Nous arrivons à Milan, 1 nuit, puis départ pour Vicenza en passant par Verone, 2 nuits à Vincenza et 1 en montagne à Asiago. Ensuite direction Venise, pour 3 nuits, incluant 1 visite aux Iles Murano, Burano et Torcello; ensuite nous descendons vers le centre après 1 arrêt à Bologne et Parme pour se rendre à San Gimignano, en Toscane pour 3 nuits, de là, nous irons à Pise, Florence et Sienne. Ensuite nous irons à Rome pour 5 nuits dont une journée où nous descendrons à Capri et la côte d'amalfie....ouf. Voilà notre itinéraire.
Bon voyage
Chantal
Nous partons le 17 septembre avec un trajet similaire à Stephan mais sur 25 jours.
Jour 1 : depart de Montréal jour 2 :arrivée à Rome ( coucher 3 nuits au lac Trasimeno) Jour 3-4: Assise et Cortona - circuit Montalcino-Montepulciano... Jour 5 : Vers Venise avec arrêt à San Marino ( coucher à Pounta Sabbioni 4 nuits) Jour 6-7-8 : Venise et ses iles de la lagune Jour 9: Florence (coucher à Montopoli pour 6 nuits) jour 10 : Pise-Lucca- Vinci jour 11 : Cinque-terre jour 12: Sienne- San Gimignano jour 13 : route du Chianti jour 14 : Florence ou autres jour 15 : vers Sorrento avec arrêt à Tivoli (coucher à Sorrento pour 4 nuits) jour 16 : Pompéi- Vésuve jour 17 : Capri jour 18 :Cote Amalfitaine jour 19 : Paestrum et retour à Rome ( coucher 5 nuits ) jour 20-21-22-23 : Rome jour 24 : départ de Rome jour 25 : arrivée à Montréal
Nous louons une voiture sauf pour Rome Nous couchons dans des mobile home sur campings et dans un couvent à Rome
Jour 1 : depart de Montréal jour 2 :arrivée à Rome ( coucher 3 nuits au lac Trasimeno) Jour 3-4: Assise et Cortona - circuit Montalcino-Montepulciano... Jour 5 : Vers Venise avec arrêt à San Marino ( coucher à Pounta Sabbioni 4 nuits) Jour 6-7-8 : Venise et ses iles de la lagune Jour 9: Florence (coucher à Montopoli pour 6 nuits) jour 10 : Pise-Lucca- Vinci jour 11 : Cinque-terre jour 12: Sienne- San Gimignano jour 13 : route du Chianti jour 14 : Florence ou autres jour 15 : vers Sorrento avec arrêt à Tivoli (coucher à Sorrento pour 4 nuits) jour 16 : Pompéi- Vésuve jour 17 : Capri jour 18 :Cote Amalfitaine jour 19 : Paestrum et retour à Rome ( coucher 5 nuits ) jour 20-21-22-23 : Rome jour 24 : départ de Rome jour 25 : arrivée à Montréal
Nous louons une voiture sauf pour Rome Nous couchons dans des mobile home sur campings et dans un couvent à Rome
Gisdan
Voyage bien différent du nôtre!! Sommes allés seulement au nord de Rome en 26 jours
Arrivés à Milan (3 nuits), direction les lacs Majeur et Come au nord (2 nuits), route avec quelques arrêts avant Vérone (2 nuits) puis Venise incluant les iles Burano et Murano (5nuits). Parme (2 nuits), Florence (7nuits) incluant des visites à Pise et Lucca dans la même journée, Sienne une journée, San Giminiano et d'autres petits villages une autre journée. Répit à Porto Ercole, petit port de pêche avant de rejoindre Rome (5 nuits). Beaucoup de choses à voir à chaque endroit. Il est rare que nous demeurions seulement une nuit au même endroit. Quand on arrive en milieu de journée, on n'a que le p.m. et la soirée pour explorer... et il y a parfois de bonnes files d'attente pour les visites.
Il faut calculer que ce n'est pas toujours aussi rapide qu'ici sur les petites routes. Beaucoup de trafic sur des routes en serpentins... En Toscane il faut parfois 1 heure pour faire 30 km.
Un petit conseil: il y a eu des histoires de contraventions reçues par la poste par des touristes en Italie. Il y a des rues à circulation limitée dans les villes et le tout est surveillé par caméra.
Vous pouvez voir les posts suivants.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1520595;search_string=contraventions;
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1555804;search_string=contraventions;
Bon voyage, l'Italie est magnifique!
Arrivés à Milan (3 nuits), direction les lacs Majeur et Come au nord (2 nuits), route avec quelques arrêts avant Vérone (2 nuits) puis Venise incluant les iles Burano et Murano (5nuits). Parme (2 nuits), Florence (7nuits) incluant des visites à Pise et Lucca dans la même journée, Sienne une journée, San Giminiano et d'autres petits villages une autre journée. Répit à Porto Ercole, petit port de pêche avant de rejoindre Rome (5 nuits). Beaucoup de choses à voir à chaque endroit. Il est rare que nous demeurions seulement une nuit au même endroit. Quand on arrive en milieu de journée, on n'a que le p.m. et la soirée pour explorer... et il y a parfois de bonnes files d'attente pour les visites.
Il faut calculer que ce n'est pas toujours aussi rapide qu'ici sur les petites routes. Beaucoup de trafic sur des routes en serpentins... En Toscane il faut parfois 1 heure pour faire 30 km.
Un petit conseil: il y a eu des histoires de contraventions reçues par la poste par des touristes en Italie. Il y a des rues à circulation limitée dans les villes et le tout est surveillé par caméra.
Vous pouvez voir les posts suivants.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1520595;search_string=contraventions;
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1555804;search_string=contraventions;
Bon voyage, l'Italie est magnifique!
On n'a jamais fini d'apprendre... aussi continuons à voyager
Dommage de manquer Pise et San Gimignano... Par contre, Sienne nécessitera peut-être un peu plus de temps que prévu... Et dans les 3 jours jours à Sorrente, ne pas oublier d'aller faire un tour à Pompei... Sinon, cela ne ma paraît pas très surchargé...
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Salut!
Je suis allé en Italie l'an passé. J'ai tout fait en voiture sauf Rome aussi.
Je dirais à prime abord que tu vas faire beaucoup de voiture et que tu vas manquer beaucoup de choses, mais tu vas en voir de superbe aussi3 jours à Rome, il en manque mais bien organisé, tu verras la moitié des choses importantes.Rome à Florence, faut compter 3hres, sans compter le traffic et autres niaiseries. alors arrêter à Tivoli, Pienza, Montalcino Siena dans la même journée, je dirais que c'est impossible. Je dirais, sois Pienza-Montalcino-Montepulciano, ou Siena ET San Gimignano dans la même journée. Si tu veux tout faire, tu iras partout mais ne verras rien.Florence Venise un autre 3 hres de route. je ne suis pas allé à Venise.Assise à Sorrento, environ 4:30-5hres de route. Prendre le bateau vers capri, peut prendre un peu de temps, dépendant de ton timing avec les horaires. Donc une autre journée perdu en voyagement, même si c'est beau.
Disons que c'est du chemin en Ta..!
Sur la côte, Amalfi et Ravello peuvent se faire la même journée. Positano est superbe. Par contre tu manques le vésuve, Pompéi, Herculanum qui sont extraordinaires. Je dirais que ton itinéraire demande 2 à 3 voyages, ou 1 mois.
J'ai passé 6 jours sur la côte amalfitaine, 6 en Toscane. Sur la côte, il m'a manqué disons une journée pour voir Paestum que je n'ai pas vu, mais j'aurais passé 2 autres semaines juste en Toscane tellement que c'est beau.
Bon voyage à toi!
