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Bonjour à tous, comme le titre l'indique je pars bientot à Marrakech et souhaite faire ces 2 excursions. Auriez-vous un endroit où manger bon marché à me conseiller ? Merci à vous. chuppa
Manger bon marché à Ouzoud et Ourika? (Maroc)
by Isa22
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Salam !
J'étais à Ouzoud il y a un mois et quelques et nous sommes descendus par la droite (quand on est en haut des cascades, sur votre droite).
Il y a des jeunes qui font les guides. C'est nécessaire sur cette route là, car le terrain (magnifique, avec d'immenses oliviers) peut être glissant. Si vous souhaitez avoir recours à un guide mais que votre conscience vous chatouille, faites comme mes amis marocains qui m'accompagnaient ce jour, demandez qui fait des études et prenez celui qui répond oui. (cela encourage les études et ne favorise pas l'apparition de guides qui ont juste 12 ans).
Lors de cette descente, vous allez tomber sur des petits restos, après les campings. Ils ont les meilleurs tajines que j'ai jamais mangé, face aux cascades, un point de vue splendide, et en toute tranquilité. C'est beaucoup mieux que les petits snacks de l'autre coté. Quand vous aurez finis, continuez la descente. Pour traverser en bas, prenez un petit bateau, ne traversez surtout pas par le pont, rouillé et détruit, par pitié.
Vous pourrez remonter par la suite par le chemin "touristiques", pleine de marches d'escaliers, avec les snacks et les vendeurs de souvenirs.
Photos à votre dispostion si vous souhaitez mieux envisager cette route.
J'étais à Ouzoud il y a un mois et quelques et nous sommes descendus par la droite (quand on est en haut des cascades, sur votre droite).
Il y a des jeunes qui font les guides. C'est nécessaire sur cette route là, car le terrain (magnifique, avec d'immenses oliviers) peut être glissant. Si vous souhaitez avoir recours à un guide mais que votre conscience vous chatouille, faites comme mes amis marocains qui m'accompagnaient ce jour, demandez qui fait des études et prenez celui qui répond oui. (cela encourage les études et ne favorise pas l'apparition de guides qui ont juste 12 ans).
Lors de cette descente, vous allez tomber sur des petits restos, après les campings. Ils ont les meilleurs tajines que j'ai jamais mangé, face aux cascades, un point de vue splendide, et en toute tranquilité. C'est beaucoup mieux que les petits snacks de l'autre coté. Quand vous aurez finis, continuez la descente. Pour traverser en bas, prenez un petit bateau, ne traversez surtout pas par le pont, rouillé et détruit, par pitié.
Vous pourrez remonter par la suite par le chemin "touristiques", pleine de marches d'escaliers, avec les snacks et les vendeurs de souvenirs.
Photos à votre dispostion si vous souhaitez mieux envisager cette route.
Ce que je sais c'est que je ne sais rien
Merci Pasheera de votre réponse. Pouvez-vous me dire combien de temps prend cette promenade ? Car nous viendrons de Marrakech et avec le temps de faire la route... Peut-être s'arrêter en chemin s'il y a quelque chose de sympa à voir (c'est aussi une question? !) Est-ce que vous savez combien demandent les guides aux cascades ? Au fait, oui je veux bien voir vos photos !!! Merci Chuppa
Mais de rien, ça me fait même tout bizarre que l'on me vouvoie !
Mais je vous en prie, tutoyez moi. Ici, c'est un lieu d'échange spontané et ça me ferait plaisir que chacun se mette à l'aise 😛
POur une étape éventuelle sur la route Marrakech-Ouzoud, vous pouvez faire un tour à Demnate. Pas loin, vous pouvez faire une pause au pont naturel Imi N Ifri et boire un thé pour chasser la fatigue. Sinon, dans les environs, Iroutane, avec un tout petit endroit classé archéologique, si vous aimez. Sinon, juste un peu avant Demnate, un centre de poterie dont je ne me souviens pas le nom.
Si vous partez une seule journée, faites la route le matin pour faire une pause sur ces endroits. Ce ne sont pas des visites révolutionnaires mais des haltes. Puis, allez manger à Ouzoud. La descente se fait en 30 minutes (toujours plus facile à descendre qu'à monter, étrange, non ? 😉), mangez un bon tajine, continuez et traversez les trous d'eau pour boire un thé de l'autre coté. Puis remontez doucement. Doucement... Par contre, aucune idée de ce que tu peux donner au guide ; cela ne dure pas longtemps, et cela depend de son sourire bien sur !! Désolée mais mes amis se sont chargés de rémunérer ce jeune qui s'appellait Hicham. Je sais que nous l'avons invité à manger le tajine et qu'il a réfusé mais il etait super content de cette invitation. Je pense que nous lui avons donné 50 dirhams.
Après, il faut savoir que vous pouvez faire un grand tour, je m'explique ; vous pouvez passer la journée aux cascades et remonter à la source, ou aller jusqu'aux grottes. Vous pouvez même, mais avec courbatures douloureuses éventuelles (humidité + confort pas super) passer la nuit sur les campings, face aux cascades.
Cela dépend de vos envies !
POur une étape éventuelle sur la route Marrakech-Ouzoud, vous pouvez faire un tour à Demnate. Pas loin, vous pouvez faire une pause au pont naturel Imi N Ifri et boire un thé pour chasser la fatigue. Sinon, dans les environs, Iroutane, avec un tout petit endroit classé archéologique, si vous aimez. Sinon, juste un peu avant Demnate, un centre de poterie dont je ne me souviens pas le nom.
Si vous partez une seule journée, faites la route le matin pour faire une pause sur ces endroits. Ce ne sont pas des visites révolutionnaires mais des haltes. Puis, allez manger à Ouzoud. La descente se fait en 30 minutes (toujours plus facile à descendre qu'à monter, étrange, non ? 😉), mangez un bon tajine, continuez et traversez les trous d'eau pour boire un thé de l'autre coté. Puis remontez doucement. Doucement... Par contre, aucune idée de ce que tu peux donner au guide ; cela ne dure pas longtemps, et cela depend de son sourire bien sur !! Désolée mais mes amis se sont chargés de rémunérer ce jeune qui s'appellait Hicham. Je sais que nous l'avons invité à manger le tajine et qu'il a réfusé mais il etait super content de cette invitation. Je pense que nous lui avons donné 50 dirhams.
Après, il faut savoir que vous pouvez faire un grand tour, je m'explique ; vous pouvez passer la journée aux cascades et remonter à la source, ou aller jusqu'aux grottes. Vous pouvez même, mais avec courbatures douloureuses éventuelles (humidité + confort pas super) passer la nuit sur les campings, face aux cascades.
Cela dépend de vos envies !
Ce que je sais c'est que je ne sais rien
Bonjour
a Ouzoud, les petits restos sont tous a éviter ! Aucun n'a de scrupules a vous servir les restes!
La plupart des voyagistes ou agences n'emmènent pas leurs clients dans ces bouibouis.
A éviter, histoire de ne pas passer le reste de ses vacances assis sur les toilettes!
Bien + sympa: Pour aller a Ouzoud, au départ de Marrakech, je vous conseil de suivre un autre itinéraire: Départ pour Ouzoud, le matin par la route de Fès et Azilal, l'itinéraire classique est sans aucun intérêt. Prévoir 2H pour une belle ballade sur le site d'Ouzoud, même si certains font + court. Départ pour Demnate en retournant sur vos pas et arrêt a un resto sur la route: Kasbah Timdaf, ferme écologique, où les patrons sont patrons sont très accueillants. Repas à env 120 Dh de mémoire. Visite de la kasbah et son pressoir à olive dans la cave. Après déjeuner, départ (15 mn de trajet) pour le pont naturel d' Imi'n Ifri puis les traces de dinosaures de Ouaridenne. Retour a Demnate (10 mn) et emprunter la route qui mène au lac Ait Adll, parallèle de la route de Fès. Des paysages a couper le souffle. Arrivée sur la route Fès marrakech et retour a Marrakech.
Cet itinéraire n'est pas emprunter pas les circuits touristiques! Bon ballade Ouzoud: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyen_Atlas la kasbah à demnate: www.kasbah-timdaf.com - imi'n Ifri:http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2545119470062821532DJRuPc
bonne ballade
Bien + sympa: Pour aller a Ouzoud, au départ de Marrakech, je vous conseil de suivre un autre itinéraire: Départ pour Ouzoud, le matin par la route de Fès et Azilal, l'itinéraire classique est sans aucun intérêt. Prévoir 2H pour une belle ballade sur le site d'Ouzoud, même si certains font + court. Départ pour Demnate en retournant sur vos pas et arrêt a un resto sur la route: Kasbah Timdaf, ferme écologique, où les patrons sont patrons sont très accueillants. Repas à env 120 Dh de mémoire. Visite de la kasbah et son pressoir à olive dans la cave. Après déjeuner, départ (15 mn de trajet) pour le pont naturel d' Imi'n Ifri puis les traces de dinosaures de Ouaridenne. Retour a Demnate (10 mn) et emprunter la route qui mène au lac Ait Adll, parallèle de la route de Fès. Des paysages a couper le souffle. Arrivée sur la route Fès marrakech et retour a Marrakech.
Cet itinéraire n'est pas emprunter pas les circuits touristiques! Bon ballade Ouzoud: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyen_Atlas la kasbah à demnate: www.kasbah-timdaf.com - imi'n Ifri:http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2545119470062821532DJRuPc
bonne ballade
Bonsoir Pasheera, ok on se tutoie y'a pas de souci ! bon si j'ai bien compris, on passe d'abord le bureau des guides, on attaque la descente on va jusqu'aux campings, ON MANGE (!), on se délasse... on traverse la rivière et on remonte tranquille, tu me dis que la ballade n'est pas très longue, alors est-ce qu'il y a besoin d'un guide (que vous a t-il apporté ce jeune Hicham?). Pour les pauses en cours de route et bien on verra bien ! Si tu as d'autres infos, conseils ou autres je suis preneuse ! Bonne soirée et merci encore. Chuppa
Bonjour,
A Ouzoud, point n'est besoin d'un "guide", il n'y a pas de bureaux de guides ! Seuls sont présents des rabatteurs, qui essayent de vous convaincre que descendre cet escalier est une aventure et que sans eux on se trouve en danger !
On descend en 15 minutes en flanant, on peut (non obligatoire) traversér la rivière, soit par la passerelle si c'est pas trop boueux, soit sur un des radeaux qui amusent bien les gosses pour le prix d'une traversée transatlantique, et on peut remonter par la rive droite sans se perdre, puisqu'il suffit de suivre un sentier qui longe la rivière.
Manger sur place ? faut quand meme oser !
On peut y passer à peine plus d'une heure ! Le circuit proposé par Obled, est une excellente idée ! La suggestion pour le repas est une toute nouvelle adresse qui se révele excellente!
A Ouzoud, point n'est besoin d'un "guide", il n'y a pas de bureaux de guides ! Seuls sont présents des rabatteurs, qui essayent de vous convaincre que descendre cet escalier est une aventure et que sans eux on se trouve en danger !
On descend en 15 minutes en flanant, on peut (non obligatoire) traversér la rivière, soit par la passerelle si c'est pas trop boueux, soit sur un des radeaux qui amusent bien les gosses pour le prix d'une traversée transatlantique, et on peut remonter par la rive droite sans se perdre, puisqu'il suffit de suivre un sentier qui longe la rivière.
Manger sur place ? faut quand meme oser !
On peut y passer à peine plus d'une heure ! Le circuit proposé par Obled, est une excellente idée ! La suggestion pour le repas est une toute nouvelle adresse qui se révele excellente!
Ben en fin de compte je me demande si je vais y aller ! tant de kms depuis Marrakech juste pour faire une ballade de 1 h à peine et manger (on ne sait quoi en plus !) je ne sais pas si ça en vaut la peine. Je vais garder la sortie de la vallée de l'ourika et je vais en chercher une autre pour une journée alors si qq'un à un conseil à me donner... Chuppa
EN REPONSE A VOTRE ANNONCE, IL Y A ENORMEMENT DE RESTAURANT MOINS CHER A L OURIKA ET OUZOUD.IL FAUT SAVOIR UNIQUEMENT DISCUTER LE PRIX.SI VOUS SOUHAITEZ RESTONS ALORS EN CONTACT CAR J HABITE MARRAKECH ET JE CONNAIS BIEN L ENDROIT.SI VOUS VOULEZ, LORSQUE VOUS ARRIVEZ VOUS POUVEZ ME CONTACTER ET JE VOUS MONTRERAI DE TRES BEAUX ENDROITS MOINS CHERS.
CORDIALEMENT
le site merite le detour pour sa beauté et pour se ressourcer aprés le stress d'une ville comme Marrakech.
les marocains quand ils y vont, ils amenent avec les ingredients et cuisinent leurs marmittes sur place.
si tu as envie de changer et manger autre chose, c'est l'occasion de preparer des sandwitch de pain thon tomates et ognons que tu achetes chez l'epicier à Marrakech.
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
En général les visiteurs marocains soit à l'ourika ou Ouzoud preferent preparer leurs repas de leurs propres mains cela fait partie de la façon de faire les piques niques ici, de manger ce dont on a envie. quand j'ai été à Ouzoud j'avais commandé un couscous chez une famille qui habitait un peu plus bas des cascades c'etait un des meilleurs que j'ai mangé. le prix pour 4 personnes etait de 100dh "melon et thé compris". je te conseille de ne pas s'arreter avec les foules chez les restaurateurs qui sont juste à côté des cascades mais de descendre plus bas.
Ne crains rien au niveau des repas, c'est propre et bien fait, j'ai plus peur dans les grandes terrasses en ville que chez les geans sipmles de la montagne, commandez vos repas dés votre arrivée vous reveniez plus tard pour manger. si vous ne preferez pas le poivre dites leurs au debut, commandez plus de legumes et moins de viande cela les arrange les legumes sont produits de leurs propres champs.
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
Alors pour ton excursion a Ourika, j'ai un super plan
Juste apres la biffurcation qui monte a Oukamden, si tu continue sur la route d'ourika sur 500m tu trouvera un petit restaurant indiqué par "PARKING" ecris sur une porte métalique.
Dedans tu peux manger de délicieux Tajines, au bord de la riviere pour des prix totalement raisonable. Un vrai délice dans un excllent cadre
tout à fait, quand on descends le cours d'eau des cascades, d'autres personnes amenagent prés de chez eux des petits espaces ou ils proposent du thé.j'avais pris le thé que j'ai trouvé bon j'ai proposé s'il peut nous cuisiner un couscous que nous payons on s'est mis d'accord sur le prix et les ingredients et nous sommes revenus le manger chez lui. et comme le couscous etait si bon aussi je lui proposé de nous trouver où dormir, et il nous proposa 2 petites chambres en pisé authentiques à 50 dh la nuit la chambre ! incomparables avec les tristes chambres d'hotel que nous avions déja payé à marrakech en plus d'un reveil matinal aux champs des coqs !
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
Bonsoir Alkimist, merci de cette info, cette solution me plait bien, même si ça reste commercial. Et je pense que mes enfants trouveront ça sympa aussi. Pour un peu qu'ils y ait des enfants aussi, ça serait peut-être une belle rencontre. Je vais aller aussi dans la vallée de l'Ourika alors si tu as d'autres bonnes idées je les prends aussi. Je te souhaite une bonne soirée. Chuppa
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!