Passage du Vietnam au Laos à la frontière en passant par Dien Bien Phu: possible!
by Cecilejl
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Il est possible de passer du Vietnam au Laos en prenant le visa pour le Laos directement à la frontière. Nous venons de le faire en passant par Dien Bien Phu. Prix du visa: 30 dollars. Inutile donc d'aller s'embêter à aller chercher son visa à Saïgon ou à Hanoï
Très bonne question! La réponse doit être connue de tous.... et bien diffusée partout.
Au Laos, la durée du visa est de 30 jours... et pas un mois! Et cela change tout!
Au Cambodge, nous sommes rentrés le 20 novembre et ressortis le 20 décembre. Pas de problème.
Au Vietnam, nous sommes donc rentrés le 20 décembre et ressortis le 17 janvier, mais nous pouvions repasser la frontière le 20 janvier. C'était bien inscrit sur le visa.
Nous sommes donc rentrés au Laos le 17 janvier. Et là, nous n'avons pas vérifié le coup de tampon donné par les Laotiens. Dans notre esprit cela devait être comme dans les autres pays, donc du 17 janvier au 17 février...
Grave erreur! Ils avaient mis la date du 15 février, soit exactement 30 jours et pas une heure de plus... Nous sommes passés le 16 février du Laos en Thaïlande pensant passer naïvement avec un jour d'avance et en toute bonne foi. Quelle ne fut pas notre surprise de devoir payer 10 dollars chacun pour être resté un jour de trop au Laos!
Nos 15 secondes de rouspétance ont eu comme résultat immédiat le blocage de nos passeports et il a fallu payer 20 dollars (10 dollars chacun). Heureusement encore que nous ne sommes pas passés le 17, on aurait eu alors 40 dollars à payer.
On pense qu'ils doivent jouer sur cette ambiguïté et se faire de l'argent en plus avec ceux qui ne regardent pas de plus près les dates des tampons.
Donc, leçon à retenir: Toujours regarder ce qui a été tamponné (les Vietnamiens avaient fait une erreur qu'on pu corriger juste à temps) et surtout se rappeler que 30 jours ce n'est pas la même chose qu'un mois...
BonjourNous arrivons a Hanoi mi avril et le but du voyage est le laos.
La frontiere de Dien Bien Phu ouverte c est une super nouvelle.
Nous n avons pas l habitude de programmer nos voyages et nous aimons bien l impro mais la on n'a pas beaucoup de temps. Et on se pose qq questions : nous voudrions dans un premier temps nous diriger vers le nord est ( Phongsaly).
Quel est le meilleur moyen d'aller de Hanoi et Dien Bien Phu, puis Dien Bien Phu frontiere Muang Khua, Muang Khua Phongsaly
Il y a le bus bien sur mais si j ai bien compris super long et fatiguant.
On est 4 : location de voiture mais peut on traverser la frontiere avec un vehicule de loc vietnamien et après partie en bateau ? en moto ?
Tout conseil bienvenu !
Y compris un avis pour savoir compte tenu que nous n avons que 2 semaines et que les trajets ont vraiement l air tres longs peut être faut il choisir entre le nord est et le nord ouest du laos.
Merci !!
Bonsoir,
Vous pouvez aller sur notre blog pour voir ce que l'on a fait dans cette région:
http://mounyetpapyluc3.canalblog.com/
Pour joindre Muang Khua depuis Dien Bien Phu, je ne pense pas que cela soit tellement plus rapide en voiture car le ralentissement est essentiellement dû aux travaux sur la route avec de très longs temps d'attente (2 à 3 h à 2 reprises...).
On ne sait pas si une voiture de location vietnamienne peut aller jusqu'à Muang Khua. En tout cas, les bus vietnamiens peuvent y aller. Nous n'avons pas changé de bus à la frontière. Il s'agit de petits bus qui peuvent se faufiler assez facilement sur les routes rendues difficiles par les travaux.
En tout cas, depuis Hanoï, un bus vous amènera directement à Dien Bien Phu en passant par Son La. Cela prendra une journée entière. Ne croyez pas certaines personnes à Dien Bien Phu qui vous disent qu'il n'y a pas de bus pour le Laos et qui vous proposent des motos ou des taxis. C'est totalement faux. Le bus part très tôt le matin, à 5 h 30 et a coûté 88 000 dongs par personne. Il nous amène rapidement à la frontière. Mais c'est du côté laotien que les choses traînent en longueur. Les gars en moto ou en taxi nous auraient laissé à la frontière où il n'y a rien... Pour repartir de là cela aurait été la galère! Et ils nous demandaient 150 000 dongs, pour faire seulement 30 km. C'est du n'importe quoi. Donc, surtout ne jamais croire ce qu'on vous raconte. Il faut toujours vérifier soi même, et en douce, sans se faire repérer, car ils s'entendent bien entre eux pour souvent nous mettre en situation d'"otages" et être finalement obligés de passer par eux pour pouvoir continuer notre chemin.
A partir de Muang Khua, pour gagner Phongsaly, le mieux est de prendre un bateau et de remonter la rivière, la Nam Ou. cela coûte plus cher que le bus, mais c'est plus rapide et cela change de mode de déplacement.
Les paysages du nord est du Laos sont plus beaux que dans le nord ouest. On vous conseille plus cette région de Phongsaly, Muang Khua et Nong Khiaw que de l'autre côté. Nous sommes descendus de Muang Khua à Nong Khiaw en bateau et cela reste un de nos plus beaux souvenirs.
Nous avons mis quelques photos de toute cette région sur le blog .
Bon voyage en tout cas.
Ce point de passage est désormais ouvert alors?
Il est resté fermé pendant bien longtemps.
Le plus grand voyageur est celui qui a su faire une fois le tour de lui-même
J ai ete sur votre site, photos qui font envie, vivement le depart !
Comment avez vous circulé entre tous vos points de chute ? Toujours bus ou bateau ?
Je m inquiete un peu de la duree des transports, et envisage de réduire nos ambitions afin que ces deux semaines ne se transforment pas en marathon..
Un conseil d itineraire sur 2 semaines (je sais c est court on fera mieux la prochaine fois) sachant que j arrive a HANOI et repart HCM et que l idée était de passer un peu de temps au laos et traverser rapidement le Cambodge (sauf halte Ratanakiri ?)
Merci de vos avis
Oui, les transports sont très longs dans ces pays et 15 jours cela fait très court. Si l'arrivée est Hanoï et le retour Saïgon, je crois qu'il faut rester au Vietnam entre la Baie d'Halong, la région de Ninh Binh, Hué et Hoï An, puis Dalat, Saïgon et le delta du Mékong, il y a déjà beaucoup à faire et même 15 jours c'est un peu court pour tout cela.
Regardez sur notre blog le temps que l'on a mis pour chaque étape.
Difficile comme cela de faire le bon choix, mais faire toute la péninsule indochinoise en 15 jours en passant par le Laos et le Cambodge, ce sera un vrai marathon.
Bon voyage.
Je confirme que c'est toujours d'actualite, je viens de passer la frontiere aujourd'hui.
Depart de DBP a 5H30, arrivee a Muang Khua vers 13H30.
J ai donc meme pu prendre le dernier bus en partance pour Udomxai (15h30)
Par contre la station de bus est a 2-3 kms de Muang Khua mais un songthaew pres de la riviere vous y emmene pour 5000 Kips.
DBP > Muang Khua = 100 000 dong Muang Khua > Udomxai = 35 000 kips
DBP > Muang Khua = 100 000 dong Muang Khua > Udomxai = 35 000 kips
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Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel





