Nous partons cette été avec nos deux enfants de 7 et 4 ans en Californie pour 21 jours. Suivant les différents postes vus sur ce forum (merci d'ailleurs aux contributeurs), j'ai élaboré le trajet suivant:
J1+J2+J3 SF (3 nuits)
J4+J5 Départ pour Monterey (2 nuits)
J6+J7 Yosemite (2 nuits)
J8 Mammoth lake (1 nuit)
J9 Death Valley (1 nuit)
J10 Las vegas (1 nuit)
J11 Zion Park (1 nuit)
J12 Bryce Canyon (1 nuit)
J13+J14 Lake Powell (2 nuits)
J15 Grand Canyon (1 nuit)
J16 Needles (1 nuit)
J17 Barstow (1 nuit)
J18+J19 St Diego (2 nuits)
J20+21 LA (1 nuit)
Etant donné le nombre de kilomètres (2017 miles), j'hésite à aller du côté de Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, ..et couper à vallée de la mort pour revenir vers San Diego. Mes enfants ont l'habitude la route mais j'hésite je dois dire.
J'aimerais avoir l'expérience de personne qui ont fait ce périple en 3 semaines avec des jeunes enfants et leur avis et sur le programme ci-dessus et sur le fait de le faire avec des jeunes enfants,
Le programme est bon, et ça serait dommage de ne pas faire la partie des parcs de l'Utah, la plus belle partie du voyage à mon avis ...
Cela se traîne un peu entre Needles et Barstow. Qu'avez-vous prévu ?
Je modifierais cette partie du voyage afin de passer plutôt par Joshua Tree NP pour rejoindre San Diego : 1 nuit Needles avec parcours sur la route 66 -ne manquez pas Oatman) puis route vers le Sud avec traversée de Joshua Tree NP et nuit du côté de Palm Springs.
Comme Thibaud SAUF
- la nuit à Needles, celle que vous pouvez "gagner" - il est TRÈS dommage de ne pas aller à Monument Valley, lieu hautement symbolique et mythique de l'ouest ( à caser entre Page et Grand Canyon)
Pour les enfants, je ne sais pas. L'été dans les parcs est extrêmement chaud.
Avez-vs déjà vos billets d’avion ?
Sinon, je vs conseillerais une arrivée à Phoenix (ou Las Vegas) et un retour depuis San Diego, pour économiser des km (évite le long trajet Gd Canyon - San Diego):
J1 : Arrivée à Phoenix
J2 : Phoenix – Apache Trail – Sedona (sunset)
J3 : Sedona (balade matinale)– Rte 89 A le long de l’Oak Creek (Slide Rock SP pour faire trempette🙂) – Williams (Rte 66) – Grand Canyon au sunset
J4 : Grand Canyon
J5 : Grand Canyon – Monument Valley
J6 : Monument Valley – Page
J7 : Page
J8 : Page – Bryce Canyon
J9 : Bryce – Zion
J10 : Zion – Valley of Fire – Las Vegas
J11 : Las Vegas – Death Valley
J12 : Death Valley – Lee Vining
J13 : Tioga Pass Rd – Yosemite Valley
J14 : Yosemite
J15 : Yosemite – SF
J16 : SF
J17 : SF
J18 : SF – Monterey
J19 : Monterey – Santa Barbara
J20 : Santa Barbara – San Diego
J21 : San Diego
J22 : San Diego et vol retour
Ou
J1 : Arrivée à Las Vegas
J2 : Las Vegas – barrage Hoover Dam – Rte 66 – Grand Canyon
Vs gagnez donc 1 jour, à replacer où vs voulez (Page ? Las Vegas ? SF ? San Diego ?)
L’arrivée à Phoenix permet de découvrir l’Apache Trail et ses milliers de saguaros, cactus emblématiques de l’ouest américain (voir les BD Lucky Luke😉) mais que vs ne verrez pas ailleurs sur votre circuit puisqu’ils ne poussent pas plus au nord.
L’arrivée à Phoenix (ou Las Vegas) évite de faire le long trajet (qui fait perdre 1 jour de vacances) entre Grand Canyon et LA/San Diego (trajet où il n’y a pas grand-chose à voir, à moins de faire un détour comme aller à Joshua Tree + Palm Springs)
La + belle partie de la côte est située entre Monterey et Cambria (votre projet prévoit uniquement le trajet SF-Monterey🤪)
En été, avec de jeunes enfants, j’opterais aussi pour la côte en entier (en espérant qu’il n’y ait pas de brume😇) où ils ne souffriront pas de chaud (contrairement aux parcs).
Pour le grand, pensez au programme des "juniors rangers" ds les parcs (généralement les enfants sont fiers de collectionner leur badge et ça les motive à se balader et à s’intéresser à ce qu’ils découvrent).
Voir ces carnets qui donnent plein d’idées pour rendre le voyage attractif pour des enfants:
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6689140#6689140
voyageforum.com/...post=6195384#6195384
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5492396#5492396
(et celui-ci http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6116879#6116879 qui montre que l'ouest américain en été avec de jeunes enfants n'est pas tjs si évident)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Nos filles avaient exactement cet âge lors de notre premier voyage en Amérique du Nord avec enfants. Nous avions visé les Rocheuses Canadiennes pour des raisons climatiques en reportant les deserts du Sud-ouest à des vacances de printemps.
Je laisserais de côté Death Valley pour me concentrer sur Yosemite et Sequoia (les arbres géants, ca plaît aux petits).
Bonjour Florence,
3 jours a San Francisco, tres bien, conservez votre voiture.
Pour les visites de notre ville de San Francisco, voyez mon blog en bas de page et a votre service pour toute info.
2 nuits a Monterey, que comptez vous visiter a a part l'aquarium? Puisque vous allez aussi a San Diego vous avez un aquarium d'une autre sorte, tres bon pour les enfants, ainsi que le zoo. Il y a Animal Park au Nord de San Diego, la visite se fait en partie par un petit train. J'y amenais ma petite fille et elle adorait cet endroit.
Le trajet Monterey/Yosemite est tout entier sur des petites routes, vous avez au moins 4 heures de trajet.
2 nuits a Yosemite, dans le Park, hors du Park. Vous devriez vous depecher de faire vos reservations. Il est possible que de trouver a vous loger a l'interieur du Park soit deja trop tard.
Peut-etre qu'une seule nuit a l'Ouest du Park, El Portal par exemple et l'autre nuit a Lee Vinbing a l'Est du Park vous ferai gagner du temps.
En ete les chutes d'eau seront a sec, et Mariposa Grove est fermee.
Le temps que vous pourriez economiser ainsi pourrait etre reporte dans les Parks de l'Utah.
Arret a Needles, je vous le deconseille. Il n'y a absolument rien a voir et de plus Needles est la ville la plus chaude des USA. Il peut y faire 50 degres.
Pour un petit detour qui ferait plaisir aux enfants, oatman sur la Route 66, avec ses anes en liberte. Si vous y passez, munissez vous de carottes pour nourrir les anes😏
Sur la Route 66 entre Needles et Barstow vous avez Amboy cafe.
Depuis Amboy vous pouvez couper vers San Diego en passant par Josuha Tree en evtant Los Angeles.
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Merci pour cette réponse détaillée ! C est vraiment sympa ! Je n ai pas encore réservée mes vols. Je vais revoir mon itinéraire en fonction de vos conseils. Merci infiniment
Des choses très simples et assez courtes pendant les vacances de printemps (deux semaines à cheval sur avril - mai):
En 2006, boucle au départ de Las Vegas (peu de km, beaucoup de balades):
LV (2j - Excalibur), Grand Canyon (3j - Yavapai Lodge, incluant hélico Papillon), Monument Valley (1 j Goulding's Lodge), Page (1j - Super 8), Bryce Canyon (4j - Bryce Canyon Lodge), Zion (2J - Zion Lodge), LV (1J - Circus Circus) avec 2 spectacles du Cirque du Soleil (Mystère et Ô), la traversée d'Escalante par la Cottonwood Canyon Road (son arche et ses lièvres géants), avec la visite de Kodachrome Basin avant Bryce.
