Bonjour,
Nous partons randonner 1 semaine début juillet dans les Lofoten. Comme nous prévoyons faire du camping sauvage j'aimerais savoir si nous pouvons emporter en avion une recharge de 200 g d'isobuthane et des allumettes pour le réchaud à gaz de camping. J'ai tenté d'obtenir une réponse dans un magasin spécialisé mais en vain.
Bonjour,
Nous partons randonner 1 semaine début juillet dans les Lofoten. Comme nous prévoyons faire du camping sauvage j'aimerais savoir si nous pouvons emporter en avion une recharge de 200 g d'isobuthane et des allumettes pour le réchaud à gaz de camping. J'ai tenté d'obtenir une réponse dans un magasin spécialisé mais en vain.
Merci,
Bonjour
il est STRICTEMENT interdit de transporter en soute ou en cabine une recharge meme minime de produit inflammable ou explosif. Donc je crains fort que la recharge d' isobuthane soit interdite à bord d'un avion de ligne commerciale. Le risque elevé d'explosion en vol ( instabilité, choc ou je ne sais quoi ) serait dommage pour vous, entre autre et vos vacances seraient de TRES TRES courte durée si vous voyez ce que je veux dire. 🙁
Par contre, vous pouvez transporter ce produit par fret. Cela vous reviendra peut etre un peu cher 😉
Les allumettes sont acceptées à condition d'etre SUR VOUS et surtout pas en soute.
En resumé, il vous faudra acheter vos produits à votre arrivée.
N'hesitez pas à contacter votre compagnie aérienne pour plus d'information. Sinon, regardez les liens ci dessous. Cela devrait vous aider.
Voici la fiche de ce produit trouvé sur internet à la page 5 du lien suivant :
Transport aérien (ICAO/IATA)
- Désignation officielle de transport
: ISOBUTANE
- Class
: 2.1
- Passenger and Cargo Aircraft
: DO NOT LOAD IN PASSENGER AIRCRAFT.
- Cargo Aircraft only
: Allowed.
- Packing Instruction(s)
: 200
Autres informations relatives au
: Eviter le transport dans des véhicules dont le comp
artiment du chargement n'est
transport
pas séparé de la cabine de conduite.
S'assurer que le conducteur du véhicule connaît les
dangers potentiels du
chargement ainsi que les mesures à prendre en cas d
'accident ou autres
éventualités.
Avant de transporter les récipients :
- S'assurer que les récipients sont fermement arrimé
s.
- S'assurer que le robinet de bouteille est fermé et
ne fuit pas.
- S'assurer que le bouchon de protection de sortie d
u robinet (quand il existe) est
correctement mis en place.
- S'assurer que le dispositif de protection du robin
et (quand il existe) est
correctement mis en place.
- Assurer une ventilation convenable.- Se conformer à la réglementation en v
Et pour finir,
Voici un paragraphe trouvé sur internet :
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ContentPrimary/Learn/HikingAndCamping/StovesAndFuel/ChoosingAStove.jsp?bmLocale=fr_CA
Transport des réchauds et des combustibles
La sécurité ayant été grandement renforcée dans les aéroports, il est probable que les contenants de combustible y soient interceptés. Même les réchauds sont examinés de près. Pour savoir exactement à quoi vous en tenir, il est préférable de communiquer avec votre transporteur aérien.
Votre transporteur aérien peut accepter de transporter des contenants vides n’ayant jamais renfermé de liquide inflammable ou ayant déjà renfermé un liquide inflammable si des mesures adéquates ont été prises pour éliminer le danger. Communiquez avec votre transporteur aérien pour obtenir des instructions précises sur l’élimination des dangers liés aux marchandises dangereuses. La meilleure solution est peut-être d'expédier à votre point d'arrivée des contenants neufs et vides et de les remplir une fois arrivé à destination.
En Norvege, on peut facilement acheter des cartouches de gaz sur place (Il n'en va pas de meme dans tous les pays, et on est alors oblige de choisir un rechaud a petrole).
Comme nous prévoyons faire du camping sauvage j'aimerais savoir si nous pouvons emporter en avion une recharge de 200 g d'isobuthane et des allumettes pour le réchaud à gaz de camping.
Merci,
Absolument interdit de transporter des cartouches de gaz en avion (heureusement !).
Mais aucun problème pour trouver des cartouches d'isobutane en Norvège (magasins de sport par exemple). On aurait du mal à trouver des cartouches du type Camping Gaz, mais on trouve facilement des cartouches à visser. Depuis plusieurs années, nous utilisons un minuscule bruleur SOTO (http://www.amazon.fr/Micro-Regulator-Stove-br%C3%BBleur-r%C3%A9chaud/dp/B00499H9RK ). Il n'est pas donné, mais il fonctionne parfaitement, avec régulateur de flamme et allumeur incorporé : je n'ai jamais regretté de l'avoir acheté.
La dernière fois où j'ai tenté la chose (petite cartouche de camping gaz ...), j' ai trouvé mon bagages (sacoches de vélos) cerclé d'un adhésif rouge portant mention "sécurité" et bien sûr, plus de cartouche à l'intérieur .... Pas d'autres conséquences, mais il vaut mieux prévoir l'achat sur place. (en plus, ils auraient pu se fâcher et retenir mes bagages de soute : j'aurais eu l'air fin à l'arrivée !!!)
Pour allumer, je crois que l'on peut avoir, sur soi, un briquet ou des allumettes ...
Je compte aussi camper en Norvège et utiliser un réchaud, d'accord pour l'acheter sur place, mais est-il possible dans ce cas de le ramener avec soir dans l'avion ?
Seul la cartouche de gaz est interdite en avion, tu peux acheter ton réchaud là-bas et le ramener; ou bien sur aussi l'acheter ici et l'y amener. Mais toujours sans cartouche!
J'ai voyagé à plusieurs reprises avec un Jetboil (Norvège, Canaries, USA), sans aucune difficulté pour les vols, ni pour trouver des cartouches une fois arrivé.
Seul la cartouche de gaz est interdite en avion, tu peux acheter ton réchaud là-bas et le ramener; ou bien sur aussi l'acheter ici et l'y amener. Mais toujours sans cartouche!
J'ai voyagé à plusieurs reprises avec un Jetboil (Norvège, Canaries, USA), sans aucune difficulté pour les vols, ni pour trouver des cartouches une fois arrivé.
D'accord merci beaucoup ! J'ai acheté un réchaud en France. Est-ce que tu sais si les cartouches peu lourdes sont faciles à trouver et quels sont les prix moyens ?
Je n'ai pas eu trop de difficulté à trouver de petites cartouches (100g) en Norvège ; par exemple à Tromso, il y a un magasin de montagne ("Skandinavisk") juste en face de l'église (celle du centre, en bois, pas la cathédrale) où ils les vendent (à visser et à valve).
D'une manière générale, il vaut mieux chercher dans les magasins de montagne/sport.
Quant au prix, j'ai en mémoire une somme équivalente à 4 ou 5€, à peu près la même chose qu'en France donc.
Oh, je pensais qu'elles pesaient généralement 5-10kg pour les plus petites avec un prix de 30 euros, c'est nickel, merci de ces renseignements. Sais-tu combien de fois environ on peut faire chauffer un repas avec ces cartouches de 100gr ?
Je pars dans 3 semaines et normalement, tout est bouclé, plus qu'à commander la nourriture lyophilisée 😉
Pour être précis, les cartouches dites de 100gr contiennent 100gr de gaz et pèsent (pleines) environ 200gr (exemple d'une Primus, ça doit varier d'une marque à l'autre de quelques grammes).
Après, pour la quantité, tout dépendra de ton réchaud. J'utilise un Jetboil, réputé pour être particulièrement efficace (plus d'infos sur cet article de mon site), et une cartouche permet de faire bouillir théoriquement 12 litres (un tout petit peu moins en pratique). Suivant les lyophilisés que tu prends, il faudra plus ou moins d'eau. De ma dernière expérience (lyophilisés Voyager), c'est au maximum 450 mL d'eau par portion.
Je te laisse faire le calcul... une vingtaine de dose de repas par cartouche minimum.
Je reviens de Norvège. J'ai un réchaud Primus et je n'ai eu aucun mal à trouver des cartouches de gaz à Oslo.
J'ai acheté une cartouche au Intersport du centre-ville (Hammersborggata 9, 0181 Oslo, Norvège). Les prix sont là : www.intersport.no/magento/sok?q=primus
Effectivement comme le dit Willemspie la cartouche de 100g et de 230g sont quasiment au même prix. Avec la cartouche de 100g tu peux brûler 60 minutes en théorie. C'est à dire, à la louche, 12 fois 1L. ça rejoint le commentaire précédent de Pefu.
Il y a aussi le bureau d'info/magasin de DNT (le club alpin norvégien) dans le même quartier : Storgata 3, 0155 Oslo, Norvège
Ils vendent cartes et matos. Ils répondent aussi à toutes les questions. Quand j'y étais y'a même un mec qui mettait au point son trekk sur une carte avec un des employés.
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