Merci, Nous prenons note de vos remarques à tous. Nous allons prévoir un changement d'itinéraire, s'assurer de voir Pise et Pompéi. Toutefois Claude65, est-il possible de visiter dans la même journée Montalcino, Siena et San Gimignano ? Nous sommes des voyageurs qui se lèvent tôt et se couche tard; nous partons toujours vers les 7:00am pour les visites des milieux urbains... très pratique. Comment est le stationnement dans les villages ou petites villes ? As-tu des idées ou il faut être patient pour s'en trouver ? Merci...
S Latour
Salut Stéphane, quelques commentaires:Le problème de pise, bien que merveilleux, est qu'il vous ajouter encore du voyagement, étant à une heure de Florence. Faudra donc couper une demi à une journée à Florence. Vous pouvez tout de même demeurer là et faire un aller-retour. 2hres à Pise est en masseMontalcino(2hres au moins), Siena au moins une demi à 3/4 de journée, Sangimignano, une demi journée. Donc oui c'est possible mais faudra vraiment partir tôt!Le stationnement dans les villages et très facile. Il y a toujours des endroits prévus à cet effet.C'est plus difficile dans les grandes villes. Prenez effectivement garde à Florence, j'ai moi aussi un ticket de 92€ que j'ai reçu 6 mois plus tard!
Voici un post de photos qui vous aidera peut-être à prendre des décisions sur certaines destinations:
http://picasaweb.google.ca/claudecyr65/Italie2007?authkey=hNgyMRZLs54
Il en manque beaucoup, mais ça donne une idée.Prévoyez au moins 1/2 journée à Pompéi si vous aimez un l'histoire et les ruines. C'est fascinant. S'il reste du temps, allez en haut du Vésuve, c'est tout près et superbe.
Merci encore Claude65, surtout pour les photos c'est bon pour le moral...
Comment as-tu traversé pour aller à Capri, en ferry ou tu as laissé ta voiture à Sorrento ? Capri est-elle visité à pieds ?
S Latour
Salut Stéphane, pour Capri, tu laisses ta voiture à Sorrento et tu prends le Ferry.
Capri se fait à pied. Tu peux prendre un bus ou taxi pour Anacapri, et ne manque pas là-haut de prendre le téléphérique qui même plus haut. La vue est à couper le souufle. On parle aussi de la grotte dans l'eau que je n'ai pas vu qui semble t-il est extraordinaire. J'avais fait celle de Furore, à quelques minutes de Amalfi. Si tu fais celle-là, tu n'as qu'à prendre un tour de bateau à Amalfi qui te mènes à la grotte de Furore.
Ciao!
jai fait un voyage en italie de 11jour et jai vu verone(tres belle ville), venise, florence (coup de coeur), assise, pompei, rome, naple
votre voyage me semble vraiment interessant la seul chose jaurais peut etre a dire... pompei quand tu sera a rome pourrais etre une tres belle escale nous on la fait on avait trois jour a rome don une journer ou on a ete a pompei et arreter a naple... sinon... 2jour a florence a mon avis c definitivement pas asser.. jai passer 2jour la bas mais j'en aurais passer plus d'une semaine si jaurais pu
jespere que vous aller aprecier votre voyage.. l'italie cest vraiment beau riche en histoire et en culture
votre voyage me semble vraiment interessant la seul chose jaurais peut etre a dire... pompei quand tu sera a rome pourrais etre une tres belle escale nous on la fait on avait trois jour a rome don une journer ou on a ete a pompei et arreter a naple... sinon... 2jour a florence a mon avis c definitivement pas asser.. jai passer 2jour la bas mais j'en aurais passer plus d'une semaine si jaurais pu
jespere que vous aller aprecier votre voyage.. l'italie cest vraiment beau riche en histoire et en culture
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Day 4: Morning trip to TAORMINA, visit the town Day 5: Alcantara Gorge (day trip) + more time in Taormina
Day 6: Trip to SYRACUSE, visit Ortigia Day 7: Ortigia Day 8: NOTO (day trip) (or another Baroque town?) Day 9: Syracuse Archaeological Park + more time in Ortigia (or leave for Enna?)
Day 10: Transport via Enna? TO BE RESOLVED (long, 2 or 3 changes, limited accommodation in Enna...)
Day 11: AGRIGENTO: town and Scala dei Turchi (optional) Day 12: Valley of the Temples + archaeological museum
Day 13: Departure for TRAPANI (4h), afternoon: town (+ salt flats?) Day 14: Segesta (day trip) + town/Erice Day 15: Monte Cofano Nature Reserve (hike + summit) (day trip) Day 16: Zingaro Nature Park (coastal route out, ridge route back) (day trip)
Day 17: Departure for the AEGADIAN ISLANDS: Levanzo and Favignana (bike), overnight if possible Day 18: Egadi Islands
Day 19: Departure for PALERMO + first visits Day 20: The city Day 21: The city (Monreale?) Day 22: Options: - Capo Gallo hike (3.5h round trip) (via Mondello) - Cefalù (45 min by train) Day 23: Return flight
I’d love to get your thoughts on the following itinerary (late May). I like to take my time in ruins and museums, and beaches don’t interest me. I’ll be staying in hostels and using public transport. Do you see any major omissions or things that aren’t worth it? Thanks!
Day 1: Arrival in CATANIA Day 2: Catania – visit (fish market, cathedral, Biscarri Palace, etc.) Day 3: Mount Etna (day trip)
Day 4: Morning trip to TAORMINA, visit the town Day 5: Alcantara Gorge (day trip) + more time in Taormina
Day 6: Trip to SYRACUSE, visit Ortigia Day 7: Ortigia Day 8: NOTO (day trip) (or another Baroque town?) Day 9: Syracuse Archaeological Park + more time in Ortigia (or leave for Enna?)
Day 10: Transport via Enna? TO BE RESOLVED (long, 2 or 3 changes, limited accommodation in Enna...)
Day 11: AGRIGENTO: town and Scala dei Turchi (optional) Day 12: Valley of the Temples + archaeological museum
Day 13: Departure for TRAPANI (4h), afternoon: town (+ salt flats?) Day 14: Segesta (day trip) + town/Erice Day 15: Monte Cofano Nature Reserve (hike + summit) (day trip) Day 16: Zingaro Nature Park (coastal route out, ridge route back) (day trip)
Day 17: Departure for the AEGADIAN ISLANDS: Levanzo and Favignana (bike), overnight if possible Day 18: Egadi Islands
Day 19: Departure for PALERMO + first visits Day 20: The city Day 21: The city (Monreale?) Day 22: Options: - Capo Gallo hike (3.5h round trip) (via Mondello) - Cefalù (45 min by train) Day 23: Return flight
Hello,
We’re heading to Bavaria from May 13 to 23, with a side trip to Austria.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Brussels-Munich
Day 2: Munich
Day 3: Munich and departure for Salzburg
We’ll be staying three nights in Salzburg.
Then we’ll head to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, where we’ll stay for five nights.
Visiting Munich and Salzburg isn’t too tricky.
Once in Garmisch, we’re planning a day in Innsbruck, a day for Neuschwanstein Castle, and the rest is still up in the air.
What’s really got me stumped is that we’d love to see Königssee Lake—everyone says it’s a must-see.
We’d also like to visit the Eagle’s Nest (Kehlsteinhaus), where the landscapes are supposedly stunning.
This would either be a round trip while we’re in Salzburg or on the way between Salzburg and Garmisch, but I’m guessing it’s impossible to do the drive from Salzburg to Garmisch, the Eagle’s Nest, *and* Königssee Lake all in one day.
Plus, the Alpine route between Salzburg and Garmisch seems prettier than the highway.
But honestly, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with the planning.
We should’ve added a stop between Salzburg and Garmisch, but the hotels are already booked.
Thanks for any advice on the itinerary and visits!
Another question: How far in advance should we book Neuschwanstein, Königssee, and the Eagle’s Nest in May?
Thanks so much in advance for your tips and ideas!
hi
I’ll be in Copenhagen this coming May for a few days.
Do you have any recommendations for things to visit?
If I had to pick one castle to visit, which one would it be?
I’m torn between: Rosenborg Castle, Amalienborg Palace, or Frederiksborg and Charlottenborg Palaces
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I’ll be in Copenhagen this coming May for a few days.
Do you have any recommendations for things to visit?
If I had to pick one castle to visit, which one would it be?
I’m torn between: Rosenborg Castle, Amalienborg Palace, or Frederiksborg and Charlottenborg Palaces
Any suggestions?
Thanks
hi
I’m wondering if anyone can give me some info on how to get from Mallorca to Menorca.
Since flights are cheaper to Mallorca, I’d like to go that way.
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
Hi there, we’re a couple of bikers planning a trip to Majorca in June 2026, and I’d love to organize a half-day or full-day boat or catamaran outing. Which coast do you think is the nicest for this, and do you have any suggestions or personal experiences to share? Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
We’ll be staying in London for 3 nights in September.
Could you recommend a hotel near a tube station, at a good price, with fairly spacious rooms?
Thanks! 🌸
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there are any works in progress at Torcello, and if so, what type of works and how long they’re expected to last?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’m sharing my draft itinerary with you because I just booked our flight tickets, and I feel like it’s quite late in the season. So, I’d like to be sure about my stops before reserving the hotels. I’ll be traveling alone with my two adult children. We want to prioritize outdoor walks, avoid too many indoor visits (both for budget and preference), and not spend too much time on the road.
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
D1: Arrival at 9 AM in Malaga, day in Malaga and overnight stay D2: Head straight to Nerja (1-hour drive) and spend the night there D3: Head straight to Granada (1.5-hour drive), spend the day and night there D4: Granada. Visit the Alhambra (Nasrid Palaces tour at 5 PM) and spend the night D5: Head to Ronda (2.5-hour drive) and spend the night D6: White Villages and overnight in Ronda D7: Head straight to the Costa del Sol (e.g., Estepona), spend the day and night there D8: Return to Malaga to catch our flight
There you go! This itinerary takes into account that we’d like to do a circuit starting from Seville in a few years. That said, it’d be a shame to miss something doable from Malaga.
Questions: Since the Alhambra visit is only at 5 PM, and we’d already have the day to explore Granada, would arriving the day before be a mistake? Or should we skip this day and dedicate it elsewhere (Costa del Sol? Head toward Tabernas?)? The old town appeals to me, but maybe the Sacromonte neighborhood isn’t essential... Same question for Ronda: should we dedicate a full day to it, or combine Ronda and the White Villages in one day? Note that we love wandering around villages outside, so that might answer my question! :)
Final question: Is it better to rent the car at Malaga Airport or in the city? If we rent at the airport, we’d need a hotel with parking, which doesn’t seem easy. Or stay outside the city and park for free near the center if possible? I’ve read comments about taking a taxi to Malaga and then picking up the rental car at the airport the next morning. The taxi would really need to be affordable...
Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions for visits during this little circuit. Have a great day, everyone! Christine
Hello,
we’re a couple planning a 2-week road trip this August, with a must-stop (about 3 days on Skye). Any route suggestions? Hotel recommendations? Photo spots?
Hello,
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland in September 2026. We’ll be flying from Montreal to London, where we’ll spend three nights. After that, we’ll head to Dublin for a few days and take trains to visit the main attractions. Our ideal plan would be to choose hotels near train stations and take tours to the interesting spots. Would 8 days in Ireland be enough for this kind of trip?
Hi there,
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks
We’re a group of 4 heading out at the end of June for 11 days. I’m just starting my research. We’ll be renting a regular car, not a 4x4. I’m not finding a ton of info on the North. Would love your take on all those kilometers—is there a route that lets us cut out a section? Thanks