Quelqu'un peut me renseigner sur un trajet organisé en car ? Heure de départ, durée du trajet etc....Merci
Trajet Assouan - Abou Simbel (Égypte)
by Ahmes
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Bonjour ! Quel est la compagnie qui couvre Assouan -Abou Simbel actuellement ? La dernière fois que nous y sommes allés s'était Flash Airlines et franchement bonjour la galère. On devait décoller à 6 heures du matin mais un problème technique a repoussé le départ 4 heures plus tard.
Quelqu'un peut me renseigner sur un trajet organisé en car ? Heure de départ, durée du trajet etc....Merci
Quelqu'un peut me renseigner sur un trajet organisé en car ? Heure de départ, durée du trajet etc....Merci
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
Pourquoi ne pas prendre un taxi collectif a Assouan.
Départ trés tot le matin (vers 3h) arrivée a Abou Simbel vers 6h30 (avant les bus de touristes organisés)
et reour a Assouan en tout début d'aprés midi.
Ces taxi se trouvent devant pratiquement tous les hotels.
Michel
Carpe Diem
Bonjour,
pour les rotations aériennes entre ASSOUAN et ABOU SIMBEL ; deux options :
vols nationaux réguliers : compagnie nationale EGYPTAIR ; 2 à 4 rotations aller/retour par jour, selon jours de la semaine et saison. réservation depuis l'étranger ou sur place disponible pour groupes ou individuels. prix modifiés au 19 février 07 : 131 USD l'aller retour selon taux change du jour.
vols charters : compagnies Air memphis, lotus, AMC (Flash en faisait partie) ... jour et rotation en fonction des réservations des gros TO qui affrètent les avions. pas de résa sur place disponible en individuel en dehors des circuits achettés dans les agences qui affrètent les vols.
NB/ pour info et depuis le 19 février 07, les prix des avions vols domestiques de Egpytair ont changés. Ils sont "un peu plus bas" pour les étrangers, certains troncons ayant baissés de plusieurs dollars ....
par contre, plus de tarif préférentiels ni pour les Egpytiens, ni pour les expat qui payent maintenant tous le prix fort et unique identique aux étrangers ....
si vous prévoyez voyager en train entre le caire louxor et assouan ; ils risquent fort d'être prix d'assaut par les Egpytiens qui ne pourront plus payer les nouveaux tarifs aériens (plus du double par rapport à avant !!) ..et vous recommande donc de réserver à l'avance vos billets de train, sous peine de rester sur le quai ou assis par terre dans les sas de longues heures !!!
pour les rotations aériennes entre ASSOUAN et ABOU SIMBEL ; deux options :
vols nationaux réguliers : compagnie nationale EGYPTAIR ; 2 à 4 rotations aller/retour par jour, selon jours de la semaine et saison. réservation depuis l'étranger ou sur place disponible pour groupes ou individuels. prix modifiés au 19 février 07 : 131 USD l'aller retour selon taux change du jour.
vols charters : compagnies Air memphis, lotus, AMC (Flash en faisait partie) ... jour et rotation en fonction des réservations des gros TO qui affrètent les avions. pas de résa sur place disponible en individuel en dehors des circuits achettés dans les agences qui affrètent les vols.
NB/ pour info et depuis le 19 février 07, les prix des avions vols domestiques de Egpytair ont changés. Ils sont "un peu plus bas" pour les étrangers, certains troncons ayant baissés de plusieurs dollars ....
par contre, plus de tarif préférentiels ni pour les Egpytiens, ni pour les expat qui payent maintenant tous le prix fort et unique identique aux étrangers ....
si vous prévoyez voyager en train entre le caire louxor et assouan ; ils risquent fort d'être prix d'assaut par les Egpytiens qui ne pourront plus payer les nouveaux tarifs aériens (plus du double par rapport à avant !!) ..et vous recommande donc de réserver à l'avance vos billets de train, sous peine de rester sur le quai ou assis par terre dans les sas de longues heures !!!
Katty
Merci ça m'intéresse je n'avais pas pensé à cette option. As-tu une idée du prix pour 2 personnes et serais-je sûre de retrouver un taxi pour le retour car nous repartons sur le Caire (en avion cette fois) dans l'après-midi. C'est le seul point noir.
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
Je n'ai pas souvenir du prix, on avait pris ce taxis a 5 personnes ce qui divise le prix discuté par 5.
Par contre si je comprends ton message, tu reprends l'avion pour le Caire l'apres midi meme de ton excursion a Abu Simbel ?
Si c'est le cas faits trés attention aux horaires.
Michel
Michel
Carpe Diem
Bonjour,
Je mets la réponse que je m'étais faite à moi même il y a de cela quelques jours
Pour eviter l'option convoi et reveil a 3 h du matin que propose les hotels et qui ne se justifie pas, voici une demarche possible et beaucoup moins contraignante : 1 -Prendre le bus Upper Egypt Bus de 8 h a la gare routiere. 21 LE jusqu'a Abou Simbel. Le taxi entre le centre ville et la gare routiere m'est revenu a 10 LE. L'arrivee est a 12 h à Abou. 2 -Aller a pied au site qui n'est pas loin environ 1, 5 km (20 mn de marche) ou prendre un minibus pour pas cher si il y en a un qui se propose. 3 - Visiter le site pendant 1 h ou 2 h et revenir tranquillement pour prendre le bus prevu a 16 heure de Upper Egypt. 4 - Un policier nous indique que le bus de Upper Egypt Bus de 16 h n'est pas fiable. Il nous invite a prendre un minibus (25 LE) mais qui est plus rapide 3 h au lieu de 4. C'est vrai que lorsque nous avons decolle a 16 h notre bus prevu a l'origine n'etait tjrs pas la et que nous ne l'avons pas croise sur la route.
Pascal
Je mets la réponse que je m'étais faite à moi même il y a de cela quelques jours
Pour eviter l'option convoi et reveil a 3 h du matin que propose les hotels et qui ne se justifie pas, voici une demarche possible et beaucoup moins contraignante : 1 -Prendre le bus Upper Egypt Bus de 8 h a la gare routiere. 21 LE jusqu'a Abou Simbel. Le taxi entre le centre ville et la gare routiere m'est revenu a 10 LE. L'arrivee est a 12 h à Abou. 2 -Aller a pied au site qui n'est pas loin environ 1, 5 km (20 mn de marche) ou prendre un minibus pour pas cher si il y en a un qui se propose. 3 - Visiter le site pendant 1 h ou 2 h et revenir tranquillement pour prendre le bus prevu a 16 heure de Upper Egypt. 4 - Un policier nous indique que le bus de Upper Egypt Bus de 16 h n'est pas fiable. Il nous invite a prendre un minibus (25 LE) mais qui est plus rapide 3 h au lieu de 4. C'est vrai que lorsque nous avons decolle a 16 h notre bus prevu a l'origine n'etait tjrs pas la et que nous ne l'avons pas croise sur la route.
Pascal
Bonjour,
La règle de maximum 4 étrangers dans les bus de la Upper Egypt est-elle encore d'application ?
La règle de maximum 4 étrangers dans les bus de la Upper Egypt est-elle encore d'application ?
"Les relations, c'est comme l'argent, on n'en a jamais assez"
La semaine dernière nous étions 6 dans le bus entre Assouan et Abou Simbel.
Il parait qu'il n'est plus possible actuellement de réserver un taxi collectif pour se rendre d'Assouan à Abou Simbel si l'on participe à une croisière par un grand TO. Est-ce vrai ?
Selon certaines sources les taxis ou minibus d'Assouan peuvent uniquement emmener à Abou Simbel les touristes logeant dans les hôtels d'Assouan. Ils voudraient bien mais n'osent plus à cause des pressions des TO qui font payer le prix max à leurs clients .
Si quelqu'un a des infos récentes, ce serait sympa de les communiquer car nous partons à 6 en avril et nous n'avons pas envie de payer par le TO 5x + chèr que le prix demandé par un chauffeur local et comme le bateau repart en début d'après midi je ne peux pas prendre le bus de 8h du matin.
Merci
Bonjour,
Si vous voulez vraiment vous devez pouvoir, mais l'enjeu financier et la pression sont tels qu'effectivement il y aura peut-être une forte résistance. En tant quer client de TO, vous êtes escompté comme "apport financier" et tout est prévu en tenant compte de ça, y compris le prix que vous payez dès le départ pour la croisière.
Michel
Si vous voulez vraiment vous devez pouvoir, mais l'enjeu financier et la pression sont tels qu'effectivement il y aura peut-être une forte résistance. En tant quer client de TO, vous êtes escompté comme "apport financier" et tout est prévu en tenant compte de ça, y compris le prix que vous payez dès le départ pour la croisière.
Michel
D'accord mais il me semble quand même logique de pouvoir prendre un taxi collectif ou privé et de payer 5x - cher que par le TO.
D'autant plus que ce ne sont pas les autorités égyptiennes qui l'interdisent moins plutôt les TO européens qui interdisent aux chauffeurs de taxi locaux de conduire " leurs" clients.
C'est révoltant.
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We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques




