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Randonnée avec enfants au Maroc en avril
by Puertolopez
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
je recherche des idées d'itinéraires de randonnée au Maroc sur 4 jours début avril 2018. Nous partons en famille avec 2 enfants de 8 et 11 ans qui ont l'habitude de marcher. Randonnée plutôt en moyenne montagne pour éviter d'avoir à croiser la neige ...
Savez vous également si les rivières sont hautes à cette époque ou si on peut se promener dans des gorges ?
Enfin avez vous des conseils pour trouver un "muletier-guide" ?
merci par avance pour vos infos !
merci par avance pour vos infos !
Je conseille la région de Ait Bouguemez. Beau quand c'est vert au printemps. En cas d'hiver enneigé, possible crue des torrents comme pour la descente des gorges de la Mgoun (sinon recommandée).
Bonne idée !
En 4 jours, juste à côté on peut faire aussi la vallée des Ait Boulli , encore très authentique et si charmante. A faire avec un guide d'Agouti
Voir mon blog
fanaumaroc.canalblog.com/archives/2017/06/11/35667732.html
En 4 jours, juste à côté on peut faire aussi la vallée des Ait Boulli , encore très authentique et si charmante. A faire avec un guide d'Agouti
Voir mon blog
fanaumaroc.canalblog.com/archives/2017/06/11/35667732.html
Je peux vous conseiller Brahim à Imin'Oulaoune. Nous avons eu l'occasion de faire un peu de rando avec lui. C'était super. C'est Mohamed du gite kasbah la palmeraie de Skoura qui avait pris contact avec Brahim. Il propose de partir vers le M'Goun avec une nuit en refuge. C'est magnifique.Bonjour,
Idées d'itinéraires ?
Vas voir les sites de "Voyagistes" spécialisés "Maroc". Ils ont plein de trucs, Regarde les photos, fais toi une idée, et cherche sur le Net, le "local" ( le Réceptif dans le jargon des TO, qui fait le truc), tu le contacte (de France ou sur place), et hop! c'est parti !
Bonnes Randos,
Razul
Pour nos balades au Maroc, on est passé par cette petite agence locale :
http://www.terresnomades.com/qui-sommes-nous/agence-voyages-maroc/
Pas très cher et ça a été toujours sans problèmes ....
Avec de grands enfants (8 et 11, ça marche déjà bien, pour peu qu'ils soient intéressés ) on peut envisager les montagnes et début Avril, la neige est déjà loin !!! - Alors, les environs du Toubkal, le m'Goun, les itinéraires de trek ne manquent pas !!
Bonne préparation
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
....Debut Avril, la neige est déja loin !!! .....
Peut etre la seule fois ou vous y étes allé? Les alentours du M'goun et du Toubkal, ou il y a des cols à 30000 sont parfois impraticables jusqu'à fin avril. Et c'est tant mieux pour les barrages et l'agriculture.
Peut etre la seule fois ou vous y étes allé? Les alentours du M'goun et du Toubkal, ou il y a des cols à 30000 sont parfois impraticables jusqu'à fin avril. Et c'est tant mieux pour les barrages et l'agriculture.
....Debut Avril, la neige est déja loin !!! .....
Peut etre la seule fois ou vous y étes allé? Les alentours du M'goun et du Toubkal, ou il y a des cols à 30000 sont parfois impraticables jusqu'à fin avril. Et c'est tant mieux pour les barrages et l'agriculture.
Je suis passé dans le secteur plusieurs fois, rassurez vous ... la dernière, avec la neige (mais c'était en Novembre) .. une bonne crachée d'une trentaine de cm qui nous a fermé le passage du premier col à plus de 3.000 (les mules n'auraient pas pu passer ..) - Petit changement d'itinéraire et deux jours plus tard, nous avons pu monter au Toubkal .... Je pense donc que la neige, fin avril, est un problème "contournable", même au prix d'une adaptation du parcours ... Je serais plus prudent sur les parcours incluant des gorges ...
Peut etre la seule fois ou vous y étes allé? Les alentours du M'goun et du Toubkal, ou il y a des cols à 30000 sont parfois impraticables jusqu'à fin avril. Et c'est tant mieux pour les barrages et l'agriculture.
Je suis passé dans le secteur plusieurs fois, rassurez vous ... la dernière, avec la neige (mais c'était en Novembre) .. une bonne crachée d'une trentaine de cm qui nous a fermé le passage du premier col à plus de 3.000 (les mules n'auraient pas pu passer ..) - Petit changement d'itinéraire et deux jours plus tard, nous avons pu monter au Toubkal .... Je pense donc que la neige, fin avril, est un problème "contournable", même au prix d'une adaptation du parcours ... Je serais plus prudent sur les parcours incluant des gorges ...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Oui, vous avez raison les gorges ça n'est pas toujours praticable. En avril, il peut y avoir beaucoup d'eau. Mais dans cette vallée, les possibilités de rando sont nombreuses. A l'auberge Awayou, on peut avoir d'excellents conseils. Ils se proposent aussi de vous laisser à un certain endroit, de vous laisser le temps de faire votre randonnée et de vous récupérer plus loin en voiture. Ou encore de partir sur plusieurs jours avec nuit en gîte d'étape.
Bonjour
merci à tous pour vos réponses, nous allons regarder les régions que vous nous avez indiqué.
Et sinon, en terme de route, 200 km de Marrakech cela représente combien d'heures de route ?
Pour Ait Bouguemez, il y a un bus et des grands taxis jusque Azilal, puis des minibus sur la route de montagne. Cela prend une journée.
Bonjour
en regardant un peu, la vallée du Zat parait sympa pour 4 jours de rando. est ce que l'un d'entre vous connait ?
merci de vos retours !
merci de vos retours !
Bonjour;
c'est vrai; la vallée de Zat est très belle en printemps surtout, j ai déjà fait de treks dans cette vallée et les environs.
Pour faire cette vallée avec les enfants de 8 et 11 ans; devient une benne idée; car pas de difficulté physique ou technique.
La ballade passe avec les mules et un guide, passer d'une vallon à l'autre par des cols du 2000 m; traverser toute la vallée d'un village à l'autre...
Bon rando Med
c'est vrai; la vallée de Zat est très belle en printemps surtout, j ai déjà fait de treks dans cette vallée et les environs.
Pour faire cette vallée avec les enfants de 8 et 11 ans; devient une benne idée; car pas de difficulté physique ou technique.
La ballade passe avec les mules et un guide, passer d'une vallon à l'autre par des cols du 2000 m; traverser toute la vallée d'un village à l'autre...
Bon rando Med
C'est en marchant que se fait le chemin...!
comme d'hab, sur ce forum, tout le monde parle même si l'expérience du locuteur se limite à une ou deux sorties de qq jours...
1) début avril, la neige des sommets fond et les oueds sont assez gros; c'st la période idéale pour le kayak ou le raft, mais surement pas pour une descente de gorges à pied
2) début avril, les dernières chutes de neige sont encore très probables, et il est illusoire de vouloir passer au dessus de 2500m avec des mules !
3) c'est une époque où la moyenne montagne est très agréable : les villages sont en pleine activité, la végétation se défoule (des fleurs, des jardins verdoyants...), la neige là-haut habille les sommets, etc...
Donc, à mon avis, votre idée de faire un tour du côté du ZAt est excellente. Vous ferez Partout des rencontres.
Par exemple, depuis Arba Tighdwine, monter sur le flanc est du Yagour vers Ait Ourhayn et Igoudmène, aller voir un peu au dessus quelques blocs avec de grandes gravures : une déesse qui accouche par le pied ? un grand dieu.. puis passer sur le flanc nord (Aourir et Tichki), , descendre vers la vallée en dessous (une jolie boucle par Iznaguen) et poursuivre vers le flanc ouest et l'Ourika, soit en passant par Tizi n'oucheg et Annamer, soit suivant la vallée d'Iznaguen vers le Tasghimout et les salines.
Pour cela, essayez des guides soit qui sont originaires de l'Ourika soit de la vallée du Zat; un certain Brahim tient un gîte à Tizi n'ouches et peut convenir ?
Bonne chance.
chibani
Bonjour
merci pour ces infos intéressantes
on va effectivement regarder pour la vallée du Zat.
Si vous avez des noms de guide à me transmettre, je suis preneur !
bonne soirée
à part le Brahim que j'ai évoqué ce matin, je connais très peu de guides, je me débrouille seul en général. Alors, avec un moteur de recherche ou à partir de la liste officielle des guides de la région visée, envoyez un projet d'itinéraire tel que je vous l'ai proposé à plusieurs de ces guides et lisez bien leurs propositions, en essayant de deviner s'ils connaissent bien le coin (les gravures par exemple) et s'ils ont un peu le sens de l'organisation : une bonne partie d'entre eux a eu son diplôme dans une pochette-surprise, sans réelle connaissance de l'Atlas et de la berbéritude, se limitant à trimbaler les touristes sur des itinéraires lambda, sur des pistes carrossables (c'est + facile). Je vous souhaite un peu de flair et de chance.
Même si votre choix n'est pas le meilleur, vous serez enchantés de ces 3 ou 4 jours dans un univers à des années-lumière de ce que vous connaissez !
chibani
excusez ma mémoire défaillante, ce n'est pas Brahim mais Rachid le gars de Tizi n'Oucheg
chibani
Bonsoir;
je connais un guide de montagne d origine de cette région qui peut vous accompagner pendant ce trek dans la vallée du Zat.
voici son adresse email; trekmontagne@gmail.com
bon trek
je connais un guide de montagne d origine de cette région qui peut vous accompagner pendant ce trek dans la vallée du Zat.
voici son adresse email; trekmontagne@gmail.com
bon trek
C'est en marchant que se fait le chemin...!
Si vous cherchez des coordonnées de guide vous pouvez regarder sur SoGuide !
Y'a une quinzaine de guides de randonnées au Maroc avec tous les retours des clients qui ont faita ppel à eux :) je vous mets le lien au cas où ça vous intéresse : http://www.so-guide.com/trouver-un-guide/maroc/
Bonne chance dans vos recherches !
Y'a une quinzaine de guides de randonnées au Maroc avec tous les retours des clients qui ont faita ppel à eux :) je vous mets le lien au cas où ça vous intéresse : http://www.so-guide.com/trouver-un-guide/maroc/
Bonne chance dans vos recherches !
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From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance