Spectacle sons et lumières de Philae ou Karnak en Égypte?
by Godiva2810
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Nous allons faire une croisière sur le Nil et il y a en option plusieurs son et lumière : Karnak ou Philae. Quel est celui a privilégier ?
Egalement, l'ile de Tobia vaut elle le détour ?
Merci beaucoup pour ces informations.
Bonjour,
cela dépend de ce que l'on aime. celui de Philaé est basé sur la la légende d'osiris et isis alors que celui de karnak est basé sur l'Histoire. Pour ma part, j'adore celui de Philaé.
cela dépend de ce que l'on aime. celui de Philaé est basé sur la la légende d'osiris et isis alors que celui de karnak est basé sur l'Histoire. Pour ma part, j'adore celui de Philaé.
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Y en a qui cherche la petite bête.
je te rappelle que la question est : Quel est le meilleur son et lumière entre karnak et Philaé?
Et pour ce qui cherche la petit bête, définition du dictionnaire Larousse :
Légende : Récit à caractère merveilleux, où les faits historiques sont transformés par l'imaginaire populaire. Histoire déformée et embellie par l'imaginaire.
Mythe : Récit populaire mettant en scène des êtres surhumains et des actions imaginaires, dans lesquels sont transposés des évènements historiques, réels ou souhaités.
Maintenant si il y en qui sont plus intelligent que les dictionnaires....
Et pour ce qui cherche la petit bête, définition du dictionnaire Larousse :
Légende : Récit à caractère merveilleux, où les faits historiques sont transformés par l'imaginaire populaire. Histoire déformée et embellie par l'imaginaire.
Mythe : Récit populaire mettant en scène des êtres surhumains et des actions imaginaires, dans lesquels sont transposés des évènements historiques, réels ou souhaités.
Maintenant si il y en qui sont plus intelligent que les dictionnaires....
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Re,
Y en a qui cherche la petite bête.
Je rectifiais, simplement....🤪
je te rappelle que la question est : Quel est le meilleur son et lumière entre karnak et Philaé?
Et pour ce qui cherche la petit bête, definition du petit Larousse :
Légende : Récit à caractère merveilleux, où les faits historiques sont transformés par l'imaginaire populaire. Histoire déformée et embellie par l'imaginaire.
Mythe : Récit populaire mettant en scène des êtres surhumains et des actions imaginaires, dans lesquels sont transposés des évènements historiques, réels ou souhaités.
Un mythe est fondateur, il est une explication du monde (sans base historique, d'ailleurs, l'idée-même de dissocier faits historiques et imaginaire étant complètement absurde, vide de sens), qui structure une société ; ce que n'est pas une légende.
Mais c'est vrai, je n'y connais rien en son et lumière. Ni à Philaé, ni à Karnak, ni ailleurs.
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Ajout, suite à la modification de votre message...
Maintenant si il y en qui sont plus intelligent que les dictionnaires....
Je n'ai pas cette prétention, et un dictionnaire n'a d'autre vocation que d'expliciter rapidement le sens courant d'un mot. Après, c'est affaire de précision, dans les mots qu'on utilise, qui ne se réduisent pas, loin de là, aux deux lignes du Larousse (qui sont utiles, certes, mais pour un certain usage)...
Tout ça pour ça....😕
Y en a qui cherche la petite bête.
Je rectifiais, simplement....🤪
je te rappelle que la question est : Quel est le meilleur son et lumière entre karnak et Philaé?
Et pour ce qui cherche la petit bête, definition du petit Larousse :
Légende : Récit à caractère merveilleux, où les faits historiques sont transformés par l'imaginaire populaire. Histoire déformée et embellie par l'imaginaire.
Mythe : Récit populaire mettant en scène des êtres surhumains et des actions imaginaires, dans lesquels sont transposés des évènements historiques, réels ou souhaités.
Un mythe est fondateur, il est une explication du monde (sans base historique, d'ailleurs, l'idée-même de dissocier faits historiques et imaginaire étant complètement absurde, vide de sens), qui structure une société ; ce que n'est pas une légende.
Mais c'est vrai, je n'y connais rien en son et lumière. Ni à Philaé, ni à Karnak, ni ailleurs.
- --
Ajout, suite à la modification de votre message...
Maintenant si il y en qui sont plus intelligent que les dictionnaires....
Je n'ai pas cette prétention, et un dictionnaire n'a d'autre vocation que d'expliciter rapidement le sens courant d'un mot. Après, c'est affaire de précision, dans les mots qu'on utilise, qui ne se réduisent pas, loin de là, aux deux lignes du Larousse (qui sont utiles, certes, mais pour un certain usage)...
Tout ça pour ça....😕
😉😉
bonjour Néfertari
Je n'ai pas assisté à celui de Philaé, mais à celui de Karnak, pour ceux qui iront, ne pas oublier de prendre une torche électrique pour se diriger dans le noir, sans se tordre une cheville sur les pavés.
J'ai beaucoup aimé, l'allée des sphinxs, les colonnes, sont magiques sous la lumière.
Ensuite on s'assied dans un stade, et on écoute l'histoire;
J'ai bien aimé.
Ceux qui sont allés à Philaé, ont apprécié aussi.
Difficile de départager.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
bonjour
Merci d'avoir répondu à ma question. Pour l'instant je ne sais pas vers où mon choix par se porter mais je ne manquerai pas de laisser mon impression à mon retour.
Bonsoir
Vous partez à quel moment, nous c'est en mars et vous ?
Vous partez à quel moment, nous c'est en mars et vous ?
Bonjour,
Ayant lu beaucoup de vos messages et votre récit, pouvez vous me donner des infos pour assister au spectacle sons et Lumières de Karnak et prendre le temps de visiter sans tour opérateur, nous sommes cinq adultes donc à 35 euros par personne, si il est facile de le faire par nous mêmes bien mieux pour notre budget et préférable de faire profiter les habitants plutôt que le TO.
Ayant lu beaucoup de vos messages et votre récit, pouvez vous me donner des infos pour assister au spectacle sons et Lumières de Karnak et prendre le temps de visiter sans tour opérateur, nous sommes cinq adultes donc à 35 euros par personne, si il est facile de le faire par nous mêmes bien mieux pour notre budget et préférable de faire profiter les habitants plutôt que le TO.
les momos
C'est facile ! Karnak est tout près de Louxor ( à pied , en calèche , en taxi) et vous prenez vos billets sur place (je ne me souviens plus si on pouvait ou devait les prendre d'avance) mais cela doit être écrit sur un bon guide , style Lonely
Bonjour ,
il suffit de les prendre le soir même ; très facile .
Si vous prenez un taxi au centre , il vous proposera de vous attendre , pour un prix modique . Ce n'est pas nécessaire mais ce ne coôte pas plus cher que de rediscuter le retour avec un autre ( en tout cas , si vous avez choisi le bon taximan au départ ! ) .
Aller à Philae est un peu plus complexe mais en vaut la peine : vous prenez 1 taxi à Assouan , pour l'A R ( à négocier ). je dirais 70 Leg ... . A l'arrivée au bord de l'eau , vous n'aurez que l'embarras du choix pour un petit bâteau à moteur de 10 places . Par personne , 10 Leg ; 100 pour tout le bâteau donc il y a intérêt à vous grouper ; forcément A R .
Le spectacle dure environ 1 h . Tenez compte d'une certaine augmentation des prix depuis 2 ans mais , à 5 , vous serez gagnants . Bon voyage !
Aller à Philae est un peu plus complexe mais en vaut la peine : vous prenez 1 taxi à Assouan , pour l'A R ( à négocier ). je dirais 70 Leg ... . A l'arrivée au bord de l'eau , vous n'aurez que l'embarras du choix pour un petit bâteau à moteur de 10 places . Par personne , 10 Leg ; 100 pour tout le bâteau donc il y a intérêt à vous grouper ; forcément A R .
Le spectacle dure environ 1 h . Tenez compte d'une certaine augmentation des prix depuis 2 ans mais , à 5 , vous serez gagnants . Bon voyage !
Brigitte
Merci pour toutes ces infos très détaillées, je regrette vraiment de ne pas avoir organisé notre voyage par nous mêmes,
mais j'espère revenir l'année prochaine pour avoir le temps de profiter des visites et avoir plus de contacts avec les habitants.
les momos
Bonjour,
Je vois que certain on été plus rapide que moi. En effet c'est très facile, 2 taxis avec qui vous négociez le retour (bien reveler le numéro des taxis pour ne pas se tromper au retour et le lieu) Et prendre le billet a l'entrèe. Si votre guid est sympas, demandez lui de vous commander les taxis.
Je vois que certain on été plus rapide que moi. En effet c'est très facile, 2 taxis avec qui vous négociez le retour (bien reveler le numéro des taxis pour ne pas se tromper au retour et le lieu) Et prendre le billet a l'entrèe. Si votre guid est sympas, demandez lui de vous commander les taxis.
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Coucou !
Quel guide ??? Quant aux taxi et au pilote du bâteau , comme vous le payez au retour , c'est lui qui va vous retrouver ( et sans problème ) , pas vous qui devrez chercher !
Bonne soirée .
Bonne soirée .
Brigitte
Merci à Mirage et à Brigitte, je vais suivre vos conseils
Bonne soirée
Bonne soirée
les momos
Ils font une croisière avec des excursions donc normalement ils auront un guide. Donc si ce dernier est sympas, ils pourront lui demander de commander et voir négocier un taxi, ou le réceptionniste du bateau.
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Bonjour Mirage ,
je ne demanderais justement pas au guide : il a tout intérêt à ce que les gens prennent les excursions organisées qu'il est supposé vendre !
Même s'il est 'sympa ' , mes amies sur un gros bâteau ont demandé à leur guide de leur négocier le prix d'un taxi , du pont où se garent les bâteaux à Luxor jusqu'au Musée : 20 € l'aller simple !! Le prix normal serait de 20 Leg ...
Non , le mieux est de se débrouiller seuls . Bonne journée !
Non , le mieux est de se débrouiller seuls . Bonne journée !
Brigitte
Bonjour,
100% d'accord ! Le guide qui n'aura pas réussi à vous vendre une excursion se rattrapera sur la commission qu'il demandera au chauffeur de taxi ( voir les 20 €)
Ce ne sont pas les taxis qui manquent !
Descendre du bâteau , s'en éloigner un peu et ce sera plus facile
100% d'accord ! Le guide qui n'aura pas réussi à vous vendre une excursion se rattrapera sur la commission qu'il demandera au chauffeur de taxi ( voir les 20 €)
Ce ne sont pas les taxis qui manquent !
Descendre du bâteau , s'en éloigner un peu et ce sera plus facile
Ok j'ai vraiment un guide exceptionnel, je paye 1€ aller-retour pour les souks et le bateau est aponté loin de la ville.
Tout le monde ne peut pas avoir le même guide que moi. lol.
😉 Viens voyager sur mon site http://la.descente.du.nil.over-blog.fr/ ou http://photosdevoyageautourdumonde.fr
Merci Mirage et Fangui,
sûr je ne vais pas voir avec le guide du bateau, mais directement aux taxis
sûr je ne vais pas voir avec le guide du bateau, mais directement aux taxis
les momos
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All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




