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bonjour je pars en vacances au maroc en location à essaouira j'aimerais savoir si on trouve facilement du vin et differents appéros dans les magasins genre épicerie ou supérette
merci , quelqun connait ?
Séjour à Essaouira: vins et apéritifs dans les magasins?
by Anilso
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Salut,
Bien sur, je pense etre au courant,
mais les autres boutiques vendant de l'alcool sont fermées.
Il n'y a pas de grandes surfaces partout,
certaines ferment leur rayon alcool pour etre tranquilles,
et pour d'autres ,
elles imposent un vrai parcours du combattant derrière des baches, que le touriste basique risque de se décourager !
les épiceries de ""vins"" ferment pendant ramadan
dans le rayon vin à Marjane (gd surface à Marrakech) on peut acheter sa bouteille pendant cette période étant non musulman. Donc, réservé aux européens.
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
Ta réponse est exacte on présente juste une carte d'identité ou son passeport , mais je ne sais pas comment on reconnait un musulman d'un catholique car on peut très bien est Français et musulman et là pas de problème pour acheter de l'alcool . certain nous demande sur le parking du magasin si l'on peut leur en prendre car eux sont refoulés d'office dans le rayon à alcool.
Je pense que je ne suis pas le seul a qui cela est arrivé.
Jcaud
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comment on reconnait un musulman d'un catholique
se fait en rayon, avec les services compétents : ils sont malins !!!
se fait en rayon, avec les services compétents : ils sont malins !!!
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
Oui je sais qu'ils sont malins mais j'aimerai savoir quand même , tu peux présenter un passeport Français et ce n'est pas pour cela que l'on est catholique et vis versa
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
finalement, une bonne résolution, et bon voyage
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
salut Larbi
l'an passé, que nénie le rayon alcool de marjanne était fermé pour tous le monde, y compris pour les gaulois franchouillard, comme tu aimes a mous appeller😉... t'as interet a faire tes provisions de pastagas🙂
le profile méditerrané n'est pas le bienvenu, c'est évident, même avec un passeport européen.
Mais, ça coûte rien de poser sa bouteille sur le tapis et attendre.
La vérification en cas où..se fait en cherchant le nom sur le passeport, par ex.
Mustafa n'a pas droit au vin pendant ramadan !!!!!!!!!!
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
Bonjour , ce n'est pas par ce que le rayon à alcool a le rideau de fer baissé qu'il est fermé pour tout le monde , tu demandes un responsable aux surveillants du magasin et il viennent t'ouvrir le rideau pour toi tout seul , mais si l'on ne demande rien tu n'as rien , même chez métro c'est la même chose c'est fermé pour faire bien mais ils ouvrent quand même sur demande.
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
mais à marrakech, l'année dernière, il m'a semblé que le rayon était ouvert aux étrangers
je ne sais pas si Metro ferme ses rayons. La profession propose des produits alcoolisés
aux clients non musulmans
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
merci jcaud pour ce tuyau... pourtant on m'avais dit que depuis 2008 interdiction d'alcool pour tous le monde
pendant la période de ramadan
Oui d'accord avec toi , mais cela ne veut pas dire que Mustafa est musulman , j'ai bien un ami qui se nomme Bernard et qui est Musulman sans pour cela avoir le profil de la méditerranée
Quant a poser la bouteille sur le tapis roulant , ce n'est pas possible étant donné que la vérification de fait dans le rayon des alcools, au début on prend ton nom ton N° de CNI , on le note sur un grand registre avec le nombre de bouteilles prises , cela dure quelques jours et ensuite plus rien de noté , mais il faut toujours présenter la CNI ou le passeport.
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
Ce n'est pas un tuyau que je te donne , c'est comme cela chaque année , je ne sais pas qui t'as dit cette chose mais sur Marrakech ou Agadir les rayons à alcool sont toujours ouverts, celui qui se trouve à la sortie de Marrakech route d'Essaouira à le rideau de fer baissé mais quand on demande , ils l'ouvrent . Il est vrai que ce Magasin est moins fréquenté par les Européens .
