Je suis une adepte de cette plateforme lorsque je programme mes voyages.
Seulement voila, j'ai prévu un roadtrip aux USA de 3 mois, ainsi qu'un petit séjour de quelques semaines (2-3 semaines) au Canada et je ne trouve pas une réponse précise à une question précise.
Pour ce faire nous aurions pris un vol aller-retour jusqu'à NY car moins cher que le Canada.
Ma question est : Avec l'ESTA (durée 3 mois) peut-on atterrir à NY repartir le même jour sans sortir de l'aéroport pour un vol interne vers le Canada, y rester 15j-3semaines et revenir faire notre boucle des USA durant 3 mois ?
(Soit est-ce que l'ESTA est fractionable? est-ce qu'il sera en attente le temps que je suis au Canada et sera donc toujours valable 90j à ma 2nd arrivée aux USA)
Sinon je serais dans l'obligation de prendre un visa (mais couteux, donc si je pouvais m'en passer ce serait bien).
2ème question au passage : Pensez-vous qu'étant étudiante en France sans revenus (mais toute ma famille), j'ai des chances qu'on m'accorde le Visa B2.
Je suis une adepte de cette plateforme lorsque je programme mes voyages.
Seulement voila, j'ai prévu un roadtrip aux USA de 3 mois, ainsi qu'un petit séjour de quelques semaines (2-3 semaines) au Canada et je ne trouve pas une réponse précise à une question précise.
Pour ce faire nous aurions pris un vol aller-retour jusqu'à NY car moins cher que le Canada.
Ma question est : Avec l'ESTA (durée 3 mois) peut-on atterrir à NY repartir le même jour sans sortir de l'aéroport pour un vol interne vers le Canada, y rester 15j-3semaines et revenir faire notre boucle des USA durant 3 mois ?
(Soit est-ce que l'ESTA est fractionable? est-ce qu'il sera en attente le temps que je suis au Canada et sera donc toujours valable 90j à ma 2nd arrivée aux USA)
A suivre le forum, mon avis est non , ça ne se fait pas .😕
Sinon je serais dans l'obligation de prendre un visa (mais couteux, donc si je pouvais m'en passer ce serait bien).
2ème question au passage : Pensez-vous qu'étant étudiante en France sans revenus (mais toute ma famille), j'ai des chances qu'on m'accorde le Visa B2.
Un grand merci à tous par avance pour votre aide!
Elisabeth
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Trips to Canada, Mexico, or nearby Islands
If you are admitted to the United States under the VWP, you may take a short trip to Canada, Mexico, or a nearby island and generally be readmitted to the United States under the VWP for the remainder of the original 90 days granted upon your initial arrival in the United States. Therefore, the length of time of your total stay, including the short trip, must be 90 days or less. See the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) website.
Quant au visa B2 seul l'officier consulaire sera à même de décider. On ne peut pas prévoir ou supposer... A vous de leur fournir les pièces demandées
Gather Required Documentation
Gather and prepare the following required documents before your visa interview:Passport valid for travel to the United States - Your passport must be valid for at least six months beyond your period of stay in the United States, unless exempt by country-specific agreements (PDF - 57 KB). If more than one person is included in your passport, each person who needs a visa must submit a separate application.Nonimmigrant Visa Application, Form DS-160 confirmation pageApplication fee payment receipt, if you are required to pay before your interview.Photo – You will upload your photo while completing the online Form DS-160. If the photo upload fails, you must bring one printed photo in the format explained in the Photograph Requirements.Additional Documentation May Be Required
Review the instructions for how to apply for a visa on the website of theembassy or consulate where you will apply. Additional documents may be requested to establish if you are qualified. For example, additional requested documents may include evidence of:The purpose of your trip;Your intent to depart the United States after your trip; and/orYour ability to pay all costs of the trip. Evidence of your employment and/or your family ties may be sufficient to show the purpose of your trip and your intent to return to your home country. If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all costs for your trip.
Note: Visa applicants must qualify on the basis of the applicant's residence and ties abroad, rather than assurances from U.S. family and friends. A letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support is not needed to apply for a nonimmigrant tourist visa. If you do choose to bring a letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support to your interview, please remember that it is not one of the factors that we use in determining whether to issue or deny a nonimmigrant tourist visa.
Une des solution serait donc de commencer votre trip au Canada avant les USA.
Bon voyage
"Le plus beau voyage c'est celui que l'on a pas encore fait" (Loick Peyron)
Un jour j'irais en Théorie ........parce qu'en Théorie tout va bien
Bonjour
Comme dit plus haut, la durée de sejour au CANADA sera deduite des 90 jours admis aux USA ; (ATTENTION, ce n'est pas 3 mois, mais 90 jours...).
Il ne faut pas essayer de tricher la dessus. N'oubliez pas que l'immigration US est informée en temps reel de toutes les infos sur les voyageurs entrant et sortant aux USA, et donc que, si votre billet de retour depassait les 90 jours, vs pourriez etre refoulés dès JFK, et ensuite même à votre reéntrée aux USA.
Je ne sais pas quelle est la difference de prix de billet, mais perso, vu tous les frais que vs couterait un visa B2 (n'oubliez pas tous les frais annexes : transport pour se rendre à PARIS), economiquement parlant, je vs conseillerais moi aussi de faire un sejour au Canada avant ou apres votre sejour aux USA (prenez un billet multidestination, ca ne coute pas plus cher)
Enfin, je ne me prononcerais pas sur les chances d'avoir ou non le B2, mais je vs signale que si ce dernier vs etait refusé, vs n'auriez plus le droit de beneficier de l'ESTA.
Je rajouterai que si la compagnie aérienne fait son boulot correctement, vous n'embarquerez pas au départ de la France (ou tout autre pays européen) avec un billet retour à plus de 90 jours, sans visa.
Visitez les Etats Unis pendant 90 jours et gardez le Canada pour un autre voyage.
Ou 70 jours aux Etats Unis + 20 jours au Canada = 90 jours.
Fais une recherche sur le forum, tu trouveras plusieurs discussions récentes de demandes de Visa B2 refusées. Et impossible d'obtenir l'ESTA après un refus de visa.
Profitez de vos 90 jours avec l'ESTA et tout ce que vous n'aurez pas eu le temps de visiter, ce sera pour un autre voyage.
Un grand merci à tous pour vos réponses. J'ai donc confirmation du doute que j'avais.
Je vais en effet me contenter de l'ESTA.
J'ai encore 2 petites questions suite à ça :
- Que veut dire un vol multidestination? (ça peut paraitre bête comme question, mais je n'ai jamais entendu ce terme)
- Suite à ça, pensez vous qu'il est possible que j'atterrisse au Canada, y passe 2-3 semaines, puis aille aux USA (par avion ou voiture) pour passer mes 90 jours autorisés puis redécolle des USA vers la France. Je n'aurais donc pas mon billet d'avion A-R avec la même ville.
==> Je demande ça car dès avril 2015, le Canada va mettre en place l'AVE (similaire à l'ESTA) et le même problème se posera. Je ne pourrais pas atterrir au Canada et repartir du Canada en dépassant 90jours.
Le vol multidestination est un vol ou les villes de depart et de retour ne sont pas les mêmes.
Par exemple un aller PARIS->NYC et un retour MONTREAL ->PARIS
Quand vs reservez un billet d'avion, vs avez 3 possibiltés de vol : l'aller simple, l'aller-retour, et le multidestination.
L'interet du systeme est que ca vs permet d'avoir des tarifs "normaux". En effet, si on reserve un aller simple sur un billet et un retour sur un autre, on atteint des tarifs prohibitifs. (Reglementation IATA oblige)
Pour votre projet CANADA->USA. Aucun probleme particulier. Beaucoup de gens font cà.
Attention cependant, vs ne pourrez pas utiliser unESTA si vs passez la frontiere CANADA->USA par voie terreste. Il vs faudra alors remplir un formulaire à la frontiere, le I94, payer 6$, et subir un "interrogatoire" de la part des agents de l'immigration US. (ils regarderaient surtout la date de votre retour vers la FRANCE)
Pour le systeme AVE, c'est à ma connaissance un systeme de pré renseignement sur les gens arrivant au CANADA. Ca ne change pas la durée du sejour touristique qui reste(rait) tjrs fixé à 6mois.
PS : Mais non, vs n'etes pas bete. D'ailleurs vs etes brune (Votre copain par contre...)😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
Pour votre projet CANADA->USA. Aucun probleme particulier. Beaucoup de gens font cà.
Attention cependant, vs ne pourrez pas utiliser unESTA si vs passez la frontiere CANADA->USA par voie terreste. Il vs faudra alors remplir un formulaire à la frontiere, le I94, payer 6$, et subir un "interrogatoire" de la part des agents de l'immigration US. (ils regarderaient surtout la date de votre retour vers la FRANCE)
P )😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
Cette façon de faire semble n'est plus simple ? Pas d'ESTA a demander avant le départ et seulement $6 a payer à la frontière avec un petit tête à tête avec les agents frontalier 😏
De toute façon même avec l'ESTA il n'y a pas de garantie d'entrer je crois .
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
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Hi,
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to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
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I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
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Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
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Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
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Hi there,
I’m a French citizen living in Switzerland, and I set up an RV LLC in Montana, USA. Through that, I was able to register 3 vehicles (an RV, a Jeep, and a Harley) with Montana plates.
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Can anyone give me some advice?
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
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I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
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I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia.
For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
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Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
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Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
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I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
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Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
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I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay.
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do I need to submit a new TDAC application?
Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
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My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
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Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
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