3 nuits san francisco 2 nuits Yosemite National Park Child 1 nuit sequoia 1 nuit lake isabella 1 nuit death valley 1 nuit las vegas 1 nuit Zion National Park 1nuit À : Bryce Canyon National Park 1 nuit capitol beef, 2 nuit Moab 1 nuit Monument Valley 1 nuit Page 1 nuit grand canyon 1 nuit kingman 2 nuit los angeles merci thiisa
Avis sur itinéraire de vingt jours dans l'Ouest américain?
by Thiisa1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonsoir
Je souhaite organiser un voyage aux Etats-unis de 20 jours au mois de juillet 2013 donc j'ai le temps d'y penser
Nous partons en famille et nous voulons faire surtout les parcs
et vos avis sur ce parcours
3 nuits san francisco 2 nuits Yosemite National Park Child 1 nuit sequoia 1 nuit lake isabella 1 nuit death valley 1 nuit las vegas 1 nuit Zion National Park 1nuit À : Bryce Canyon National Park 1 nuit capitol beef, 2 nuit Moab 1 nuit Monument Valley 1 nuit Page 1 nuit grand canyon 1 nuit kingman 2 nuit los angeles merci thiisa
3 nuits san francisco 2 nuits Yosemite National Park Child 1 nuit sequoia 1 nuit lake isabella 1 nuit death valley 1 nuit las vegas 1 nuit Zion National Park 1nuit À : Bryce Canyon National Park 1 nuit capitol beef, 2 nuit Moab 1 nuit Monument Valley 1 nuit Page 1 nuit grand canyon 1 nuit kingman 2 nuit los angeles merci thiisa
Thiisa1
Salut
C'est quoi Yosemite National Park Child 😮
Les nuits inutiles: Lake Isabella, Kingman
Il manque une nuit à Moab.
Aller à LA pour seulement 2 nuits je ne trouve pas que ça en vaut la peine. Autant repartir de Phoenix ou Vegas et aérer le reste du circuit (une nuit dispo en plus)
C'est quoi Yosemite National Park Child 😮
Les nuits inutiles: Lake Isabella, Kingman
Il manque une nuit à Moab.
Aller à LA pour seulement 2 nuits je ne trouve pas que ça en vaut la peine. Autant repartir de Phoenix ou Vegas et aérer le reste du circuit (une nuit dispo en plus)
Ola,
Votre séjour vous implique beaucoup de déplacement et du coup peu de temps chaque fois dans les dits parcs. Pour ma part je réduirais le nombre d'étapes pour profiter davantage de chaque parc avec les mêmes commentaires que la réponse précédente Zion et bryce méritent plus qu'une nuit chacun ( perso j'enlèverai Capitol Reef) ; Moab est le centre de beaucoup d'activités 1 nuit supplémentaire ne serait pas du luxe ; le grand canyon est ...Grand il y a beaucoup de chose à y voir et Death Valley peut quant à moi se faire en traversant le parc sans nécessairement y dormir ; C'est sûr que nous avions pas mal plus de temps mais voici ici mon site ou vous pourrez voir notre itinéraire ( section carte et itinéraire) ainsi que quelques photos des endroits visités afin de choisir selon vos affinités les parcs qui vous inspirent le plus . Tel que vous avez concocté votre voyage et si je puis me permettre vous ne ferez surement que les "Points of view" depuis votre véhicule ou la route principale sans nécessairement profiter pleinement du parc en lui même...
C'est une question de choix et de temps j'en suis bien conscient.
Bonne préparation de voyage,
JulienL
Votre séjour vous implique beaucoup de déplacement et du coup peu de temps chaque fois dans les dits parcs. Pour ma part je réduirais le nombre d'étapes pour profiter davantage de chaque parc avec les mêmes commentaires que la réponse précédente Zion et bryce méritent plus qu'une nuit chacun ( perso j'enlèverai Capitol Reef) ; Moab est le centre de beaucoup d'activités 1 nuit supplémentaire ne serait pas du luxe ; le grand canyon est ...Grand il y a beaucoup de chose à y voir et Death Valley peut quant à moi se faire en traversant le parc sans nécessairement y dormir ; C'est sûr que nous avions pas mal plus de temps mais voici ici mon site ou vous pourrez voir notre itinéraire ( section carte et itinéraire) ainsi que quelques photos des endroits visités afin de choisir selon vos affinités les parcs qui vous inspirent le plus . Tel que vous avez concocté votre voyage et si je puis me permettre vous ne ferez surement que les "Points of view" depuis votre véhicule ou la route principale sans nécessairement profiter pleinement du parc en lui même...
C'est une question de choix et de temps j'en suis bien conscient.
Bonne préparation de voyage,
JulienL
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Bonjour
Pour votre itineraire, il ne faut pas raisonner en jours ou en nuits, car les distances sont tres importantes
commencez par rediger selon la maniere suivant : Etape du matin -> trajet en DUREE + Visites en durée -> Etape du soir
Pour la durée des trajets, Google maps Viamichelin ou le mieux à mon avis RAND MC NALLY
Pour votre itineraire, il ne faut pas raisonner en jours ou en nuits, car les distances sont tres importantes
commencez par rediger selon la maniere suivant : Etape du matin -> trajet en DUREE + Visites en durée -> Etape du soir
Pour la durée des trajets, Google maps Viamichelin ou le mieux à mon avis RAND MC NALLY
rebonjour
suite au avis plus haut
nous partons aux Etats-unis de 21 jours au mois du 30 juillet 2013 au 20 aout
Nous partons en famille (parents et 2 ados 17 ans et 14ans
juste un petit avis sur ce parcours (meme si tout est deja reserver )
Arrivee a san francisco 14h N 1 visite N 2 visite N 3 visite N 4 visite (visite 3 jours entier) N 5 location auto yosemite ouest (nuit mariposa ) N 6 Yosemite est (nuit mammoth) N 7 mammoth lake Deadvalley (nuit Beatty) N 8 Dead valley las vegas (circus circus ) N 9 las vegas N10 las vegas Zion visite (nuit Springdale) N11 Zion national Park Bryce Canyon (nuit Panguitch) N12 bryce canyon capitol reef National Park (nuit Torrey) N13 capitol reef Moab N14 Moab N15 Moab N16 Page (tres longue etape pas trop de choix des hotels ) N17 Page N18 Page N19 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N20 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N21 las vegas j 22 avion 11h00
c'est un itineaire assez tranquille pour une premiere visite au usa et ne maitrisant pas trop la langue (l'ados sera la et un bon dico) merci thierry
Arrivee a san francisco 14h N 1 visite N 2 visite N 3 visite N 4 visite (visite 3 jours entier) N 5 location auto yosemite ouest (nuit mariposa ) N 6 Yosemite est (nuit mammoth) N 7 mammoth lake Deadvalley (nuit Beatty) N 8 Dead valley las vegas (circus circus ) N 9 las vegas N10 las vegas Zion visite (nuit Springdale) N11 Zion national Park Bryce Canyon (nuit Panguitch) N12 bryce canyon capitol reef National Park (nuit Torrey) N13 capitol reef Moab N14 Moab N15 Moab N16 Page (tres longue etape pas trop de choix des hotels ) N17 Page N18 Page N19 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N20 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N21 las vegas j 22 avion 11h00
c'est un itineaire assez tranquille pour une premiere visite au usa et ne maitrisant pas trop la langue (l'ados sera la et un bon dico) merci thierry
Thiisa1
Hello
J5: Mariposa trop loin de Yosemite! Loge à El Portal ou au pire Oakhurst!
J7: si possible loger dans la Death Valley: Furnace Creek ou Stovepipe Wells. Dommage de loger à Beatty, malgré tout assez loin et loger dans la vallée c'est une expérience!
J11: Panguitch est loin de Bryce! Plutôt loger à Tropic ou mieux à Bryce Canyon City
J16: pour visiter Monument Valley tu peux loger à Mexican Hat! Le Hat Rock Inn est très bien!
@++
J5: Mariposa trop loin de Yosemite! Loge à El Portal ou au pire Oakhurst!
J7: si possible loger dans la Death Valley: Furnace Creek ou Stovepipe Wells. Dommage de loger à Beatty, malgré tout assez loin et loger dans la vallée c'est une expérience!
J11: Panguitch est loin de Bryce! Plutôt loger à Tropic ou mieux à Bryce Canyon City
J16: pour visiter Monument Valley tu peux loger à Mexican Hat! Le Hat Rock Inn est très bien!
@++
Hi Thibaud
J'avais logé à Mariposa, à 25km de l'entrée du parc, je ne considère pas que c'est trop loin mais c'est surtout moins cher que El Portal
Bern
J'avais logé à Mariposa, à 25km de l'entrée du parc, je ne considère pas que c'est trop loin mais c'est surtout moins cher que El Portal
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Salut Bern
Je pense que ta mémoire te fait défaut 😛. Mariposa est à 25 miles à l'Est d'El Portal qui est lui même à 5 miles de l'entrée Ouest de Yosemite. De plus la route reliant Mariposa à El Portal n'est pas du tout roulante! Elle est étroite avec beaucoup de virages... Compter environ 40 minutes pour relier Mariposa à El Portal et donc 1h de route pour arriver à l'entrée de Yosemite... Et dans Yosemite il faut encore rouler pour atteindre la vallée... Puis 1h encore pour atteindre Glacier Point... Etc 😉
Je pense que ta mémoire te fait défaut 😛. Mariposa est à 25 miles à l'Est d'El Portal qui est lui même à 5 miles de l'entrée Ouest de Yosemite. De plus la route reliant Mariposa à El Portal n'est pas du tout roulante! Elle est étroite avec beaucoup de virages... Compter environ 40 minutes pour relier Mariposa à El Portal et donc 1h de route pour arriver à l'entrée de Yosemite... Et dans Yosemite il faut encore rouler pour atteindre la vallée... Puis 1h encore pour atteindre Glacier Point... Etc 😉
Oui Mais Oakhurst a le mérite d'être proche de Mariposa Grove... Donc si on veut y être tôt le matin pour éviter la cohue, il n'y a pas mieux 😉
Autant pour moi, c'était en 2008,
mais c'est aussi la faute de google map qui ne donne pas les limites des parcs
Le prix de l'hôtel à El Portalpeut valoir 40 minutes de route en plus
Bern
Le prix de l'hôtel à El Portalpeut valoir 40 minutes de route en plus
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Mmmmm à El Portal en juin 2011, j'avais une chambre avec 2 lits doubles, frigo + micro-ondes à 140$ TTC. J'aurais pu avoir moins cher si j'avais choisi une chambre sans frigo ni micro ondes... C'est sûr, ce n'est pas donné mais on est à côté de Yosemite!
Et puis pour bien compter le différentiel de prix il faut compter 2 fois le trajet Mariposa - El Portal en plus avec la dépense en essence correspondante si on reste 1 nuit.
Après c'est sûr, c'est une affaire de choix, chacun économise sur ce qu'il veut. 😉 Autant je ne suis pas regardant sur le décor de la chambre, un hôtel de chaîne propre me satisfait pleinement, autant je suis regardant sur la distance par rapport aux sites visités. On roule déjà beaucoup quand on fait un circuit dans l'Ouest américain. Pas la peine d'en rajouter une couche à mon avis 😉. Tant pis, je ne ferai pas les outlets 😛 😉 😄
Après c'est sûr, c'est une affaire de choix, chacun économise sur ce qu'il veut. 😉 Autant je ne suis pas regardant sur le décor de la chambre, un hôtel de chaîne propre me satisfait pleinement, autant je suis regardant sur la distance par rapport aux sites visités. On roule déjà beaucoup quand on fait un circuit dans l'Ouest américain. Pas la peine d'en rajouter une couche à mon avis 😉. Tant pis, je ne ferai pas les outlets 😛 😉 😄
Actuellement, 199$
combien coutent 80km (AR) en essence aux USA ?
combien coutent 80km (AR) en essence aux USA ?
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Si on considère qu'on consomme du 10L aux 100 et que le litre est à 1$ environ, comptons 8$. Mais ça intervient bien dans le différentiel de prix, non?
Après encore une fois chacun fait comme il veut 😄, on ne va pas se battre pour ça 😛, ça m'est égal qu'il loge à Mariposa 😛, je l'interpelle juste sur le fait que c'est loin de Yosemite Valley (surtout que son passage à Yosemite est rapide!)
salut , tu sais que tu peux annuler certains hotels 48 h avant donc tu peux changer et te rapprocher des parcs.
concernant la langue fais toi pas de bille tes ados vont maitriser.
le mien 16 ans c'est trés bien débrouillé cet été et ça lui a fais un bien fou au vu de ses notes en anglais cette année.
ps/ un conseil si tu veux visiter alcatraz réserve le + tot possible c'est vite complet.
n'hesites pas si d"autres questions.
n'hesites pas si d"autres questions.
"ceux qui ne savent pas qu'ils marchent dans l'obscurité ne verront jamais la lumière"
merci
pour les réponses aussi rapide j'ai reservé au mois de decembre et deja les hotels etait bien plein surtout a yosemite et vallée de mort
donc se rabattre au plus plus pres des sites (des kilometres en plus )
je surveille quand meme les sites pour les resas d'hotel pour changer
a vous
thierry
Thiisa1
rebonjour
suite au avis plus haut
nous partons aux Etats-unis de 21 jours au mois du 30 juillet 2013 au 20 aout
Nous partons en famille (parents et 2 ados 17 ans et 14ans
juste un petit avis sur ce parcours (meme si tout est deja reserver )
Arrivee a san francisco 14h N 1 visite N 2 visite N 3 visite N 4 visite (visite 3 jours entier) N 5 location auto yosemite ouest (nuit mariposa ) N 6 Yosemite est (nuit mammoth) N 7 mammoth lake Deadvalley (nuit Beatty) N 8 Dead valley las vegas (circus circus ) N 9 las vegas N10 las vegas Zion visite (nuit Springdale) N11 Zion national Park Bryce Canyon (nuit Panguitch) N12 bryce canyon capitol reef National Park (nuit Torrey) N13 capitol reef Moab N14 Moab N15 Moab N16 Page (tres longue etape pas trop de choix des hotels ) N17 Page N18 Page N19 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N20 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N21 las vegas j 22 avion 11h00
c'est un itineaire assez tranquille pour une premiere visite au usa et ne maitrisant pas trop la langue (l'ados sera la et un bon dico) merci thierry
c'est a peu prés le meme itineraire que j'ai fais en juin 2012 suf que j'ai fais frisco / yosemite ( el portal ) hotel cedar lodge pas trop loin de l'entrée du parc / mammoth lakes ( hotel alpenhof)/ death valley ( furnach creek)/ vegas (circus) .
Arrivee a san francisco 14h N 1 visite N 2 visite N 3 visite N 4 visite (visite 3 jours entier) N 5 location auto yosemite ouest (nuit mariposa ) N 6 Yosemite est (nuit mammoth) N 7 mammoth lake Deadvalley (nuit Beatty) N 8 Dead valley las vegas (circus circus ) N 9 las vegas N10 las vegas Zion visite (nuit Springdale) N11 Zion national Park Bryce Canyon (nuit Panguitch) N12 bryce canyon capitol reef National Park (nuit Torrey) N13 capitol reef Moab N14 Moab N15 Moab N16 Page (tres longue etape pas trop de choix des hotels ) N17 Page N18 Page N19 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N20 grand canyon (nuit Tusayan) N21 las vegas j 22 avion 11h00
c'est un itineaire assez tranquille pour une premiere visite au usa et ne maitrisant pas trop la langue (l'ados sera la et un bon dico) merci thierry
c'est a peu prés le meme itineraire que j'ai fais en juin 2012 suf que j'ai fais frisco / yosemite ( el portal ) hotel cedar lodge pas trop loin de l'entrée du parc / mammoth lakes ( hotel alpenhof)/ death valley ( furnach creek)/ vegas (circus) .
"ceux qui ne savent pas qu'ils marchent dans l'obscurité ne verront jamais la lumière"
Je viens dire un grand merci a tous pour mon voyage a l'ouest des USA en aôut 2013.Grâce a vous tous, j'ai pu réaliser mon rêve et celui de ma famille de partir pendant 21 jours dans l'ouest, sans voyage organisé et sans parler l'anglais . Je suis tomber un peu par hasard sur le forum. au début c'était pour rêvée et en lisant les comptes rendu, tout doucement ça a germé !!! San Francisco yosemite Mammoth Lakes Vallée de la mort Las Vegas Zion Bryce canyon Capitol Reef (et non beef) Moab Monument Valley Page et Grand Canyon puis retour sur Vegas donc un grand merci bastinj pour ses itinéraires itat pour ses remarques pertinente et juste elvis 95100 pour son compte rendu de voyage au sujet de l'anglais julieng Jpg13 Berenberg zitounet stefanois et tout les autres ou j'ai pu glaner des infos !!!!!! chapeau bas mesdames et messieurs mon itineaire et info https://maps.google.fr/maps/ms?msid=215612552311722271996.0004b243642f9a57d728b&msa=0&ll=37.978845, -116.30127&spn=8.137568,19.335937
Thiisa1
salut thierry , bien content pour toi que cela c'est bien passé .... un sacré pays quand meme on n'en reviens pas intact...
les enfants ont du adorer.
les enfants ont du adorer.
"ceux qui ne savent pas qu'ils marchent dans l'obscurité ne verront jamais la lumière"
Merci pour ton retour! 🙂
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Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
