Merci beaucoup!!
Trek au Chili: Licancabur fermé en octobre-novembre?
by Jeffrey123
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je compte partir 3 mois, faire le Pérou, l'ouest de la Bolivie et remonter vers Lima par le nord du Chili..... J'ai vu sur le forum que le Licancabur était fermé en octobre....y'a une raison??? Il est fermé pour combien de mois??? Est-ce qu'il y a d'autres treks dans le même coin que je pourrais faire au lieu du Licancabur s'il est fermé???
S'il n'est pas fermé...combien de temps dois-je compter pour monter???
Ça dit quoi la température entre septembre et fin novembre.... je sais que c'Est le début de la saison des pluies vers la fin de mon périple....est-ce plus froid ou plus chaud???
Merci beaucoup!!
Merci beaucoup!!
Le monde est tellement grand qu'il est inimaginable de rester chez soi!
Salut!
Je ne peux pas te confirmer l'info sur la fermeture du Licancabur (mais j'avoue que ca m'etonne un peu...), mais pour l'ascension, suivant ta forme physique, compte 7 a 10h aller-retour...Le 4x4 te depose vers 4700m si mes souvenirs sont bons, ce qui fait 1200m de denivele positif.
La periode la plus froide est l'hiver (juin/juillet/aout) car il fait souvent beau (donc tres fort rayonnement nocturne), il fait moins froid au printemps (octobre/novembre) car c'est un peu plus humide...
Mis a part le Licancabur, il y a aussi l'Uturuncu (seul 6000m du Sud Lipez) un peu plus au nord...
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Gilles
La montagne n' est pas dangereuse : on ne peut qu'y perdre la vie, tandis qu'en ville on devient bête et méchant. Voltaire
Pour l'Uturuncu, comment est le degré de difficulté???
Merci!!
Merci!!
Le monde est tellement grand qu'il est inimaginable de rester chez soi!
D'apres ce que j'ai lu, une route monte au moins jusqu'a 5500m voir plus (il y a une mine la-haut d'apres le Lonely Planet), le reste doit pas etre trop dur (je l'ai vu de loin), c'est un cone volcanique (double cone en fait) donc ca doit etre un pierrier...
Le cote negatif du sommet, c'est certes un 6000 mais il n'y a pas la lagune verde a ses pieds comme pour le Licancabur!!! ;-)
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La montagne n' est pas dangereuse : on ne peut qu'y perdre la vie, tandis qu'en ville on devient bête et méchant. Voltaire
merci beaucoup!!
Le monde est tellement grand qu'il est inimaginable de rester chez soi!
D'apres ce que m'avait raconté mon guide la NASA vient faire des etudes tous les ans au sommet du licancabur (il y a d'ailleurs quelques capteurs, anemometre, sondes, etc... plantés dans le cratere), ils disent "que ca ressemble a ce qu'on a vu sur mars!" 😎
Donc ils ferment le site pour bosser tranquille, en general c'est au mois d'octobre mais ca c'est pas sur. Pour grimper le licancabur les gardes du parcs vont te coller un guide meme si tu veux pas. L'ascension au point de vue technique n'a rien de difficile, moi j'ai vecu ca comme "une bonne petite ballade", par contre soit preparé contre le froid et l'altitude. La vue tout au long de la montée est somptueuse!!!
L'Unturucu est peut etre le 6000 le "plus facile du monde" (pas comme le Chachani ou Huayna Potosi qui d'apres le LP le sont!!!), mais bon je l'ai pas fait. On te monte en 4x4 jusqu'a 5500 ou 5600 et apres il reste quelques centaines de metres pour arriver aux 6005m. Par contre j'ai entendu qu'il y a une vue terrible sur la laguna amarillo qu'on ne voit pas depuis le sol.
Bonne route
L'Unturucu est peut etre le 6000 le "plus facile du monde" (pas comme le Chachani ou Huayna Potosi qui d'apres le LP le sont!!!), mais bon je l'ai pas fait. On te monte en 4x4 jusqu'a 5500 ou 5600 et apres il reste quelques centaines de metres pour arriver aux 6005m. Par contre j'ai entendu qu'il y a une vue terrible sur la laguna amarillo qu'on ne voit pas depuis le sol.
Bonne route
T'as aucune chance, alors saisis-la!!!
Quand tu parles d'être préparé contre le froid, la température varie de combien de degrée sur le top??? Ça peut ressembler à quoi fin octobre mi-novembre???
Merci bien!!
Merci bien!!
Le monde est tellement grand qu'il est inimaginable de rester chez soi!
J'avoue que c'est tres difficile de dire combien de degré il faisait exacement. Je n'avais pas mon thermometre avec moi et puis j'ai passé presque 4 mois entre 4000 et 6000m j'ai pu m'habituer un peu au froid donc, et puis c'est un froid tres "sec" peut etre pas comparable on ce qu'on connait en europe et au canada...
mais si je devais comparer je dirais un petit -10. Mais c'est pas la mort. J'avais mon pantalon et mes chaussures de rando toutes simples, j'ai juste eu tres froid aux doigts de pied. Mais d'apres mon guide j'ai eu de la chance il faisait "assez bon" cette nuit la 🤪... et j'y etais debut nov.
T'as aucune chance, alors saisis-la!!!
Quand tu dis: "cette nuit la ", c'est parce que tu as couché en haut??? Alors c'est un 7-10 heures aller et même chose retour exact??? Ou si tu as décider d'y dormir et le 7`à 10 heure de rando c'était l'aller-retour!!!
Parce je pars environ 3 mois et je ne veux pas apporter tout mon équipement d'hiver en plus de celui d'été avec moi!!! En plus de la tente, du matelas, du sleeping-bag etcc...etc...etc.... qu'avais-tu comme manteau?? Seulement un coupe-vent avec un bon gilet ou bien tu traînais ton manteau d'hiver????
En passant, j'suis pas ben ben frileux!!! hahaha
Merci encore!!
Parce je pars environ 3 mois et je ne veux pas apporter tout mon équipement d'hiver en plus de celui d'été avec moi!!! En plus de la tente, du matelas, du sleeping-bag etcc...etc...etc.... qu'avais-tu comme manteau?? Seulement un coupe-vent avec un bon gilet ou bien tu traînais ton manteau d'hiver????
En passant, j'suis pas ben ben frileux!!! hahaha
Merci encore!!
Le monde est tellement grand qu'il est inimaginable de rester chez soi!
"cette nuit la" parce que tu pars du refuge des gardes a 3h et que tu commence a marcher vers 4-5h. Il vaut tjr mieux marcher la nuit, bizarrement il fait moins froid. Des le levé du soleil "les vents solaires" se metent a soufler, et ils sont bien froids, alors que la nuit le vent est minimal. Bon ca c'est ce qu'ils disent moi j'ai pas vraiment senti de difference enorme apres le levé du soleil mais par contre c'est vrai que le soir quand le soleil se couche le vent s'arrete net! C'est assez dingue, a 18h pile! 🤪
Et puis surtout tu vois le levé de soleil sur le Lipez depuis le licancabur et ca crois moi ca vaut tout l'or du monde!
Nous on a mis 5h pour monter depuis le "parking", avec pause toutes les 1/4 d'heure pour admirer la vue. On a marché assez lentement: un couple d'allemand s'etait incrusté le soir d'avant et le type avait un decollement de la retine 😕 donc ils marchaient doucement doucement... et comme on voulait pas les laisser seuls... Pour descendre, a fond dans les graviers avec des pas de 5m: 1h30 je crois! 😄
pour l'ascension moi j'avais: un t-shirt une polaire fine une grosse polaire une veste gore tex deux paires de chaussettes deux paires de pantalons de rando (ils etaient tres fins, je les avait acheté pour l'afrique!) une paire toute normale de chaussures de rando gants et bonnet
et franchement ca allait, a part mes petits petons qui etaient un peu gelé... mais comme dit, mon guide disait qu'il faisait "bon".
Voila pour les infos super pratique!
A+ joachim
Et puis surtout tu vois le levé de soleil sur le Lipez depuis le licancabur et ca crois moi ca vaut tout l'or du monde!
Nous on a mis 5h pour monter depuis le "parking", avec pause toutes les 1/4 d'heure pour admirer la vue. On a marché assez lentement: un couple d'allemand s'etait incrusté le soir d'avant et le type avait un decollement de la retine 😕 donc ils marchaient doucement doucement... et comme on voulait pas les laisser seuls... Pour descendre, a fond dans les graviers avec des pas de 5m: 1h30 je crois! 😄
pour l'ascension moi j'avais: un t-shirt une polaire fine une grosse polaire une veste gore tex deux paires de chaussettes deux paires de pantalons de rando (ils etaient tres fins, je les avait acheté pour l'afrique!) une paire toute normale de chaussures de rando gants et bonnet
et franchement ca allait, a part mes petits petons qui etaient un peu gelé... mais comme dit, mon guide disait qu'il faisait "bon".
Voila pour les infos super pratique!
A+ joachim
T'as aucune chance, alors saisis-la!!!
Milles mercis pour les infos!!!
Jef
Jef
Le monde est tellement grand qu'il est inimaginable de rester chez soi!
c'est tout a fait praticable en aout cher ami!
L'ascension du licancabur pourrait en fait se faire sans guide ni rien, mais le probleme c'est que c'est juste un petit peu loin de la prochaine habitation. Dis moi d'ou tu viens (uyuni ou San Pedro), si tu compte faire le tour du salar et si tu as ton matos (tente, bouffe, sac...) pour le faire seul et je peux t'expliquer la marche a suivre si tu veux.
Mais en fait il n'y a rien a preparer, tu peux tout autant te pointer la bas les mains dans les poches.
Pas besoin de "guide de haute montagne" entrainé sur le mont-blanc a 150$ et un equipement de fou si c'est ce que tu veux savoir.
Pas besoin de "guide de haute montagne" entrainé sur le mont-blanc a 150$ et un equipement de fou si c'est ce que tu veux savoir.
T'as aucune chance, alors saisis-la!!!
je te donne un avis de fille....j ai pedalé sur l altiplano en sept oct il y a quelques temps.relié le parc de sajama à san pedro de atacama à velo.
arrives en velo au refuge pres de la laguna verde de nuit, nous avons dormis une petite nuit (vers mi octobre) il faisait froid. et avons profite d un groupe afin de monter un peu en 4x4, parti a 4 h du matin nous commencons a marcher a la frontale à 5 h et puis c est l ascension lente pour moi, la premiere et en chaussure de rando sans soucis. 5h 30 d ascension et de la magie tout le temps.....
des equipes chiliennes viennent s entrainer queues fois pour plonger dans le cratere. leti
arrives en velo au refuge pres de la laguna verde de nuit, nous avons dormis une petite nuit (vers mi octobre) il faisait froid. et avons profite d un groupe afin de monter un peu en 4x4, parti a 4 h du matin nous commencons a marcher a la frontale à 5 h et puis c est l ascension lente pour moi, la premiere et en chaussure de rando sans soucis. 5h 30 d ascension et de la magie tout le temps.....
des equipes chiliennes viennent s entrainer queues fois pour plonger dans le cratere. leti
celui qui n' a plus de reves est vieux
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I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra