Retour de l'ouest des Etats-Unis
by Cathour
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Voilà, pour nous c'est fini...
Retour hier de 17 jous dans l'ouest, plein d'images dans les yeux, temps superbe, peu de monde à cette saison.
Merci à tous les forumeurs qui ont répondu à mes questions pendant ces 9 mois de préparation.
Je vais essayer de faire un carnet de voyages dans les prochains jours.
Et pour ceux qui veulent voir notre parcours :http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1296462;#1296462
Nous étions au Greenwich inn dans une rue parallèle à Lombard street (à l'ouest).
Le motel était correct, au calme car pas directement sur Lombard, un peu excentré mais près du golden Gate et de Union street. Le propriétaire était par contre plutôt froid.
J'avais réservé directement sur leur site internet 100 $ (ttc) la chambre avec deux lits 140.
Sur Lombard street, à deux pas, je conseille Mel's drive in pour le petit déj : une salle année 50, des plats très bons et des serveurs très sympas (le premier oeufs bacon, entre la façon de cuire l'oeuf, le type de pain, l'accompagnement...il leur faut de la patience quant comme moi la pratique de l'anglais date un peu!)
Bonsoir,
Heureux pour vous de ce beau voyage, une question ou plutôt deux :
La Tioga était elle ouverte?
Temps et température ?
Merci
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Elle était effectivement ouverte le 30 octobre quant nous sommes passés.
Nous avons cependant une bonne frayeur : la veille, il y avait eu un gros orgae pendant que nous étions à Mariposa Grove. Du coup ils ont fermé le matin du 30 à cause des risques de verglas mais heureusement, elle a été réouverte vers midi.
Nous sommes passés sans problème, il n'y avait pas de traces de neige sur tout le parcours.
Apparemment, ils ne prennent aucun risque et ne la laissent ouverte que si les conditions sont optimales.
Tu peux voir les conditions mises à jour très régulièrement sur le site du NPS et aussi les moyennes d'ouverture et de fermeture les 20 dernières années. Après, si tu passes sur une période critique, c'est un peu du quitte au double. nous, on avait prévu 2 possibilités sur la journée suivante, une avec visite de Bodie si on pouvait passer et l'autre avec détour via le sud ou le nord .
Tu as été chanceux je vois. j'espère qu'il en sera de même le 31/10/2008 j'y serais.
Sinon le reste de ton voyage quelles conditions météo as tu rencontrées ?
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Nous sommes partis le 26 octobre pour San Francisoce tretour le 10/11 via Phoenix.
Nous avons eu un temps magnifique: du ciel bleu tout le temps (y compris àsan Francisco), une seule après midi grise avec un orage d'1/2 heure à Yosemite.
côté température: autour de 20 °c en journée et des nuits plutôt froides (évite le camping !) et jusqu'à 28°c à Phoenix.
j'avais fait un peu le même trajet en 1990 (sans la partie Moab) à la même période avec des températures similaires.
Ce qui est super c'est qu'il y a vraiment peu de monde dans les parcs et les températures sont idéales pour se balader.
Par contre, les journées sont courtes, il faut donc bien organiser son temps...
Effectivement c'est un peu le problème, il fait nuit vers 18h apparement, lever matinal obligatoire donc 🤪 !
Pour la météo il me semble que je vais avoir un peu les mêmes conditions que j'avais eu en avril /mai les deux précédentes fois, chouet !!
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Un arrêt à Williams pour manger une pointe de tarte.
bonsoir,
Qu'est ce que tu appelles le tour classique ?
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
bonsoir,
Qu'est ce que vous avez préferez, qu'est ce qui selon vous est le plus spectaculaire ? Avons 3 semaines cet été avec 3 jeunes enfants.
Merci tout plein
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Le tour que j'appelle classique est " las vegas, Monument valley, Moab (avec Arches, canyonland), Brice et zion"
Je pense qu'en 3 semaines, vous pouvez aller au yellostone. Nous, on le fera l'été prochain . On a déja réserver les hébergements là bas. On a aussi 3 enfants ( 4, 7 et 9 ans). Je vous dirai au retour..
Je pense qu'en 3 semaines, vous pouvez aller au yellostone. Nous, on le fera l'été prochain . On a déja réserver les hébergements là bas. On a aussi 3 enfants ( 4, 7 et 9 ans). Je vous dirai au retour..
Oh oui, chouette, recontactez nous, nos enfants ont quasi le même âge (8, 6 et 4).
Bon voyage, vous êtes déjà sur les states, isn'it ?
Nous attendons vos expériences avec grande impatience .
à bientôt
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Pas de souci pour l'école des enfants ?
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Désolé, nous n'avons pas fait cette partie de route. Nous nous sommes arrêtés à Flagstaff entre Grand Canyon et Phoenix et nous avons beaucoup aimé: les trains de longueur effarante qui passent tout le temps (je ne conseillerais pas les motels si c'est pareil la nuit !), les bâtiments anciens de la ville, le côté bon enfant, la route en arrivant de Grand Canyon.
Arrêt petit déjeuner au Café express dans San Francisco street : plats classiques mais pas lourd et légumes frais, vrais jus de fruits, mes oeufs bénédict étaient un délice !
Par contre ce n'est qu'à 1h30 du Grand canyon.
tu peux essayer de voir Seligman ou Kingman qui sont aussi sur la route 66.
Difficile de répondre ! En lisant les posts du forum vous verrez que les avis sont partagés sur les différents parcs.
Les enfants ont beaucoup aimé la visite du sous marin USS Pampanito à San francisco, les séquoias géants de Mariposa Grove à Yosemite, la visite de Bodie, la ballade Queens+Navaro dans Bryce canyon (les ballades en général courtes avec plein de cailloux à escalader comme Hitchman trail à Capitol Reef, Arches), la randonnée à cheval dans Monument valley (il faut dire que mes filles de 10 et 6 ans 3/4 font toutes les deux du poney), les animaux partout dans les parcs (coyotes, biches, écureuils, mouflons, dindes sauvages, malheureusement pas d'ours)...et le spa et la piscine intérieure du Ruby's inn !
De manière générale les plus 3 petites (nous étions 4 adultes avec 6 enfants de 16, 13, 12, 10, 10 et 6 ans) se sont vite lassées des paysages (prévoir du coloriage dans la voiture pour les lignes droites...) mais n'ont jamais vraiment ralé sur les distances parcourues (il y a toujours un gros camion ou des animaux à voir).
Par contre, en été je pense qu'avec des enfants, Yellowstone doit être super, mais c'est un peu excentré du "tour classique" comme dit Patemma.
Super merci. Mais c'est où le Ruby's inn ?
Et les animaux, où exactement peut-on en voir beaucoup ? Et les reconstitutions d'un semblant d'indiens ??? (notre fils ne parle que de ça). Bon attérissage en tout cas !
Marie
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
Le Ruby's inn, c'est le BestWestern à l'entrée Bryce canyon. C'était super en hors saison car nous avons eu le spa et la piscine pratiquement pour nous tous seuls, une chambre au bord du lac pour 70 $ +taxes mais en été ça doit vraiment être l'usine à touristes.
Les animaux type biches ou écureuils, il y en a partout dans les parcs. Si tu dors dans les logements de Yosemite ou Grand canyon ou autre, tu en auras le matin au lever devant ta chambre. Pour les ours, c'est Yosemite ou Yellowstone, mais nous n'avons pas eu la chance d'en voir.
Nous avons vu un coyote dans la vallée de la mort (près du motel à Furnace creek) et un pendant la ballade à cheval dans Monument valley, les mouflons c'était dans Canyonlands et les dindes du côté de Moab, les bouquetins dans Bright angel trail à Grand canyon.
Pour les indiens, il va falloir expliquer à ton fils qu'ils n'ont plus de plumes et habitent maintenant dans des mobil'homes ! sachant que l'habitat originel se compose d'un hogan (sorte de hutte) et pas de tipis même si on en voit parfois dans les lieux touristiques. Il y a pas mal de villes fantômes reconstituées dans le coin mais elle montrent plutôt les cowboys...
Par contre, je te conseille chaudement le Heard Museum à Phoenix sur la culture indienne: collection impressionnante de Kachinas (poupées indiennes), de vêtements et deux salles consacrées aux enfants où ils peuvent faire des ateliers et des jeux interactifs pour comprendre comment les indiens tissaient, faisaient leurs paniers, etc. Chaque tribu de l'ouest est présenté. C'est vraiment ludique même s'il ne savent pas parler anglais.
Merci pour les infos. Bon, Ruby's inn en plein mois d'août, on s'abstiendra alors, à moins qu'il n'y ait d'autres alternatives !! Le musée, on le fera ! Vous avez logé où à Phnix ? Vous le recommanderiez pour des enfants ?
Le terme "usine à touristes" m'effraye un peu, ...nous qui avons l'habitude des sommets hymalayens et des grands espaces de brousse ou savane !!! Il y a t-il des endroits un peu hors sentier battu, sympas pour les enfants ?
à bientôt
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
A Phoenix, on a logé au Travelodge près de l'aéroport car on repartait le lendemain. Par contre je ne le conseille pas du tout, le motel est classique et correct mais le quartier est très bof (près de la prison, on a vu une arrestation...).
Pour les hors sentiers battus, je te conseille le carnet de voyage de Mlefevre sur ce forum et aussi le site ouestusa de Thierry (Wavemaster sur ce site), il est plein de ballades sympa et l'index est très pratique. Comme nous étions hors saison on n'a pas été géné par le monde même dans les endroits courus (une petite dizaine de personnes rencontrées sur la Queens Garden-Navajo loop à Bryce canyon par exemple) mais j'imagine qu'en été ça doit être assez terrible. Le seul endroit où nous avons eu un peu de monde c'est à Grand Canyon et encore dès qu'on s'éloigne un peu des points de vue, on est assez seuls.
Et pour le Ruby's inn, on n'avait pas réservé à cause des retours sur l'aspect "grosse machine" mais quant nous sommes arrivés, on a vu qu'il n'y avait pas trop de monde, alors on a tenté notre chance et c'était vraiment bien. On a pique niqué tous seuls au bord du lac près de tipi, les enfants y ont passé un bon moment et le soir le spa après la ballade a été apprécié...par tout le monde ! Je pense qu'en été, il y a de bonnes alternatives à Tropic qui n'est pas loin du tout, mais beaucoup d'endroits étaient fermés en novembre.
Merci !!! Navajo sympa ?
» L'expérience est une lanterne accrochée dans le dos qui n'éclaire que le chemin parcouru ..." Confucius
On est actuellement à Monument Valley. LA vue est superbe..... DEpuis le début, ce n'est que du reve.... Il fait beau et chaud (mais pas trop), on a pu marcher 6 heures dans le grand canyon. Les enfants ont adoré...
Monument valley est superbe, on y a passé 3H30. Il devait y avoir 10 voitures au maximum, on était seuls à tout les arrets... Les enfants ont refait des westerns et on a pu filmer sans voir une personne.... Aujourd'hui, on part à Arches...
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Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Merci de me conseiller pour la réservation pour la plus belle vue faut il réserver une chambre dans l'hôtel ou choisir une cabane ?
Prendre le petit déjeuner ou pas ?
Que pensez vous du restaurant ?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan





