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Doit-on donner des pourboires aux chauffeurs, guides, hôtels, bars etc... et des bonbons aux enfants.
Pourboires en Thaïlande
by Cl30
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Moi ce que je faisais c'est lorsque l'on me rendait la monnaie je prennait les billets et laissait les pièces...
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
c'est un post qui a été développer en long et en large, ,
en général on donne dans les restaurant digne de ce nom, , jamais dans la rue, ni dans les très bons buibui, , ni chez le coiffeur, , et pas de bonbons aux enfants, , ce n'est pas un pays sous développer, , ou la première chose que on apprend est tout se mérite, alors donner un bonbon, est un bon geste pour le dentiste, mais mauvais pour l'éducation, ,
être sympa est ce que ils demandent, , maintenant si la générosité vous pousse, ,
fait comme les thais, , acheter un sac de riz et le donner a un orphelinat, il sera bien distribuer, , j'ai un copain que demande la note d'electricitee, et la paye, , bon parfois il rale un peut, , mais le moins prochain la note est raisonnable, ,
personnellement je suis très riz, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Franchement oui dans les mêmes circonstances qu'en France, quand le service qui vous a été rendu le mérite. Suivant vos moyens, entre 5 et 10 % . Cela représente un complément de revenus non négligeable et aussi c'est peut être le plus important, une reconnaissance du travail. N'oubliez jamais que même dans les grands hotels, une serveuse de base ou un barman gagne 4 euros (200 bahts par jour). Alors 1 euro de pourboire (50 bahts) quand on mange à deux, ce n'est pas le bout du monde et cela peut vite faire une grosse différence pour eux, et je l'espère ne pas mettre votre budget vacances en danger...
Si en revanche le travail ne le justifie pas, aucune obligation... Ce n'est pas les Etats Unis😄
Si en revanche le travail ne le justifie pas, aucune obligation... Ce n'est pas les Etats Unis😄
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
bon je donne 10 ou 20 bt au pompiste qui c'est donner du mal a changer la chambre a air, ça le surprend, , mais il accepte, , chaque pays a ses habitudes ce n'est pas a nous de les changer, c'est pour cela que ce post est bien, ,
un truc simple regardes ce que font les autochtones, , et faire de même, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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OK Thuan,
Personnellement, en France, il est très rare que je donne un pourboire car les services gratuits, je n'en reçois pas. Tout ce que je commande, je vais payer à la caisse. J'estime que ce sont aux employeurs de payer leurs salariés dignement. C'est un avis bien sûr qui n'engage que moi.
Personnellement, en France, il est très rare que je donne un pourboire car les services gratuits, je n'en reçois pas. Tout ce que je commande, je vais payer à la caisse. J'estime que ce sont aux employeurs de payer leurs salariés dignement. C'est un avis bien sûr qui n'engage que moi.
OK Thuan,
Personnellement, en France, il est très rare que je donne un pourboire car les services gratuits, je n'en reçois pas. Tout ce que je commande, je vais payer à la caisse. J'estime que ce sont aux employeurs de payer leurs salariés dignement. C'est un avis bien sûr qui n'engage que moi.
oui mais en thailande c'est un peut perverse, , dans les hôtels les employés sont sous payer, , car ils savent que ils vont avoir des pourboires, , c'est a un telle point que pour avoir une bonne place dans un hôtel, , et bien on paye une belle somme au tôlier, , mais bon dans la police c'est de même, , je reconnais que c'est un pays pas évident a savoir dans ce domaine, c'est pour cela que ce post est très bien,
Personnellement, en France, il est très rare que je donne un pourboire car les services gratuits, je n'en reçois pas. Tout ce que je commande, je vais payer à la caisse. J'estime que ce sont aux employeurs de payer leurs salariés dignement. C'est un avis bien sûr qui n'engage que moi.
oui mais en thailande c'est un peut perverse, , dans les hôtels les employés sont sous payer, , car ils savent que ils vont avoir des pourboires, , c'est a un telle point que pour avoir une bonne place dans un hôtel, , et bien on paye une belle somme au tôlier, , mais bon dans la police c'est de même, , je reconnais que c'est un pays pas évident a savoir dans ce domaine, c'est pour cela que ce post est très bien,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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pour les taxis je laisse les pieces à peu prés entre 10 ET 15 BATHS mais pas de règle la matiere
j'ai pris la mauvaise habitude aux dires de nombreux voyageurs de donner trop ....
j'ai tellement rencontré des gens gentils et efficaces que je ne compte plus d'ailleurs mon dernier voyage laos thailande c'est mon budget pourboire qui a explosé
on the road again.......
Pour payer ses employés dignement, il faut pouvoir l'inclure dans le prix de vente. De même que les retraites, cotisations sociales, assurances maladies, toutes choses inconnues ou presque en Thailande dans les petites entreprises (et quelques grosses...) Si beaucoup de choses, notamment les industries de service sont trés peu chères en Thailande, ce ui attire les touristes, c'est que le travail est trés peu payé. Que les pourboires versés au personnel permettent en toute petite partie de corriger ce triste état des choses ne me semble pas scandaleux.
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Tu sais les taxis meters que tu leurs donnes ou pas ca change rien aux tarifs et je fais comme mon pote expat sur bangkok
on the road again.......
a mon avis, je pense que les pourboires sont vraiment important
je donne toujours, il faut savoir donner !
Dans les restos je donne toujours un petit pourboire, meme si c'est un petit shop dans la rue,
si c'est une jeune étudiante je lui donne 10 baths et la elle est super contente.
En fait mon ami thai boxxeur, m'a expliqué qu'ici le pourboire signifie que la personne a bien travaillé, bien rendu service, si on lui donne rien, il va beaucoup penser a "qu'es ce que j'ai fait de mal"
Pour les taxi si c'est 51 baths je donne 60baths, il dise pas toujours merci mais bon, et si vraiment ce sont des cons je donne rien du tout et je raisonne a la thai "one bath is one bath". Par exemple l'autre jour j'allai en issan a udon thani, j'ai pris un taxi dans ma résidence, je lui di je vais a moh chit pour le bus, on etait hyper chargé, ma copine aussi ... le gros taxi n'a meme pas bouger c fesse pour nous aider et meme pas ouvert le coffre, donc je lui ai di de stoppé et je lui ai donné ces 53 baths pile poil. Ensuite je vais boire un coup a la station, ma copine attend avec les sacs et je revien, je dis ou son tout nos sac, déjà dans le taxi il a tout mis dans le taxi... le mec a bosser ca lui ai venu naturellement, résultat il a gagné 40 baths de tip ( c rien mais bon...)
Dans les hotels je donne toujours, comme ca je suis traité au petit soin, et c'est vrai que comme nous l'ont dis les amis, pour nous 20 baths c'est rien, et pour eux ca leur paye une papaya pok pok ...
Je le sais bien ma copine travaillait en réception d'hotel payé 5.000 baths pour 12 heure de boulot par jour et sans week end. (comme en france en 1950). Une fois le pourboire elle etait heureuse et partait s'acheter plein a manger, pour elle et ses parents ! Et comme tu le dis henridusud pas de retraite (sauf gouvernement), pas de sécu, pas de week end, journée de 12 heures.
Encore un exemple, meme si je dévis, le pere de ma copine qui est sécurité man, il gagne 5000 baths par mois, et un coup il a travaillé 35 heures d'un coup(probleme de sous), la franchement je sais pas comment il a fait, en france dans notre pays d'assisté impossible de bouger ses grosse fesse du sofa pour faire ca un ...
moral donner un peu de votre argent, 20 baths pour nous c'est quoi ? et pour eux ? (un repas, une boisson, 10%du salaire par jour)
En fait mon ami thai boxxeur, m'a expliqué qu'ici le pourboire signifie que la personne a bien travaillé, bien rendu service, si on lui donne rien, il va beaucoup penser a "qu'es ce que j'ai fait de mal"
Pour les taxi si c'est 51 baths je donne 60baths, il dise pas toujours merci mais bon, et si vraiment ce sont des cons je donne rien du tout et je raisonne a la thai "one bath is one bath". Par exemple l'autre jour j'allai en issan a udon thani, j'ai pris un taxi dans ma résidence, je lui di je vais a moh chit pour le bus, on etait hyper chargé, ma copine aussi ... le gros taxi n'a meme pas bouger c fesse pour nous aider et meme pas ouvert le coffre, donc je lui ai di de stoppé et je lui ai donné ces 53 baths pile poil. Ensuite je vais boire un coup a la station, ma copine attend avec les sacs et je revien, je dis ou son tout nos sac, déjà dans le taxi il a tout mis dans le taxi... le mec a bosser ca lui ai venu naturellement, résultat il a gagné 40 baths de tip ( c rien mais bon...)
Dans les hotels je donne toujours, comme ca je suis traité au petit soin, et c'est vrai que comme nous l'ont dis les amis, pour nous 20 baths c'est rien, et pour eux ca leur paye une papaya pok pok ...
Je le sais bien ma copine travaillait en réception d'hotel payé 5.000 baths pour 12 heure de boulot par jour et sans week end. (comme en france en 1950). Une fois le pourboire elle etait heureuse et partait s'acheter plein a manger, pour elle et ses parents ! Et comme tu le dis henridusud pas de retraite (sauf gouvernement), pas de sécu, pas de week end, journée de 12 heures.
Encore un exemple, meme si je dévis, le pere de ma copine qui est sécurité man, il gagne 5000 baths par mois, et un coup il a travaillé 35 heures d'un coup(probleme de sous), la franchement je sais pas comment il a fait, en france dans notre pays d'assisté impossible de bouger ses grosse fesse du sofa pour faire ca un ...
moral donner un peu de votre argent, 20 baths pour nous c'est quoi ? et pour eux ? (un repas, une boisson, 10%du salaire par jour)
"Je vais lui faire une offre qu'il ne refusera pas"
Je ne crie pas au scandale et comme j'ai dit, avant, nous nous plierons aux us et coutumes du pays qui nous reçoit. C'est la moindre des choses ou bien on reste chez nous.
Par contre, il y a 2 ou 3 semaines sur Thalassa, nous avons vu une émission sur la culture du panga au VietNam. C'est vrai, un couple vivait sur leur culture très simplement en employant des personnes. A contrario, dessus, un gros boss du panga vivait dans l'abondance à outrace. C'est ces maillons de l'échelle qui me choque. Cela se passe bien sur en France mais c'est peut être moins au sus et vue du peuple.
bonjour,
concernant les pourboires en thailande,
chacun donne en fonction du servive rendu
par exemple moi je donne volontiers 100 baht pour un massage thai traditionnel car la tache est assez penible pour les personnes qui vous massent, un massage des pieds ou un massage a l'huile est moins fatiguante et pourtant le prix varie peu. sinon j'essaye aussi de donner un ptit pourboire de 50 baht pour les gens qui portent les valises jusqu'a la chambre d'hotel. concernant les taxis, je ne laisse pas de pourboire sauf si le chauffeur est agréable.
cordialement
nam
il y avait ce mme genre de pratique en france, il n'y a pas si longtemps...du temps ou il y avait des "ouvreuses" au cinéma, et bien les places "s'achetaient" très cher, car les "bons" pourboires faisaient qu"une place d'ouvreuse dans les cinés des champs elysées par exemple (bien sur pas dans un petit ciné de banlieue) etait un vrai bon salaire....
je laisse, comme en france, en fonction du service rendu et en fonction de l'amabilité des gens. par contre, pour un chauffeur que j'ai pris plusieurs jours, a contrario, osi j'ai passé des jours agréables avec lui et que j'ai tissé des liens plus proches, j'ai beaucoup de mal a laisser un pourboire, cela me gene. c'est ce qui s'est passé l'an dernier au cambodge avec mon driver de siem rep(j'y pense car on m a posé la question cette semaine) j'avais l'impression d'etre avec un ami, a la fin, je l'ai donc payé le prix convenu mais j'ai ete "incapable" de lui donner un pourboire. par contre, je lui ai fait beaucoup de pub sur VF et il a eu beaucoup de clients grace amoi. c'est probablement un peu stupide...
de toute facon tu le verras au feeling le pourboire
les cyclo au vietnam, je donne souvent de bons pourboires selon la distance et la durete du trajet
il m'est deja arrive de donner de grosses sommes par rapport a la course car le monsieur s'est tape une cote ou un long trajet
certains metiers sont penibles et rapportent peu
parfois qq centimes ou qq euros pour nos pouvoirs d'achat ameliorent un quotidien, je ne suis pas regardant sur ce genre de details si je vois que la personne le merite et en a besoin
les cyclo au vietnam, je donne souvent de bons pourboires selon la distance et la durete du trajet
il m'est deja arrive de donner de grosses sommes par rapport a la course car le monsieur s'est tape une cote ou un long trajet
certains metiers sont penibles et rapportent peu
parfois qq centimes ou qq euros pour nos pouvoirs d'achat ameliorent un quotidien, je ne suis pas regardant sur ce genre de details si je vois que la personne le merite et en a besoin
Je ne dirais pas que le pourboire est inconnu en Thailande, mais les thais ne le pratiquent pas; excepté dans les restaurants huppés de la capitale ou dans les bars.
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Thibaut
pour les taxis je laisse les pieces à peu prés entre 10 ET 15 BATHS mais pas de règle la matiere
j'ai pris la mauvaise habitude aux dires de nombreux voyageurs de donner trop ....
j'ai tellement rencontré des gens gentils et efficaces que je ne compte plus d'ailleurs mon dernier voyage laos thailande c'est mon budget pourboire qui a explosé
On a pris le taxi de chinatown à MBk, le compteur indique 57bath à la fin de la course, on lui file 60bath on attend pour avoir la monnaie, et il nous dit: "bye bye" 🤪 c'est du foutage de gueule, on a pas insisté pour si peu, mais je trouve ça super malpoli...
On a pris le taxi de chinatown à MBk, le compteur indique 57bath à la fin de la course, on lui file 60bath on attend pour avoir la monnaie, et il nous dit: "bye bye" 🤪 c'est du foutage de gueule, on a pas insisté pour si peu, mais je trouve ça super malpoli...
Je ne connais que les taxis qui fassent cela et crois moi qu'avec des "farengs", en fait c'est de la petite excoquerie et comme tu dis c'est très impoli. La faute aux mauvaises habitudes !
à impoli, impoli et demi tu réclames ta monnaie et ne donne pas de pourboire dans ses cas là
Il y a aussi le coup du, "je n'ai pas la monnaie"
à impoli, impoli et demi tu réclames ta monnaie et ne donne pas de pourboire dans ses cas là
Il y a aussi le coup du, "je n'ai pas la monnaie"
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
C'est de coutume pour les taxis d'arrondir la course (pas seulement pours les farangs mais aussi pour les thais). Et pas seulement vers le haut....
Par exemple, si le montant de la course est de 133 Bahts et que tu donnes 150, ils peuvent très bien te rendre 15 ou 20 bahts....
Ok, ça surprend mais comme la monnaie, ça fait des trous dans les poches alors d'un côté, il t'a rendu service.😉. Sérieusement, tu es quand même tombé sur un chauffeur de taxi qui a accepté d'utiliser le taximètre, ce qui est déjà un petit exploit. 😎
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Thibaut
fubu7 a écrit :
"On a pris le taxi de chinatown à MBk, le compteur indique 57bath à la fin de la course, on lui file 60bath on attend pour avoir la monnaie, et il nous dit: "bye bye" 🤪 c'est du foutage de gueule, on a pas insisté pour si peu, mais je trouve ça super malpoli... "
Du foutage de gueule pour 3 baht! ( 13 centimes d'€) ; faut quand même être gonflé et radin pour attendre 3 baht de monnaie! Je ne sais pas de qui il faut se foutre? mais j'ai mon idée. 🙁
Afin que baht se prononce correctement, évitez de l'écrire "bath" parce que "th" ne se prononce pas comme "ht". Le mieux serait évidemment de l'écrire en thai. Un spécialiste?
En plus tu n'as pas insisté; et tant mieux, ça aurait été con que tu prennes une balle en pleine poire ou qu'on te fasse un joli sourire kabyle pour si peu. On ne le répétera jamais assez, ne jamais faire perdre la face à un thai; ils sont tous enfouraillés un max.
"On a pris le taxi de chinatown à MBk, le compteur indique 57bath à la fin de la course, on lui file 60bath on attend pour avoir la monnaie, et il nous dit: "bye bye" 🤪 c'est du foutage de gueule, on a pas insisté pour si peu, mais je trouve ça super malpoli... "
Du foutage de gueule pour 3 baht! ( 13 centimes d'€) ; faut quand même être gonflé et radin pour attendre 3 baht de monnaie! Je ne sais pas de qui il faut se foutre? mais j'ai mon idée. 🙁
Afin que baht se prononce correctement, évitez de l'écrire "bath" parce que "th" ne se prononce pas comme "ht". Le mieux serait évidemment de l'écrire en thai. Un spécialiste?
En plus tu n'as pas insisté; et tant mieux, ça aurait été con que tu prennes une balle en pleine poire ou qu'on te fasse un joli sourire kabyle pour si peu. On ne le répétera jamais assez, ne jamais faire perdre la face à un thai; ils sont tous enfouraillés un max.
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
Je ne connais que les taxis qui fassent cela et crois moi qu'avec des "farengs", en fait c'est de la petite excoquerie et comme tu dis c'est très impoli. La faute aux mauvaises habitudes !
à impoli, impoli et demi tu réclames ta monnaie et ne donne pas de pourboire dans ses cas là
Il y a aussi le coup du, "je n'ai pas la monnaie"
Désolé d'être impoli 🤪 ce n'est pas dans ma culture de filer des pourboires, surtout pour une course de 6km et 10min de bouchons, les compteurs sont là pour donner un prix point, je suis quasi sur néanmoins que s'il m'avait rendu la monnaie, je lui aurrai laisser, mais par principe on a moyennement apprécié son geste...😕
à impoli, impoli et demi tu réclames ta monnaie et ne donne pas de pourboire dans ses cas là
Il y a aussi le coup du, "je n'ai pas la monnaie"
Désolé d'être impoli 🤪 ce n'est pas dans ma culture de filer des pourboires, surtout pour une course de 6km et 10min de bouchons, les compteurs sont là pour donner un prix point, je suis quasi sur néanmoins que s'il m'avait rendu la monnaie, je lui aurrai laisser, mais par principe on a moyennement apprécié son geste...😕
Bah tu vois je sais l'écrire en thai mais pas en français 😎
Ce n'est pas une question de radinerie, mais de principe apprend à lire!!!
bonjour, je te remercie par solidarité professionnelle(il m'arrive de donner parfois, presque autant que le prix du massage) car je connais le type d'effort.
à mon arrivée à l'hôtel à BKK (toujours le même) je donne 1usd pour la valise et la présentation de la chambre(je râlle contre la stupidité de l'Europe pas fichue de faire des billets de 1€....)
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
salut🙂
pour les restos j ai pris l habitude de laisser les pieces
pour les taxis vu qu ils arrondissent souvent au dessus je laisse rarement plus que ce qu ils gardent
hier je me trouvais a phuket et j ai creve sur la route on etait bien emmerde pas de pompiste aux alentours ..on a demamde aide a un tenancier de bui bui qui a telephone a un depanneur et nous a propose de l attendre dans son echoppe..du coup on a mange chez lui et on lui a laisse 100b de tip
ce matin la fille d une agence de voyage a qui nous avons achete un tour nous a invite avant le depart a prendre le breakfast dans son agence en attendant le mini bus ..elle est venue nous trouver directeemt dans notre guest house pour nous le proposer ... a elle nous avons achete une boite de gateau typique et sommes alle lui en proposer a notre retour en la remerciant de son geste..
🙂
pour les restos j ai pris l habitude de laisser les pieces
pour les taxis vu qu ils arrondissent souvent au dessus je laisse rarement plus que ce qu ils gardent
hier je me trouvais a phuket et j ai creve sur la route on etait bien emmerde pas de pompiste aux alentours ..on a demamde aide a un tenancier de bui bui qui a telephone a un depanneur et nous a propose de l attendre dans son echoppe..du coup on a mange chez lui et on lui a laisse 100b de tip
ce matin la fille d une agence de voyage a qui nous avons achete un tour nous a invite avant le depart a prendre le breakfast dans son agence en attendant le mini bus ..elle est venue nous trouver directeemt dans notre guest house pour nous le proposer ... a elle nous avons achete une boite de gateau typique et sommes alle lui en proposer a notre retour en la remerciant de son geste..
🙂
"La seule chose vouée à l'échec est celle que l'on ne tente pas."
Super ton attitude !
Les deux personnes ont du etre vraiment contente.
Sinon tu vois le salaire c'est vraiment trés bas ici, un personne qui travaille a bangkok dans le batiment gagne environ 4.500-5.000 baths, les sécurity man 5.000-7.000 baths, et les secrétaire environ 10.000-15.000. Apres ca dépend des diplomes, si tu peux parler anglais et tout, mais c'est vraiment bas
Personnelement, je préferai etre pauvre en france qu'en thailande, car en france tu as toujours de l'aide, on te laisse pas mourir dans la rue, ici si tu bosse pas tu creve, et on s'en fou de toi. Encore hier j'etait a khao san, j'ai ete outré par ses fumier de vendeur de jus d'orange, un jeune mendiant un peu déséquilibré etait par terre et se roulait de douleur, recouvert d'eau sale, il avait l'air de souffrir, et les gens apparemment inquiet demandé ce qu'il se passait, le vendeur de jus d'orange a di "May pe lay" ca veut dire no problem style rien a foutre de lui ...
Sinon tu vois le salaire c'est vraiment trés bas ici, un personne qui travaille a bangkok dans le batiment gagne environ 4.500-5.000 baths, les sécurity man 5.000-7.000 baths, et les secrétaire environ 10.000-15.000. Apres ca dépend des diplomes, si tu peux parler anglais et tout, mais c'est vraiment bas
Personnelement, je préferai etre pauvre en france qu'en thailande, car en france tu as toujours de l'aide, on te laisse pas mourir dans la rue, ici si tu bosse pas tu creve, et on s'en fou de toi. Encore hier j'etait a khao san, j'ai ete outré par ses fumier de vendeur de jus d'orange, un jeune mendiant un peu déséquilibré etait par terre et se roulait de douleur, recouvert d'eau sale, il avait l'air de souffrir, et les gens apparemment inquiet demandé ce qu'il se passait, le vendeur de jus d'orange a di "May pe lay" ca veut dire no problem style rien a foutre de lui ...
"Je vais lui faire une offre qu'il ne refusera pas"
😄😄😄😄Te mettre une balle en pleine poire.....
Tu exagere la!!!!
Il va te les rendre tes 3 malheureux baht si tu les lui demande.....
😄
La ou le vent nous emporteras
Personnellement, je préferai etre pauvre en france qu'en thailande, car en france tu as toujours de l'aide,
a l'inverse il est préférable être riche en thailande que en France, ,
en thailande plus on est riche moins on paye d'impôts, , , , , 😉
les prix de lucas sont bons, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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si taxi meter tu peux demander la monaie mais en general pour ma part je laisse mais bien sur que tu peux la demander!!!
on the road again.......
😄😄😄😄Te mettre une balle en pleine poire.....
Tu exagere la!!!!
Il va te les rendre tes 3 malheureux baht si tu les lui demande.....
😄
C, est la piste aux etoiles 😮'''hallucinant😮!!!!!!!
C, est la piste aux etoiles 😮'''hallucinant😮!!!!!!!
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
si taxi meter tu peux demander la monaie mais en general pour ma part je laisse mais bien sur que tu peux la demander!!!
OK Moi, je vais vous dire ce que je pense, meme si je dois me faire des ennemis ...
Onvis dans un monde de RAT D, EGOUT...de petits esprits RADINS ....
SOUVENT J.AI HONTE D.ETRE UN FARANG RS QUE JE DEFENDS CEQUI RESTE DE NOTRE PAUVRE CULTURE LARGUEE.....MORTE///comme notre belle langue francaise ...
Les Thais sont des gens que l, on doit respecter au plus haut niveau car nous vivons dans leur pays............... leur generosite est grande .....
Vos pourboires faites en ce que vous voulez ...... Allez aux temples pour faire un don ....Les rats morts abstenez vous ...
OK Moi, je vais vous dire ce que je pense, meme si je dois me faire des ennemis ...
Onvis dans un monde de RAT D, EGOUT...de petits esprits RADINS ....
SOUVENT J.AI HONTE D.ETRE UN FARANG RS QUE JE DEFENDS CEQUI RESTE DE NOTRE PAUVRE CULTURE LARGUEE.....MORTE///comme notre belle langue francaise ...
Les Thais sont des gens que l, on doit respecter au plus haut niveau car nous vivons dans leur pays............... leur generosite est grande .....
Vos pourboires faites en ce que vous voulez ...... Allez aux temples pour faire un don ....Les rats morts abstenez vous ...
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
mais j'ai fait des dons dans les temples et les villages ou j'ai fait des trecks et quand aux pourboires je les donne naturellement sans me poser des questions
on the road again.......
a) c est déja fait
😏😏😏
b) faut pas gereraliser 😠😉
OK a) Moi, je vais vous dire ce que je pense, meme si je dois me faire des ennemis ...
b) On vis dans un monde de RAT D, EGOUT...de petits esprits RADINS ....
OK a) Moi, je vais vous dire ce que je pense, meme si je dois me faire des ennemis ...
b) On vis dans un monde de RAT D, EGOUT...de petits esprits RADINS ....
principe principe...
tu sais je prends souvent le taxi a paris
la semaine derniere, la course etait de 18.70
je lui file un billet de 20
le chauffeur m'a dit merci et puis c'est tout
sur le coup j'ai ete surpris parce que sur 10 taxis que je prends, 9 me rendent la monnaie
bon je suis tombe sur un goinfre
mais bon, a l'autre bout du monde, 3 bahts tu peux pas parler de principe
faut pas abuser non plus
et c'est pas question d'etre un etranger ou non
tu sais je prends souvent le taxi a paris
la semaine derniere, la course etait de 18.70
je lui file un billet de 20
le chauffeur m'a dit merci et puis c'est tout
sur le coup j'ai ete surpris parce que sur 10 taxis que je prends, 9 me rendent la monnaie
bon je suis tombe sur un goinfre
mais bon, a l'autre bout du monde, 3 bahts tu peux pas parler de principe
faut pas abuser non plus
et c'est pas question d'etre un etranger ou non
par exemple moi je donne volontiers 100 baht pour un massage thai traditionnel car la tache est assez penible pour les personnes qui vous massent,
100 bt est le prix a l'heure, , maintenant je comprend pourquoi tout les masseur veulent masser les farangs, , ils me racontait que masser un farang débarquant de l'avion c'est facile car ils n'y connaissent rien donc pas fatigant, , mais si en plus on reçois 100% de ce que on gagne, , c'est le jackpot, , je suis content d'aller la ou pas un farang va, , , , , ou le prix est de 100 bt de l'heure, et c 'est tout, , si on va par la .. les chauffeur de tuk tuks font un métier bien plus pénible, es que on leur donne 100% de leur course ?? le problème n'est pas d'être généreux, , le problème est de respecter le pays comme il vit, et non venir le déformer, , c'est pareille pour les bonbons et stylos distribuer regarder comment la population fait et les imiter simplement, ,
100 bt est le prix a l'heure, , maintenant je comprend pourquoi tout les masseur veulent masser les farangs, , ils me racontait que masser un farang débarquant de l'avion c'est facile car ils n'y connaissent rien donc pas fatigant, , mais si en plus on reçois 100% de ce que on gagne, , c'est le jackpot, , je suis content d'aller la ou pas un farang va, , , , , ou le prix est de 100 bt de l'heure, et c 'est tout, , si on va par la .. les chauffeur de tuk tuks font un métier bien plus pénible, es que on leur donne 100% de leur course ?? le problème n'est pas d'être généreux, , le problème est de respecter le pays comme il vit, et non venir le déformer, , c'est pareille pour les bonbons et stylos distribuer regarder comment la population fait et les imiter simplement, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Moi, c est pas mon habitude de laisser des pourboire, lol, j ai besoin de mon argent
Tout à fait exact;
le pourboire n'existe pas en Thailande;
c'est un truc qui a été importé dans ce pays par les farang;
A la rigueur une pièce de 10baht pour une note de resto de 800 baht; je l'ai vu pratiqué par une très riche sino-thai après un repas gastronomique... et encore je pense que c'était uniquement pour ne pas alourdir son porte monnaie inutilement et aussi pour impressionner le farang présent (moi, en l'occurence);
C'est très gentil de vouloir faire le philantrope en Asie du SE, en donnant un petit billet de 20 baht par ci par là; mais alors pourquoi ne faites vous pas de même dans votre propre pays; Je m'explique: 20 baht, c'est une heure de travail pour l'immense majorité des thai donc en France, si votre logique est la même, vous DEVEZ laisser une heure de travail en pourboire: actuellement, le smic horaire est à 8 €; donc tous les donneurs de pourboire sont invités à donner minimum 8 € de pourboire partout où ils passent en France...
En Thailande, quand on me rend quelques petites pièces de 1 baht, je fais comme mes amis thai, je les laisse en disant "tip"; mais pas question de laisser un billet de 20 baht ou plus. Et ce n'est pas de la radinerie d'écrire ça.
Par contre, quand un aveugle chantant guidé par sa femme (ou le contraire) passe à côté de moi, je sors volontier le billet de 20 baht, je le leur offre en ayant d'abord fait le "wai" ; beaucoup de thai même ceux qui ne gagnent que 5.000 baht par mois font de même.
Je ne dirais pas que le pourboire est inconnu en Thailande, mais les thais ne le pratiquent pas; excepté dans les restaurants huppés de la capitale ou dans les bars.
A la rigueur une pièce de 10baht pour une note de resto de 800 baht; je l'ai vu pratiqué par une très riche sino-thai après un repas gastronomique... et encore je pense que c'était uniquement pour ne pas alourdir son porte monnaie inutilement et aussi pour impressionner le farang présent (moi, en l'occurence);
C'est très gentil de vouloir faire le philantrope en Asie du SE, en donnant un petit billet de 20 baht par ci par là; mais alors pourquoi ne faites vous pas de même dans votre propre pays; Je m'explique: 20 baht, c'est une heure de travail pour l'immense majorité des thai donc en France, si votre logique est la même, vous DEVEZ laisser une heure de travail en pourboire: actuellement, le smic horaire est à 8 €; donc tous les donneurs de pourboire sont invités à donner minimum 8 € de pourboire partout où ils passent en France...
En Thailande, quand on me rend quelques petites pièces de 1 baht, je fais comme mes amis thai, je les laisse en disant "tip"; mais pas question de laisser un billet de 20 baht ou plus. Et ce n'est pas de la radinerie d'écrire ça.
Par contre, quand un aveugle chantant guidé par sa femme (ou le contraire) passe à côté de moi, je sors volontier le billet de 20 baht, je le leur offre en ayant d'abord fait le "wai" ; beaucoup de thai même ceux qui ne gagnent que 5.000 baht par mois font de même.
Je ne dirais pas que le pourboire est inconnu en Thailande, mais les thais ne le pratiquent pas; excepté dans les restaurants huppés de la capitale ou dans les bars.
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
Par contre, quand un aveugle chantant guidé par sa femme (ou le contraire) passe à côté de moi, je sors volontier le billet de 20 baht, je le leur offre en ayant d'abord fait le "wai" ; beaucoup de thai même ceux qui ne gagnent que 5.000 baht par mois font de même.
très juste, , eux n'ont aucune couverture sociale de plus étant issan en général ils sont méprisée, , ils ne vivent que par la pitié des autre, , également je donne 20 bt très souvent, , ce que dit hoangman est très important le<< wai, >>, car non seulement on leur viens en aide matériel, mais ils sont respecter comme des personnes a part entière, , ( loin de moi de faire une leçon sur le dons, , mais simplement souvent les étranger ne savent pas faire ce geste, , )
très juste, , eux n'ont aucune couverture sociale de plus étant issan en général ils sont méprisée, , ils ne vivent que par la pitié des autre, , également je donne 20 bt très souvent, , ce que dit hoangman est très important le<< wai, >>, car non seulement on leur viens en aide matériel, mais ils sont respecter comme des personnes a part entière, , ( loin de moi de faire une leçon sur le dons, , mais simplement souvent les étranger ne savent pas faire ce geste, , )
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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donc en France, si votre logique est la même, vous DEVEZ laisser une heure de travail en pourboire:
actuellement, le smic horaire est à 8 €
Bonjour,
Tiens, retour au bercail? Atterrisage en douceur?
Le jour de mon arrivée, un taxi m'a demandé 8 Euros pour une course de 1 km et quand je lui ai tendu un billet de 10 Euros, il est parti avec un grand sourire!
Bonjour,
Tiens, retour au bercail? Atterrisage en douceur?
Le jour de mon arrivée, un taxi m'a demandé 8 Euros pour une course de 1 km et quand je lui ai tendu un billet de 10 Euros, il est parti avec un grand sourire!
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
C'est le geste qu'on fait main jointes, plus ou moins haut par rapport à sa propre figure quand on salut quelqu'un en disant sawatdee khrap (quand on est un homme) ou sawatdee kha (quand on est une femme)
Que veut dire "Wai"
Que veut dire "Wai"
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
Quand je dis qu'on a attendu, on a pas poireauté 15min... 🤪
En lui filant les billets, on s'attendait à avoir un retour c'est tout, il nous a dit "merci", bah voilà on a pas cherché la bête 😉
Sincèrement, j'ai eu un avis mitigé quand au thai face aux farang sincèrement, je les ai trouvé très courtois et très aimable à partir du moment ou l'on pouvait leur apporter de la thune pour la majorité... Bien sur nous somme tombé sur des gens fabuleux qui étaient honnêtes et adorables mais si peu à comparer des gens qui nous accoste en pleine rue pour nous aider et qui en fin de compte ne veule qu'une chose : te diriger vers un de leur magasin...🤪
Et malgré le fait de le savoir via VF, on s'est quand même fait eu en beauté à chiang mai, et ce dans un temple 🤪 du coup j'ai eu un beau costume fait par un magasin irréprochable mais assez cher quand même... ils sont très pro j'ai trouvé mais bon le prix par rapport à bangkok... 3x plus
donc à partir de ce constat, je dilapide pas mon blé n'importe comment surtout qu'on a eu des blème de retrait aux distributeur car en france les possesseur de CB sont limité à 300eur pour 7 jour...
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Hi there,
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
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Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
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Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
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Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.