Traitement anti-paludisme pour un tour du monde d'un an?
by Titophem
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous les voyageurs!
nous envisageons moi et ma cherie un tour du monde d'une année, dont l'itinéraire est: afrique du sud, madagascar, maurice, asie (laos, cambodge, thailande, vietnam, chine, indonesie, birmanie..) puis amerique latine (perou, bolivie, bresil). Bref, autant de pays, autant de moustiques, aussi coriaces les uns que les autres... il y a pas mal de post sur le sujet mais je voulais avoir des précisions sur le traitement anti pallu:
nous pensons nous proteger au maximum (anti moustique, moustiquaire...) mais nous hesitons a prendre un traitement sur le long terme car nous lisons que le traitement perd de son effet au fil des mois, qu'il est violent pour l'estomac (et j'ai deja de gros pbs de bide), et que chaque endroit a son "type" de moustique pas forcement receptif aux traitements anti pallu...
nous avons lu qu'il fallait tout de même emporter un traitement en cas de crise:
- pouvez vous nous en dire plus? quel est ce traitement? est ce juste un anti pallu "quelconque"? ou un autre fait expressement pour les cas de crise?
- Avez vous des astuces ou d'autres traitements préventifs plus "light" (homeopathie...??etc)
- A quoi reconnait t-on qu'on a le pallu, les symptomes
- en cas de crise, combien de cachet et le moment auquel il faut administrer le traitement, ce qu'il faut faire ou surtout ne pas faire?
Nous aimerions avoir vos retours d'expériences sur le sujet!
MERCI D'AVANCE DE VOTRE AIDE !!😉
Le monde est un grand livre ouvert. Qui ne voyage pas ne lit qu'une page ...
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bonjour!
il n'y a personne pour nous repondre, une aide s'il vous plait?
merci!
Le monde est un grand livre ouvert. Qui ne voyage pas ne lit qu'une page ...
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Un tel traitement dit présomptif reste l'exception et n'a d'utilité que si vous allez dans des zones très isolées, à plus de 12 heures de la possibilité d'une prise en charge médicale. Il est dangereux et est réservé à des voyageurs informés et responsables, et doit être prescrit par un médecin, de préférence compétent en Médecine des Voyages, lors d'une consultation où sont détaillés les conditions et lieux exacts du voyage, vos problèmes médicaux personnels et les problèmes spécifiques qu'ils peuvent poser, les précautions à prendre (eau, moustiques, autres, ..), les vaccinations nécessaires et conseillés, avec une information sur les risques et la conduite à tenir en cas de problème. Compte tenu de votre trajet, cette consultation est indispensable. Vous y aurez la réponse à vos questions.
Salut,
On est rentré il y a un peu plus d'un mois d'un voyage au long cours en Asie avec notre fils (Chine, Vietnam, Cambodge, Laos, Thaïlande, Inde, etc). On a voyagé en vélo. On n'a pris aucun traitement, on a fait gaffe simplement (huiles essentielles et homéopathie contre les piqures plus protection : manches longues, pantalons longs, etc ....) ; on avait de la malarone à prendre en cas de ......; Le médecin t'indiquera les conditions dans les lesquelles tu dois les prendre si jamais tu attrapais une cochonnerie......... Je pense que les risques sont assez mince si tu fais attention. Bon courage
A+, Caro
On est rentré il y a un peu plus d'un mois d'un voyage au long cours en Asie avec notre fils (Chine, Vietnam, Cambodge, Laos, Thaïlande, Inde, etc). On a voyagé en vélo. On n'a pris aucun traitement, on a fait gaffe simplement (huiles essentielles et homéopathie contre les piqures plus protection : manches longues, pantalons longs, etc ....) ; on avait de la malarone à prendre en cas de ......; Le médecin t'indiquera les conditions dans les lesquelles tu dois les prendre si jamais tu attrapais une cochonnerie......... Je pense que les risques sont assez mince si tu fais attention. Bon courage
A+, Caro
"Le voyage est un retour vers l'essentiel." (proverbe tibétain)
Bonjour,
Je pars dans une semaine en Inde avec mon fils...les traitements huiles essentielles et homéop m'interessent...peux tu me renseigner.
merci par avance.
