Météo à Helambu/Langtang fin février - Pass Lauribinayak? (Népal)
by Tenzinsakado
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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De l'Helambu au Langtang a la Pass de Lauribinayak, je souhaiterais avoir des avis, experience sur ce passage que je souhaiterais effectuer FIN FEVRIER si la meteo le permet sachant que mon equipement et mon experience s'arrete la ou les crampons commencent.😮
Aussi je souhaiterais savoir si les lodges sont ouvertes a cette periode >>>😐
« Il n’y a d’homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie », écrivait Lama rtine.
Salut,
La météo n'étant pas une science exacte pas plus au Népal qu'en France on ne peut prévoir s'il y aura ou non de la neige à un col.. tout au plus peut-on se baser sur des probabilités pour dire que généralement ça passe à la période que tu indiques.. L'an dernier à la mi mars au col de Laurebina ( 4850m) il y avait environ entre 5 et 10 cm de neige par plaques sur environ 500m à 1 km et pas besoin de crampons.. Il peut aussi y avoir des nuages ( stratus, brouillard gênant la visi) Le col ganja-la lui est beaucoup plus enneigé et verglacé et plus difficile à passer sans équipement ( cordes piolets crampons) et nécessite 3 ou 4 jours ( bivouac) sans villages.. Dans l'Helambu et le Langtang les lodges sont ouverts et on trouve des couettes dans tous les lodges .. avoir quand même son duvet au cas où.. Si tus as le temps va faire un tour sur le "Tamang trail" moins couru et plus traditionnel que la vallée du Langtang ( on peut passer de l'un à l'autre par le col de Nagthali ( autour de 3000m) Il y a un lodge dans chaque village ( peut-être plus d'un maintenant) ne pas manquer Gatlang Thuman et Tatopani ( piscines d'eau chaude)... Si besoin d'un accompagnateur/porteur Tamang je connais des personnes de confiance...
La météo n'étant pas une science exacte pas plus au Népal qu'en France on ne peut prévoir s'il y aura ou non de la neige à un col.. tout au plus peut-on se baser sur des probabilités pour dire que généralement ça passe à la période que tu indiques.. L'an dernier à la mi mars au col de Laurebina ( 4850m) il y avait environ entre 5 et 10 cm de neige par plaques sur environ 500m à 1 km et pas besoin de crampons.. Il peut aussi y avoir des nuages ( stratus, brouillard gênant la visi) Le col ganja-la lui est beaucoup plus enneigé et verglacé et plus difficile à passer sans équipement ( cordes piolets crampons) et nécessite 3 ou 4 jours ( bivouac) sans villages.. Dans l'Helambu et le Langtang les lodges sont ouverts et on trouve des couettes dans tous les lodges .. avoir quand même son duvet au cas où.. Si tus as le temps va faire un tour sur le "Tamang trail" moins couru et plus traditionnel que la vallée du Langtang ( on peut passer de l'un à l'autre par le col de Nagthali ( autour de 3000m) Il y a un lodge dans chaque village ( peut-être plus d'un maintenant) ne pas manquer Gatlang Thuman et Tatopani ( piscines d'eau chaude)... Si besoin d'un accompagnateur/porteur Tamang je connais des personnes de confiance...
Ohh merci pour cette reponse precise et pointue, j'espere que ca va passer je suis a KTM et 2 jours qu'il pleut, un guide m'a dit que ca pouvait etre tendu a la passe debut mars j'espere avoir des conditions equivalentes a celle de l'annee derniere !!!
J'ai en effet renonce de passer par le Gangja la N'ayant pas de toute facon de lodge sachant que c'est pas une periode pour le camping😄> Mais la reside une deception car sit tuvois Dukpu J'aurais vraiment vraiment souhaite y aller 😕> Car sy trouve une holy Place (c'est ma motivation pour ce trek) importante une cave meme a priori deux> Seulement entre Dukphu et Tarkegyang il y a 1300 m de denivele positif et negatif pour un temps j'imagine bien 7h a/r... Si tu as une idee de la pratiquabilite du terrain n'hesite pas en m'en faire part !!!! En tout cas merci beaucoup de prendre le temps de partager ton experience 😏
J'ai en effet renonce de passer par le Gangja la N'ayant pas de toute facon de lodge sachant que c'est pas une periode pour le camping😄> Mais la reside une deception car sit tuvois Dukpu J'aurais vraiment vraiment souhaite y aller 😕> Car sy trouve une holy Place (c'est ma motivation pour ce trek) importante une cave meme a priori deux> Seulement entre Dukphu et Tarkegyang il y a 1300 m de denivele positif et negatif pour un temps j'imagine bien 7h a/r... Si tu as une idee de la pratiquabilite du terrain n'hesite pas en m'en faire part !!!! En tout cas merci beaucoup de prendre le temps de partager ton experience 😏
« Il n’y a d’homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie », écrivait Lama rtine.
Salut,
A part les cols pas se soucis ; ailleurs en dessous de 4000m peu de chance de trouver de la neige.. et pas de grande difficulté dans les étapes.. Pour le ganja-là ce n'est pas faisable sans guide ; en plus de la difficulté technique du col ( éboulements passages délicats, neige pentes abruptes...) une fois le col passé il est possible de se perdre et c'est 3 jours sans rien jusqu'à Tharkekiang.. Je ne me souviens pas de Dukpu mais je crois y être passé..
Ah j'y suis oui Dukhpu je vois... sur le chemin du Ganja-la? J'ai fait le parcours dans l'autre sens et je puis t'affirmer que ce n'est pas un village mais un simple abri ( il vaut d'ailleurs mieux dormir sous la tente car c'est dégueux!) il n'y a rien d'habité ni âme qui vive entre le Ganja-La et Tharkekiang ( 3 jours) et de plus une fois le col franchis on a eu de la neige 2 jours de suite ( prévoir des guêtres, si tu y vas et une tente + des vivres en conséquence...
Enfin je suppose que c'est ce Dukphu là dont tu parles...
Les lacs de Panch Pokhari code séjour FTpp niveau D/D 22 jours dont 17 de trek
Jour 1 : arrivée et/ou installation à l'hôtel Jour 2 : Katmandou, acclimatation, formalités. Visites optionnelles Jour 3 : Katmandou-Chautara en bus (4h) puis marche vers Shyoli, 1.000 m (2h) Jour 4 : Shyoli - Hatarmal (7h) Jour 5 : Hatarmal - Pakhabas, 3.200 m (6h) Jour 6 : Pakhabas – Nausam Pati, 3.650 m (4h) Jour 7 : Nausam Pati - Panch Pokhari, 4.000 m (4h30 Jour 8 : Panch Pokhari – Brtungang, 2.750m (5h) Jour 9 : Brungang – Sunchaur (5h) Jour 10 : Sunchaur – Bagun Gompa, 2.500 m (4h) Jour 11 : Bagun Gompa – Lhagang, 3.050 m (5h) Jour 12 : Lhagang - Tarkegyang, 2.600 m (3h) Jour 13 : Tarkegyang – Dukphu, 4.100 m (6h) Jour 14 : Dukphu – Keldang, 4.300 m (7h) Jour 15 : Keldang – Ganjala, 5.150 m - Ngegang, 4.000 m (7h) Jour 16 : Ngegang – Kyangjin, 4.000m Jour 17 : Kyangjin – Lama Hotel Jour 18 : Lama Hotel – Syabru, 2.150 m Jour 19 : Syabru - Dunche 2.000 m Jour 20 : Dhunche-Katmandou en bus Jour 21 : journée à Katmandou, visites optionnelles Jour 22 : fin du circuit
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Jour 1 : arrivée et/ou installation à l'hôtel Jour 2 : Katmandou, acclimatation, formalités. Visites optionnelles Jour 3 : Katmandou-Chautara en bus (4h) puis marche vers Shyoli, 1.000 m (2h) Jour 4 : Shyoli - Hatarmal (7h) Jour 5 : Hatarmal - Pakhabas, 3.200 m (6h) Jour 6 : Pakhabas – Nausam Pati, 3.650 m (4h) Jour 7 : Nausam Pati - Panch Pokhari, 4.000 m (4h30 Jour 8 : Panch Pokhari – Brtungang, 2.750m (5h) Jour 9 : Brungang – Sunchaur (5h) Jour 10 : Sunchaur – Bagun Gompa, 2.500 m (4h) Jour 11 : Bagun Gompa – Lhagang, 3.050 m (5h) Jour 12 : Lhagang - Tarkegyang, 2.600 m (3h) Jour 13 : Tarkegyang – Dukphu, 4.100 m (6h) Jour 14 : Dukphu – Keldang, 4.300 m (7h) Jour 15 : Keldang – Ganjala, 5.150 m - Ngegang, 4.000 m (7h) Jour 16 : Ngegang – Kyangjin, 4.000m Jour 17 : Kyangjin – Lama Hotel Jour 18 : Lama Hotel – Syabru, 2.150 m Jour 19 : Syabru - Dunche 2.000 m Jour 20 : Dhunche-Katmandou en bus Jour 21 : journée à Katmandou, visites optionnelles Jour 22 : fin du circuit
oui c'est bien de cet endroit dont je parlais 'Dukphu'', il devrait s'y trouver une petite grotte, un abri, qqchose... mais je pense y renoncer car 6h aller en partant de Tarkegyang + le retour dans la journee me parait pas du tout raisonnable🤪>
Merci en tout cas pour ton precieux temoignage !!!!
« Il n’y a d’homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie », écrivait Lama rtine.
Je n'ai pas vu de grotte mais une petite bâtisse en pierre ouverte aux 4 vents servant de refuge aux bergers et sans doute plus aux animaux..
Sinon le Humla tu y es allé avec un guide, quel trajet? combien de jours de trek ? ( je ne connais pas ce coin) je projette d'aller dans la vallée de la Mugu-Karnali...
Pour l'Humla difficile de te donner une reponse satisfaisante car je suis parti avec un Rinpoche detenteur d'une lignee se perpetuant dans cette region depuis l'exil tibetain, alors j'ai voyage 7 semaines avec lui avec des porteurs et a cheval... Je n'avais pas vraiment de carte et je n'ai pas fait ce chemin dans un etat d'esprit de trek>
Sinon les grandes lignes sont arrivee en avion a Simikot (pas d'autre possibilite, sur place aucune route ou moyen motorise a part l'helicoptere). De simikot a la frontiere tibetaine avec la pass a 5400 approximativement m'a t'on dit, par la vallee de L'humla dont un crochet par TsaLang (j'ai un doute sur la phonetique) un village a 4007 magnifique dont est tiree la photo de profil sur le forum. Simikot la frontioere pour un bon marcheur est peut etre faisable en une semaine ou moins mais nous nous arretions une semaine ici et une semaine la.
Voila tout ce que je peux t'en dire, c'est une region tres reculee ou si tu recherche l'authenticite tu trouveras peut etre ton bonheur car tu retrouve la culture tibetaine d'avant l'exil, la tradition des et le style de vie est celle des Lamas d'avant la destruction de leur monasetre pres du mont Kailash qui se trouverais plus qu'a deux jours a pied apres la border, chose que je n'ai pu faire faute de visa...
Sinon j'etais en mai, juin et y croise 2 groupes de trekeur occidentaux organise par agence, ils bivouaquaient et allaient jusqu'au mont Kailash en 10 jours plus ou moins je crois.
Superbe region un grand moment pour moi meme si il est vrai j'ai ete beaucoup malade entre ma premiere experience en relative haute altitude en plus de manger chez l'habitant, malgre 5mois en Inde et au Nepal juste avant, ca n'a pas suffit a preparer mon estomac a labas🤪 mais ca vaut la peine !!!!
Superbe region un grand moment pour moi meme si il est vrai j'ai ete beaucoup malade entre ma premiere experience en relative haute altitude en plus de manger chez l'habitant, malgre 5mois en Inde et au Nepal juste avant, ca n'a pas suffit a preparer mon estomac a labas🤪 mais ca vaut la peine !!!!
« Il n’y a d’homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie », écrivait Lama rtine.
Salut,
J'ai fait pas mal de "trekkings" un peu à ta façon mais pas accompagné d'un Rimpoche.. Tu l'as connu comment?Tu avais du matériel de camping ou tu logeais systématiquement chez l'habitant? J'ai fait un long périple dans les années 80 dans la région du Kangchenjungha; j'en garde un bon souvenir mais c'était très dur question logement et nourriture .Je ne me sens plus capable de recommencer l'expérience sans"accompagnateur" pour trouver à loger. sans trop galérer... 7 semaines?! rien que dans le Humla? tu as dû faire un sacré périple car il me semble qu'en 2 ou 3 semaines tu peux faire un circuit qui te mène jusqu'à la frontière non?
J'ai fait pas mal de "trekkings" un peu à ta façon mais pas accompagné d'un Rimpoche.. Tu l'as connu comment?Tu avais du matériel de camping ou tu logeais systématiquement chez l'habitant? J'ai fait un long périple dans les années 80 dans la région du Kangchenjungha; j'en garde un bon souvenir mais c'était très dur question logement et nourriture .Je ne me sens plus capable de recommencer l'expérience sans"accompagnateur" pour trouver à loger. sans trop galérer... 7 semaines?! rien que dans le Humla? tu as dû faire un sacré périple car il me semble qu'en 2 ou 3 semaines tu peux faire un circuit qui te mène jusqu'à la frontière non?
J'ai dormis pratiquement tjs chez l'habitant parceque j'etais l'invite de Rinpoche et que dans tout les villages il etait attendu, ensuite les conditions etaient il est vrai difficile. Dormir mi interieur exterieur, genre sur la terrasse de la maison avec parfois une bache ou non pour couper de l'air, evidement a meme le sol parfois sur les tapis des chevaux ou je me faisaint devorer par les puces ( revenu a ktm en regardant mes mains on pouvait croire que j'avais la varisselle)> La nourriture a ete une epreuve je croyais mon estomac un peu pres solide a la suite de 4, 5mois en Inde mais non Labas je me suis vide comme jamais, le jour, la nuit jusqu'a deux semaines consecutives, comme on etait invite j'avais droit a tout ce qu'ils adorent alors que c'etait le pire de mes cauchemards de la viande pouriie au soleil pendant des jours ou plus avec des thes au beurre ou au fromage de yachs et des epinards d'altitude, meme en arretant viande et produit laitier mon estomac etait liquefie🏴☠️
Bon sinon j'ai quand meme au bout du compte passe plus temps en pleine forme que malade mais ce sont les inconvenients de chez l'habitant et puis on venait nous chercher avec des chevaux😇 ensuite nous avons aussi passe une semaine sous tente a un hermitage et j'ai aussi passe 2 semaines en monastere.
En effet en mois de 2 semaines tu peux rejoindre la border meme le mont Kailash je pense mais nous restions une semaine ici, une semaine labas au gres des requetes des Lamas et des pratiques... ce n'etait pas un trek >
En effet en mois de 2 semaines tu peux rejoindre la border meme le mont Kailash je pense mais nous restions une semaine ici, une semaine labas au gres des requetes des Lamas et des pratiques... ce n'etait pas un trek >
« Il n’y a d’homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie », écrivait Lama rtine.
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I’d also love your advice on the best time to travel for wildlife viewing and pleasant weather.
I haven’t chosen a tour operator yet... since I’m traveling solo, I’d prefer a small-group escorted trip. Has anyone traveled with a local agency and what’s your feedback or advice?
Thanks so much!
I’m taking a month-long trip to northern Argentina throughout September. Buenos Aires, Iguazu, Salta, Humahuaca, Cafayate, and if time allows, La Rioja. I’m unsure about what clothes to pack. What are the temperatures like in September?
Thanks for your great tips!
Dominerja
hi
It seems that in recent years, January and February in Bohol have seen an increase in rainy periods. Have any of you noticed this?
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there,
I’m thinking of visiting Cap Corse in the second half of February, specifically Rogliano. Renting a house.
I’ve been told, “Oh no, not a good time—it’s the season for strong winds, Mistral, Tramontane, etc.” What do you all think? I’m now hesitating
I’ve been told, “Oh no, not a good time—it’s the season for strong winds, Mistral, Tramontane, etc.” What do you all think? I’m now hesitating
Hello, We’re heading to Finnish Lapland near Rovaniemi as a family at the end of February with two kids (8 and 14 years old). We’ve got direct flights with Luxairstours. The itinerary is already set, but I’m wondering if anyone has traveled with Luxair before and knows exactly what kind of clothes they provide on the second day? The agency just told me it’s a heavy-duty cold-weather suit. I’m thinking we should get Sorel Caribou boots, maybe second-hand. Here’s what I’ve already planned:
- Thermolactyl leggings and tights from Damart for the whole family as a base layer.
- A first layer of Damart socks + Nordic Stocks socks in 70% merino wool for all four of us.
- Loose fleece layers, including some Polartec.
- Ski pants for hikes.
- For my son and me, a The North Face Himalayan down parka with a hood.
- A ski parka for my husband and my 14-year-old daughter (she *really* wants a Roxy one—I hope it’ll be warm enough).
- For myself, for the flight and the first day at Santa’s village, I’ve packed The North Face winter hiking pants, a long-sleeve merino wool top from Decathlon (thin), a fleece, and my big parka.
I’m wondering if I should just pack fleece joggers or sweatpants for the kids and my husband, at least for the first and last days, to be comfortable on the plane? I’m also planning to buy balaclavas and neck warmers in addition to our beanies, as well as mittens for all of us. I really need advice because I have no idea—I’ve never been skiing! Also, for a 4-night, 5-day trip, should I pack a second set of base layers, like from Odlo?
Of course, I’ll be leaving cotton clothes out of the suitcase.
As you can tell, I’m someone who gets cold easily—especially my feet, hands, and ears—so that’s my biggest worry. I *don’t* want to be cold, even at -20°C during dog sledding, snowmobiling, or aurora hunting when we might be standing still. We won’t be in the city, and the kids will likely spend most of their time outside, as they usually do.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m wondering if I should just pack fleece joggers or sweatpants for the kids and my husband, at least for the first and last days, to be comfortable on the plane? I’m also planning to buy balaclavas and neck warmers in addition to our beanies, as well as mittens for all of us. I really need advice because I have no idea—I’ve never been skiing! Also, for a 4-night, 5-day trip, should I pack a second set of base layers, like from Odlo?
Of course, I’ll be leaving cotton clothes out of the suitcase.
As you can tell, I’m someone who gets cold easily—especially my feet, hands, and ears—so that’s my biggest worry. I *don’t* want to be cold, even at -20°C during dog sledding, snowmobiling, or aurora hunting when we might be standing still. We won’t be in the city, and the kids will likely spend most of their time outside, as they usually do.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi there!
I’m planning a 10-day trip to Greenland in early August.
Could anyone tell me what kind of weather and temperatures to expect?
I’ve heard there are mosquitoes—is that true?
Thanks!😊
Sunny destinations in October???
Not too much rain.
Martinique, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Mauritius, Cape Verde, or somewhere else?????
Any tips? Thanks for your help



