Florence
Puerto Natales - Puerto Montt en ferry
by FloEtHugo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous allons faire un tour en Amérique du sud avec mon copain, et avons vue qu'il y avait un ferry qui partez de puerto Natales à puerto Montt.
Quelqu'un l'aurai-t-il déjà fait ?
Que comprend le prix du voyage et combien de temps dur t il ?
Sommes nous obliger de réserver en avance ? Car nous ne savons pas la date précise de notre départ sur place.
Si vous avez des conseils ect n’hésitez pas !!!
Merci
Florence
Florence
Bonjour,
Tu trouveras un certain nombre d'infos pratique sur le site de Navimag... http://www.navimag.com/site/
Belle prépa de votre voyage
Tu trouveras un certain nombre d'infos pratique sur le site de Navimag... http://www.navimag.com/site/
Belle prépa de votre voyage
Salut Florence,
Entre Puerto Montt et Puerto Natales il y a effectivement le Navimag. J'y ai voyagé avec mon amie. Nous avons passé plus de 3 mois en Argentine/Chili et pour ne rien te cacher c'est un de nos meilleurs souvenirs de ce voyage. Les paysages sont fabuleux, et inaccessibles sans ce bateau. La plupart du trajet se fait dans des "canaux", avec une petite incursion côté haute mer, donc un tout petit peu plus remuante. Il y a une très bonne ambiance à bord. Le prix comprend le voyage + couchette + pension complète.
Nous avons eu la chance de faire ce trajet par très beau temps ce qui ne gâte rien. J'ai récemment discuté à ce sujet avec Aurélie, une autre VFiste, qui en garde le même très bon souvenir. Elle raconte ça dans son blog vas voir ici: http://smilingaroundtheworld.com/?s=navimag
Il me semble que la traversée dure 4 jours. Je te conseille de réserver avant, je ne sais plus si c'est obligatoire (mais nous n'avions réservé que quelques jours avant, voire 2 jours avant).
Bref je te le conseille vivement. Bon voyage.
Entre Puerto Montt et Puerto Natales il y a effectivement le Navimag. J'y ai voyagé avec mon amie. Nous avons passé plus de 3 mois en Argentine/Chili et pour ne rien te cacher c'est un de nos meilleurs souvenirs de ce voyage. Les paysages sont fabuleux, et inaccessibles sans ce bateau. La plupart du trajet se fait dans des "canaux", avec une petite incursion côté haute mer, donc un tout petit peu plus remuante. Il y a une très bonne ambiance à bord. Le prix comprend le voyage + couchette + pension complète.
Nous avons eu la chance de faire ce trajet par très beau temps ce qui ne gâte rien. J'ai récemment discuté à ce sujet avec Aurélie, une autre VFiste, qui en garde le même très bon souvenir. Elle raconte ça dans son blog vas voir ici: http://smilingaroundtheworld.com/?s=navimag
Il me semble que la traversée dure 4 jours. Je te conseille de réserver avant, je ne sais plus si c'est obligatoire (mais nous n'avions réservé que quelques jours avant, voire 2 jours avant).
Bref je te le conseille vivement. Bon voyage.
"Le monde vous traverse et pour un temps vous prête ses couleurs" (N. Bouvier)
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Merci Chouhibou !
Oui ça à l'air magnifique, de plus que si on veux remonté le chili ça m'a l'air la meilleur solution sinon on est obliger de passé l'argentine, chose qu'on à déjà faite ! Il y a des couchettes ou tu peux dormir à plusieur pour payer moins cher me semble t il ? Quand tu dis "La plupart du trajet se fait dans des "canaux", avec une petite incursion côté haute mer" c'est qu'on fait des petite ercussion pendant le trajet ? Qui est compris dans le pris ou faut il payer en plus ? Merci pour toutes c'est info ! Je pense que en effet on réservera en avance surtout au mois de novembre je crois qu'il y a du monde ! et il n'y a que le mardi à 6h du matin que le bateau part ! J'avais envoyé un message à navimag ! On peux reserver par internet ou par téléphone non ? même une fois arrivé au chili ?
merci ! Et dans le chili vous aviez fait quoi d'autre ? j'aimerai allé aussi à l'île chiloé ou j'ai vu des bon avis dessu ça m'a l'air très beau ! Vous y êtes allé ?
Oui ça à l'air magnifique, de plus que si on veux remonté le chili ça m'a l'air la meilleur solution sinon on est obliger de passé l'argentine, chose qu'on à déjà faite ! Il y a des couchettes ou tu peux dormir à plusieur pour payer moins cher me semble t il ? Quand tu dis "La plupart du trajet se fait dans des "canaux", avec une petite incursion côté haute mer" c'est qu'on fait des petite ercussion pendant le trajet ? Qui est compris dans le pris ou faut il payer en plus ? Merci pour toutes c'est info ! Je pense que en effet on réservera en avance surtout au mois de novembre je crois qu'il y a du monde ! et il n'y a que le mardi à 6h du matin que le bateau part ! J'avais envoyé un message à navimag ! On peux reserver par internet ou par téléphone non ? même une fois arrivé au chili ?
merci ! Et dans le chili vous aviez fait quoi d'autre ? j'aimerai allé aussi à l'île chiloé ou j'ai vu des bon avis dessu ça m'a l'air très beau ! Vous y êtes allé ?
Salut Florence,
Non, il n'y a pas d'excursion. Tout le monde reste dans le bateau. Mais souvent il circule au milieu de tout un tas d'îles et îlots qui donnent l'impression d'un espace protégé, par rapport à l'océan qui bouge plus. Donc au cours du trajet le bateau ne reste que quelques heures côté océan, sinon ils navigue entre les îles. Oui il y a des "compartiments" de 4 couchettes. Y'a sûrement plusieurs classes de confort mais je ne me souviens plus des autres. Oui nous avions réservé par internet.
Oui Chiloé pas mal du tout. En face de Chiloé il y avait un endroit qu'on a adoré, avec un parc national, mais je crois que c'est interdit maintenant, tout a été ravagé par l'éruption d'un volcan (je ne sais plus si c'est Chaïten ou El Chalten, je confonds avec la ville argentine). Ah ça y est j'ai retrouvé c'est Chaïten. On avait aimé ce drôle d'endroit. Si c'est ré-ouvert c'est une ambiance très spéciale.
J'ai aimé les vignobles près de Talca (mais si tu n'aimes pas le vin...)
Plus au nord il y a le Villarica, un volcan dont on peut faire l'ascension (en groupe sauf si tu es experte). C'est vraiment très chouette et la descente est top (sur les fesses, dans des "tubes" de neige, grosse rigolade). C'est faisable même si on n'est pas un grand sportif, mais bon je suis arrivé essoufflé.
Ensuite la ville de Valparaiso, j'espère qu'il reste quelque chose de sympa après les grands incendies de ces derniers mois.
Très au nord j'ai beaucoup aimé Iquique. Arica aussi dans une moindre mesure. Depuis ces villes du nord il faut faire des incursions à l'intérieur, vers le désert. Il y a des chouettes endroits.
Regarde sur mon profil. J'ai raconté une partie de ce voyage ce sont les carnets intitulés "sur la route del Sur"
J'espère que je t'aurais aidée
Non, il n'y a pas d'excursion. Tout le monde reste dans le bateau. Mais souvent il circule au milieu de tout un tas d'îles et îlots qui donnent l'impression d'un espace protégé, par rapport à l'océan qui bouge plus. Donc au cours du trajet le bateau ne reste que quelques heures côté océan, sinon ils navigue entre les îles. Oui il y a des "compartiments" de 4 couchettes. Y'a sûrement plusieurs classes de confort mais je ne me souviens plus des autres. Oui nous avions réservé par internet.
Oui Chiloé pas mal du tout. En face de Chiloé il y avait un endroit qu'on a adoré, avec un parc national, mais je crois que c'est interdit maintenant, tout a été ravagé par l'éruption d'un volcan (je ne sais plus si c'est Chaïten ou El Chalten, je confonds avec la ville argentine). Ah ça y est j'ai retrouvé c'est Chaïten. On avait aimé ce drôle d'endroit. Si c'est ré-ouvert c'est une ambiance très spéciale.
J'ai aimé les vignobles près de Talca (mais si tu n'aimes pas le vin...)
Plus au nord il y a le Villarica, un volcan dont on peut faire l'ascension (en groupe sauf si tu es experte). C'est vraiment très chouette et la descente est top (sur les fesses, dans des "tubes" de neige, grosse rigolade). C'est faisable même si on n'est pas un grand sportif, mais bon je suis arrivé essoufflé.
Ensuite la ville de Valparaiso, j'espère qu'il reste quelque chose de sympa après les grands incendies de ces derniers mois.
Très au nord j'ai beaucoup aimé Iquique. Arica aussi dans une moindre mesure. Depuis ces villes du nord il faut faire des incursions à l'intérieur, vers le désert. Il y a des chouettes endroits.
Regarde sur mon profil. J'ai raconté une partie de ce voyage ce sont les carnets intitulés "sur la route del Sur"
J'espère que je t'aurais aidée
"Le monde vous traverse et pour un temps vous prête ses couleurs" (N. Bouvier)
Sites persos: Mon grand voyage : http://laparenthesenomade.e-monsite.com/ Mon séjour de 13 mois en Antarctique... http://alenversdelaterre.e-monsite.com/
Sites persos: Mon grand voyage : http://laparenthesenomade.e-monsite.com/ Mon séjour de 13 mois en Antarctique... http://alenversdelaterre.e-monsite.com/
Tu n'es pas allé vers punta arenas ? par hasard !
Nous y sommes restés un peu car mon amie y connaissait quelqu'un. Ça ne m'a pas laissé un souvenir impérissable. Mais c'est là que j'ai mis les pieds nus dans les eaux du détroit de Magellan 🙂 Un petit symbole quand on a le voyage dans les gènes.
Bon voilà pour l'anecdote mais je crois que tu ne rates pas grand chose si tu n'y vas pas
Nous y sommes restés un peu car mon amie y connaissait quelqu'un. Ça ne m'a pas laissé un souvenir impérissable. Mais c'est là que j'ai mis les pieds nus dans les eaux du détroit de Magellan 🙂 Un petit symbole quand on a le voyage dans les gènes.
Bon voilà pour l'anecdote mais je crois que tu ne rates pas grand chose si tu n'y vas pas
"Le monde vous traverse et pour un temps vous prête ses couleurs" (N. Bouvier)
Sites persos: Mon grand voyage : http://laparenthesenomade.e-monsite.com/ Mon séjour de 13 mois en Antarctique... http://alenversdelaterre.e-monsite.com/
Sites persos: Mon grand voyage : http://laparenthesenomade.e-monsite.com/ Mon séjour de 13 mois en Antarctique... http://alenversdelaterre.e-monsite.com/
Bonjour,
Punta Arenas est une ville plutôt grande avec un beau centre-ville et un cimetière qui vaut la visite. Depuis Punta Arenas, il est possible de faire une excursion vers l'ile Magdelena pour y voir des manchots (mais c'est cher!).
Dans toutes les villes du Chili, je te conseille de visiter le marché central et d'y déguster les spécialités locales fraichement cuisinées, c'est un régal pour les yeux et les papilles!
Bonjour,
Je suis déjà allé à Ushuaïa c'est vrai que c'est sympa de se dire qu'on est à l'autre bout du monde !
Et on voulait retourné dans un parc naturelle à l'autre bout du monde cet impression là est simpa. Il me semble qu'il y a un parque naturelle près de punta arenas il est sympa ?
C'est vrai que j'ai vu qu'il y avait un endroit ou on pouvait voir les manchot mais tout est payant c'est rallan ^^
Merci pour vos réponse !!
C'est vrai que j'ai vu qu'il y avait un endroit ou on pouvait voir les manchot mais tout est payant c'est rallan ^^
Merci pour vos réponse !!
Bonjour,
Nous avons apprécié le coeur de Punta Arenas mais n'en ferions pas une étape obligatoire. C'était un passage pour prendre l'avion vers Puerto Montt.
A quelle période envisagez-vous ce voyage ? Selon la période, la réserve d'isla Magdalena peut être fermée...
Nous avons apprécié le coeur de Punta Arenas mais n'en ferions pas une étape obligatoire. C'était un passage pour prendre l'avion vers Puerto Montt.
A quelle période envisagez-vous ce voyage ? Selon la période, la réserve d'isla Magdalena peut être fermée...
Bonjour,
Oui, comme la plupart des parcs et des réserves, elle est payante... http://www.islamagdalena.com/
Il y a des auberges de jeunesse... dans PA
Au nord du Chili, nous sommes uniquement allés à San Pedro de Atacama.
Oui, comme la plupart des parcs et des réserves, elle est payante... http://www.islamagdalena.com/
Il y a des auberges de jeunesse... dans PA
Au nord du Chili, nous sommes uniquement allés à San Pedro de Atacama.
Bonjour,
Nous ne sommes pas allés à Puerto Williams. Pour les animaux, il faut tenir compte de la période de voyage. En août, par exemple, la réserve d'isla Magdalena est fermée...
Peut-être des infos par là: http://www.ptowilliams.cl/Agencias.html
Nous ne sommes pas allés à Puerto Williams. Pour les animaux, il faut tenir compte de la période de voyage. En août, par exemple, la réserve d'isla Magdalena est fermée...
Peut-être des infos par là: http://www.ptowilliams.cl/Agencias.html
Ah oui j'avais oublié.
C'est à Punta Arenas qu'on a vu ce très beau cimetière
"Le monde vous traverse et pour un temps vous prête ses couleurs" (N. Bouvier)
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Bonjour Florence,
Que comprend le prix du voyage et combien de temps dur t il ? Sommes nous obliger de réserver en avance ?
Au mois de Mars dernier nous avions payé environ 330 € par personne pour cette croisière de 4 jours / 3 nuits dans le sens Puerrto Montt - Puerto Natales . Nous ne l' avions réservée que 4 jours avant, via le site "Navimag" ... c' est vraiment très simple (le récit de notre traversée figure sur cette page -lien-) .
la réserve d'isla Magdalena est payante ? C'est combien à peu près ? on peux logé où dans des endroit pas cher ? peut être campé ?
Prix de l' excursion vers l' île Magdalena de 37 à 55 € selon l' agence et la taille du bateau . A Punta Arenas, nous logions à l' Hostal Independencia, (lien) tarif 27 € pour une chambre triple ; possibilité de camper pour 3 fois rien dans le jardin de cette auberge . Si on n' envisage pas aller rendre visite aux pingouins de l' île Magdalena (personnellement, nous ne nous y sommes pas rendus jugeant le tarif trop élevé), Punta Arenas n' est selon nous, pas une visite incontournable (à choisir, nous nous serions volontiers attardés un peu plus dans le magnifique Parc de Torres del Paine !) .
Zou ... Jean-Fi .
Que comprend le prix du voyage et combien de temps dur t il ? Sommes nous obliger de réserver en avance ?
Au mois de Mars dernier nous avions payé environ 330 € par personne pour cette croisière de 4 jours / 3 nuits dans le sens Puerrto Montt - Puerto Natales . Nous ne l' avions réservée que 4 jours avant, via le site "Navimag" ... c' est vraiment très simple (le récit de notre traversée figure sur cette page -lien-) .
la réserve d'isla Magdalena est payante ? C'est combien à peu près ? on peux logé où dans des endroit pas cher ? peut être campé ?
Prix de l' excursion vers l' île Magdalena de 37 à 55 € selon l' agence et la taille du bateau . A Punta Arenas, nous logions à l' Hostal Independencia, (lien) tarif 27 € pour une chambre triple ; possibilité de camper pour 3 fois rien dans le jardin de cette auberge . Si on n' envisage pas aller rendre visite aux pingouins de l' île Magdalena (personnellement, nous ne nous y sommes pas rendus jugeant le tarif trop élevé), Punta Arenas n' est selon nous, pas une visite incontournable (à choisir, nous nous serions volontiers attardés un peu plus dans le magnifique Parc de Torres del Paine !) .
Zou ... Jean-Fi .
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Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine