Peut-on voyager librement en Egypte par la route
by Evadtebo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Nous voudrions nous rendre en Egypte ( famille de 4 personnes )
Nous arrivons par l'aéroport de Hurghada avec visa à l'arrivèe prix de 20/25$.
Projet de voyage du 22 décembre 2014 au 2 janvier 2015 :
Hurghada / Marsa Alam / Assouan / Abou Simbel / Assouan / Kom Ombo / Louxor / Safaga / Hurghada.
Ce circuit est-il possible librement avec ces moyens de transports : bus , minibus , taxis (504 ou similaire ) , felouque sur le Nil , train.:Comment cela se passe t-il de nos jours ?
Dominique
Je suis allée en Egypte en janvier de cette année. Nous avons atterri à Hurghada et nous nous sommes rendus à Louxor en voiture avec chauffeur (réservé à l'avance sur internet).
Aucun soucis pour circuler, mis à part qu'il y a de nombreux barrages de l'armée sur la route.
Ils ont vérifié notre destination, et se sont assurés que notre parcours était bien respecté. C'est tout, même si au départ c'est un peu impressionnant :-)
Bon voyage, on a fait un super séjour en Egypte en janvier. On avait les sites et les hôtels à nous tout seuls, le pied !
Bonjour ,
Bien malin qui pourrait vous dire aujourd'hui ce qui en sera en décembre 2014 !
Il y aura eu des élections et ... de l'eau aura passé sous les ponts .
Pour le moment ( fin mars ), tous ces moyens de transport sont praticables .
Juste ceci : en 10 jours, votre itinéraire ne tient pas la route, sauf si vous envisagez de le consacrer uniquement aux transports : une sorte de marathon record . Pour faire cela dans de bonnes conditions , je pense qu'il vous faudrait ( au moins ) 17-18 jours .
Mon avis : d'ici là, observez la situation et tenez-vous régulièrement au courant ; il y aura de bons moments et vraisemblablement de moins bons ; il est trop tôt pour faire des plans précis . Tous les récits de voyage qui se sont bien déroulés ( j'en suis au 11ème ) ne sont en rien des prévisions fiables pour dans 9 mois ...
Une rem . encore : le visa est en fait très exactement de 15 $ ...ou son équivalent en € .
Bonne journée !
Pour le moment ( fin mars ), tous ces moyens de transport sont praticables .
Juste ceci : en 10 jours, votre itinéraire ne tient pas la route, sauf si vous envisagez de le consacrer uniquement aux transports : une sorte de marathon record . Pour faire cela dans de bonnes conditions , je pense qu'il vous faudrait ( au moins ) 17-18 jours .
Mon avis : d'ici là, observez la situation et tenez-vous régulièrement au courant ; il y aura de bons moments et vraisemblablement de moins bons ; il est trop tôt pour faire des plans précis . Tous les récits de voyage qui se sont bien déroulés ( j'en suis au 11ème ) ne sont en rien des prévisions fiables pour dans 9 mois ...
Une rem . encore : le visa est en fait très exactement de 15 $ ...ou son équivalent en € .
Bonne journée !
Brigitte
Bonjour Brigitte,
Nous connaissons déja bien l'Egypte ( août 2009 ) 3 semaines formidables
: Le Caire :"bus" , le desert blanc :"3 jours de 4/4 , les oasis ":pickup ,504", Louxor :"train",
Assouan :"felouque", KomOmbo :"minicar", Louxor :"berline" , Safaga :"bus", Le Caire
Les enfants avait à l'èpoque 10 et 8 ans .
Mais je ne connais pas Abou Simbel. c'est un de nos butes de voyage avec un coin de la mer rouge mais Marsa Alam ce sera pas pour nous ( trop chic ). Nous allons revoir donc Assouan et Louxor rapidement.
les moyens de transport fonctionner bien à cet époque .
Voilà pourquoi ma question.
Dominique
Ma 4ème visite en Egypte était le mois dernier. Le prix de visa est 15 USD jusqu'à la fin d'avril, après le prix sera 25 USD comme mon agence de voyages m'a informé.
La distance entre Hurghada et Marsa Alam est 3h30, entre Marsa Alam et Assouan est 4h30, Assouan et Abou Simbel est 4h00 (Il y a deux convois entre ces deux dernières), et entre Louxor - Hurghada est 4h00.
Merci pour ces renseignements
J'ai du temps pour organiser tranquille ce voyage.
Le principal est fait car j'ai mes 4 billets d'avion Paris /Istambul / Hurghada aller/retour.
Dominique
Bonjour
Si vous souhaitez, je pourrai vous envoyer les coordonnées d'une femme travaillant dans une agence des voyages en Egypte, elle est professionnelle, et peut vous aider à l'organisation de votre séjour, même si vous ne réservez avec son agence. L'équipe de cette agence est vraiment serviable.
Cécile
Cécile
Ma 4ème visite en Egypte était le mois dernier. Le prix de visa est 15 USD jusqu'à la fin d'avril, après le prix sera 25 USD comme mon agence de voyages m'a informé.
La distance entre Hurghada et Marsa Alam est 3h30, entre Marsa Alam et Assouan est 4h30, Assouan et Abou Simbel est 4h00 (Il y a deux convois entre ces deux dernières), et entre Louxor - Hurghada est 4h00.
aux dernieres nouvelles, et cela etant en place depuis des années, je ne vois pas pour le moment de raison que ceci s'assouplisse ....
la route marsa alam / assouan est fermée aux étrangers ! il vous faudra faire "le tour" en passant par safaga et louxor pour reprendre la route du nil vers le sud.
la route louxor assouan est ouverte aux étrangers mais seulemetn de jour ; route interdite apres coucher soleil ( et de toute facon super dangereuse de nuit en raison de la conduite sans phare des locaux !)
route assouan abou simble limitée à 2 convoi militaires par jour
aux dernieres nouvelles, et cela etant en place depuis des années, je ne vois pas pour le moment de raison que ceci s'assouplisse ....
la route marsa alam / assouan est fermée aux étrangers ! il vous faudra faire "le tour" en passant par safaga et louxor pour reprendre la route du nil vers le sud.
la route louxor assouan est ouverte aux étrangers mais seulemetn de jour ; route interdite apres coucher soleil ( et de toute facon super dangereuse de nuit en raison de la conduite sans phare des locaux !)
route assouan abou simble limitée à 2 convoi militaires par jour
Katty
Bonjour Cécile , Katy
Je veux bien le nom de l'agence , mais je ne recherche qu'une voiture avec chauffeur si prix correct pour une partie du circuit ?.
Merci pour les renseignements actuel pour organiser mon circuit. peut-être que la route "Marsa Alam /Assouan " sera ouverte pour Noêl.
Dominique
Bonjour ,
Je me tue à vous dire que c'est trop tôt pour faire des plans sur la comète !
Les élections ( si pas reportées une nouvelles fois ) seront fin mai ou début juin : donnez - vous le temps d'y penser, au moins jusque là ; ce n'est pas Katty qui me contredira !
Relx , vous avez le temps !
Et boone journée .
Les élections ( si pas reportées une nouvelles fois ) seront fin mai ou début juin : donnez - vous le temps d'y penser, au moins jusque là ; ce n'est pas Katty qui me contredira !
Relx , vous avez le temps !
Et boone journée .
Brigitte
Bonjour Katy
Merci pour les renseignements actuel pour organiser mon circuit. peut-être que la route "Marsa Alam /Assouan " sera ouverte pour Noêl.
compte tenu que cela n'a pas bougé en 20 ans que j'ai travaillé dans le tourisme en Egypte ... et compte tenu des priorités sécurités actuelles bien autres de l'armée ...
je ne vois pas pourquoi ils se prendraient la tete sur ce petit bout de route pour en changer les reglements en qq mois pour laisser passer qq personnes qu'ils ne pourraient plus controler ; et qui en plus peuvent passer par ailleurs !! ...
alors que cela n'a pas été fait quand pourtant tout allait bien et que les autres convois étaient suprimés sur d'autres troncons !
du moment où il y a un autre accès possible par une autre route ( meme si cela est un détour pour vous, mais qui n'implique pas la masse de tourisme qui bouge entre hurgada et louxor ) , ils ne vont pas je pense se prendre la tete sur cet axe quasi toujorus vide !
l'armée egyptienne qui a la main mise sur ces décisions sécuritaires ne va pas aussi vite que vos envies !! ne comptez pas les faire changer aussi vite !! il nous aura falu des années en tant que TO et le lobbiying du ministre du tourisme pour arriver à ce qu'ils suppriment les convois ..et encore meme pas tous !!
compte tenu que cela n'a pas bougé en 20 ans que j'ai travaillé dans le tourisme en Egypte ... et compte tenu des priorités sécurités actuelles bien autres de l'armée ...
je ne vois pas pourquoi ils se prendraient la tete sur ce petit bout de route pour en changer les reglements en qq mois pour laisser passer qq personnes qu'ils ne pourraient plus controler ; et qui en plus peuvent passer par ailleurs !! ...
alors que cela n'a pas été fait quand pourtant tout allait bien et que les autres convois étaient suprimés sur d'autres troncons !
du moment où il y a un autre accès possible par une autre route ( meme si cela est un détour pour vous, mais qui n'implique pas la masse de tourisme qui bouge entre hurgada et louxor ) , ils ne vont pas je pense se prendre la tete sur cet axe quasi toujorus vide !
l'armée egyptienne qui a la main mise sur ces décisions sécuritaires ne va pas aussi vite que vos envies !! ne comptez pas les faire changer aussi vite !! il nous aura falu des années en tant que TO et le lobbiying du ministre du tourisme pour arriver à ce qu'ils suppriment les convois ..et encore meme pas tous !!
Katty
Bonjour Cecb1980,
Pourriez-vous arrêter de faire croire aux internautes que vous êtes une "simple voyageuse" résidant en France, alors qu'en fait vous travaillez pour une agence basée en Egypte dont vous n'arrêtez pas de vanter les mérites.
D'autre part, expliquez nous comment vous pouvez affirmer dans votre message du 30 mars 2014 à 15:44 de cette discussion : "Ma 4ème visite en Egypte était le mois dernier"... alors que celui-ci est posté justement depuis l'Egypte, tout comme d'ailleurs la totalité de vos autres posts depuis que vous vous êtes inscrite sous différents pseudos ?
Bref, il serait préférable que vous arrêtiez ce genre de pratique peu glorieuse, sous peine que nous fermions aussi définitivement votre (dernier) compte...
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PS : nous avons bien entendu supprimé toutes les références à votre agence dans tous vos "pseudos messages d'information".
Pourriez-vous arrêter de faire croire aux internautes que vous êtes une "simple voyageuse" résidant en France, alors qu'en fait vous travaillez pour une agence basée en Egypte dont vous n'arrêtez pas de vanter les mérites.
D'autre part, expliquez nous comment vous pouvez affirmer dans votre message du 30 mars 2014 à 15:44 de cette discussion : "Ma 4ème visite en Egypte était le mois dernier"... alors que celui-ci est posté justement depuis l'Egypte, tout comme d'ailleurs la totalité de vos autres posts depuis que vous vous êtes inscrite sous différents pseudos ?
Bref, il serait préférable que vous arrêtiez ce genre de pratique peu glorieuse, sous peine que nous fermions aussi définitivement votre (dernier) compte...
L'équipe VoyageForum
PS : nous avons bien entendu supprimé toutes les références à votre agence dans tous vos "pseudos messages d'information".
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J'ai passé 15 jours en Egypte en Décembre dernier. Aucun pb pour voyager en taxi collectif, à part quelques contrôles par l'armée.La route Marsa Alam Edfou était ouverte normalement. Par contre pour me rendre à Dakhla et Farafra, j'ai dû passer par Louxor et Assiout.Sinon Assouan, Abou Simbel , aucun pb; et retour Louxor - Hurghada en 4 heures par un taxi collectif direct(Toyota 14 places) pour moins de 4 euros.
J'ai passé 15 jours en Egypte en Décembre dernier. Aucun pb pour voyager en taxi collectif, à part quelques contrôles par l'armée.La route Marsa Alam Edfou était ouverte normalement. Par contre pour me rendre à Dakhla et Farafra, j'ai dû passer par Louxor et Assiout.Sinon Assouan, Abou Simbel , aucun pb; et retour Louxor - Hurghada en 4 heures par un taxi collectif direct(Toyota 14 places) pour moins de 4 euros.
bonjour,
pour temporiser la réponse de Leonard,
je signalerais tout de meme que les taxis collectifs et bus publics peuvent bien sur passer librement sur cette route de MArsa alam à Edfou ... mais que la plupart du temps , pour ne pas se faire arreter par les controles routiers et se voir interdits de passage, ils limitent la vente des places aux étrangers dans le transport !!
car si trop de touristes, ou véhicule chartérisé par des étrangers cela devient un transport touristique assujeti aux reglementations locales de voies ouvertes ou non aux étrangers !! ... et cette route en fait partie de cette réglementation très bizarre !
donc, autant il n'y a pas eu de problème pour Leonard de passer "seul" dans ce troncon dans le bus ou le taxi colelctif qui est donc public ... autant il n'est pas certain que le transporteur ou le vendeur de billet acceptent de prendre 4 personnes étrangères ensemble dans son véhicule pour ne pas risquer de se faire arreter !
idem pour les bus reliant assouan à abou simble, possédant également des "quotas" d'étranger par bus et par passage .. quota tres "flexible" et variable à la tete du client, ... et meme selon les humeurs des policiers qui les controlent ...ou encore selon les tensions du moment sur la zone !
bonjour,
pour temporiser la réponse de Leonard,
je signalerais tout de meme que les taxis collectifs et bus publics peuvent bien sur passer librement sur cette route de MArsa alam à Edfou ... mais que la plupart du temps , pour ne pas se faire arreter par les controles routiers et se voir interdits de passage, ils limitent la vente des places aux étrangers dans le transport !!
car si trop de touristes, ou véhicule chartérisé par des étrangers cela devient un transport touristique assujeti aux reglementations locales de voies ouvertes ou non aux étrangers !! ... et cette route en fait partie de cette réglementation très bizarre !
donc, autant il n'y a pas eu de problème pour Leonard de passer "seul" dans ce troncon dans le bus ou le taxi colelctif qui est donc public ... autant il n'est pas certain que le transporteur ou le vendeur de billet acceptent de prendre 4 personnes étrangères ensemble dans son véhicule pour ne pas risquer de se faire arreter !
idem pour les bus reliant assouan à abou simble, possédant également des "quotas" d'étranger par bus et par passage .. quota tres "flexible" et variable à la tete du client, ... et meme selon les humeurs des policiers qui les controlent ...ou encore selon les tensions du moment sur la zone !
Katty
Effectivement, tu as raison. J'étais seul , c'est beaucoup plus facile de passer inaperçu.Les jeunes militaires à un point de contrôle m'ont même offert le thé le temps de vérifier mon passeport...J'y retourne en Septembre.
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




