Leh: prendre un Diamox contre le mal des montagnes?
by Flavinmoscou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous partons jeudi matin pour 10 jours au Ladakh et j'aurais voulu savoir si je devais prendre un Diamox en préventif la veille du départ vu que nous atterrissons directement a 3500m.
Je suis un peu inquiète du mal des montagnes !
Merci pour vos retours
Flavienne
Bonjour Flavienne.
Comme toi je suis arrivé en avion a Leh. Il est selon moi inutile de prendre du Diamox. Par contre impose toi une journée d'acclimatation avant de monter plus haut. Il est vrai quand tu arrives et que tu monte 5 marche, tu sens que tu manque un peu de souffle c'est toi. Il me semble que le Diamox ne se prend pas en préventif. Mets en toute fois dans ton sac si tu fais un trek. Certaines personnes peuvent ressentir le mal d'attitude en marchant. Profite bien du Ladakh c'est magique. Benoît
J'en reviens, ça dépend de chacun. Pour ma part, je crois que je suis définitivement fait pour vivre au bord de mer😎
L'altitude ça ne s'improvise pas surtout qu'au Ladakh tu montes facilement de 3500 à 5300 m pour certains cols. Maux de tête, légères nausées, quelques saignements de nez tout cela sur les 2 premiers jours mais durant toute la semaine de mon séjour las bas, je n'ai jamais vraiment été dans ma forme normale.
Mange peu, bois régulièrement de l'eau mais tout cela devient théorique lorsque le mal s'installe. Tu n'auras envie de rien sinon de l'altitude 0 😏- Il y a trop d'amplitude sur une même journée Ajoute à cela les routes chaotiques, tu te retrouves dans des voitures transformées en véritables lessiveuses, rien pour aider les pauvres humains de la plaine.
Surtout ne mange pas spicy pour cumuler les problèmes
L'altitude ça ne s'improvise pas surtout qu'au Ladakh tu montes facilement de 3500 à 5300 m pour certains cols. Maux de tête, légères nausées, quelques saignements de nez tout cela sur les 2 premiers jours mais durant toute la semaine de mon séjour las bas, je n'ai jamais vraiment été dans ma forme normale.
Mange peu, bois régulièrement de l'eau mais tout cela devient théorique lorsque le mal s'installe. Tu n'auras envie de rien sinon de l'altitude 0 😏- Il y a trop d'amplitude sur une même journée Ajoute à cela les routes chaotiques, tu te retrouves dans des voitures transformées en véritables lessiveuses, rien pour aider les pauvres humains de la plaine.
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Bonjour,
je ne suis jamais allé au Ladakh mais deux fois au Népal (Annapurna et Dolpo).
Je suis sensibilisé au mal des montagnes car j'ai dévalé le Thorung La avec ma compagne quasiment sous le bras ! Elle s'était effondrée et n'a plus aucun souvenir entre 5000m et 4200m. La deuxième fois, après conseil auprès d'un médecin spécialiste du CHU de Grenoble, elle a pris du Diamox en prévention, 1/2 cachet par jour si ma mémoire n'est pas défaillante (l'histoire a bientôt 20 ans). Nous sommes totalement inégaux face à ce problème. J'ai pour ma part eu souvent des maux de tête mais qui passaient avec un Doliprane. J'ai pourtant eu beaucoup moins de problème la deuxième fois car l'essentiel c'est le temps d'acclimatation. A partir de 3000/3500 il ne faudrait pas, idéalement, progresser plus de 400m / jour, le Top est même de monter autour de 7/800 et redescendre 3/400 (mais tout ça c'est super mais rarement applicable).
Si le mal de tête passe avec les antalgiques alors pas de soucis, pas besoin de Diamox.
Si tu prends du Diamox et que les symptômes continuent alors STOP, il ne faut plus monter.
Dans ton cas, comme tu arrives directement à LEH il me semble important d'y passer une première journée sans faire d'effort et idéalement une deuxième en faisant un petit tour en prenant de l'altitude.
Et puis finalement tu vas certainement faire parti de cette majorité de gens qui ne ressentent rien avant 4000m
bon séjour
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Merci pour vos réponses. On arrive jeudi midi et nos premières escusions Sont à partir de Samedi Matin. On part direction lamayuru Pour 2 nuits. Programme du jeudi apres midi repos et vendredi viSite à pied De La Ville. J'espère que tout se passera bien ! En tout cas un beau soleil nous attend !
A tout hasard, la posologie du Diamox ( acétazolamid) dans cette indication est de 250mg 2x/j, à commencer la veille de l'ascension et à poursuivre au minimum 4 jours.
Des études récentes tendent à montre que l'ibuprofen, molécule antinflammatoire très commune, vendue comme original sous le nom de Brufen, disponible en de nombreux génériques ( Nurofen etc), à la dose de 600mg par jour, commencé le jour même , a un effet à peu près équivalent au Diamox, avec moins d'effets secondaires, sous réserve des personnes ayant soit une allergie connue aux anti-inflammatoires ou ayant des antécédants d'ulcères gastrique ou duodénaux.
Des études récentes tendent à montre que l'ibuprofen, molécule antinflammatoire très commune, vendue comme original sous le nom de Brufen, disponible en de nombreux génériques ( Nurofen etc), à la dose de 600mg par jour, commencé le jour même , a un effet à peu près équivalent au Diamox, avec moins d'effets secondaires, sous réserve des personnes ayant soit une allergie connue aux anti-inflammatoires ou ayant des antécédants d'ulcères gastrique ou duodénaux.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
Bonjour Flavienne,
Je pars dans trois jours et je me pose cette même question. J'arrive cinq jours avant le début du trek.
J'arrive à New Delhi dans la nuit et je prends un vol domestique le matin pour Leh. C'est la 1re fois en altitude. J'ai la prescription de Diamox, mais je suis partagée entre deux avis : s'acclimater et le prendre au cas ou en prendre en prévention.
Quelle a été votre expérience finalement?
Merci!
Je pars dans trois jours et je me pose cette même question. J'arrive cinq jours avant le début du trek.
J'arrive à New Delhi dans la nuit et je prends un vol domestique le matin pour Leh. C'est la 1re fois en altitude. J'ai la prescription de Diamox, mais je suis partagée entre deux avis : s'acclimater et le prendre au cas ou en prendre en prévention.
Quelle a été votre expérience finalement?
Merci!
Bonjour,
Au final pas eu besoin de prendre de comprimé car bonne acclimatation et aucun mal des montagnes. Si tu as 5 jours tu peux attendre au moins 2 jours après ton arrivée et voir comment tu te sens à Leh.
Profites bien ! On avait vraiment aimé notre séjour l’annee Dernière.
Merci beaucoup de cette réponse rapide!
Au plaisir!
Au plaisir!
Un très bon résumé sur le sujet :
https://www.ffme.fr/uploads/medical/documents/mal-aigu-montagne.pdf
https://www.ffme.fr/uploads/medical/documents/mal-aigu-montagne.pdf
Une résumé excellent. Merci
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Bonjour,
Je n'ai pris aucun cachet de Diamox, ni en prévention ni durant mon séjour. Je n'ai eu aucun mal de tête. Qu'une certaine fatigue ou un certain abattement.
J'ai suivi les conseils donnés : - Hydratation AVANT mon arrivée. Dès mon départ de Montréal, je buvais de 1 à 2 l d'eau par jour. - Repos et hydratation LE JOUR DE mon arrivée. Le premier jour, j'ai dû boire de 3 à 4 l d'eau et ai respecté le rythme de mon corps : acclimatation à l'altitude et au décalage horaire de 9 h 30. J'ai donc dormi, mangé et bu de l'eau. Sans plus. Sans décalage, j'aurais fait une petite balade dans Leh, sans plus. Je ne me serais pas aventurée au Shanti Stupa ou au Fort Tsemo (plus en hauteur = effort physique). - Hydratation PENDANT tout le séjour. J'ai continué de boire en moyenne 2 l d'eau par jour. Je n'ai bu de l'alcool (bière) qu'à la fin de mon séjour, après 22 jours au Ladakh, après avoir fait un trek allant jusqu'à 5200 m d'altitude. - Respect de mes limites PENDANT tout le séjour. Exemple : J'ai pu sentir un certain abattement quand j'atteignais pour la 1re fois plus de 4500 m... Repos, sans effort physique supplémentaire une fois au campement. À noter que le trek respectait une progression qui permet une meilleure acclimatation.
Article pertinent sur le Diamox : https://www.explorateurvoyages.com/2018/05/31/traitement-vs-prevention-avec-le-diamox-pourquoi-devons-nous-avoir-ce-medicament-lorsque-nous-voyageons-en-altitude/
Hydratation de la peau : une bonne crème hydratante + un baume pour les lèvres sont essentiels! Pas seulement pour la journée, aussi pendant la nuit pour un soin réparateur.
Bon séjour!
Je n'ai pris aucun cachet de Diamox, ni en prévention ni durant mon séjour. Je n'ai eu aucun mal de tête. Qu'une certaine fatigue ou un certain abattement.
J'ai suivi les conseils donnés : - Hydratation AVANT mon arrivée. Dès mon départ de Montréal, je buvais de 1 à 2 l d'eau par jour. - Repos et hydratation LE JOUR DE mon arrivée. Le premier jour, j'ai dû boire de 3 à 4 l d'eau et ai respecté le rythme de mon corps : acclimatation à l'altitude et au décalage horaire de 9 h 30. J'ai donc dormi, mangé et bu de l'eau. Sans plus. Sans décalage, j'aurais fait une petite balade dans Leh, sans plus. Je ne me serais pas aventurée au Shanti Stupa ou au Fort Tsemo (plus en hauteur = effort physique). - Hydratation PENDANT tout le séjour. J'ai continué de boire en moyenne 2 l d'eau par jour. Je n'ai bu de l'alcool (bière) qu'à la fin de mon séjour, après 22 jours au Ladakh, après avoir fait un trek allant jusqu'à 5200 m d'altitude. - Respect de mes limites PENDANT tout le séjour. Exemple : J'ai pu sentir un certain abattement quand j'atteignais pour la 1re fois plus de 4500 m... Repos, sans effort physique supplémentaire une fois au campement. À noter que le trek respectait une progression qui permet une meilleure acclimatation.
Article pertinent sur le Diamox : https://www.explorateurvoyages.com/2018/05/31/traitement-vs-prevention-avec-le-diamox-pourquoi-devons-nous-avoir-ce-medicament-lorsque-nous-voyageons-en-altitude/
Hydratation de la peau : une bonne crème hydratante + un baume pour les lèvres sont essentiels! Pas seulement pour la journée, aussi pendant la nuit pour un soin réparateur.
Bon séjour!
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I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!




