Rencontrez vous le même problème? Connaissez vous d'autres site de ce genre?
Site de calcul d'itinéraire à vélo?
by Opai
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'avais pour habitude de créer des itinéraire (carte, distance, profil) sur bikely.com
Mais depuis plusieurs semaine, ce site ne fonctionne plus.
Rencontrez vous le même problème? Connaissez vous d'autres site de ce genre?
Rencontrez vous le même problème? Connaissez vous d'autres site de ce genre?
Salut!
On pourrait faire de ce fil une liste des sites pour tracer, non??? Alors le mien récemment découvert, c'est
http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx
Il y a même une option qui permet d'aller voir sur Google Earth ce que ça donne en 3D, la balade...
On pourrait faire de ce fil une liste des sites pour tracer, non??? Alors le mien récemment découvert, c'est
http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx
Il y a même une option qui permet d'aller voir sur Google Earth ce que ça donne en 3D, la balade...
Bonjour,
Bonne idée que de développer ce fil, je viens de changer de micro et cherche un produit simple, (j'avais sur l'autre une vieille version d'autoroute express), j'essaie Bike route toaster et open runner, qui me paraissent complexes à utiliser, et avec lesquels je n'arrive pas à sauvegarder mes circuits mais qui présentent des possibilités intéressantes comme le calcul de la dénivellation.
Je suis donc preneur d'infos sur ce thème.
Bon week end à tous roulez bien.
Bonne idée que de développer ce fil, je viens de changer de micro et cherche un produit simple, (j'avais sur l'autre une vieille version d'autoroute express), j'essaie Bike route toaster et open runner, qui me paraissent complexes à utiliser, et avec lesquels je n'arrive pas à sauvegarder mes circuits mais qui présentent des possibilités intéressantes comme le calcul de la dénivellation.
Je suis donc preneur d'infos sur ce thème.
Bon week end à tous roulez bien.
Hello la compagnie,
Je peux vous proposer un site qui a 2 ans d'existence :
http://www.routeyou.com/page/view/210/module-de-planification-ditinraires-route-planner.fr.
on a le choix entre piéton / vélo, rapide, court, joli ; mode plan, relief ou satellite, etc...
gratuit, il suffit de s'inscrire ; on arrive très vite à bien l'utiliser.
J'ai programmé mon futur voyage de septembre d'Auxerre à Oloron sainte Marie par ce site.
Je suis également preneur de tout autre site.
A bientôt
François
apprenons à vivre ensemble comme des Frères ou nous mourrons ensemble comme des idiots.
Martin Luther King
Mes deux applis web favorites :
bikemap.net
gpsies.org
Sur ordinateur, j'utilise TrailRunner (Mac uniquement), qui est un petit logiciel donationware parfait.
Sur ordinateur, j'utilise TrailRunner (Mac uniquement), qui est un petit logiciel donationware parfait.
E' pericoloso sporgersi !
http://www.madsnail.net/
Bonjour,
Pour le Cyclo sur route, gpsies.com est très pratique avec sa fonction "follow road". Pour aller plus sur les chemins, tracer ses randos sur fonds de carte IGN avec ce petit bijou chargeable ici http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/teepy_GpxTraceNet.zip Sinon, allez voir la discussion ici http://www.tracegps.com/forum/index.php/topic, 382.0.html
Bonne navigation !!
Pour le Cyclo sur route, gpsies.com est très pratique avec sa fonction "follow road". Pour aller plus sur les chemins, tracer ses randos sur fonds de carte IGN avec ce petit bijou chargeable ici http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/teepy_GpxTraceNet.zip Sinon, allez voir la discussion ici http://www.tracegps.com/forum/index.php/topic, 382.0.html
Bonne navigation !!
TraceGps.com Laissez vous guider !
le guide michelin fait très l affaire en prenant l option vélo. Seul défaut il ne calcule pas plus de 200 km mais si on fait notre route étape par étape pas de probleme. De plus très simple d utilisation. Il y a aussi Gmap pedometer que j utilise et il enregistre les circuits. Sauf que je n utilise pas l option vélo mais plutot l option marcheur. L'option vélo il me donne les routes nationales et parfois les autoroutes. C est interdit. L'option marcheur je n ai que des routes secondaires, les blanches.
Bonjour à tous,
Le guide michelin est très bien pour la feuille de route, mais dans le choix de l'itinéraire "vélo" c'est pas pareil, par moment il choisit des passages peu pratiques de vréritables murs à monter ou chemin déteriorés.
Pour les autres sites j'ai de la peine pour sauvegarder les circuits, et souvent les feuilles de routes sont assez inexploitables.
Je souhaite un "truc"avec lequel je puisse poser mes points où je veux, avoir une feuille de route de la qualité de michelin et sauvegarder et éditer facilement.
Continuons à chercher !
Le guide michelin est très bien pour la feuille de route, mais dans le choix de l'itinéraire "vélo" c'est pas pareil, par moment il choisit des passages peu pratiques de vréritables murs à monter ou chemin déteriorés.
Pour les autres sites j'ai de la peine pour sauvegarder les circuits, et souvent les feuilles de routes sont assez inexploitables.
Je souhaite un "truc"avec lequel je puisse poser mes points où je veux, avoir une feuille de route de la qualité de michelin et sauvegarder et éditer facilement.
Continuons à chercher !
1 Méthode 1
j'utilise des cartes Michelin départements au 1/150 000 ou IGN promenade 1/100 000 j'achète des guides du routard je trace grossièrement ma route
chaque matin ou la veille au soir je repère la route à prendre pour la journée
2. Méthode 2
l'hiver j'aime bien rêver alors je me prépare des routes
j'utilise en conjugaison :
google maps pour tracer automatiquement ma route en mode piéton viamichelin pour tracer la même route en mode vélo et pour repérer les routes à fort traffic openrunner en mode calcul automatique piéton pour mesurer la difficulté dur terrain grace au profil
j'ai donc 3 onglets ouverts
sur google maps je demande de calculer un itinéraire puis sur viamichelin je demande de calculer le même itinéraire puis je repère sur viamichelin les routes à fort traffic en rouge puis sur google maps je modifie l'itinéraire en tirant dessus pour les portions qui empruntent une route à fort traffic afin de passer sur des routes à faible traffic puis sur openrunner je demande la vue en relief et le profil pour certaine portions qui me semble difficile puis si je vois que c'est trop difficile alors sur google maps je modifie l'itinéraire en tirant dessus pour les portions qui empruntent une route à pente difficile afin de passer sur des routes à faible pente. à cette occasion les portions difficiles sont enregistrées sur openrunner puis sur google maps j'enregistre dans un seul fichier texte le lien google maps et la séquence html permettant d'intégrer la carte dans une page web afin de retrouver plus tard la carte ggolge maps et la mettre éventuellement dans une page html j'enregistre le kml de la carte pour apprécier la ballade sous Google Earth mais aussi aprécier la difficulté du terrain. pour cela je copie le lien de la carte dans le champ d'adresse d'un nouvel onglet, j'ajoute à la fin du lien &output=kml puis je tape "entrée" l'explorateur me demande ce que je veux faire du kml généré alors je l'enregistre
en résumé mon rêve :
un outil qui utilise : le fond de carte Michelin ou IGN pour pour l'indication du traffic, le chemin de fer avec les gares ouvertes (en activité) les indications Michelin pour le tourisme la facilité de google maps pour tracer un itinéraire les indications de voyage sncf pour me donner les horaires de trains pour me rendre au début du parcours et partir de la fin du parcours
Il suffirait que openrunner permette de tirer les routes comme sur google maps pour avoir l'outil presque idéal pour les randonneurs touristes
remarque : sur google maps il ne faut pas dépasser la centaine de point de tirage ce qui donne un itinéraire de 200 km à ne pas dépasser. au-delà le moteur de calcul commence à planter la route ne s'affiche plus etc., vous riquez de perdre le travail en cours. donc je travail sur des portions de 200 km. ce qui tombe bien car viamichelin limite à 200 km l'itinéraire vélo viamichelin donne un itinéraire vélo souvent en partie différent de l'intinéraire piéton de google maps
j'utilise des cartes Michelin départements au 1/150 000 ou IGN promenade 1/100 000 j'achète des guides du routard je trace grossièrement ma route
chaque matin ou la veille au soir je repère la route à prendre pour la journée
2. Méthode 2
l'hiver j'aime bien rêver alors je me prépare des routes
j'utilise en conjugaison :
google maps pour tracer automatiquement ma route en mode piéton viamichelin pour tracer la même route en mode vélo et pour repérer les routes à fort traffic openrunner en mode calcul automatique piéton pour mesurer la difficulté dur terrain grace au profil
j'ai donc 3 onglets ouverts
sur google maps je demande de calculer un itinéraire puis sur viamichelin je demande de calculer le même itinéraire puis je repère sur viamichelin les routes à fort traffic en rouge puis sur google maps je modifie l'itinéraire en tirant dessus pour les portions qui empruntent une route à fort traffic afin de passer sur des routes à faible traffic puis sur openrunner je demande la vue en relief et le profil pour certaine portions qui me semble difficile puis si je vois que c'est trop difficile alors sur google maps je modifie l'itinéraire en tirant dessus pour les portions qui empruntent une route à pente difficile afin de passer sur des routes à faible pente. à cette occasion les portions difficiles sont enregistrées sur openrunner puis sur google maps j'enregistre dans un seul fichier texte le lien google maps et la séquence html permettant d'intégrer la carte dans une page web afin de retrouver plus tard la carte ggolge maps et la mettre éventuellement dans une page html j'enregistre le kml de la carte pour apprécier la ballade sous Google Earth mais aussi aprécier la difficulté du terrain. pour cela je copie le lien de la carte dans le champ d'adresse d'un nouvel onglet, j'ajoute à la fin du lien &output=kml puis je tape "entrée" l'explorateur me demande ce que je veux faire du kml généré alors je l'enregistre
en résumé mon rêve :
un outil qui utilise : le fond de carte Michelin ou IGN pour pour l'indication du traffic, le chemin de fer avec les gares ouvertes (en activité) les indications Michelin pour le tourisme la facilité de google maps pour tracer un itinéraire les indications de voyage sncf pour me donner les horaires de trains pour me rendre au début du parcours et partir de la fin du parcours
Il suffirait que openrunner permette de tirer les routes comme sur google maps pour avoir l'outil presque idéal pour les randonneurs touristes
remarque : sur google maps il ne faut pas dépasser la centaine de point de tirage ce qui donne un itinéraire de 200 km à ne pas dépasser. au-delà le moteur de calcul commence à planter la route ne s'affiche plus etc., vous riquez de perdre le travail en cours. donc je travail sur des portions de 200 km. ce qui tombe bien car viamichelin limite à 200 km l'itinéraire vélo viamichelin donne un itinéraire vélo souvent en partie différent de l'intinéraire piéton de google maps
Bonjour,
je viens de tester www.routeyou.com, ça a l'air vraiment sympa ! Je crois que je vais y transférer toutes mes randos...
je viens de tester www.routeyou.com, ça a l'air vraiment sympa ! Je crois que je vais y transférer toutes mes randos...
je viens de tester youroute
c'est super il propose un mode vélo par les routes "plus jolie" MAIS le calcul automatique est limité à 25 km !
c'est vraiment pas adapté à la randonnée
de plus il y a un profil mais aucune indication de la mesure de la pente
dommage
sur openrunner distance limite : 1200 km quantité de points intermédiaire 150 point intermédiaires mode piéton, pas de mode cycliste mais ça n'est pas gênant
de plus je viens de voir qu'on peut modifier un itinéraire calculé à condition d'avoir d'abord inséré 1 ou 2 point avant de calculer l'itinéraire
c'est super il propose un mode vélo par les routes "plus jolie" MAIS le calcul automatique est limité à 25 km !
c'est vraiment pas adapté à la randonnée
de plus il y a un profil mais aucune indication de la mesure de la pente
dommage
sur openrunner distance limite : 1200 km quantité de points intermédiaire 150 point intermédiaires mode piéton, pas de mode cycliste mais ça n'est pas gênant
de plus je viens de voir qu'on peut modifier un itinéraire calculé à condition d'avoir d'abord inséré 1 ou 2 point avant de calculer l'itinéraire
Bonjour à tous,
Le guide michelin est très bien pour la feuille de route, mais dans le choix de l'itinéraire "vélo" c'est pas pareil, par moment il choisit des passages peu pratiques de vréritables murs à monter ou chemin déteriorés.
Pour les autres sites j'ai de la peine pour sauvegarder les circuits, et souvent les feuilles de routes sont assez inexploitables.
Je souhaite un "truc"avec lequel je puisse poser mes points où je veux, avoir une feuille de route de la qualité de michelin et sauvegarder et éditer facilement.
Gmaps pedometer donne le dénivellé alors vs êtes en mesure de savoir exactement ou sont les murs. De plus j utilise aussi un site internet qui s'appelle les cols d europe référé par le club des cents cols. Suffit de chercher l endroit et s il est répertorié vs avez tout plein d informations sur la montée. Google maps avec l option relief comme disait quelqu un précédemment donne une bonne idée. je crois pas qu il y ait de logiciel miracle pour répondre correctement a tous nos besoins. Par contre un ensemble de plusieurs avec les meilleurs caractéristiques de chacun donne une bonne idée lors de nos préparatifs.
Le guide michelin est très bien pour la feuille de route, mais dans le choix de l'itinéraire "vélo" c'est pas pareil, par moment il choisit des passages peu pratiques de vréritables murs à monter ou chemin déteriorés.
Pour les autres sites j'ai de la peine pour sauvegarder les circuits, et souvent les feuilles de routes sont assez inexploitables.
Je souhaite un "truc"avec lequel je puisse poser mes points où je veux, avoir une feuille de route de la qualité de michelin et sauvegarder et éditer facilement.
Gmaps pedometer donne le dénivellé alors vs êtes en mesure de savoir exactement ou sont les murs. De plus j utilise aussi un site internet qui s'appelle les cols d europe référé par le club des cents cols. Suffit de chercher l endroit et s il est répertorié vs avez tout plein d informations sur la montée. Google maps avec l option relief comme disait quelqu un précédemment donne une bonne idée. je crois pas qu il y ait de logiciel miracle pour répondre correctement a tous nos besoins. Par contre un ensemble de plusieurs avec les meilleurs caractéristiques de chacun donne une bonne idée lors de nos préparatifs.
tu as testé openrunner http://www.openrunner.com
il peut faire ce que tu veux :
tu as le choix du fond de carte Google maps ou IGN
tu as le chois de construire manuellement ta route en posant des points avec possibilité de passer en automatique en mode "piéton" automatiquement ta route en donnant 2 points
puis de passer en mode manuel en posant des points intermédiaires pour te dérouter puis de demander un nouveau calcul automatique
le profil calculé n'est pas un simple profil mais est accompagné de la mesure en pourcentage des dénivelés
je n'ai pas testé leur feuille de route en condition réelle
un exemple
http://www.openrunner.com/index.php?id=215244
il peut faire ce que tu veux :
tu as le choix du fond de carte Google maps ou IGN
tu as le chois de construire manuellement ta route en posant des points avec possibilité de passer en automatique en mode "piéton" automatiquement ta route en donnant 2 points
puis de passer en mode manuel en posant des points intermédiaires pour te dérouter puis de demander un nouveau calcul automatique
le profil calculé n'est pas un simple profil mais est accompagné de la mesure en pourcentage des dénivelés
je n'ai pas testé leur feuille de route en condition réelle
un exemple
http://www.openrunner.com/index.php?id=215244
Bonjour
Je viens de générer un parcours sur openrunner mais je n'ai que les indications de directions à suivre Comment afficher le profil et les dénivellés?
Je viens de générer un parcours sur openrunner mais je n'ai que les indications de directions à suivre Comment afficher le profil et les dénivellés?
c'est indiqué dans la "présentation"
<<Pour les modifications, il faut tout d'abord s'authentifier puis charger(ou recharger) son parcours pour faire apparaître le bouton "Enregistrer les modifications". Cliquer sur ce bouton pour sauvegarder vos modifications. Les parcours sauvegardés donnent également accès au profil altimétrique, pas de 100m pour les parcours dont la distance est inférieure à 100km et 200m au delà. Voir l'exemple suivant :>>
<<Pour les modifications, il faut tout d'abord s'authentifier puis charger(ou recharger) son parcours pour faire apparaître le bouton "Enregistrer les modifications". Cliquer sur ce bouton pour sauvegarder vos modifications. Les parcours sauvegardés donnent également accès au profil altimétrique, pas de 100m pour les parcours dont la distance est inférieure à 100km et 200m au delà. Voir l'exemple suivant :>>
Il faut s'enregister gratuitement, sauvegarder le parcours puis aller le rechercher. Une fois qu'il s'affiche il y a la possibilité de voir le denivellé en en demandant la creation.
Rien ne sert d'aller vite, il faut arriver à point.
Du moment que j'avance, je sais où je vais ... . Devant!
j ai trouvé ca:
http://www.opencyclemap.org (avec certains itineraires velo repertoriés, c est a la communauté de partager ses itinéraires)
et aussi:
http://maps.cloudmade.com/# avec choix itineraires velo.
Julien
http://www.opencyclemap.org (avec certains itineraires velo repertoriés, c est a la communauté de partager ses itinéraires)
et aussi:
http://maps.cloudmade.com/# avec choix itineraires velo.
Julien
oui opencyclemap est un projet dérivé du projet www.openstreetmap.org
qui vise à créer une cartographie mondiale libre de droit.
n'hésitez pas à participer par exemple en complétant la cartographie de votre coin.
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I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance