Trajet Delhi - Âgrâ la nuit: dangereux?
by Adile59
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour . Je dois me rendre en inde. Et mon vol doit arriver à new delhi ( aéoroport indira gandhi )aux alentours de 22h. Je souhaiterais me rendre à Agra aussitot. Comment puis je faire ? Y a t-il des trains de nuit ? Peut on reserver des taxis prepayés ? Et enfin combien ca coûte ? N'est ce pas dangereux de faire ce trajet la nuit ? Merci a tous ceux qui prendront la peine de me lire et de me répondre
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bonjour,
si c'est ton premier voyage en Inde, contente toi de prendre un taxi pré-paid en arrivant à l'aéroport et de te faire conduire dans l'hôtel que tu auras réservé auparavant par internet; le lendemain matin, essaie de de trouver un train pour Agra mais ça va être très difficile : les trains indiens sont pleins 1 voir 2 mois avant leur départ et la ligne Delhi-Agra est très prisée, c'est celle aussi où il y a le plus de vols ou d'arnaques, donc gare à tes bagages....
si c'est ton premier voyage en Inde, contente toi de prendre un taxi pré-paid en arrivant à l'aéroport et de te faire conduire dans l'hôtel que tu auras réservé auparavant par internet; le lendemain matin, essaie de de trouver un train pour Agra mais ça va être très difficile : les trains indiens sont pleins 1 voir 2 mois avant leur départ et la ligne Delhi-Agra est très prisée, c'est celle aussi où il y a le plus de vols ou d'arnaques, donc gare à tes bagages....
Pas que ce soit particulièrement dangereux, mais ça me paraît vraiment rude pour un premier voyage en Inde. Déjà, les trains sont souvent complets comme l'a dit Cdarnaut. Puis arriver fatiguée et décalée à minuit dans le chaos d'une gare à Delhi pour faire la queue à un guichet, se faire comprendre et attendre le prochain train qui sera à coup sûr bondé, ce serait marrant pour un défi à Pékin Express, mais bon là...
Le mieux serait d'attendre le lendemain matin, demander des renseignements à ton hôtel et prendre un bus depuis l'une des grandes gares routières de la ville, au moins tu es sûre de trouver une place. Ce sera à peine plus cher que le train, certainement autour de 3 euros, et plus simple et confortable. Pourquoi pas essayer d'aller directement de l'aéroport à un une gare routière si tu ne veux absolument pas passer la nuit à Delhi, mais il faut s'assurer avant qu'il y a des bus qui partent. En principe, il y a des départs très fréquents pour Agra. Il y a aussi la solution de louer les services d'un chauffeur, mais ce sera beaucoup plus cher.
Pour le prepaid taxi à l'aéroport, pas la peine de réserver. Il suffit de se rendre au guichet, assez bien indiqué dans l'aéroport et donner l'adresse de destination. Il y a des dizaines de taxis qui attendent.
Le mieux serait d'attendre le lendemain matin, demander des renseignements à ton hôtel et prendre un bus depuis l'une des grandes gares routières de la ville, au moins tu es sûre de trouver une place. Ce sera à peine plus cher que le train, certainement autour de 3 euros, et plus simple et confortable. Pourquoi pas essayer d'aller directement de l'aéroport à un une gare routière si tu ne veux absolument pas passer la nuit à Delhi, mais il faut s'assurer avant qu'il y a des bus qui partent. En principe, il y a des départs très fréquents pour Agra. Il y a aussi la solution de louer les services d'un chauffeur, mais ce sera beaucoup plus cher.
Pour le prepaid taxi à l'aéroport, pas la peine de réserver. Il suffit de se rendre au guichet, assez bien indiqué dans l'aéroport et donner l'adresse de destination. Il y a des dizaines de taxis qui attendent.
Salut
Regarde les horaires sur le site CLEARTRIP .... Aucun avantage à partir directement pour Agra, autant passer la nuit à Delhi dans le quartier de Pahar ganj, à 5mn à pied de la gare. Je te conseille de passer par une agence pour réserver ton train. Par exemple Metropolis travels ... hôtel au même nom.
Impossible de réserver un prepaid, au moins de passer par un hôtel... Prix ? 400R ? bureau de change avant la sortie.
Question sécurité ... moins craignos que le RER jusqu'à Roissy.
Bon voyage
Ps: si tu as réellement 97 ans tu as les voyages en train à 1/2 tarif
"Impossible de réserver un prepaid, au moins de passer par un hôtel" .....???????
le prepaid ne se réserve pas : quand on a passé l'immigration et qu'on entre dans le hall de l'aéroport, tu verras tout de suite un guichet marqué "prepaid", tu fais la queue, le monsieur te demande où tu veux aller, tu donnes le quartier de Delhi (pas besoin de l'adresse exacte) où se trouve ton hôtel; il te fait payer une somme modique (entre 300 et 450rps) te donne un ticket; tu sors, tu montres ton ticket à un type qui t'emmène tout droit vers un taxi dit "prepaid", tu gardes ton précieux billet et ne le donne au chauffeur que quand tu es arrivé devant ton hôtel (vérifie bien que tu es devant le bon)....
Si le chauffeur n'a pas foncé comme un malade, ne t'a pas dit que ton hôtel avait brûlé, était fermé ou était infesté de cafards....tu peux éventuellement lui donner un pourboire.
le prepaid ne se réserve pas : quand on a passé l'immigration et qu'on entre dans le hall de l'aéroport, tu verras tout de suite un guichet marqué "prepaid", tu fais la queue, le monsieur te demande où tu veux aller, tu donnes le quartier de Delhi (pas besoin de l'adresse exacte) où se trouve ton hôtel; il te fait payer une somme modique (entre 300 et 450rps) te donne un ticket; tu sors, tu montres ton ticket à un type qui t'emmène tout droit vers un taxi dit "prepaid", tu gardes ton précieux billet et ne le donne au chauffeur que quand tu es arrivé devant ton hôtel (vérifie bien que tu es devant le bon)....
Si le chauffeur n'a pas foncé comme un malade, ne t'a pas dit que ton hôtel avait brûlé, était fermé ou était infesté de cafards....tu peux éventuellement lui donner un pourboire.
Merci a tous pour vos réponses détaillés et de votre aide. C'est sympa !!! En fait je veux aller a agra la nuit car moi et mon amie voulons voir le lever de soleil sur le taj mahal. Question bête . Les taxis prépaid ca fonctionne aussi jusqu'a Agra ? Et jusqu'à quel heure le bureau des taxi prepaid est il ouvert ? Car jarrive vers 22h. Avez vous une idee du tarif en taxi delhi - agra la nuit ?
Si vraiment c'est compliqué; je pense qu'il vaut mieux dormir a delhi. Partir au matin et voir le taj mahal l'aprem midi jusqu'au coucher de soleil ? Qu'en dites vous la compagnie ? Je suis un peu paumé quant à l'organisation. Je reste que 2 jours en inde. Merci encore pour votre aide
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2 jours en Inde c'est juste le temps de commander un seau d'eau chaude et prendre sa douche . 🙂
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
Lol j ai conscience que c'est du ultra rapide. C'est pour ca je gratte un max d'infos.
Quelqu'un peut-il me renseigner sur les tarifs de taxi delhi agra la nuit.?
Et si les bureaux de taxi prepaid sont ouvert a 22h a l'aéroport ?
Quelqu'un peut-il me renseigner sur les tarifs de taxi delhi agra la nuit.?
Et si les bureaux de taxi prepaid sont ouvert a 22h a l'aéroport ?
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J'me pose une question, toi et ta copine vous comptez dormir quand dans cette histoire ?
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
Bonsoir,
Les bureaux de taxi prepaid sont ouverts toute la nuit . Mais je n'irais pas à Agra tout de suite .
Si tu as 48 heures en Inde , et que c'est la première fois , je pense que tu ferais mieux de dormir d'abord quelques heures à Delhi dans un hôtel ou guesthouse où tu auras réservé et demandé que l'on vienne t'attendre à l'aéroport . Le matin, tu te lèves tôt et tu pars à Agra . Une fois à Agra, tu te poses, tu visites le Fort Rouge, tu passes une bonne nuit . Puis le deuxième matin, tu visites le Taj Mahal tôt, comme tu le souhaites , puis tu repars vers Delhi .
Je ne suis guère fan de l'option voiture avec chauffeur , mais dans ce cas-ci, je la trouve appropriée . A toi de voir .
Les bureaux de taxi prepaid sont ouverts toute la nuit . Mais je n'irais pas à Agra tout de suite .
Si tu as 48 heures en Inde , et que c'est la première fois , je pense que tu ferais mieux de dormir d'abord quelques heures à Delhi dans un hôtel ou guesthouse où tu auras réservé et demandé que l'on vienne t'attendre à l'aéroport . Le matin, tu te lèves tôt et tu pars à Agra . Une fois à Agra, tu te poses, tu visites le Fort Rouge, tu passes une bonne nuit . Puis le deuxième matin, tu visites le Taj Mahal tôt, comme tu le souhaites , puis tu repars vers Delhi .
Je ne suis guère fan de l'option voiture avec chauffeur , mais dans ce cas-ci, je la trouve appropriée . A toi de voir .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Oublie d'aller à Agra par la route la nuit, c'est tout simplement suicidaire !
En plus, avec le décalage horaire, et le choc à l'arrivée, tu auras besoin de quelques heures de sommeil en arrivant. Suis les conseils, un dodo à Delhi, et pars le matin pour Agra, ou dans l'après-midi, passe la nuit là-bas si tu veux absolument le lever su soleil, et prends ton temps, deux jours, c'est tellement court !
Je crois que tu n'as pas trop compris tout ce qu'on essaie de te dire :
1ère fois en Inde, arrivée de nuit, rien de réservé....ce sont une partie des ingrédients qui vont t'emmener droit dans le mur...sans vouloir t'affoler inutilement, les voyageurs comme toi, c'est pile ce que guettent les arnaqueurs de tout poil.
Le bureau prepaid est ouvert toute la nuit mais ils sont prévus pour faire les navettes aéroport-Delhi, c'est tout. Tu trouveras sans doute facilement un taxi "normal" (en Inde tout est possible) pour te conduire à Agra, mais ton inexpérience et ton "empressement" vont ouvrir le champ à toutes les arnaques.
Tu aurais dû plus regarder les guides papier ou internet, tu aurais vu que la première règle en Inde est de ne jamais prendre la route de nuit : un grand nombre de véhicules, outre qu'ils conduisent comme des malades, n'ont pas de phares et prennent régulièrement les highways à contre-sens; de plus, comme te l'a dit Milou (qui vit là bas) la route Delhi-Agra est une des pires d'Inde.
Vous êtes quelques uns comme ça à demander des conseils, à nous remercier chaleureusement quand vous en donne et....à ne pas en tenir compte; alors, maintenant, tu m'as l'air assez grand (et âgé!) pour faire ce que tu avais décidé de faire...alors fais comme tu veux, ça sera parfait....
1ère fois en Inde, arrivée de nuit, rien de réservé....ce sont une partie des ingrédients qui vont t'emmener droit dans le mur...sans vouloir t'affoler inutilement, les voyageurs comme toi, c'est pile ce que guettent les arnaqueurs de tout poil.
Le bureau prepaid est ouvert toute la nuit mais ils sont prévus pour faire les navettes aéroport-Delhi, c'est tout. Tu trouveras sans doute facilement un taxi "normal" (en Inde tout est possible) pour te conduire à Agra, mais ton inexpérience et ton "empressement" vont ouvrir le champ à toutes les arnaques.
Tu aurais dû plus regarder les guides papier ou internet, tu aurais vu que la première règle en Inde est de ne jamais prendre la route de nuit : un grand nombre de véhicules, outre qu'ils conduisent comme des malades, n'ont pas de phares et prennent régulièrement les highways à contre-sens; de plus, comme te l'a dit Milou (qui vit là bas) la route Delhi-Agra est une des pires d'Inde.
Vous êtes quelques uns comme ça à demander des conseils, à nous remercier chaleureusement quand vous en donne et....à ne pas en tenir compte; alors, maintenant, tu m'as l'air assez grand (et âgé!) pour faire ce que tu avais décidé de faire...alors fais comme tu veux, ça sera parfait....
Bonjour. Le guichet des prepaid taxis est ouvert 24h/24. Tu peux demander un taxi pour Agra. Je n'ai pas le prix, mais en principe il n'y a pas d'arnaque. Les "prepaid" ont justement été créés pour échapper aux arnaques des taxis privés. Le tarif de nuit est majoré de 25%.
Par curiosité, il y a trois ans, en arrivant à 4h du matin, j'avais demandé si je pouvais avoir un taxi pour Manali. Le guichetier m'avait répondu oui. Et j'avais demandé le prix : 9100 Rs, ce qui me semblait correct pour les 12h de route (17h en bus).
Tout ça pour dire que c'est faisable.
Les trains indiens sont pleins 1 voir 2 mois avant leur départ et la ligne Delhi-Agra est très prisée
De mon côté, j'ai pris un train Delhi-Agra en achetant mon billet juste avant de monter dedans, ça m'a coûté 50 roupies. Je doute fort que les indiens réservent deux mois l'avance quand ils doivent prendre le train ! Avec ma courte expérience de voyage en Inde (2 semaines au Rajasthan, 3 au Ladakh, 2 au Kerala et 1 Agra/Delhi. Toujours exclusivement en transport public), j'ai l'impression que l'on peut prendre un train sans avoir réserver à l'avance. Ce sont des trains locaux, moins confortable, mais meilleur marché et bien plus sympa/orignal/conviviale !
Pour la sécurité, je ne sais pas, mais je pense que de nuit, ce n'est vraiment pas une bonne idée.
Je ne suis guère fan de l'option voiture avec chauffeur , mais dans ce cas-ci, je la trouve appropriée . A toi de voir .
Pareil, pas fan du tout (et jamais pratiqué), mais avec 48h en Inde, je te la conseille. Tu va perdre trop de temps en transport en commun. Evidement, je conseille aussi de dormir à Delhi et de partir tôt le lendemain matin pour Agra. Les taxis prépaid sont une bonne solution (300/400 INR je crois) car les bus ne doivent plus rouler à ces heures (<100 INR)
De mon côté, j'ai pris un train Delhi-Agra en achetant mon billet juste avant de monter dedans, ça m'a coûté 50 roupies. Je doute fort que les indiens réservent deux mois l'avance quand ils doivent prendre le train ! Avec ma courte expérience de voyage en Inde (2 semaines au Rajasthan, 3 au Ladakh, 2 au Kerala et 1 Agra/Delhi. Toujours exclusivement en transport public), j'ai l'impression que l'on peut prendre un train sans avoir réserver à l'avance. Ce sont des trains locaux, moins confortable, mais meilleur marché et bien plus sympa/orignal/conviviale !
Pour la sécurité, je ne sais pas, mais je pense que de nuit, ce n'est vraiment pas une bonne idée.
Je ne suis guère fan de l'option voiture avec chauffeur , mais dans ce cas-ci, je la trouve appropriée . A toi de voir .
Pareil, pas fan du tout (et jamais pratiqué), mais avec 48h en Inde, je te la conseille. Tu va perdre trop de temps en transport en commun. Evidement, je conseille aussi de dormir à Delhi et de partir tôt le lendemain matin pour Agra. Les taxis prépaid sont une bonne solution (300/400 INR je crois) car les bus ne doivent plus rouler à ces heures (<100 INR)
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Puis arriver fatiguée et décalée à minuit dans le chaos d'une gare à Delhi
C'est peut -être plus dangereux pour une jeune femme que pour un homme de 97 ans!
C'est peut -être plus dangereux pour une jeune femme que pour un homme de 97 ans!
Prix d'un taxi privé pour Agra :
http://www.worldtaximeter.com/new-delhi/delhi+airport/taj+mahal%2Cagra
D'après le copyright en bas de page, c'est le prix 2013. ?.
http://www.worldtaximeter.com/new-delhi/delhi+airport/taj+mahal%2Cagra
D'après le copyright en bas de page, c'est le prix 2013. ?.
Rien ne sert de courir en Inde, le pays est éprouvant
Pourtant ils sont nombreux à vouloir tester leur endurance; moi je les encourage! les nuits dans les bus et les trains c'est formateur quand même!
Pourtant ils sont nombreux à vouloir tester leur endurance; moi je les encourage! les nuits dans les bus et les trains c'est formateur quand même!
De mon côté, j'ai pris un train Delhi-Agra en achetant mon billet juste avant de monter dedans, ça m'a coûté 50 roupies.
Comme toi, j'ai pris quelques trains au dernier moment, billet acheté moins d'1 h avant le départ. Dont en wagon "General" plusieurs fois.
Première expérience agréable entre Gorakhpur et Varanasi, bien ventilé, car je m'étais installé sur un porte-bagage en l'absence de places assises. Entre Mahoba et Khajuraho, j'aurais même pu avoir un compartiment pour moi tout seul, car c'est le tronçon final de la ligne. Un court trajet en 3A entre Ajmer et Chittorgarh. Et enfin, un trajet de nuit en FC entre Jaisalmer et Bikaner, seul dans tout un wagon.
Mais les autres expériences en "General" furent... Comment dire ? Délicates ? Contraignantes ? Instructives ?
D'abord, il faut pouvoir entrer dans le wagon, généralement bondé. Mais tellement bondé que cela déborde sur le marche-pied. Plus bondé que le métro parisien à l'heure de pointe. La première fois, j'ai renoncé. Les suivantes, j'ai fait "à l'indienne", à savoir sauter sur le marche-pied alors que le train entre juste à quai. Ainsi, une fois le train à l'arrêt, on est aux premières places pour remplacer les passagers qui descendent à cette gare. Ne pas avoir l'illusion d'avoir une place assise. Encore une fois, on est plus serré que dans le métro parisien à l'heure de pointe.
Je doute fort que les indiens réservent deux mois l'avance quand ils doivent prendre le train !
La règle dans les trains indiens, c'est la saturation. Des places libres, c'est la situation d'exception, généralement sur une portion de ligne peu fréquentée ou un jour exceptionnel. Ou peut-être en arrivant à l'avance à la gare de départ (sans doute ton cas entre Delhi et Agra)
Dès que l'on est sur une ligne fréquentée (généralement le cas entre sites touristiques), il est hautement conseillé de réserver, ne serait-ce qu'en classe SL. Raison pour laquelle les indiens réservent des semaines à l'avance. Les trains indiens sont suffisamment saturés pour que le site web officiel présente le niveau de réservation du train jour par jour sur les semaines à venir.
Ce sont des trains locaux, moins confortable, mais meilleur marché et bien plus sympa/orignal/conviviale !
Entièrement d'accord. Et j'ai beaucoup aimé. Sous réserve de pouvoir accéder au wagon et de pouvoir y trouver une place assise. Entre Delhi et Agra, c'est un peu long de rester toujours debout. Je l'ai fait 2 fois, et même mémorable, ce n'est quand même l'expérience la plus délicieuse.
Fabrice
Comme toi, j'ai pris quelques trains au dernier moment, billet acheté moins d'1 h avant le départ. Dont en wagon "General" plusieurs fois.
Première expérience agréable entre Gorakhpur et Varanasi, bien ventilé, car je m'étais installé sur un porte-bagage en l'absence de places assises. Entre Mahoba et Khajuraho, j'aurais même pu avoir un compartiment pour moi tout seul, car c'est le tronçon final de la ligne. Un court trajet en 3A entre Ajmer et Chittorgarh. Et enfin, un trajet de nuit en FC entre Jaisalmer et Bikaner, seul dans tout un wagon.
Mais les autres expériences en "General" furent... Comment dire ? Délicates ? Contraignantes ? Instructives ?
D'abord, il faut pouvoir entrer dans le wagon, généralement bondé. Mais tellement bondé que cela déborde sur le marche-pied. Plus bondé que le métro parisien à l'heure de pointe. La première fois, j'ai renoncé. Les suivantes, j'ai fait "à l'indienne", à savoir sauter sur le marche-pied alors que le train entre juste à quai. Ainsi, une fois le train à l'arrêt, on est aux premières places pour remplacer les passagers qui descendent à cette gare. Ne pas avoir l'illusion d'avoir une place assise. Encore une fois, on est plus serré que dans le métro parisien à l'heure de pointe.
Je doute fort que les indiens réservent deux mois l'avance quand ils doivent prendre le train !
La règle dans les trains indiens, c'est la saturation. Des places libres, c'est la situation d'exception, généralement sur une portion de ligne peu fréquentée ou un jour exceptionnel. Ou peut-être en arrivant à l'avance à la gare de départ (sans doute ton cas entre Delhi et Agra)
Dès que l'on est sur une ligne fréquentée (généralement le cas entre sites touristiques), il est hautement conseillé de réserver, ne serait-ce qu'en classe SL. Raison pour laquelle les indiens réservent des semaines à l'avance. Les trains indiens sont suffisamment saturés pour que le site web officiel présente le niveau de réservation du train jour par jour sur les semaines à venir.
Ce sont des trains locaux, moins confortable, mais meilleur marché et bien plus sympa/orignal/conviviale !
Entièrement d'accord. Et j'ai beaucoup aimé. Sous réserve de pouvoir accéder au wagon et de pouvoir y trouver une place assise. Entre Delhi et Agra, c'est un peu long de rester toujours debout. Je l'ai fait 2 fois, et même mémorable, ce n'est quand même l'expérience la plus délicieuse.
Fabrice
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salut la compagnie. desolé de donner des nouvelles que maintenant. alors j'ai bien été en inde et vous aviez raison. c'est de la folie de vouloir prendre la route de dehli agra la nuit. moi et mon amie sommes arrivés la nuit à new dehli et nous avons pris un taxi prépayé pour nous rendre à notre hotel de paharganj dans le vieux dehli. et paf on s'est fait prendre par un autre taxi qui nous à arnaqué. il à refusé de nous ramener jusqu'a notre hotel en nous affirmant que le quartier de notre hotel était bouclé etc. il nous arreté dans un quartier de dehli devant un endroit ou il nous a fait croire que c'était une sorte d'office du tourisme, ou il y avait une bande d'une quinzaine d'indiens . j'ai bien cru que mon voyage en inde allait se terminer comme ca. moi et mon amie nous nous sommes enfuis en vitesse avec nos bagages et avons pris un rickshaw pour finir la course. et ca été comme ca pendant pratiquement tout le temps du séjour en inde. trop d'arnaques. ceux qui vont en inde méfiez vous et soyez sur vos gardes. sans devenir totalement parano mais soyez trés prudent .
merci pour vos conseils
merci pour vos conseils
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désolée pour cette expérience, ça c'est le côté pas cool d'être touriste à Delhi ! Moi qui n'en suis pas (mais c'est pas marqué sur mon front), je peux parfois devenir agressive face à ce genre de comportement, et plains les touristes ! De plus, ces rabatteurs font une mauvaise réputation au pays, c'est une véritable plaie ! Il faut toujours rester très ferme et sur ses gardes, on ne fait pas ami/ami avec les premier venu, ni le deuxième d'ailleurs 😉, rien n'est gratuit !
PS : pour moi, Paharganj est le pire endroit pour atterrir à Delhi, même les indiens ne comprennent pas ce que les touristes vont faire là, à part pour les hôtels minables et les vendeurs d'éléphants roses, mais c'est le meilleur endroit pour se faire arnaquer surtout si on est inexpérimenté avec ce genre de faune.
PS : pour moi, Paharganj est le pire endroit pour atterrir à Delhi, même les indiens ne comprennent pas ce que les touristes vont faire là, à part pour les hôtels minables et les vendeurs d'éléphants roses, mais c'est le meilleur endroit pour se faire arnaquer surtout si on est inexpérimenté avec ce genre de faune.
oui Milou tu a raison c'est une veritable plaie pour le tourisme en inde. je comprend pourquoi l'inde a une si mauvaise réputation en matiere de tourisme. face a tout ces arnaques j'ai vu des touristes francais peter les plombs et je les comprends !!! trop d'arnaque en tout genre. tu imagines que pour acheter un simple billet de train c'était mission impossible ! moi et mon amie on a meme pas pu approcher le guichet, a peine tu te diriges vers le guichet quelqu'un t'attrape et te renvoie vers un soi dizant bureau gouvernemental. c'est la premiere fois que je vois tant d'arnaques avec une telle ampleur. je suis parti de l'inde avec une drole d'impression. mefiez vous !!!!!
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oui, pour les billets, heureusement, je n'avais pas à les chercher
moi-même, mais les rares fois où j'ai du le faire, je faisais comme les autres, j'écartais les coudes, écrasais les pieds, passais devant les autres, et me sentais mal après d'agir comme ça !!!mais c'est le seul moyen !
oui Milou tu a raison c'est une veritable plaie pour le tourisme en inde. je comprend pourquoi l'inde a une si mauvaise réputation en matiere de tourisme. face a tout ces arnaques j'ai vu des touristes francais peter les plombs et je les comprends !!! trop d'arnaque en tout genre. tu imagines que pour acheter un simple billet de train c'était mission impossible ! moi et mon amie on a meme pas pu approcher le guichet, a peine tu te diriges vers le guichet quelqu'un t'attrape et te renvoie vers un soi dizant bureau gouvernemental. c'est la premiere fois que je vois tant d'arnaques avec une telle ampleur. je suis parti de l'inde avec une drole d'impression. mefiez vous !!!!!
Mission impossible !? Bein moi j'ai fais la queue à la gare de Delhi, j'étais pourtant le seul européen : j'ai payé mon billet 52 roupies (0.60€) pour Agra comme tous les indiens. On n'a pas cherché à me vendre la première classe, on ne m'a pas adressé à un bureau de je ne sais trop quoi : que des gens aimables et sympas. Personne m'a dit d'aller ailleurs. Comme je ne trouvais pas la voie de départ, un jeune homme qui allait aussi à Agra m'a aidé. On a fait le trajet ensemble entassé dans un wagon bondé, mais très sympa. Une super expérience. (Bon je te l'accord ça joue un peu des coudes, mais c'est bien tout)
Mission impossible !? Bein moi j'ai fais la queue à la gare de Delhi, j'étais pourtant le seul européen : j'ai payé mon billet 52 roupies (0.60€) pour Agra comme tous les indiens. On n'a pas cherché à me vendre la première classe, on ne m'a pas adressé à un bureau de je ne sais trop quoi : que des gens aimables et sympas. Personne m'a dit d'aller ailleurs. Comme je ne trouvais pas la voie de départ, un jeune homme qui allait aussi à Agra m'a aidé. On a fait le trajet ensemble entassé dans un wagon bondé, mais très sympa. Une super expérience. (Bon je te l'accord ça joue un peu des coudes, mais c'est bien tout)
Pour des topos de treks et des informations précises sur les pays que j'ai visités, rendez-vous sur mon blog : https://treketvoyages.com/.
Il fonctionne comme un modeste guide de voyage et non comme un récit de voyage.
Pour me suivre en photo : https://www.instagram.com/julien_trek/
Pour me suivre en photo : https://www.instagram.com/julien_trek/
Mêmes expériences que Julien, pas à Delhi mais à Lucknow, Gorakhpur, Varanasi, Chitrakoot, Mahoba, Jhansi, Mathura, Ajmer, Jodhpur, Jaisalmer, Jaipur, et Agra in fine pour retour à Delhi.
Je n'ai pas souvenir d'avoir jamais été sollicité par un harceleur escroc. Par contre, dans le hall de la gare de Jhansi, un inconnu m'a excellemment renseigné quant aux horaires des trains Jhansi -> Bhopal. J'imaginais avoir affaire à un agent des chemins de fer, mais c'était en fait un rickshaw wallah. Qui ne m'a même pas proposé une course en ville pour passer le temps en attendant pour tardif train de nuit (j'avais déjà réservé, mais ayant terminé mes visites en avance, j'espérais prendre un train plus tôt).
A noter qu'il n'est pas rare que la billetterie informatisée soit vraiment en-dehors de la gare ferroviaire, jusqu'à plus d'1 km (cas de Gorakhpur).
Delhi est sans doute un peu particulière du fait de la masse humaine d'une mégapole indienne et de la concentration d'escrocs à l'affût de touristes néophytes. L'ITB (International Travel Bureau) de la gare NDLS est la solution la plus confortable. Pendant l'attente, on peut aller manger au modeste buffet de la gare, juste en face au même étage.
Fabrice
Je n'ai pas souvenir d'avoir jamais été sollicité par un harceleur escroc. Par contre, dans le hall de la gare de Jhansi, un inconnu m'a excellemment renseigné quant aux horaires des trains Jhansi -> Bhopal. J'imaginais avoir affaire à un agent des chemins de fer, mais c'était en fait un rickshaw wallah. Qui ne m'a même pas proposé une course en ville pour passer le temps en attendant pour tardif train de nuit (j'avais déjà réservé, mais ayant terminé mes visites en avance, j'espérais prendre un train plus tôt).
A noter qu'il n'est pas rare que la billetterie informatisée soit vraiment en-dehors de la gare ferroviaire, jusqu'à plus d'1 km (cas de Gorakhpur).
Delhi est sans doute un peu particulière du fait de la masse humaine d'une mégapole indienne et de la concentration d'escrocs à l'affût de touristes néophytes. L'ITB (International Travel Bureau) de la gare NDLS est la solution la plus confortable. Pendant l'attente, on peut aller manger au modeste buffet de la gare, juste en face au même étage.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
On vous a déposés devant un soi-disant "office du tourisme" en pleine nuit ?
Au début, vous parliez de n'aller que deux jours en Inde pour voir le Taj Mahal . Qu'avez-vous visité finalement , et combien de temps êtes-vous restés ?
Au début, vous parliez de n'aller que deux jours en Inde pour voir le Taj Mahal . Qu'avez-vous visité finalement , et combien de temps êtes-vous restés ?
" Vas où le vent te mène , vas "
moi et mon amie on a meme pas pu approcher le guichet, a peine tu te diriges vers le guichet quelqu'un t'attrape et te renvoie vers un soi dizant bureau gouvernemental
C'est pourtant pas compliqué: il suffit de dire "non". Pour approcher du guichet, il suffit de rester dans la queue et d'attendre son tour (en veillant bien sûr à ne pas laisser passer trop de personnes devant soi).
C'est pourtant pas compliqué: il suffit de dire "non". Pour approcher du guichet, il suffit de rester dans la queue et d'attendre son tour (en veillant bien sûr à ne pas laisser passer trop de personnes devant soi).
mwoui , en effet, pas besoin d'être habitué pour comprendre sur place qu'il suffit de se coller au précédent quand on se trouve dans une file en Inde .
Notre interlocuteur n'a écouté aucun des conseils qui lui ont été donnés pour éviter d'éventuelles mésaventures , puis vient nous dire de faire attention ....😕
Notre interlocuteur n'a écouté aucun des conseils qui lui ont été donnés pour éviter d'éventuelles mésaventures , puis vient nous dire de faire attention ....😕
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Et oui, c'est souvent pareil, on se demande pourquoi les gens viennent demander des conseils si c'est pour tomber dans tous les pièges possibles. Je comprends bien que quand on est pas préparé la première fois, ce genre de choses puissent arriver. Mais c'est facile d'être ferme et de faire comprendre au premier parasite venu qu'on se fout de ce qu'il nous raconte et qu'il trace sa route, surtout quand on sait qu'il 99% de chance que ce soit un plan foireux. Pareil pour ceux qui se font balader dans des hôtels qu'ils n'ont pas choisi, j'ai jamais compris ce truc... Si on reste ferme, le chauffeur finit toujours par céder.
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Hi everyone!
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
I’m planning a short visit to Pokhara around mid-February 2027 (it’ll be my 4th time in Nepal 😊, over 40 years!). I’d like to book a room in advance rather than looking when I arrive. I’ve checked a bit on Bxxking.com and see lots of options. I’m used to scoping out the surroundings of places listed, just to avoid ending up in areas that are either unappealing or far from everything.
So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
Hi there.
I’m used to traveling around Asia, especially India, and I’d love to explore Nepal for about two weeks, stopping in Calcutta.
Backpacking trip, local transport.
Departing from Lyon.
If you’ve got an adventurous spirit and don’t mind taking it slow, get in touch!
I don’t do treks, but I’m a strong walker.
See you soon
Hi there,
After a false start in March 2026 due to my Qatar flights being canceled, I’m rescheduling a trip to Kerala for November. Back in March, I’d booked and paid for the 2-day/1-night trek: Tiger Trail in Periyar National Park. Then I read some terrible reviews about the park. On VF, the reviews are old and don’t mention the Tiger Trail. So, before I book again (I’ve got time), has anyone done it recently and can share their experience and impressions? I’m specifically talking about the Tiger Trail, not the park’s jeep/boat activities, which seem more like an amusement park. Thanks
After a false start in March 2026 due to my Qatar flights being canceled, I’m rescheduling a trip to Kerala for November. Back in March, I’d booked and paid for the 2-day/1-night trek: Tiger Trail in Periyar National Park. Then I read some terrible reviews about the park. On VF, the reviews are old and don’t mention the Tiger Trail. So, before I book again (I’ve got time), has anyone done it recently and can share their experience and impressions? I’m specifically talking about the Tiger Trail, not the park’s jeep/boat activities, which seem more like an amusement park. Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Assam and I’d like to know what type of electrical adapter I need—is it M or D, or both?
Thanks
Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
Thanks, friends!
Gaston
Gaston
Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
We’re planning a trip to Nepal and would love to do a helicopter tour to Everest with Namche Heli Service. Has anyone here used this agency? I can’t seem to find any reviews online. Thanks in advance!
Kloki
Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
Thanks in advance. 😊 Marlène
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.
Hi everyone, Kerala experts (especially Marien!)
In January, I’m planning another trip to Kerala. We’ll arrive in Kochi and travel up the coast by train to Gokarna.
So I’m reaching out to ask if it’s worth stopping for a few days in any of the following spots (not all, of course—just one or two that are really worth it...). From what I’ve seen, few Western tourists stop along this coast, given how little info there is about it:
Mahe, Thalassery, Taliparamba, Nileshwar, Bekal, Kasaragod
I’m not mentioning Kannur because we’ve already been there, specifically Thottada Beach, and we’re familiar with the southern destinations (Trivandrum, Kovalam, etc.).
Thanks for your replies!
Anne