Mon francaise est scolastique donc...je suis Italienne de Verona..
Pouvez me donner quelque information sur la piste que de Erfoud-Rissani-taouz...... va a Zagora????
depart le Matin de Erfoud...la soir on doit etre all'Hotel a Zagora...
Il y a la piste Taouz Oun Jrane tizi tafilatet ....il est bonne?? combien de temp?
Il y a la piste Alnif Oum jrane tizi tafilatet...Zagora.....il est bonne?? combien de temp?
Il y a la piste qui arrive a tagounite...
quell'est la plu belle???
Nous somme 3 fammile 15 personnes...avec 5 garcon de 15/17 ans
3 Toyota Land cruiser avec chaffeur marocaine
Noun n'avon pas jamais fait tour avec 4x4
Nous avons pense ce voyage pur le garsons pour faire un chose avec un peu d'avventure pour leur.
Notre programme
Marrakech-teloulet(piste)-Ait bennadou-Kelaa Mgouna
Kelaa Mgouna piste des roses tinerhir-gorge todra-Erfoud
Erfoud -Zagora(deja fait sur la route normal Alnif-tazzarine nekob...)
Zagora-Marrakech
merci pour votre conseil, cordielment
Maurizio
😉bonjour il ya la route d erfoud jusqua touz c goudrouner c bien et apret vous contunier ver ouzina piste sidi ali toujour piste jusqua zagora .c le trager de la plut par des rally comme le paris dakar
Bonjour, vos premiers trajets sont trop longs.
Vous devriez faire Marrakech - Aït Ben Haddou
Aït Ben Haddou - Dades (ou Todgha, cela dépend si vous voulez faire de la piste avant les gorges du Dades)
Erfoud Zagora par la piste est aussi beaucoup trop long. Nous avons déjà besoin d'une journée entière pour faire Merzouga - Tazzarine par la piste.
La question plus juste est...
je veut faire a le garcon un experience de 2/3 heure de piste le jour de tranfert de Rissani a Zagora.. je connais seulement la roure normal il peut etre Alnif Oum Jrane Tazzarine il peut etre Tazarine tizi tafilatet Zagora conseillées me la piste avec les paysages et les scènarios dans cette zone plus beaux des durée de 2/3 heures
a la soir on doit etre a Zagora
cordielment
maurizio
une information
je vue un message de Mamadoo qui disait que la piste Taouz-Zagora on peut le faire ..sans souci......
exeterà....maintenat il n'y a plu le message???parsque??
Il a dit d'etre de Boumalne..e a Boumalne je voulait demander la pista qui arrive a gorge du todra est encore cassè???
Merci
Maurizio-Italy
La piste que tu veux faire "Erfoud-Rissani-taouz...... va a Zagora????" en une journéee c'est pas possible!!! il y a du sable et tout, moyenne 15 km /h, il te faut 2 jours (350 KM), mais avec 3 Toyota Land cruiser et chauffeur marocain pas de problème, acheter imperativement le guide gANDINI des pistes
Pour ce qui est de la piste gorge du dades -todra par mesnir -tamtatouch au primtemps cela passait, aujourd'hui il a eu beaucoup d'eau et je ne suis pas sur que cela passe, sinon faire le tour par agoudal (1 journée)
Bonjour,
les deux pistes sont faisables sans souci !!!!
la piste qui demarre de merzouga, fait 240 kms en passant par la route goudronnée jusq'àu Taouz après c'est la piste qui commence et qui passe dans des endroits magnifiques, après Taouz vous passerez à côté de l'Oasis Jdaid, les dunes d'Ouzina traversée de l'Oued Rriss ( oued asséché, saur en cas de fortes pluies ) le village de Tafraoute, le lac Asséché l'Maider, l'Oasis Oumjran, Tismoumine, l'Oasis de Tismomine, l'Oasis de Imi-n-osif, Tizi-n-tfilalt et vous êtes à Zagora, faisable dans la journée sans probléme avec des chauffeurs marocains en plus, il faut leur faire confiance car ils connaissent très bien les pistes.
la 2 éme piste qui demarre à 24 km après Alnif, elle rejoint la 1er à Oumjrane en passant par quelques Oasis, Ihandar ...
évitez la piste qui va à tagounite, trop longue !!!
évitez la piste qui va des gorges de dadés aux gorges du toudra, souvent cassée par la pluie, les chauffeurs le savent, sans souci .
bon voyage au Maroc
loulou
1 possibilitè
Taouz après c'est la piste qui commence et qui passe dans des endroits magnifiques, après Taouz vous passerez à côté de l'Oasis Jdaid, les dunes d'Ouzina traversée de l'Oued Rriss ( oued asséché, saur en cas de fortes pluies ) le village de Tafraoute, le lac Asséché l'Maider, l'Oasis Oumjran apre riprendre la route normal
a alnif o Tazzarine
2possibilitè
Route normal jusqu'a a Tazzarine a Tazzarine aller a Oum Jrane -Tizi Tafilatet Zagora pour la piste.
3 possibilitè
Route normal avant de Tazzarine a Ait Saadane prendre la piste aller El Fecta Oum Jrane e retourner a Tazzarine
bonjour,
vous avez aussi la piste a partir de Tazarine par tizi-n tfilalt, environ 2h30à 3h de piste pour Zagora .
la piste d'Ait Sâadane, c'est la même que j'ai cité avant, celle qu'on peut prendre à 24 km après alnif, maintenant on peut countinuer par la route (nouvelle route goudronnée depuis 2ans et demi) jusqu'à Ait saâdane puis on continue jusqu'à oumjrane par ihandar, elfecht.
à bientôt
loulou
La piste de Taouz est superbe, mais difficile, et il faut une bonne journée pour la faire.
Les autres options sont plus "simples", moins fatigante. Donc ça dépend surtout de votre expérience en matière de hors piste
Pour la piste Dades-Todgha elle a été très abîmée à l'automne, elle est "passable" mais cela dépend des conditions météo.
A voir au dernier moment... comme pour toute piste en fait ;)
je l'ai faite il y a 2 ans, ok c'est pas 350 mais 250 KM (excusez moi), mais je suis d'accord avec mezgarne, il faut 2 jours, (a moins de se lever à 4 heure du matin et d'arriver à 20 h ), et de la faire sans jamais prendre le temps de s'arreter, de flaner, de discuter ... bref de pas faire le DAKAR
Je compris que le morceau plus interessanre de la piste taouz Zagora est de (Taouz a Oum Jrane 5 h.)
Quelqun dit que pour la faire besoin de 2 jour quelquen dit 7, 30 h peut faire le meme jour
Nous le matin allons a Erg Chebbi e vers 8/8.30 on va a Taouz donc nous sommes a Taouz a 9.00h
Alor 3 possibilitè 1)Prendre la piste e aller seulement a Oum Jrane et apres aller a Tazzarine o Nekob e prendre la route plu vitte pour Zagora 2) Prendre la piste de Taouz pour 2/3h e avant de arriver a Oum Jrane prendre un 'autre piste s'il y a pour Alnif o Tazzarine e donc faire seulement hors d'oeuvre du desert 3) 9.00 a Taouz prendre la piste vers oum Jrane pou 1, 30h et apres retourner a taouz et avec la route normal aller a zagoraque vous feriez???
merci pour votre conseil
cordielment
maurizio
Salut,
Pour la piste Erfoud-Zagora la plupart des baroudeurs prennent celle de Taouz c'est très jolie il ya pas mal de paysage à voir mais ça va prendre plus de 3 heures pour arriver à zagora de coté de tizi n'tfilalet ou de coté sud de tagounite .
Bon courage 🙂
****ça va prendre plus de 3 heures pour arriver à zagora ****
le vrai renseignement "beldi" !!!
je crains qu'il ne faille plutot compter sur une grosse journée pour Erfoud, Taouz, fin du goudron, oum jran, Zagora !!
En tout cas c'est ce que j'avais mis depuis Merzouga, plus court !
D'accord, je me traine !
Merci pour votre réponses... quelqu'un dit que la piste Taoz/Oumjrane est superbe, autres disent belle, autres jolie, voulais seulement parce qu'elle est la première tourne avec des chauffeurs marocains farer goûter à mes amis 2/5 des heures désert d'eventuellement dans futur faire un voyage avec les bivacchi dans le désert.
est difficile maintenant savoir quelle est mieu faire. choisir la piste est comme lorsque on parle de femmes certains dit belle autres non etc etc... mercie a tous Maurizio
Je suis d'accord avec Raoulx sur ce point, 2 jours pour en profiter, sinon couper pour rejoindre tazarinne, de toute manière cela dépends a quellle vitessse tu avances et à midi tu regarde où tu es, et la tu prends ta décision
A+
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