Je vais aller cet été en bolivie en attérissant au Chili et rentrer en bolivie par San Pedro de Atacama pour desset de UYuni et sud Lipez le tour classique puis direction la Paz pour l'ascention du Potosi puis descente de la route de la mort......et un tour au lac Titicaca .....en gros voila mon voyage, quelqu un peut il m'éclaircir sur le buddget complet avec que des déplacements en bus(retour jusqu'a Santiago du chili compris), et faut il que je me fasse vacciné contre la fiévre jaune? merci d'avance
Risques de la fièvre jaune et budget pour la Bolivie cet été?
by Marignac
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salam
Je vais aller cet été en bolivie en attérissant au Chili et rentrer en bolivie par San Pedro de Atacama pour desset de UYuni et sud Lipez le tour classique puis direction la Paz pour l'ascention du Potosi puis descente de la route de la mort......et un tour au lac Titicaca .....en gros voila mon voyage, quelqu un peut il m'éclaircir sur le buddget complet avec que des déplacements en bus(retour jusqu'a Santiago du chili compris), et faut il que je me fasse vacciné contre la fiévre jaune? merci d'avance
Je vais aller cet été en bolivie en attérissant au Chili et rentrer en bolivie par San Pedro de Atacama pour desset de UYuni et sud Lipez le tour classique puis direction la Paz pour l'ascention du Potosi puis descente de la route de la mort......et un tour au lac Titicaca .....en gros voila mon voyage, quelqu un peut il m'éclaircir sur le buddget complet avec que des déplacements en bus(retour jusqu'a Santiago du chili compris), et faut il que je me fasse vacciné contre la fiévre jaune? merci d'avance
C EST EN FAISANT N IMPORTE QUOI QUE L ON DEVIENT N IMPORTE QUI
bonjour!
pour le budget je ne peux pas t aider, mais concernant le vaccin, voici une discussion qui pourrait t aider:
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/vaccin_contre_fievre_jaune_obligatoire_en_bolivie_D1668167/
bon voyage!! 😉
stephanie
bon voyage!! 😉
stephanie
Fièvre jaune : de toute façon obligatoire. Attention de te faire vacciner en temps et en heure pour que le vaccin soit efficace à ton arrivé.
Coût sur place : de 5 à 10 € la nuit, selon tes exigences,
repas au resto 2 à 5 € ou si tu optes pour l'almuerzo, c'est encore bien moins cher 10 bolivianos peuvent suffire (1 peu plus qu'1 euros) (almuerzo = plat du jour particulièrement typique, sopa de maïs, choño, quinoa, pollo, papas fritas, cerdo et autres mets courant. -entrée plat dessert boisson) (attentions à la chicha non fermentéequi peu te provoquer une courante phénoménale)
servi très généreusement. Parfois ou souvent ou toujours, faire attention aux crudités lavés avec une eau douteuse (pour nos boyaux européens seulement).
Si besoin d'adresses fiable, voir en MP. bon voyage
Si besoin d'adresses fiable, voir en MP. bon voyage
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
Merci à vous deux pour ces infos......................et n'oubliez pas:
mieux vaut avoir des souvennirs que des regrets alors voyagez.
mieux vaut avoir des souvennirs que des regrets alors voyagez.
C EST EN FAISANT N IMPORTE QUOI QUE L ON DEVIENT N IMPORTE QUI
Bonsoir
Je viens de rentrer d'Argentine avec une vuelta en Bolivie ci-joint la liste par pasteur des recommandations, pour te situer la fièvre jaune ne se soigne pas :mort assurée, le dengue :paracetamol et repelente, pour ma part je suis un ancien de l'Afrique donc tous les vaccins plus pneumo 23 efficave contre différentes grippes types h1n1 en préventive, ne te protège pas a 100%, +hépatites A Et B fait la totale par rapport aux effets secondaires la vie est courte, à part une tourista dûe a des excès je suis clean
Ps ne pas oublier la nivaquine (palu où malaria)
:http://www.pasteur-lille.fr/fr/sante/vaccin/desc_pays/ARGENTINE.htm
:http://www.pasteur-lille.fr/fr/sante/vaccin/desc_pays/ARGENTINE.htm
"Et j’irai loin, bien loin, comme un bohémien, par la nature, heureux comme avec une femme."
Arthur Rimbaud
salut,
Moi aussi je pars en bolivie, et j'ai une question pour la fievre jaune, connais tu des données de la presence de la maladie en bolivie ? a mon avis, c'est cette info qu'il faut trouver pour savoir si oui ou non c'est valable de se vacciner. comme je pars avec un bambin, j'ai pas envie de le vacciner pour rien,
j'ai lu que il n'y avait eu que 2 cas en 2006 et depuis 1 cas en 2007 et depuis rien...
Mais je ne suis pas trop sur de mes infos
salut Karine
salut Karine
HELLO
je me suis renseigné et les cas sont tres rare, je crois 6 en 2008, mais le probleme pour moi est plus d'ordre administratif car je vais passer du Chili en Bolivie et surement au Perou pareil pour le retour et j'ai peur que les autorités me bloque sans le certificat de vaccination a une des frontiére.............a voir
C EST EN FAISANT N IMPORTE QUOI QUE L ON DEVIENT N IMPORTE QUI
salut marignac,
oui, merci pour ton renseignement. moi aussi je passe de bolivie a chili et aussi argentine, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait de probleme. Pas obligatoire au chili meme pour les boliviens!!! est ce que tu vas dans la partie amazonnienne en bolivie ? Moi j'y vais, et c'est pour ça que j'hesite a faire ce vaccin, bonne journée et pt ê a un detour là bas!!! karine
Bonjour, je viens de voir le message qui date de 2009 et dans lequel tu parles d adresse fiable pr la Bolivie. Cela m interesserait. Je verifierai qu elles existent tjs ensuite.
merci par avance
merci par avance
Bonjours Del,
Je ne me souviens plus de ce message, il faudrait que je le recherche.
Je reviens de Bolivie (en juin) Que cherches-tu comme adresses ? Je suis prêt à te donner des infos.
Pour ce qui est des différents problèmes de santé, j'ai eu une discutions avec le toubib de l 'ambassade de France à La Paz. Une affection très courante en Bolivie et même les pays limitrophes : La Salmonellose. Beaucoup de personnes l' attrapent, mais c'est peu signalé. Cependant, la salmonellose est très atténuée pour les personnes vaccinés contre la fièvre typhoïde, les bactéries étant issues de la même souche. (une amie en à fais les frais).
A bientôt Dany
Je reviens de Bolivie (en juin) Que cherches-tu comme adresses ? Je suis prêt à te donner des infos.
Pour ce qui est des différents problèmes de santé, j'ai eu une discutions avec le toubib de l 'ambassade de France à La Paz. Une affection très courante en Bolivie et même les pays limitrophes : La Salmonellose. Beaucoup de personnes l' attrapent, mais c'est peu signalé. Cependant, la salmonellose est très atténuée pour les personnes vaccinés contre la fièvre typhoïde, les bactéries étant issues de la même souche. (une amie en à fais les frais).
A bientôt Dany
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
Merci Dany pour ces infos.
Je suis a la recherche d adresses d auberge de jeunesse, de bed and breakfast, de logement chez l habitant, surs et sympa. Nous pensons atterir a la paz mi decembre, partir au pérou et redescendre par la Bolivie pour finir en Argentine. Si tu as des bons plans à me filer sur ces pays, je suis preneuse.
A bientot.
Delphine
Je suis a la recherche d adresses d auberge de jeunesse, de bed and breakfast, de logement chez l habitant, surs et sympa. Nous pensons atterir a la paz mi decembre, partir au pérou et redescendre par la Bolivie pour finir en Argentine. Si tu as des bons plans à me filer sur ces pays, je suis preneuse.
A bientot.
Delphine
hola Del,
Désolé pour la réponse tardive, Panne d'ordi, et un plus pour l'instant une non réponse, car je ne suis pas chez moi pour qq temps.
As-tu avancer ds tes recherches ?
A bientôt
Dany
A bientôt
Dany
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
Salut,
Ca se prepare tranquillement en fait, nous avons decide de prendre les billets hier car les prix ont augmente depuis dimanche ms o moment venu on s est rendu compte qu il ns fallait le passeport, ce qui n etait pas le cas a ce moment la. Du coup, on doit les prendre ce soir. (Les tps d attente ds les aeroports entre 2 correspondance me paraissent super lgs.) Sinon les chaussures ouvertes et de randonnée st achetées. Nous avons commence à lister et reperer ds plusieurs boutiques le materiel et les fringues necessaire pr tenir les 2 mois sans etre trop chargées. Voila ce q je peux te dire de notre preparation pr ce voyage. J ai vraiment hate d y etre.
Bonne journee.
Ca se prepare tranquillement en fait, nous avons decide de prendre les billets hier car les prix ont augmente depuis dimanche ms o moment venu on s est rendu compte qu il ns fallait le passeport, ce qui n etait pas le cas a ce moment la. Du coup, on doit les prendre ce soir. (Les tps d attente ds les aeroports entre 2 correspondance me paraissent super lgs.) Sinon les chaussures ouvertes et de randonnée st achetées. Nous avons commence à lister et reperer ds plusieurs boutiques le materiel et les fringues necessaire pr tenir les 2 mois sans etre trop chargées. Voila ce q je peux te dire de notre preparation pr ce voyage. J ai vraiment hate d y etre.
Bonne journee.
Hola,
effectivement, les tps d'attente aux escales sont souvent longues. Entre 6 et 10 h, c'est ce que ns avions à chacun des $ voyages pour la Bolivie.
J'aurai pu avoir moins long en passant par les US, mais c'était toujours plus cher.
Et qq centaines d'€ en moins ca compte.
Bon préparatifs et à bientôt
Bon préparatifs et à bientôt
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
Le billet le moins cher q l on ait trouve fait 932 euros sans compter l assurance la résa... Et nous passons par miami a l aller et dallas pr le retour.
En gros cela revient a presque 1000 euros, à cela va se rajouter le billet de train pour monter à paris et d autres frais non comptabiliser. Est ce un prix raisonnable pour un multi destination paris la paz puis le retour buenos aires paris?
Ma pot se demandait si en septembre les prix n allaient pas baisser, moi je crains plus l inverse car nous souhaitons partir du 11 dec au 5 fev et c est la saison d ete la bas. Qu en penses tu?
Salut Del,
Je ne pense pas que les prix vont varier d'ici septembre:
En ce qui me concerne, je n'aurai jamais envisager faire du tourisme à cette période, l´été étant traditionnellement aussi la saison des pluies,
Du moins pour la Bolivie, la plaine amazonienne, le Pérou et le Nord Chili et Nord Argentine,
Pas possible de faire des sommets, la neige risque d'être très fraiche ou alors elle tombe,
probablement pas possible de visiter le Sud Lipez, car Bcp de piste envahies par la boue, et le Salar d'Uyuni très inondé.
Bcp de pistes (qui englobe la majorité des moyens de déplacement) risquent fortement d`être impraticables.
ceci dit, les exceptions climatiques existent et je te souhaite que cet hivers sera sec là-bas, mais je ne le souhaite pas pour les paysans de l'altiplano, la pluie leur étant indispensable. Pas de pluie, pas de patates, pas de quinoa etc.
Désolé si je te gâche le plaisirs mais .......
Le risque de fièvre jaune, palu, dengue est aussi plus important, les moustiques ayant bien plus d'opportunité de se développer.
Y A-T-IL UN FORUM-VOYAGEUR QUI CONNAIS MIEUX LES SITUATIONS CLIMATIQUES LOCALES ? Merci d'aider Del39 au max.
Juste une reflection : Prendre l'avion à Madrid plutôt que Paris ??? Mais étant de l'Est, je ne sais pas car je suis plutôt près de Francfort. C'est Bcp plus confortable pour moi de prendre le départ en Allemagne, d'autant plus que "lufthansa" dessert très bien Strasbourg.
A bientôt Dany
Y A-T-IL UN FORUM-VOYAGEUR QUI CONNAIS MIEUX LES SITUATIONS CLIMATIQUES LOCALES ? Merci d'aider Del39 au max.
Juste une reflection : Prendre l'avion à Madrid plutôt que Paris ??? Mais étant de l'Est, je ne sais pas car je suis plutôt près de Francfort. C'est Bcp plus confortable pour moi de prendre le départ en Allemagne, d'autant plus que "lufthansa" dessert très bien Strasbourg.
A bientôt Dany
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
Merci pour cette réponse franche.
Et dire que nous avons choisi cette date car les températures st plus élevées et q c est l été la-bas. Dans ce q nous avions regardé sur les jours de pluie / mois, cela ne nous a pas semblé énorme sauf pour la bolivie.
Il y avait bcp plus de jours d ensoleillement en argentine et au perou à cette période.
Bon ben on a tt faux, on gèrera en achetant des imperméables et en prévoyant les fringues adaptées.
A plus j espere pr de nvelles infos.
Del
Bon ben on a tt faux, on gèrera en achetant des imperméables et en prévoyant les fringues adaptées.
A plus j espere pr de nvelles infos.
Del
Del,
Je ne connais pas bien le Climat Argentin, mais il faut savoir que ds tout le bassin amazonien il va faire chaud et humide +++ Le climat Sud argentin sera peut-être certainement plus sec... mais il faut te renseigner davantage auprès de personnes ayant voyagé a cette période de l'année.
Il fera peut-être un peu plus sec sur le Nord de l'altiplano Péruvien, le Nord Pérou étant aussi le plus intéressant au niveau culturel et contact avec la population car Bcp moins touristique.
Je te propose de lancer une discution sur ce forum avec comme thème : quel tps fait-il en argentine - et au Pérou de déc. à février ...
(c'est mieux de fait 2 discutions, une pour chaque pays).
Jái passé au sud du pérou il y a qq mois, et les prix sont exhorbitants, hyper "touristisé", et je me sentais transformé en vache à lait.
Selon des personnes que j'ai rencontrées, la mentalité du nord est toute autre.
A +
Dany
A +
Dany
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
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I’ve already visited quite a few countries across several continents, but I’m pretty new to Asia.
I’m planning a trip to Thailand in October or November, and I wanted to check about health precautions: malaria treatment, vaccinations (hepatitis A or others...). I’ll mostly be in the northern region, around Chiang Mai, where I’ll spend a lot of time in nature and the mountains. Then I’ll head south to Phuket or Krabi and visit Khao Sok National Park. I’ll finish up in Bangkok, with a likely detour to Kanchanaburi.
From what I understand, for a stay of less than 60 days, I don’t need a visa (I’m a French national)? I just need to fill out the TDAC form 3 to 5 days before arrival?
Thanks for your advice! Fred
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone is heading to Cuba soon and could bring me some over-the-counter Sildenafil (viagra) tablets—available at Varadero Airport, among other places.
I live in the Quebec City area. Thanks
I live in the Quebec City area. Thanks
Hi there! So, I'm hesitating about taking a long trip. I'd like to go away for 2 to 3 months and travel across several continents. I’d love some advice. I often have unexplained allergies and need to follow a daily treatment for my diabetes (insulin). I think I can get authorization from my doctor to travel for 6 months with the treatment—is that correct? After those 6 months, is it possible (instead of bothering a relative to send the medication) to see a foreign doctor to get another 6-month travel authorization? How does it work at the airport? Do I need just one medication transport authorization, or do I have to request a new one in each country (once the treatment runs out) for both the flight and a DCI? Also, travel insurance doesn’t cover chronic illnesses, so will I have to pay for foreign consultations out of pocket? I’m not sure if I explained myself clearly. Oh, and just to repeat—travel insurance doesn’t cover chronic illnesses, so foreign consultations will be at my own expense? Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi everyone.
After years of traveling to the USA without any medical insurance subscriptions—and luckily never having any major health issues (though I did get a scorpion sting buried in the sand at CBSouth, 😇)—life has caught up with us, and we’re now being forced into "wisdom" and leaving our carefree days behind.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!