Bonjour,
mon projet est de gagner le Laos par voie terrestre en utilisant le stop et le bus comme moyens de déplacement, le point de départ étant le sud de la France.
Jusqu'en Turquie, nul besoin de visa mais c'est une autre musique des l'Iran.
Ma question est simple: Est-il possible d'obtenir un visa turkmène, ouzbèke en Iran, un visa kirghize en Ouzbékistan, un visa chinois au Kirghizistan, un visa lao en Chine?????
Voila, c'est tout.
Merci par avance pour l'aide qui me sera apportée à la résolution de mon équation.
"L'homme qui veut détruire le monde est la contre-partie de l'imbécile qui veut le sauver. Le monde n'a besoin ni d'un destructeur, ni d'un sauveur. Le monde est, nous sommes"henry Miller
moi j'ai prévu à peu près le même trajet, mais à vélo (je passerai au laos pour aller de chine en thailande)
en gros: france-italie-yougoslavie-bulgarie-turquie-iran-turmenistan-ousbekistan-khirghizistan-chine-laos-thailande (et peut être retour par inde-pakistan-iran-turquie-vallée du danube-suisse).
après l'iran, tu peux aussi passer par le pakistan et prendre un ferry ou un avion à calcutta pour bangkok (pour éviter la birmanie qu'il est impossible de traverser par voie terrestre) ou encore faire iran-pakistan-inde-népal-chine (mais je crois qu'il faut être en groupe pour passer la frontière népal-chine).
cette option ne me semble pas avantageuse: il faut arriver à avoir un visa pour le pakistan (ce qui me semble un peu difficile mais sûrement pas impossible) puis pour l'inde (le visa indien débute à la date de ta demande, pas à la date que tu veux) et surtout trouver le moyen de passer la frontière pakistan-inde (ça arrive que tous les points de passages soient fermés à cause des tensions entre ces deux pays...).
tu peux aussi faire iran-pakistan-chine par la karakoram highway.
tu passeras alors par le col de routier le plus haut du monde (4693 m)
libre à toi de choisir ton itinéraire, je vais te donner les renseignements que j'ai récupéré pour le mien et la marche que je compte suivre pour obtenir mes visas.
turquie:
istambul:
1-visa touristique pour l'ouzbekistan au consulat d'ouzbekistan (visa de 1 mois, 80 €)
2-visa de transit de 5 jours pour le turkmenistan au consulat du turkmenistan (nécessite le visa pour l'ouzbekistan, le visa touristique turkmène est plus cher et plus long à obtenir)
3-demande au consulat d'iran d'avoir un visa touristique de 2 ou 3 mois et de retirer ton visa au consulat d'erzurum (comme ça tu n'as pas à attendre à istambul et tu peux te diriger vers erzurum et la frontière iranienne pendant le temps que ton visa se fait)
erzurum:retrait de ton visa iranien.
frontière turco-iranienne à gurbulak-bazagran (après doyugabazit en turquie)
frontière irano-turkmène à sarahs-sarakhs (après mashad en iran)
frontière turkmèno-ouzbèke entre farah pristan et khal'fa (après turkmenabat/chardzou/chärjew au turkmenistan)
ouzbekistan:
taskent:visa khirghize de 1 mois à l'ambassade du khirghizistan (ça depend sur qui tu tombes. y a une grosse bonne-femme qui te le fait en 3 jours pour $40 et un jour pour 80, le mec te le fait dans l’apres-midi pour $40.Vas-y pour 8 h du matin, il paraît qu’il y a du monde.) c’est peut-être possible d’avoir un visa de transit si on fait son visa chinois avant, je n’ai trouvé aucune info là-dessus.visa chinois à l’ambassade de chine (lundi, mercredi et vendredi de 9h a 12h. il faut compter 5 jours et $30 tu peux l’obtenir en 1 jours pour $50 ou $60. Ils vont te demander de laisser ton passeport mais tu n’y es pas obligé.) ça t’évite de traverser le khirghizistan pour aller à l’ambassade de chine à bishkek.
Après tu peux choisir de passer par la vallée de fergana et traverser 200 km de tadjikistan (il faut alors prévoir un visa double entrée pour l’ouzbekistan et de prendre un visa pour le tadjikistan à taskent (visa de transit de 1 ou 2 jours, $50). ça me semble un peu cher pour 200 km, je vais passer par la vallée d’angren et un col de 2300m pour rejoindre kokand en évitant le tadjkistan.
frontière ouzbèko-khirghize entre nariman et osh
frontière khirghizo-chinoise :
là il y a deux cols ouverts (je crois): irkeshtam/erkeshtam (entre sary-tash et kashgar) et torugart (entre naryn et kashgar).
irkeshtam vient d’être ouvert, je vais essayer par là pour pouvoir passer à vélo mais je ne sais pas encore si c’est possible.
pour passer par torugart il faut trouver un transport a naryn (qui est assez cher) jusqu'au col et arranger un transport du col vers kashgar avec un vehicule chinois ($160 la descente jusqu’à kashgar je crois). en plus pour arriver à naryn, il faut se taper plein de cols à plus de 2000 en traversant le khirghizistan.
chine:
kunming :visa lao au consulat du laos: info de Olivier Rula - "Tu peux obtenir ton visa au consulat de Kunming qui se trouve dans le block 1 de l'hotel Camellia. Demande a obtenir un visa Non Immigrant / B3 qui te permettra de rester, pour le meme prix, 30 jours (contre 14 pour un visa tourisme). Le visa s'obtient en 3 jours et doit etre "consommé" dans les 2 mois. Tu peux passer la frontière au poste de Mohan/Boten."
Sinon on peut l'obtenir au poste frontière de boten (au sud de mengla en chine).
(cf : http://laolink.orientxtreme.com/tourisme/guide.htm)
$30 pour un visa de 15 jours prolongeable deux fois, pour une durée de 15 jours, donc au maximum 1 mois et demi…
mais si tu as un bon pote qui est dans le business au Laos, fais-lui écrire une lettre de recommandation, c'est magique... plus de visa à payer.
et attention: les étrangers fréquentant des laotiennes sans être mariés risquent la confiscation du passeport, une amende ($1000 ou plus) et une peine de prison!
attention aussi aux mines ou autres explosifs qu’il pourrait rester de la guerre d’indochine : à la campagne ne sors jamais des routes!
fais aussi attention à ça quand tu est près des frontières (je pense particulièrement à celles de turquie-iran, iran-turkmenistan, khirghizistan-chine) et dans la vallée de fergana.
un dernier bon truc: si tu as le choix, prend le train plutôt que le bus: dans un train tu peux marcher, te coucher et aller pisser sans problème tout le temps, pas en bus! en plus les places dans les bus sont vraiment petites si tu as de grandes jambes! et sur les routes de montagne ne te mets jamais à l'arrière du bus! en inde en montant à manali j'étais tout derrière et je faisais des bonds de 60 cm à chaque nid de poule! (tous les 2 mètres 20…)
voilà…
j’espère que ça va t’aider, moi ça m’a permis de tout récapituler. 😉
si tu veux, je peux t’envoyer un dossier avec les meilleures cartes en .jpg que j’aie trouvées et un récapitulatif des villes où je vais passer avec des adresses utiles et celles des ambassades. je peux aussi t’envoyer la liste de toutes mes étapes sur google earth (la terre en vues sattelite).
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
Salut,
je tiens à te remercier pour la masse d'infos que tu m'as fait parvenir....cela me sera utile mais pas pour l'instant car j'ai remis mon départ pour des raisons sentimentales.
Toujours est-il que je ferais ce voyage tôt ou tard donc l'ensemble de tes indications me sera précieux lors de l'élaboration de mon périple.
J'espère avoir de tes nouvelles afin de connaître tes impressions et ton ressenti.
Encore mille mercis pour ton message.
A plus.
olive
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I’m a French citizen living in Switzerland, and I set up an RV LLC in Montana, USA. Through that, I was able to register 3 vehicles (an RV, a Jeep, and a Harley) with Montana plates.
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It was closed for a while.
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Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
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This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
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We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
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Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
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Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
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Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
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I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
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From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
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She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
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1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
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Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
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I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
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