Je commence à me pencher sur les assurances voyage.
Je suis très désagréablement surpris des tarifs que je n'imaginais pas aussi élevés !
Nous partons en famille pour deux ans avec nos trois enfants de 12ans, 5ans et le petit dernier qui aura 5mois au départ le 7 juillet prochain. Les comparatifs que j'ai pu faire nous amènent doucement vers un budget situé entre 4000 et 5000 euros pour deux ans !
Les assurances : AVI, AFA, Mondial, Europ, Fidelia, Maaf, AXA, Pacifia.... et d'autres...
Nous ne serons couverts que 3 mois avec ma carte "Premier", je ne suis pas en congé sabbatique mais j'aurais démissionné le 30 juin ...
Je n'avais pas compté un budget assurance aussi important (cette somme représente plusieurs mois de vie à 5 !)...
Je suis dépité... Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait une solution... Sinon de ne pas s'assurer et ça m'énerve.
Francis
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Les assurances, je suis d'accord, c'est l'horreur au niveau tarif.
T'as pas cité ISIC ( Magellan ), on ne sait jamais. La meilleure solution est, selon moi, si vous restez un moment au même endroit de prendre des assurances locales.
J'espère que tu ne vas pas prendre le risque de ne pas assurer ta famille, au moins pour partir l'esprit tranquille. Les pépins, ça n'arrive pas qu'aux autres.
" Dans un grain de sable voir un Monde et dans chaque fleur des champs le Paradis. Faire tenir l'Infini dans la paume de la main et l'Eternité dans une heure..."
W. Blake
Non, je n'ai pas regardé ISIC (Magellan), je vais toujours jeter un coup d'oeil ...merci pour le tuyau.
Je me demande si, en achetant chaque fois mes billets d'avion avec ma carte Premier je ne suis pas couvert par l'assurance de ma carte. Ou si la "couverture" ne compte que 3 mois après la sortie du territoire Français ...
Tu as raison, je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi concernant le pépin qui n'arrive pas qu'aux autres ... C'est bien pour ça que cette histoire me chiffonne autant ! Je vais devoir y passer c'est chiant ! A vrai dire je n'avais pas idée du tarif, et donc pas idée que mon budget devait intégrer une telle somme !
Francis
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Je sais seulement que cette carte te couvre pour 3 mois à l'étranger quand c'est des longs séjours.
Effectivement, à chaque fois que tu paies un billet d'avion, elle te couvre aussi mais pas pour tout. C'est les clauses qui sont vicieuses !
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Je me méfie des assurances. Depuis que je me suis fait cambrioler à l'étranger ( on m'a tout pris y compris mes papiers ), je fais gaffe plutôt 2 fois qu'une ( AVI n'a rien voulu savoir, tout ça parce que j'avais pas coché la case vol bagages et effets perso ! )
Bon courage, je compatis🤪
" Dans un grain de sable voir un Monde et dans chaque fleur des champs le Paradis. Faire tenir l'Infini dans la paume de la main et l'Eternité dans une heure..."
W. Blake
J'ai appelé le N° Visa Premier ce matin et j'ai appris plusieurs choses que je partage avec ceux qui ne savent pas :
Nous sommes couvert 90 jours durant notre voyage acheté aves la carte visas premier sur deux aspects : Assurance (bagages annulation, véhicule de location, hôtel...) et Assistance (tous les aspects santé, rapatriement et frais associés). Cette couverture assure toute la famille (conjoint, concubin, enfant à charge fiscale).
Pour être couvert après cette période de 90, il est possible d'acheter une extension de garantie pour les aspects Assistance (santé et rapatriement). J'attends les renseignements tarifaires pour continuer à vous renseigner, pour ceux que ça intéresse...
Si vous achetez un premier billet Paris > Madagascar, vous êtes couvert, puis vous achetez à Madagascar un Madagascar > Bangkok vous n'êtes pas couvert car vous ne partez pas de Paris, lieu de résidence ou vous payez vos impôts....Crotte ! j'ai tenté le coup, mais ça marche pas... Il faut acheter et retirer les billets physiquement à Paris...
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Francis
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Merci Francis pour tes infos, je surveille tes tarifs à venir...
" Dans un grain de sable voir un Monde et dans chaque fleur des champs le Paradis. Faire tenir l'Infini dans la paume de la main et l'Eternité dans une heure..."
W. Blake
Et si tu avais un contact fiable, à Paris, qui achetait tes billets d'avion avec TA carte de crédit...? Est-ce que tu crois que ce serait plausible ?
Par exemple, tu es au Madagascar, tu te prépares à aller à Bangok. Ta soeur va acheter tes billets d'avion dans une agence de voyage à Paris, elle paie avec ta carte de crédit et elle te les envoie.
À bien y penser, ça devient un peu compliqué ! ce n'est qu'une suggestion parmi tant d'autres !
Je lis actuellement tes différents messages à propos des assurances la dernière solution que te propose visa qui est quand même onéreuse me semble néanmoins correcte.
Car la couverture qu'il te propose avec le paiment de ta carte pendant 90 j et une "assistance" et non une assurance qui prend en charge les frais médicaux si je ne m'abuse enfin si je ne raconte pas des salades !!!! 😏 je crois de toute façon il faut bien faire attention aux nuances ds les contracts !!!!!!!!!!
Amicalement rémi
PS je suis les infos concernant les assurances de pret
Oui, pas terrible, c'est à peu près le prix proposé par les assurances en général pour un an.
A moins d'avoir moins de 26 ans pour les réduc, je vois pas non plus de solution...
" Dans un grain de sable voir un Monde et dans chaque fleur des champs le Paradis. Faire tenir l'Infini dans la paume de la main et l'Eternité dans une heure..."
W. Blake
On s'est rencontré dernièrement sur un salon alors que nous avions un stand avec les photos de notre voyage. J'ai vu ton message sur les assurances.
Juste une piste de reflexion. L'assurance qui couvre tout c'est super cher. Or l'important c'est plutot le rappatriment surtout dans ton cas avec des enfants. Si il leur arrive quelque chose tu seras peut etre plus tranquille de les savoir ici. Et pour les frais medicaux sur place (urgence d'un hopital local, analyse de labo...) a voir en fonction des pays que vous allez faire mais c'est pas forcement hors de prix. Par experience, au Perou j'ai du payer 30 euros pour une radio et un platre et en Turquie Jerome a du payer 40 euros pour des analyses de labo, le medecin et les medicaments.
Si tu veux tu peux envoyer un message à mon beau frere qui voyage en ce moment avec sa femme et ses deux enfants de 2 et 4 ans et ils te donneront peut etre leur solution. Ils ont un budget très serrés. Leur site www.terredeveil.com.
En ce qui nous concerne nous avions pris l'assurance AVA mais nous n'étions que 2 et la première année nous avions moins de 30 ans... mais le budget était considerable quand meme
Bonne preparation... je vois que cela avance serieusement !
Sophie
Jérôme
Villa Chiquitana
San José de Chiquitos
Bolivie
En regardant le site de ton beau frère, je me suis demandée si c'était une habitude familiale de se marier en Amérique du Sud lors d'un tour du monde?????😛
Pour le mariagen une habitude, pas vraiment, mais disons plutot une tradition. Nous n'étions pas le premier couple de la famille a le faire et Fabien et Valérie ont suivi... Disons que c'est aussi un moment magnifique à partager ensemble en Famille et puisque le voyage est une tradition familiale alors cela va un peu dans le meme sens...
Fabien et Valerie ce sont mariés en Fevrier au Guatemala et c'etait un très bel engagement... après 15 ans de vie commune et deux pitchounes... ils sont en ce moment au Pérou.
A bientôt
Sophie
Jérôme
Villa Chiquitana
San José de Chiquitos
Bolivie
As tu essayé de demander un sponsoring de la part de ces assurances... Une petite remise pourrait être la bienvenue pour ton budget.
Ne pleure surtout pas... la solution tu vas la trouver c'est evident et puis, pense que c'est quand meme pour une bonne cause au cas où il faille vous soigner !
A bientot
Sophie
Jérôme
Villa Chiquitana
San José de Chiquitos
Bolivie
je sais pas si ta question sur les assurances est toujours d'actualité, mais il existe des possibilités de couverture via les assurances déjà contractées type assurance logement. Personnellement, je pars 1 an et je garde mon assurance logement chez Matmut; elle te couvre pour les rapatriements, hospitalisations, etc.
C'est peut-être une piste ...
Cordialement,
Félicien
Ce qui compte c'est le voyage, pas la destination !
Bonne nouvelle suite à location Avis pour cet été: Le tarif semaine dernière était 80 euros moins cher que ma réservation prépayée faite un mois plus tôt.…
Puisque je n'ai pas de trouver de réponse sur le Faq de Airbnb je me tourne sur les gents qui ont de l’expérience. en essayant de réserver sur Airbnb je voix…
Nous avons réservé un voyage avec un T.O., avec départ le 02 août 2008. Nous avons réglé la totalité de ce voyage, et l'agence nous renvoie une nouvelle…
En general on recherche un billet d'avion a partir de dates et on decouvre le prix... existe t'il un site ou on a acces aux differents niveaux de tarifs en…
Many of us have noticed that bugs have been making it difficult to navigate the forum lately.
I’ll let Kate and Ticapi explain the issue:
I went to your profile to check out the Thailand travel journal, and when I clicked on it, it brought me back here again. All week, I’ve been dealing with bugs like this—it’s really discouraging from continuing on VF.🙁
I had the same thing happen, and multiple times. For me, it was Montagnard’s latest journal that kept coming up no matter which discussion I clicked on.
BOLIVIA: THE COUNTRY ON THE BRINK (What's Really Happening)
A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity.
Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours:
For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route.
I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum!
Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum
I just discovered a great show on Arte.
It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂
Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy.
They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report.
It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch!
It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
I left my heart’s country eight days ago and returned to my adopted one—or was it the other way around? Scotland-Morvan, Morvan-Scotland, I’m not quite sure anymore.
After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story.
Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider.
But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube.
Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long.
Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter.
(I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport.
Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers.
I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right?
Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost?
Thanks for your help!
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15.
The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG.
In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam.
We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM.
So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG.
So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this?
Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt.
At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €.
Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students
Bonnat Elementary School
12 rue Georges Sand
23220 BONNAT
Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊
Julien
🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening.
Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations?
Thanks,
Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar.
It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
Not sure if this is the right section, but just wanted to warn future travelers...
Where’s Cape Vidal?
It’s in iSimangaliso, an independent park in KZN Wildlife, stunning and just a stone’s throw from St Lucia (KwaZulu-Natal, Maputaland).
It’s the beach spot at the end of the Eastern Shores road. You can swim, fish... but watch out for waves, currents, and sharks...
There’s a really nice game drive where you can get out of your car at certain points, especially at Cape Vidal.
That’s where the camp with bungalows and campsites is.
The vervets and samango monkeys (endemic to the area, and the males are pretty big) can be a bit of a nuisance if you’re trying to braai...
They’re super persistent and not shy at all—don’t let them intimidate you, and stay alert because their speed at snatching food is impressive.
Anyway...
I’m reporting two recent attacks by these hyenas... who were *not* in a playful mood...
The first one happened at night—a hyena tried to bite a camper’s nose off in their tent... and succeeded.
The other night, a camper returning to their tent in the early hours was violently attacked by two hyenas... and they had a close call!
So, if you’re camping there, be careful...
Measures are being taken, but for now, it’s a bit risky.
A white rental Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4 carrying foreign tourists was attacked at the entrance of Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park in the village of Bekopaka, western Madagascar, yesterday. So far, there’s been no response from the central government to curb these repeated armed attacks—usually between Malagasy people, but this time targeting foreign tourists.
After an engine failure in mid-2016 on a long-haul flight from BRISBANE to LYON, I developed a persistent aviophobia that I’m struggling to shake off. It’s becoming more and more of a hindrance.
Up until now, I’ve been using an avoidance strategy (for example, avoiding destinations that would require any other mode of transport than a car or train), but lately, it’s become really limiting.
I’m looking for a therapist—either in-person or via video call—who could help me get past this hurdle.
First and foremost, I hope this topic won’t just focus on my region—the South of France—and that those of you who enjoy exchanging ideas will share what makes your own regions special.
Personally, I’ve often wanted to push back when people call us vulgar (though I’ll admit I sometimes play it up). At heart, we pure-blooded Southerners just have our own way of expressing ourselves, which differs from other regions. We also get heated in conversations pretty easily (some researchers say it’s the influence of the sun and climate in general).
What some perceive as vulgar, we don’t see that way at all.
Do you want a uniform world with no differences? If so, how do you handle traveling to places with cultures completely different from your own?
In the travel community, the word "authenticity" comes up a lot, and it often takes priority in people’s searches.
In my specific case, speaking a purely regional language without having gone to school for it doesn’t help with understanding on this forum. That’s what creates what you call controversies—and what I call passionate exchanges.
It left me speechless and ended the conversation because, for him, that’s just how he sees things, and he refuses to debate it, sticking to his position. I’ll quote him, hoping he won’t hold it against me:
"For me, things like bullfighting, boxing, football, and MMA are just tangible proof that human evolution is still at a primitive stage."
For him, our Latin-origin bullfights are barbaric customs. For us *taurins*, we need to see men face wild beasts (bulls and *toros*) at the risk of their lives every day. Does that make us barbarians?
We’ve always had this need to confront death—it’s in our genes.
Take the example he gave about football: fans of the sport would be considered mentally underdeveloped. But what about a kid who’s passionate about the game and has that drive to be a winner, just like a boxer or athletes in other violent sports?
As a traveler myself, passionate about old stones and beautiful historic buildings, I’ve visited Rome but couldn’t fully appreciate it. Religion is everywhere, and I felt like I had a lead weight on my head realizing that millions of people worldwide have believed in a god for millennia.
I’ve also judged believers for basing their faith on archaic texts that don’t prove a god (or gods) ever existed—I still think that, but I’m open to being proven wrong so I can say, "You’ve convinced me I was mistaken."
- If everyone clings to their own ideas and positions, no discussion is possible, and that’s a shame.
I’ll take away two things from my forum interactions: some accuse me of being omnipresent when I just love exchanging ideas. My way of speaking is misunderstood (regional differences), even if I’ll admit I sometimes turn up the heat—or rather, the *aïoli* —which for me is just lively debates 🔥 (a regional specialty).
And my "mocking" side, which I really need to work on.
This topic isn’t just about me—I hope other forum members will share their own regional "specialties" . For example, in Alsace, some older folks switch to their local language when they don’t want outsiders to understand, and I still don’t know if it’s German or something else.