Trouver un guide pour visiter le Sud algérien?
by Jacquestarn
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
Nous sommes un groupe de 3 véhicules 4x4, et sommes à la recherche d'un guide accompagnateur qui voyagerait dans un de nos véhicules.
Le départ est fixé aux alentours du 1 novembre 2010.
D'avance merci pour tous les renseignements que vous pourrez nous donner.
Bonjour
Avez-vous déjà établi votre circuit ? Et quid pour la prise en charge obligatoire pour l'obtention de vos visas (85 €/visa) ?
Selon les dernières informations, il y a des restrictions dans l'extrême sud (région Tam & Djanet) imposées par les militaires. Ca peut changer d'ici là, mais rien n'est certain !
Pour info, je vis une grande partie de l'année au Sahara.
LILI
Avez-vous déjà établi votre circuit ? Et quid pour la prise en charge obligatoire pour l'obtention de vos visas (85 €/visa) ?
Selon les dernières informations, il y a des restrictions dans l'extrême sud (région Tam & Djanet) imposées par les militaires. Ca peut changer d'ici là, mais rien n'est certain !
Pour info, je vis une grande partie de l'année au Sahara.
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
En réponse à Lili
Notre projet, à préciser s'il semble réalisable, serait d'arriver en
> Algérie par Taleb Larbi et descendre vers Djanet avec
> détour par le Tassili des N'ajjers. De Djanet,
> rejoindre Tamanrasset par la piste directe ( Sérouenout) ou par le sud (
> Monts Gautier et Tassili du Hoggar).
Ensuite, mais cela ne paraît pas possible du moins actuellement serait de rejoindre Gao, en partant de Tamanrasset, par Tin-Missao, BBM et Tessalit.
Pour la partie Malienne, nous avons fait l'an dernier la connaissance d'un guide à GAO.
Jacques
Il va falloir être à l'affût des informations, avant de vous y rendre, puisque l'interdiction touche justement cette région entre Djanet et Tam.... Ailleurs ce n'est pas la peine d'y songer vue certains problèmes plus bas...vers le Niger, Mali, ...
Tu peux trouver des articles de presse algérienne qui en parlent... sur Internet... Les agences de tourisme du sud, sont catastrophées...
LILI
Tu peux trouver des articles de presse algérienne qui en parlent... sur Internet... Les agences de tourisme du sud, sont catastrophées...
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
salut jac
oui tu peut trouve des bon guide au sud algerie qui counais tous les place.
pour ton circuit est tres jolie.
Taleb Larbi et descendre vers Djanet avec détour par le Tassili des N'ajjers. De Djanet,
rejoindre Tamanrasset par la piste directe ( Sérouenout) ou par le sud . Monts Gautier et Tassili du Hoggar).tu peut faire cette circuit.
mes la rejoindre Gao, en partant de Tamanrasset, par Tin-Missao, BBM et Tessalit. un peut dificil.
a bientot.
bonjour ,
ya bcoup des guides et agance qui proposes ce service de guide qui voyage dans un de vos 4x4 , mais , pour le programme , pour le moment je pense , que la région de monts Gautier n'es pas ouvert au voyageurs .
compte au mali vous pouvez entrer au mali par le post de tinzaouten mieux , pour rejoindre votre guide malien labas et allez a gao .
j'espere pour vous un bon voyage .
Vue ce qui vient de se passer dans la Wilaya de Tamanrasset, et notamment près de Tinzaouatine - 11 militaires/gendarmes ont été tués par le groupe d'Al Qaida - la situation devient très critique, tant au niveau de la sécurité qu'au niveau des autorisations....
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Vue ce qui vient de se passer dans la Wilaya de Tamanrasset, et notamment près de Tinzaouatine - 11 militaires/gendarmes ont été tués par le groupe d'Al Qaida - la situation devient très critique, tant au niveau de la sécurité qu'au niveau des autorisations....
LILI
J'en suis bien conscient. Encore une mauvaise nouvelle pour nos amis Algériens. Jacques
LILI
J'en suis bien conscient. Encore une mauvaise nouvelle pour nos amis Algériens. Jacques
Vue ce qui vient de se passer dans la Wilaya de Tamanrasset, et notamment près de Tinzaouatine - 11 militaires/gendarmes ont été tués par le groupe d'Al Qaida - LILI
"Oui, apparement c le même Groupe Libéré par les Maliens pr les Beaux Yeux des Français ( en échange de l agent de la DSTE Français)…….Maintenait il recommencent les massacres des Algériens…..😠"
"Oui, apparement c le même Groupe Libéré par les Maliens pr les Beaux Yeux des Français ( en échange de l agent de la DSTE Français)…….Maintenait il recommencent les massacres des Algériens…..😠"
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Je peux te fournir les coordonnés de quelques agences algériennes qui font le sud si tu veux
bonjour ben pour le guide au sud algerien il faut descendre jusqu'au villes du porte du desert vous avez ghardaia ou el golea et meme jusqu'a tamenrasset là vous pourrez trouver votre guide et vous marchandez le tarif.
"😄..Arrete svp.....Il faut avoir un Guide avant la Vallée du Mzab………si non pas de passage vers le Grand Sud….😉".
"😄..Arrete svp.....Il faut avoir un Guide avant la Vallée du Mzab………si non pas de passage vers le Grand Sud….😉".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
exacte , à mon avis il faut plutôt trouver le guide pour y aller je sais que certains attendent leurs clients a l’aéroport d’Alger ou bien au frontières
"Au Poste Frontalier de Taleb Larbi ( El Oued) pas de sortie pr les étrangers sans Guide…….Car c la porte du Sahara……….Pr les autres Postes ( tous sont dans la partie Nord ) les étrangers peuvent entrer en Algérie , mais il peuvent pas accéder au Sahara sans Guide. Ils seront Stoppés net à la porte du Sahara……".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
Attention concernant VF, c'est interdit ! C'est assimilé à de la publicité et donc cela devient payant ici !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Attention concernant VF, c'est interdit ! C'est assimilé à de la publicité et donc cela devient payant ici !
LILI
"Merci de nous le faire rappeler……😉..".
LILI
"Merci de nous le faire rappeler……😉..".
"Chaque Fois que je me trouve a court d Inspiration, je prends mon billet pour le M'Zab". (Le Corbusier) .
J'espere que pour vous la situation se calmera d'ici là. Car pour l'instant le tourisme saharien est au bas de l'echelle. Les risque sont present. Et cahcun des etats fait sont effort intermitent. ce qui permet au bandits de se rendre chez l'un ou l'autre...
En tous cas les guides ne manqueront pas car il n'y a pas de demande de leur services.
Cela est revoltant de voir plusieurs etat en 2010 etre à la merci d'une poignée d'hommes. J'espere que les reunions entre ces differents etats aboutirons a un accord qui pourra reprimer dans tous les sens du mots toutes nuissances au populations et a leurs hotes.
Le tourisme est de loin l'economie des peuple du sahara. Le petrole, l'uranium... sont pour les autres.
J'espere que pour vous la situation se calmera d'ici là. Car pour l'instant le tourisme saharien est au bas de l'echelle. Les risque sont present. Et cahcun des etats fait sont effort intermitent. ce qui permet au bandits de se rendre chez l'un ou l'autre...
En tous cas les guides ne manqueront pas car il n'y a pas de demande de leur services.
Cela est revoltant de voir plusieurs etat en 2010 etre à la merci d'une poignée d'hommes. J'espere que les reunions entre ces differents etats aboutirons a un accord qui pourra reprimer dans tous les sens du mots toutes nuissances au populations et a leurs hotes.
Le tourisme est de loin l'economie des peuple du sahara. Le petrole, l'uranium... sont pour les autres.
Merci "Agadez" pour ta réponse, En effet comme tu le dis si bien, c'est vraiment triste que les populations soient en fait prises en otage par les agisssements d'une minorité. Nous restons à l'affut de toutes les informations, avant de prendre une décision. Cordialement, Jacques
Merci "Agadez" pour ta réponse, En effet comme tu le dis si bien, c'est vraiment triste que les populations soient en fait prises en otage par les agisssements d'une minorité. Nous restons à l'affut de toutes les informations, avant de prendre une décision. Cordialement, Jacques
Bonsoir,
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Bonsoir,
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Bonjour Abderrahmane, Oui notre projet est toujours d'actualité, mais nous attendons le dernier moment pour nous décider, compte tenu des nombreuses interdictions de circuler dans le grand sud Algérien. Cordialement, Jacques
Je voulais savoir si vous cherchez toujours un guide accompagnateur pour vous faire visiter le sud algérien, et si vous voulez toujours passer par djanet pour aller jusqu'à Tamenrasset car connaissant le sud cet endroit peut-être dangereux (djanet) par les faits qui se sont passée la-bas et qui se passent encore aujourd'hui. Cordialement, Abderrahmane
Bonjour Abderrahmane, Oui notre projet est toujours d'actualité, mais nous attendons le dernier moment pour nous décider, compte tenu des nombreuses interdictions de circuler dans le grand sud Algérien. Cordialement, Jacques
Je comprends c'est la meilleure des solutions pour l'instant. Au cas où s'ils vous arrivaient de changer votre parcours je pourrais vous proposez de vous faire visitez la ville d'El oued si vous n'avez jamais mi les pieds, une très belle ville avec un désert très surprenant qui se situe pas très loin de Taleb Larbi.
Cordialement,
Abderrahmane
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2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!