"Je vous souhaite de rêver à n'en plus finir, et l'envie d'en réaliser quelques uns...je vous souhaite d'aimer ce qu'il faut aimer et d'oublier ce qu'il faut oublier." Jacques Brel
Salut,
Tu peux consulter mon blog : 3petitours-envelo.travelblog.fr A la rubrique "Avant le départ" tu trouveras une page intitulée "Matériel et Accessoires" ; la liste comprend ce que l'on a emporté en homéo et huiles essentielles. Celles qui sont notées nous ont principalement servi à préparer un mélange sur base de citronnelle (efficacité moyenne).
J'oubliais : on a utilisé du Mosiguard (efficacité excellente) contre les mousiques.
Bonne préparation
A+, Caro
Tu peux consulter mon blog : 3petitours-envelo.travelblog.fr A la rubrique "Avant le départ" tu trouveras une page intitulée "Matériel et Accessoires" ; la liste comprend ce que l'on a emporté en homéo et huiles essentielles. Celles qui sont notées nous ont principalement servi à préparer un mélange sur base de citronnelle (efficacité moyenne).
J'oubliais : on a utilisé du Mosiguard (efficacité excellente) contre les mousiques.
Bonne préparation
A+, Caro
"Le voyage est un retour vers l'essentiel." (proverbe tibétain)
Bonjour,
Merci pour ces renseignements...Qu'est ce que le mosiguard, une crême répulsive ou autre? trouves t on cela en France ou en Inde?
Merci encore et bonne journée.
"Je vous souhaite de rêver à n'en plus finir, et l'envie d'en réaliser quelques uns...je vous souhaite d'aimer ce qu'il faut aimer et d'oublier ce qu'il faut oublier." Jacques Brel
Salut,
On a utilisé le Mosiguar sous forme de spray ; on en trouve aussi pour imprégner les vêtements. Moi, je l'ai commandé sur la toile. Tu tapes simplement "Mosiguard" et tu devrais trouver sans problème. Efficacité garantie !
A+, Caro
On a utilisé le Mosiguar sous forme de spray ; on en trouve aussi pour imprégner les vêtements. Moi, je l'ai commandé sur la toile. Tu tapes simplement "Mosiguard" et tu devrais trouver sans problème. Efficacité garantie !
A+, Caro
"Le voyage est un retour vers l'essentiel." (proverbe tibétain)
Salut,
A mon avis, vous ne ferez pas l'économie d'une consultation auprès d'un médecin du voyage... En plus du traitement préventif du palu (qui ne vous sera d'ailleurs pas systématiquement conseillé par le médecin), il y a la question des vaccins...
Les expériences des uns et des autres sur un forum c'est intéressant, mais pour une expérience comme celle que vous allez vivre, il vaut vraiment mieux consulter un spécialiste...
Bon voyage
A mon avis, vous ne ferez pas l'économie d'une consultation auprès d'un médecin du voyage... En plus du traitement préventif du palu (qui ne vous sera d'ailleurs pas systématiquement conseillé par le médecin), il y a la question des vaccins...
Les expériences des uns et des autres sur un forum c'est intéressant, mais pour une expérience comme celle que vous allez vivre, il vaut vraiment mieux consulter un spécialiste...
Bon voyage
Cyrille
Salut,
On n'a pas consulté de médecin spécialisé, par contre on a rencontré plusieurs fois notre médecin traitant pour faire faire nos vaccinations et on a vu avec elle quels traitements étaient les mieux adaptés ; elle a pris le temps de se renseigner pour nous !
A+, Caro
On n'a pas consulté de médecin spécialisé, par contre on a rencontré plusieurs fois notre médecin traitant pour faire faire nos vaccinations et on a vu avec elle quels traitements étaient les mieux adaptés ; elle a pris le temps de se renseigner pour nous !
A+, Caro
"Le voyage est un retour vers l'essentiel." (proverbe tibétain)
.....et puis une petite recherche sur le forum..car il y a une foule d'infos !!! sur le sujet !!!! bon voyage !
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Bonjour,
Je suis d'accord avec CyrilleG en ce qui concerne la consultation
1- vaccinations
2- les traitements anti palu sont parfois lourds, loin d'être anodins et comportent un certain nombre de contre-indication et d'effets secondaires
Ils sont toxiques en cas de prise prolongée: 3 mois maxi pour la Malarone (un des derniers nés, plutot bien toléré). Donc déjà, la question de la prise continue ne se pose pas sur une période de 1 an. Un medecin spécialisé pourra vous conseiller sur les zones à risque (par exemple, en forets amazonienne ex..), en revanche, le palu n'existe pas à plus de 2500 mètres d'altitude... à discuter fonction de votre itinéraire.
De plus, le traitement anti palu n'évite pas l'impaludation et n'évite pas tjrs la crise quoiqu'elle limite son intensité. Le traitement le plus efficace c'est la prévention anti-moustique++++
Il faut aussi penser que la resistance aux traitements (les fameuses zone 2 et 3), et en premier lieu à la quinine, medicament accessible au population locale et peu cher, provient de l'utilisation (par les touristes) de traitements prophylaxiques (le même principe que les resistances aux antibiotiques). Evidemment, ce n'est pas un argument pour ne pas prendre de prophylaxie en cas de séjour de courte durée mais il faut en avoir conscience et surtout ne pas prendre son traitement n'importe comment: bien respecter les posologies et adapter son traitement à la zone concernée.
Enfin, pour reconnaitre un palu: Debut: "embarras gastrique fébrile", avec fièvre jusqu'à 40-41°c, possible céphalées, vomissements, diarrhée... Accès palustre en 3 phases de 1-2 h chacune:frissons +++ avec sensation de froid ++ et temperature jusqu'à 41°Cpuis chaleur +++puis Sueurs+++
DANGER= Neuro-paludisme: Fièvre à 40°C, Coma, Convulsions. Donc si etat neuro anormal (au debut simple obnubilation, en général c'est l'autre qui s'en rend compte!) avec fievre: CONSULATION EN URGENCE.
En vous souhaitant à tous (touchons du bois), un bon voyage sans cette vilaine bête.
Sacoche
Ils sont toxiques en cas de prise prolongée: 3 mois maxi pour la Malarone (un des derniers nés, plutot bien toléré). Donc déjà, la question de la prise continue ne se pose pas sur une période de 1 an. Un medecin spécialisé pourra vous conseiller sur les zones à risque (par exemple, en forets amazonienne ex..), en revanche, le palu n'existe pas à plus de 2500 mètres d'altitude... à discuter fonction de votre itinéraire.
De plus, le traitement anti palu n'évite pas l'impaludation et n'évite pas tjrs la crise quoiqu'elle limite son intensité. Le traitement le plus efficace c'est la prévention anti-moustique++++
Il faut aussi penser que la resistance aux traitements (les fameuses zone 2 et 3), et en premier lieu à la quinine, medicament accessible au population locale et peu cher, provient de l'utilisation (par les touristes) de traitements prophylaxiques (le même principe que les resistances aux antibiotiques). Evidemment, ce n'est pas un argument pour ne pas prendre de prophylaxie en cas de séjour de courte durée mais il faut en avoir conscience et surtout ne pas prendre son traitement n'importe comment: bien respecter les posologies et adapter son traitement à la zone concernée.
Enfin, pour reconnaitre un palu: Debut: "embarras gastrique fébrile", avec fièvre jusqu'à 40-41°c, possible céphalées, vomissements, diarrhée... Accès palustre en 3 phases de 1-2 h chacune:frissons +++ avec sensation de froid ++ et temperature jusqu'à 41°Cpuis chaleur +++puis Sueurs+++
DANGER= Neuro-paludisme: Fièvre à 40°C, Coma, Convulsions. Donc si etat neuro anormal (au debut simple obnubilation, en général c'est l'autre qui s'en rend compte!) avec fievre: CONSULATION EN URGENCE.
En vous souhaitant à tous (touchons du bois), un bon voyage sans cette vilaine bête.
Sacoche
bonjour caroline,
je pense partir avec mon copains au laos vietnam cambodge thailande durant cinq mois en velo des janvier 2010
Et je suis super etonnée de voir que vous avez pas pris d'anti palu pour votre virons.c a ne craint pas ? moi on m'avait dit que c'etait une zone impaludée, mais c'est sur que si je peux me passer du traitement sans prendre de risque ca m'arrangerait vraiment
merci de m'expliqué votre choix ou aviez vous eu des infos...
MERCI JULIE
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Thanks in advance, everyone.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!