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
Bonnjour !
c'est simple essaouira est une petite ville c-à-dire tout est prés de toi, devan la plage il ya un Bar tro connu et aussi ya des restau-bar, j'ai passer le moi juin là ba tout est passe bien, je trouve pas un épicerie des vins mais il ya un Bar pa tro chére .
bon voyage
la vie est belle
Anilso ne demande pas à aller dans les bars , il demande tout simplement si il peut trouver de l'alcool sur Essaouira pendant ses congés .
Si tu n'as rien à dire de plus beau que le silence alors tais toi
je sais, mais a mon avis c'est la solution, parceque On est le moi de Ramadan. l'autorisation de vente de l'alcohol est que pour les bars, pas pour les épiceries et justement pour les etrangés
voilà Merci endy26
la vie est belle
Bonjour,
tu n'as pas trouvé... mais il y a au moins un magasin de vente d'alcool: sur Massira, +- milieu de la rue!
tu n'as pas trouvé... mais il y a au moins un magasin de vente d'alcool: sur Massira, +- milieu de la rue!
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Salam!
Je viens me mêler de la conversation...Effectivement, le fait d'être musulman ou non n'est pas inscrit sur notre front...Suis perplexe sur le fait que les vigiles puissent déterminer notre appartenance à une religion, quelqu'elle soit, dans les allées ou sur un parking de supermarché, où soit-dit en passant, je n'ai personnellement jamais vu de représentants de la maison poulaga ou de ses clônes...
Pourquoi ne pas faire provision de breuvages alcoolisés sur le bateau, ou à l'aéroport, selon le moyen de transport que vous emprunterez? Ce qui, au demeurant, vous évitera d'exhiber vos bouteilles au nez des Marocains qui pendant la période où vous serez dans leur pays seront en plein Ramadan?
Je viens me mêler de la conversation...Effectivement, le fait d'être musulman ou non n'est pas inscrit sur notre front...Suis perplexe sur le fait que les vigiles puissent déterminer notre appartenance à une religion, quelqu'elle soit, dans les allées ou sur un parking de supermarché, où soit-dit en passant, je n'ai personnellement jamais vu de représentants de la maison poulaga ou de ses clônes...
Pourquoi ne pas faire provision de breuvages alcoolisés sur le bateau, ou à l'aéroport, selon le moyen de transport que vous emprunterez? Ce qui, au demeurant, vous évitera d'exhiber vos bouteilles au nez des Marocains qui pendant la période où vous serez dans leur pays seront en plein Ramadan?
Ut melius quicquid erit pati [...]. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. Horace.
Salut ,
il y a bien un magasin d'alcoola essaouira , tu le trouve en sortant par bab doukala et tu prend la rue commerçante a ta droite c'est plus ou moins au milieu de la rue sur le trotoir de droite .
cordilement
Si je peux me permettre "Mustapha" n'a pas droit au vin meme hors ramadan 😏
SO
même pas au Chaud Soleil trois étoiles ?😊
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
Bonjour,
je reviens d'Essaouira et j'ai pu trouver un endroit assez discret pour trouver tout ce qu'il faut en terme d'acool, bières, vins, etc...
mais comment expliquer?
En quittant la Médina, direction Agadir, la route qui suit la digue rejoint la route qui vient du centre. Sur la gauche se trouve une place avec au fond la gros bâtiment provincial ou départemental...
Il faut prendre cette place en repsectant les sens interdits et revenir vers Essaouira par une petite route parallèle à la principale. De cette route, se trouvent des ruelles perpendiculaires qui rejoignent ces deux routes. parmi celles ci se trouve une ruelle qui a une petite supérette sur la droite (côté médina) et en face des snacks, etc.... Il faut passer cette supérette et tourne dans la ruelle à gauche (direction Agadir). Il y a encore un petit magasin avec un distributeur de boisson de couleur rouge je pense sur le trottoir.
Juste derrière ce distributeur, se trouve une porte style métallique (en tout cas pas très visible) qui est légèrement entrouverte avec quelqu'un derrière qui guette les acheteurs.
vous ous approchez de cette porte et il vous ouvrira; A l'intérieur, la caverne d'Ali-Baba avec des bouteilles partout sur des rayons de 4 à 5 étages de haut. et des boissons au frais...
Bonne chance et excuse pour le plan mais bon, je ne suis resté qu'un jour à essaouira.
Par contre, près du mur de la Médina, un super bar branché, avec une très belle terrasse et tout ce qu'il faut. il propose aussi la shisha à la pomme et c'est une bonne ambiance. Le nom? Si je retrouve je l'envoie mais c'est très visible, y a des grandes lettres sur le mur et un hotel à côté.
La vie n'est pas qu'un rêve...
Trop fort!
En une journée t'arrives à dénicher un guerrab (vendeur d'alcool et d'eau-de-vie clandestin). Faut être vraiment en manque et tête brûlée (limite sans cervelle) pour risquer de passer le reste de son séjour au commissariat à cause de quelques litres de pinard que l'on peut trouver facilement (et légalement) dans le commerce.
And the winner is (dans la catégorie plan foireux) ...
Bonjour , tu as raison tout est fermé et les grandes surfaces ont été dévalisées
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
SALUT !!
Pour info (surtout pour ceux qui vivent avec les "on dit") L' alcool n'est pas interdit dans le coran , c'est l' IVRESSE qui est interdite .. A force de contradiction du coran , on fait et dit m'importe quoi !! On voile les femmes pourquoi ? J' attend des réponses !! (j'ai déjà la mienne)
Cordialement de PAPY
Pour info (surtout pour ceux qui vivent avec les "on dit") L' alcool n'est pas interdit dans le coran , c'est l' IVRESSE qui est interdite .. A force de contradiction du coran , on fait et dit m'importe quoi !! On voile les femmes pourquoi ? J' attend des réponses !! (j'ai déjà la mienne)
Cordialement de PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
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"On voile les femmes pourquoi ? "
Toi qui te bats contre les "on", il y a aussi celles qui ont choisi délibérément de porter le voile. De la même manière qu'il est inconvenant de forcer une femme à porter le voile, il est incongru de le lui interdire.
Toi qui te bats contre les "on", il y a aussi celles qui ont choisi délibérément de porter le voile. De la même manière qu'il est inconvenant de forcer une femme à porter le voile, il est incongru de le lui interdire.
oui evidement vers la porte exterieure 2 magasins ou il y a tout (porte babdoukala)
B'jour !!
Qui à voilée la 1ére femme ? certainement pas elle .. C'est encore une affaire d'homme .. Dans le Coran , "la femme ne doit pas faire envie à sont voisin" , a partir de ça , la porte est ouverte à tout ...
de PAPY
Qui à voilée la 1ére femme ? certainement pas elle .. C'est encore une affaire d'homme .. Dans le Coran , "la femme ne doit pas faire envie à sont voisin" , a partir de ça , la porte est ouverte à tout ...
de PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
Bonjour
La conversation à la base était sur les alcools et elle dérive sur le voile .
Mais il est vrai que l'on cache une bouteille de vin dans un sac noir pour que personne ne sache ce que l'on achète mais tout le monde sait quand même que l'on sort d'un magasin spécialisé où ils ne vendent que cela . Donc pourquoi se voiler la face quant on sait qu'il y à même dans les grandes surfaces une caisse spéciale réservée aux alcools bien à l'écard des autres pour ne pas trop se faire remarquer .
cordialement
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
Bonjour,
le "super bar branché"... c'est le Taros...😉
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Bonjour, Papy!
Mon père a été longtemps marchand d'alcool en pays musulman, et les clients entraient en regardant derrière eux, cachaient leur bouteille sous leurs vetements avant de sortir, c'etait folklo puisqu'ils sortaient d'en debit de boissons😐, et 40 jours avant le debut du ramadan, ils devenaient tous sobres et le magasin ne vendait plus que des sodas et des sirops à ces memes clients qui "operaient" à visage decouvert!
Je n'ai pas la pretention étant athée d'avoir une interpretation du coran, d'ailleurs un grand poete arabe ( Omar Kahyyam) vantait déja les plaisirs des vins, et je sais les ravages des interpretations erronées, c'est d'actualité😕
SO
Omar AlKhayam n'est pas un poète arabe mais persan
Né à Nishapur (au nord est de l'actuel Iran) en 1048 et mourra en 1131
Oum Kalthoum , la célèbre chanteuse égyptienne, a chanté Robayat Alkhyam "Quatrains", un texte traduit par Ahmed Rami
Il me semble que je serais toujours bien là où je ne suis pas, et cette question de déménagement en est une que je discute sans cesse avec mon âme.... Charles Baudelaire
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!