.. la suite au prochain épisode, on m'appelle!
Deuxième épisode, deux semaines en avril-mai 2011 Salt-Lake-City-Las Vegas:
Salt Lake City (1j - Hilton Garden Inn), Moab (5j - Kokopelli Golf Condo), Bryce Canyon Lodge (3j, Bryce Canyon Lodge), Las Vegas (1j - Paris), Death Valley (2j, Stovepipe Wells), Las Vegas (1j - MGM Grand).
Même philosophie, peu de km, beaucoup de randos dans Arches, Canyonlands (Chesler Park notamment), Bryce (gelé) et Death Valley (BadlandsSalt Flats, Mosaic Canyon), ce qui est impossible en été, zap de Zion (si ce n'est une visite du Kolob Canyon, jamais visité auparavant) et deux spectacles à Vegas (Phantom of the Opera et Kâ du Cirque du Soleil).
Vous l'aurez compris, je ne suis pas fana de visiter le Grand Canyon, Moab et Death Valley sous la canicule avec des enfants. Début mai, à Mosaic Canyon, on a bu toute notre eau de 8h à 10h (30°C+) du matin, et pourtant on en avait emporté, je n'ose imaginer en été. J'ai visité le Sud-Ouest à d'autres saisons il y a plus longtemps, septembre, octobre, novembre. Mai est idéal. Les fleurs. Les enfants adoreront marcher sur des chemins un peu escarpés (mais pas trop) et découvrir des arches et autres curiosités géologiques au bout d'une balade.
Comme nous partons plus souvent en voyage pendant les vacances d'été, c'est en été que nous avons reporté les régions montagneuses et la côte. Depuis quelques années, nous sommes de plus en plus attirés par les régions nordiques (Alaska, Yukon, T. N.-O., Terre-Neuve et Norvège, Norvège, Norvège... le plus beau pays d'Europe) pour le calme, les espaces vierges et l'isolement (relatif). Mais les déserts commencent à me manquer, il va bientôt falloir y retourner.
Avec un enfant de 4 ans, il faut vraiment de la petite balade. Au Canada, les tours de lacs sont parfaits et on peut faire certaines approches ne montagne, mais dès que ça monte vraiment, ça devient difficile. A Bryce et Yosemite, beaucoup de balades courtes sont possibles. Je pense que les petits auraient aimé Sequoia (balades peu escarpées avec arbres magiques et écureuils au bord du chemin pour entretenir la motivation... et quelques ours aussi mais ne vous inquiétez pas pour ça).
Merci pour les partages des autres carnets de voyage. Du coup, j'ai revu mon itinéraire me disant que le Grand Canyon, ...serait trop chaud pour les enfants et bcp de km (on reviendra les faire pendant une période moins chaude). Je me suis dit que l'idée de faire la cote serait pas mal pour un premier voyage. Voici une ébauche d'itinéraire sachant qu'on veut vraiment arriver à SF et repartir de LA.
J1+J2+J3 SF
J4+J5 Yosemite
J6+J7 Sequoia
J8+J9 Monterey
J10 St Louis Obispo
J11+12 Santa Barbara
J13+J14 Palm Springs
J15+J16 Joshua National Tree
J17 Oatman
J18+19+20 LA
J21 départ
Joshua Tree est un four en été. Oatman depuis Palm Springs sera une épreuve !
Descendez plutôt vers San Diego : plages et magnifique zoo pour les enfants.....et les adultes aussi.
La Côte Pacifique en été c'est 75% de chance de la faire dans le brouillard. Je trouve ça extrêmement dommage d'y consacrer autant de temps et de laisser tomber les grands parcs nationaux.
Bonjour Florence,
Je ne peux que rajouter a ce que vous a dit Itat.
L'ete, tout le long de la cote et a San Francisco vous pouvez avoir des periodes de brouillard qui durent plusieurs jours, 24/24, et en plus de cela, il y a presque toujours du vent qui vient avec le brouillard. Je me souviens d'avoir fait le marathon de San Francisco un mois de Juillet et avoir eu froid😕
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
"on veut vraiment arriver à SF et repartir de LA."
Dommage... votre circuit aurait été + cool et + varié avec une arrivée à Phoenix (ou Las Vegas) et un retour depuis LA (ou San Diego).
Ça vs laissait tout de même différentes possibilités pour trouver des billets d’avion à prix acceptable (arrivée depuis Phoenix ou Las Vegas, et retour depuis LA ou San Diego). Je suppose que vs avez testé les différentes configurations et que vs n’avez rien trouvé🤪
Si vs n’envisagez pas la côte de Monterey à Cambria (qu’il vaut mieux faire ds le sens SF> LA pour être au plus près de la côte), voyez alors aussi quel est le prix des billets d’avion en tournant votre projet ds l’autre sens : arrivée à LA et retour depuis SF.
Cela vs permettrait de faire la boucle des parcs autour de Las Vegas en commençant par le Grand Canyon, et surtout d’insérer la visite de Valley of Fire vers 17h, entre Zion et Las Vegas (en sens inverse, vs seriez obligée de quitter Las Vegas à 5-6h du mat’ pour arriver tôt à Valley of Fire : après 9h du mat’ en été, il y fait déjà étouffant😕)
arrivée à LA > San Diego > Joshua Tree NP ?? (four en été) > Rte 66 (Oatman, Seligman, Williams)> Grand Canyon> Monument Valley >Page > Bryce > Zion > Valley of Fire > Las Vegas > Death Valley > Lone Pine (Alabama Hills) > Lee Vining (Bodie + Mono Lake) > Tioga Pass Rd > Yosemite > Monterey > SF et vol retour
Mais selon moi, ce circuit est trop chargé pour être réalisé en seulement 3 semaines en plein été avec 2 jeunes enfants.
Si vs voulez rester raisonnable et avoir du temps pour prévoir des haltes et activités spécifiques pour vos enfants:
- soit vs basez l’essentiel de votre voyage en Californie (c’est vrai que ce n’est pas la partie la + dépaysante de l’ouest américain, mais vos enfants y trouveront du plaisir sans souffrir de chaleur).
Et cela vs permet de garder vos lieux d’arrivée/départ (LA et SF).
- soit, vs faites la boucle des parcs autour de Las Vegas (c’est vrai que pour vous, parents, c’est le + dépaysant), et vs supprimez du programme une bonne partie de la Californie (Death Valley, Yosemite, Monterey et SF).
Mais cela vs oblige à prévoir le vol retour depuis Las Vegas (et là, on en revient à la problématique de départ : quid du prix des billets d’avion ?)
Pour rester cool (limiter les km et prévoir plusieurs nuits consécutives au même endroit), et contenter parents comme enfants, j’aurais bien vu ceci comme parcours :
J1 : Arrivée à Phoenix
J2 : Phoenix – Apache Trail – Sedona
J3 : Sedona
J4 : Sedona – Rte 89 A le long de l’Oak Creek – Williams (Rte 66) – Grand Canyon au sunset
J5 : Grand Canyon
J6 : Grand Canyon – Monument Valley
J7 : Monument Valley – Page
J8 : Page
J9 : Page
J10 : Page – Bryce Canyon
J11 : Bryce – Zion
J12 : Zion – Valley of Fire – Las Vegas
J13 : Las Vegas
J14 : Las Vegas – Death Valley
J15 : Death Valley – Joshua Tree NP
J16 : Joshua Tree NP – San Diego
J17 : San Diego
J18 : San Diego
J19 : San Diego – LA
J20 : LA
J21 : LA
Mais encore une fois, on en revient à la même problématique : ça vs oblige à changer vos aéroports d’arrivée/départ par rapport à votre projet.
A vous de voir !
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
"Du coup je vais revenir à mon itinéraire initial"
Une suggestion de parcours qui reprend votre projet initial (avec LA et SF comme aéroports d’arrivée/départ) en associant la boucle des parcs autour de Las Vegas + la Californie (sauf Joshua Tree, Monterey et la côte):
J1 : arrivée à LA
J2 : LA
J3 : LA – San Diego
J4 : San Diego
J5 : San Diego
J6 : San Diego – Las Vegas
(5heures de route peu intéressante, mais ça évite le trajet San Diego-Grand Canyon qui est encore bien + long)
J7 : Las Vegas
J8 : Las Vegas – Hoover Dam – Rte 66 – Grand Canyon (Hermit Rest Rd + sunset)
J9 : Grand Canyon (Desert View Drive) – Monument Valley
J10 : Monument Valley – Page
J11 : Page – Bryce Canyon
J12 : Bryce (matin) – Zion (aprèm)
J13 : Zion (matin) – Valley of Fire (3h jusqu’au sunset) – nuit à Overton
J14 : Valley of Fire (sunrise > 10h00) – Death Valley/Furnace Creek (piscine puis visite 16h > sunset)
J15 : Death Valley (Mesquite Sand Dunes) – Lone Pine (Alabama Hills) – Sequoia NP
J16 : Sequoia NP (tte la journée) – Oakhurst
J17 : Oakhurst – Yosemite Valley
J18 : Yosemite – SF
J19 : SF
J20 : SF
J21 : retour depuis SF
Mais c’est + long et le rythme est forcément bien + soutenu que celui du circuit proposé ds mon message précédent : de J8 à J17 il faut changer d’hébergement chaque jour😕 et il est aussi dommage de ne pas avoir le temps de se poser qq jours à Page/lac Powel.
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Merci Beaucoup de votre réponse et suggestions. Et surtout pour ces deux programmes proposés! C est vraiment tres sympa ! Je vais regarder les vols depuis Phoenix si Ca pourrait aller niveau budget ! Merci infiniment et bon we
" Je vais regarder les vols depuis Phoenix si Ca pourrait aller niveau budget ! "
Tant qu’à regarder le prix des vols, voyez les différentes possibilités d'aéroports pour l'arrivée et le retour, qui sont multiples selon le voyage que vs voulez faire.
Pour résumer, si vs voulez faire le voyage comprenant la boucle des parcs autour de Las Vegas + une partie seulement de la Californie, vs pouvez acheter un vol avec une arrivée à Phoenix et un retour depuis LA, ou un vol avec une arrivée à LA et un retour depuis Las Vegas
Arrivée à Phoenix et retour depuis LA , pour faire ce trajet :
J1 : Arrivée à Phoenix
J2 : Phoenix – Apache Trail – Sedona
J3 : Sedona
J4 : Sedona – Rte 89 A le long de l’Oak Creek – Williams (Rte 66) – Grand Canyon au sunset
J5 : Grand Canyon
J6 : Grand Canyon – Monument Valley
J7 : Monument Valley – Page
J8 : Page
J9 : Page
J10 : Page – Bryce Canyon
J11 : Bryce – Zion
J12 : Zion – Valley of Fire – Las Vegas
J13 : Las Vegas
J14 : Las Vegas – Death Valley
J15 : Death Valley – Joshua Tree NP
J16 : Joshua Tree NP – San Diego
J17 : San Diego
J18 : San Diego
J19 : San Diego – LA
J20 : LA
J21 : LA et vol retour
Arrivée à LA et un retour depuis Las Vegas, pour faire ce trajet (qui est presque identique au précédent) :
J1 : arrivée à LA
J2 : LA
J3 : LA – San Diego
J4 : San Diego
J5 : San Diego
J6 : San Diego – Joshua Tree NP
J7 : Joshua Tree NP – Phoenix
J8 : Phoenix – Apache Trail – Sedona
J9 : Sedona
J10 : Sedona – Rte 89 A le long de l’Oak Creek – Williams (Rte 66) – Grand Canyon
J11 : Grand Canyon – Monument Valley
J12 : Monument Valley – Page
J13 : Page
J14 : Page
J15 : Page – Bryce Canyon
J16 : Bryce – Zion
J17 : Zion – Valley of Fire
J18 : Valley of Fire – Death Valley
J19 : Death Valley – Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : Las Vegas et vol retour
Ces 2 variantes ressemblent au voyage dont je vs ai déjà donné le lien du carnet de voyage
Et l’autre possibilité de faire aussi un voyage "cool" est donc celui qui est basé essentiellement sur la Californie, du genre :
J1 : arrivée à LA
J2 : LA
J3 : LA – San Diego
J4 : San Diego
J5 : San Diego
J6 : San Diego – Las Vegas
J7: Las Vegas
J8: Las Vegas – Valley of Fire
J9: Valley of Fire – Death Valley
J10 : Death Valley – Lone Pine (Alabama Hills) – Sequoia NP
J11 : Sequoia NP (tte la journée) – Oakhurst
J12 : Oakhurst – Yosemite
J13 : Yosemite
J14 : Yosemite – SF
J15 : SF
J16 : SF
J17 : SF – Monterey
J18 : Monterey – Santa Barbara
J19 : Santa Barbara – LA
J20 : LA
J21 : vol retour
Vu que cet itinéraire fait une boucle complète, vs pouvez regarder pour acheter un vol avec arrivée et retour depuis LA, ou un vol avec arrivée et retour depuis SF, ou un vol avec arrivée et retour depuis Las Vegas.
Et dernière possibilité qd vs regarderez le prix des billets d’avion :
acheter un vol avec arrivée à LA et un retour depuis SF si voulez réaliser le voyage proposé ici , mais comme déjà dit, il s’agit d’un voyage + dense, au rythme bcp + soutenu, puisqu’il comprend la boucle des parcs autour de Las Vegas + une grosse partie de la Californie.
Le choix pour les billets d'avion est donc multiple😉
Bonne recherche pour l’achat 🙂
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Merci beaucoup ! La classe trois itinéraires...pas évident de choisir! quand meme le dernier itinéraire me paraît bien et plus cool effectivement. Auriez vous vu un carnet de voyage qui fait ce trajet ? pour Yosemite auriez vous une recommandation pour le logement ? Merci Bcp et bon we
Remarques :
- Attention tout de même à ne pas prévoir trop de jours rien que sur la côte californienne qui, comme on l’a déjà dit, peut se retrouver ds le brouillard en été (et ds ce cas, les paysages ont beau être magnifiques, on ne voit pas grand-chose😕)
- Si vs basez votre voyage rien que sur la Californie, le voyage sera relax🙂, mais vs ne verrez pas les fameux parcs aux roches rouges de l’Utah et de l’Arizona si typiques de l’ouest américain 🤪(Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Bryce, Zion , région de Page, région de Sedona, etc...). Mais si vs prévoyez déjà un autre voyage + tard pour voir ces fameux parcs, ça peut être une bonne idée de ne prévoir essentiellement que la Californie pour ce 1er voyage, tant que vos enfants sont encore très jeunes.
Pour des infos précises sur la Californie (en matière de balades et visites hors des sentiers battus), voyez avec Cefdc9 et Aquilegia qui habitent sur place et dont les conseils sont tjs pertinents et fiables.
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Pour le trajet et notamment pour Yosemite, quel est l intérêt de s arrêter pour une nuit à Oakhurst qui est proche de Yosemite et ensuite deux nuits à Yosemite même? Quel est l idéal pour visiter Yosemite avec des enfants ? Deux nuits au même endroit ou changer de lieux ? Merci beaucoup de votre aide
Oakhurst n'est qu'une suggestion (en J11, vs pouvez parfaitement prévoir de dormir près de Sequoia NP, surtout si vs prévoyez aussi Kings Canyon)
En fait, l'emplacement de vos nuits dépend du programme prévu aux Sequoia/Kings Canyon et au Yosemite (multiples possibilités de randonnées à choisir en fonction des aptitudes de chacun)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Super merci de votre rapide réponse ! On pense dormir dans le park de Yosemite. Par contre j ai vu aussi que des personnes hésitent entre la visite de Sequoia ou plutôt la route par Bodie...qu en pensez vous ?
merci Bcp :)
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I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate.
It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby;
- the very family-friendly atmosphere;
- the monasteries in incredible landscapes;
- the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap;
- the atmosphere of Geghard;
- the cliffs of Noravank;
- the food;
- the feeling of safety;
- the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected;
- some roads are mountainous;
- avoid overloading the day;
- it’s better to have a driver or a car;
- plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals;
- a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites;
- a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan
Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap
Day 3: Garni + Geghard
Day 4: Noravank + Areni
Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly.
It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing:
22 July: arrival in Johannesburg
Night of 22–23: Johannesburg
Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th)
Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th)
Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?)
Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari)
Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?)
Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales
Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?)
Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th
10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think?
Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice!
We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights.
Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates.
After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend?
Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead?
We don’t want to take any domestic flights.
Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set:
Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Hi there, we're planning our vacation in Indonesia. We're a family with two kids aged 11 and 14. We leave on July 26th and return on August 17th, 2026.
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu
Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu
Morning & afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee
Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee
Nilaveli Beach
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee
Pigeon Island snorkeling
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee
Fort Frederick & relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya
Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya
Sigiriya Rock
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya
Minneriya safari
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya
Polonnaruwa & village tour
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 11 – 04/26: Ella
Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest
Overnight: Ella
Day 12 – 04/27: Ella
Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge
Overnight: Ella
Day 13 – 04/28: Ella
Ella Rock
Overnight: Ella
Day 14 – 04/29: Ella
Tea Factory & relaxation
Overnight: Ella
Day 15 – 04/30: Yala
Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Yala
Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay
Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay
Surfing & relaxation
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay
Local exploration
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo
Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest
Overnight: Colombo
Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo
City tour & shopping
Overnight: Colombo
Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo
Morning return flight from Colombo
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13).
We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊
Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit.
We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places.
We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think?
We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah.
Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary
Day 1
Arrival around 1 PM at the airport
Night in Negombo
Day 2
Drive from Negombo to Galle
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 3
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 4
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Drive from Galle to Udawalawe
Night in Udawalawe
Day 5
Visit Udawalawe National Park
Night in Udawalawe
Day 6
Drive from Udawalawe to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 7
Ella Rock
+ Nine Arch Bridge
Night in Ella
Day 8
Visit Haputale
Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory
Train ride back from Haputale to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 9
Little Adam’s Peak
+ drive from Ella to Arugam Bay
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 10
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 11
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 12
Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 13
Visit Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 14
Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya
Night in Sigiriya
Day 15
Lion Rock and Pidurangala
Night in Sigiriya
Day 16
Visit Dambulla
Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee
Night in Trincomalee
Day 17
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 18
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 19
Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 20
Visit Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 21
Visit Mihintale
Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo
Night in Negombo
Day 22
Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July?
Thanks for your input!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan:
We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options:
- Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van.
- Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia.
- Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:**
- Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe?
- Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest?
- Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?)
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks.
I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there.
Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time.
I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get.
Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts:
- For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days.
- A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!)
- With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes).
We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea.
We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play.
Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us?
We don’t know the region at all.
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon.
06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu
08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok
11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan
13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi
15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL
23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips?
Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting.
- How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us?
- Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower.
- February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring.
- Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area.
After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport.
Thanks in advance for your ideas.
Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?
Hi there, I’m really sorry if this question has already been asked several times—I’ve been scouring blogs, forums, and various sites for a while now, but I still have some more specific questions for our trip...
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok.
Do you think the following route would work?
- Kuta Lombok
- Gili Gede
- Gili Meno
- Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before?
For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts?
To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis?
As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?