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Tanzanie en 4x4: faire les safaris sans chauffeur?
by Olivierrsa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, je voyage depuis l'afrique du sud vers la tanzanie avec mon propre 4 x4, pouvez me dire si l'on peut avec sa voiture perso rentrer dans les parcs et faire des safaris, sans chaufeur guide ?
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olivier
en théorie oui mais le circulation dans les parcs est très réglementée, le comportement des animaux doit être connu et apprécié des chauffeurs
Pour finir les étendues du Serengeti par exemple ne donne pas droit à l'erreur d'itinéraire sachant que vous devez rejoindre votre lodge avant la tombé de la nuit.
Il faut reconnaitre également que les guides ont une connaissance du pays que nous n'avons pas obligatoirement et ces derniers sauront où vous pouvez voir des animaux
Amicalement
tu devra obligatoirement enbarquer un ranger toute la duree de ton séjour dans chaque parc (env 35 US$/j) et surtout payer une taxe pour ton vehicule (200 us$/j si moins de 3tonnes, 300 us$ si plus de 3 tonnes/j ) en plus des droits d'entrée (50$/pers)et les campsite fees (30$/pers).
en pratique on voit peu ou pas de vehicules privés car il revient mons cher de faire appel à une compagnie de safaris :le chauffeur guide te dispense du ranger et le vehicule est partiellement exonéré des taxes .
philippe
Oui biensur, la circulation en Tanzanie est assez tranquille contrairement au Kenya voisin.
Le seul problème c'est que ca revient cher mais pas autant que certains disent et qui semblent rouler pour les agences qui font du lobbying très fort pour dissuader les voyageurs individuels et les obliger à faire appelle à leur service.
Ainsi pour un vehicule etranger la taxe n'est pas de 200USD mais 40USD par jour, et il n'y a pas obligation d'avoir un ranger avec soi dans le parc à part pour le cratère du Ngonrogonro(mais le reste de la reserve est libre), il faut ajouter aussi 50USD de droit d'entrée mais ca que l'on soit en safari organisé ou seul ca change pas...
En plus quand on voit parfois les chauffeurs timbrés qui conduisent les touristes on se dit qu'on est pas plus mal dans son 4x4.
Donc si t'as ton 4x4 et qu'il est solide c'est tout à fait possible de faire la Tanzanie et ses parcs seul sans les vautours des agences de voyage alors qu'il y'a déja assez du gouvernement pour taxer les gens!
Lionel
les tarifs que j'ai donné sont ceux affichés à l'entrée du serengeti au mois de juillet 2007 (je t'envoie la photo du panneau en message privé si tu le souhaites).
quant au lobbiing d'agence privée, je suis un modeste touriste qui fair également des safaris en self drive dans les pays ou c'est abordable comme en afrique australe notamment.
philippe
je confirme que c'est bien 40$ pour un vehicule pour rentrer dans un parc tanzanien, c'est d'ailleurs marqué sur leur site web, et je ne sais pas à quoi ca correspond ces 200$ peut etre pour des vehicules plus lourds...??
sinon pour le lobbying c'etait surtout au message du dessus que je pensais car ces de la pure langue de bois de marchand de voyage, même si c'est vrai que ce sont rarement les guides qui ecrivent directement on entend "la voie de leur maitre" au travers des conversations.
Il faut quand même dire la vérité que les agences de safari de Tanzanie sont du pire rapport service/prix et que si seul il est rentable financierement de partir avec elles à partir de 2 cela devient presque identique et 3 c'est meme rentable d'etre en individuel.
Mais c'est vrai que c'est pas facile... car on fait tout pour empecher que le tourisme "libre" de se developper et pourtant c'est quand même plus agréable que d'être avec ces pseudos-guides et les chauffards qui conduisent les mini-bus!
Lionel
je me joins à votre conversation en vue d'un futur trip..
les pistes sont elles "bonnes" et suffisament balisées ? où faut-il un gps ?
j'entends par bonnes le fait qu'on n'est pas besoin d'avoir une expérience de pilote du Dakar pour s'y aventurer...
peut on dormir (tente sur le toit) à l'intérieur des parcs dans des emplacements prévus à cet effet ?
Botswana Zimbabwe 2011
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effectivement, 40$, c'est pour les vehicules de moins de 2 tonnes, trouves moi un bon 4X4 de moins de 2 tonnes...personnellement, je n'irai pas faire le serengeti en clio!
Pour ce qui est de ton avis sur les agences, je ne le partage pas du tout :nous sommes partis 10 jours en juillet avec une agence locale :qualité irréprochable, gentillesse et professionalisme du guide, pour un prix abordable (moins de 150$/j sur la base de 4 en bivouac), l'envie me démange de citer l'agence, mais on va me taxer de lobbiing...
philippe
effectivement, 40$, c'est pour les vehicules de moins de 2 tonnes, trouves moi un bon 4X4 de moins de 2 tonnes...personnellement, je n'irai pas faire le serengeti en clio!
Pour ce qui est de ton avis sur les agences, je ne le partage pas du tout :nous sommes partis 10 jours en juillet avec une agence locale :qualité irréprochable, gentillesse et professionalisme du guide, pour un prix abordable (moins de 150$/j sur la base de 4 en bivouac), l'envie me démange de citer l'agence, mais on va me taxer de lobbiing...
Benh si, il faut citer car si c'est vrai c'est une perle rare que tu as touvé... et enfin même si le vehicule excède les 2tonnes(surtaxe qui n'est pas toujours appliquée notre 4x4 faisait 2.2t et on a payé 40$ car ca ne se voyais pas trop qu'il était assez lourd) quand on est déjà à deux ca fait 300$ par jour en passant par les agences ce qui en effet ne fait pas faire d'économies en partant en individuel mais ne coute pas plus cher non plus, donc se critère la n'est pas discriminant
Benh si, il faut citer car si c'est vrai c'est une perle rare que tu as touvé... et enfin même si le vehicule excède les 2tonnes(surtaxe qui n'est pas toujours appliquée notre 4x4 faisait 2.2t et on a payé 40$ car ca ne se voyais pas trop qu'il était assez lourd) quand on est déjà à deux ca fait 300$ par jour en passant par les agences ce qui en effet ne fait pas faire d'économies en partant en individuel mais ne coute pas plus cher non plus, donc se critère la n'est pas discriminant
Lionel
Oui c'est quand même très recommandé car les routes sont déjà pas terribles... alors les pistes, même si on voit des gens locaux qui utilisent des voitures basses sur des pistes, franchement ça craint! Certes quelques parcs du coté Kenyan sont possibles ainsi qu'en Tanzanie autour d'Arusha (y'a même une très belle route qui va presque jusqu'au Ngonrogonro) mais pour faire une boucle complète.
Attention pour passer le vehicule de Kenya en Tanzanie demmandez tout les papiers et l'assurance spéciale pour passer la frontière. Sinon ca se passe en generale pas trop mal sauf peut-etre autour de Nairobie où la circulation ca craint vraiment,
Bon voyage!
Lionel
effectivement, 40$, c'est pour les vehicules de moins de 2 tonnes, trouves moi un bon 4X4 de moins de 2 tonnes...personnellement, je n'irai pas faire le serengeti en clio!
Pour ce qui est de ton avis sur les agences, je ne le partage pas du tout :nous sommes partis 10 jours en juillet avec une agence locale :qualité irréprochable, gentillesse et professionalisme du guide, pour un prix abordable (moins de 150$/j sur la base de 4 en bivouac), l'envie me démange de citer l'agence, mais on va me taxer de lobbiing...
Je sais que votre message date un peu... mais vraiment vous auriez du citer cette agence!! vous rapellez vous de son nom? merci!!!
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Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!






