Vaccins et traitement contre le paludisme pour la Tanzanie
by Karilaur
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous partons fin Décembre 2008 pour faire un safari en Tanzanie + Zanzibar. Qu'en est-il actuellement concernant le vaccin de la fièvre jaune ? Est-il nécessaire de le faire ?
D'autre part, en ce qui concerne les traitements pour le palu : cela nous fait un peu peur car pour moi le Lariam c'est pas la peine, c'est non tout de suite, la dernière fois que j'ai pris cette cochonnerie, j'étais à moitié folle. J'ai pris aussi de la Malarone qui m'a donné des aphtes impressionnants dans la bouche ce qui m'a fortement gâché toutes mes vacances. Vu le paquet de moustiques qu'il doit y avoir dans cette région classée 3 : je ne sais pas quoi faire ?
J'attends vos témoignages.
Merci à vous
Il parait que pour la Zone 3 la Doxycycline c'est très bien : bien supporté, effets secondaires très rares...En tout cas c'est peut-être le moins pire.
A la base c'est un médicaments prescrit en France pour le traitement de l'acné mais ça marche pour le palu car les molècules inhibent la croissance et la multiplication des bactéries pathogènes.
Et comme c'est un générique (délivré par ordonnance toutefois) il est aussi moins cher.
Le mieux est de voir avec un médecin compétent pour ce genre de choses...
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Axance
Bon voyage
Axance
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Nous arrivons juste de Tanzanie ou nous avons passé 4 semaines ; nous prenions du malarone (sans aucun effets secondaires) mais nous nous demandions parfois si c'était bien utile car nous n'avons pas vu le moindre moustique (ni sur zanzibar) et n'avons pas eu de piqures d'insectec non plus. Nous avons croisé des personnes qui ne prenaient pas de traitement ; par contre il faut appliquer les préventions d'usage, vêtements traités et spray anti-moustiques dès la tombée de la nuit ou au petit matin et moustiquaires pour dormir ; j'avais mis aussi des petites boules jaunes (vente en pharmacie) d'anti-moustiques accrochées à nos sacs de journée ... je ne sais pas si c'est tout cela cumulé mais nous n'avons eu aucun souci.
Vous passerez surement un bon séjour... faut pas se tromper sur le choix de l'agence pour le safari... ce qui n'a pas été notre cas... hélas.
bien à vous
Biky
Jouer avec sa santé juste pour des vacances, ce serait trop bête. Il y a 15 jours, bbirdy a mis ce lien sur le forum... clique sur la section carte c'est un site très complet sur le paludisme en Afrique, pays par pays, mois après mois : www.mara.org.za.
Je pense qu'il ne faut pas oublier que le palud reste la 1ere cause de mortalite en Afrique, mais il est vrai que certains medicaments n'arrangent pas la situation. Vivant en Tanz, je peux dire qu'il y a encore beaucoup de moustiques, alors quand on vient d'Europe, il vaut mieux prendre quelques precautions, mais cela depend aussi de l'organisme de chacun; La chloroquine perturbait l'audition et ca jouait sur l'equilibre. L'Halfan est acceptable, mais ce qui se fait beaucoup ce sont les med a base d'artemisine; etant un produit naturel, c'est moins compromettant que les chimiques et surtout moins cher.
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Nous sommes partis en Asie en Janvier dernier avec un traitement de Malarone. Nous ne l'avons pas pris car il n'y avait que peu de risque en cette periode. Nous cherchons à revendre deux plaquettes de 12 pillules, date d'exp 06.2011. Nous pouvons l'envoyer par la poste. Avis aux interressés.
Sophie et Julien
Nous sommes partis en Asie en Janvier dernier avec un traitement de Malarone. Nous ne l'avons pas pris car il n'y avait que peu de risque en cette periode. Nous cherchons à revendre deux plaquettes de 12 pillules, date d'exp 06.2011. Nous pouvons l'envoyer par la poste. Avis aux interressés.
cette proposition part probablement d'un bon sentiment mais est, en France, totalement illégale
cette proposition part probablement d'un bon sentiment mais est, en France, totalement illégale
desolé, je ne savais pas...C'est juste que c'est dommage car les pharmacies ne reprennennt les medocs que pour la destruction. Alors autant faire autrement et que ca profite a quelqu'un d'autrev mais si c'est illegal ... je retir ma proposition....Voila +
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1/exercice illégal de la pharmacie article L4211-1 et L4243-1 du CSP: 1 an d'emprisonnement et 15000 euros d'amende
2/ la Malarone est inscrite sur la liste 1 des substances "vénéneuses", "produits présentant un risque élevé pour la santé ou toxiques", nécessitant une prescription médicale et dont la délivrance par les pharmaciens est soumise à des règles très strictes (tenue d'un registre, ...)
application de l'article L5432-1 du CSP: 2 ans d'emprisonnement et 3750 euros d'amende, plus l'engagement de la responsabilité pénale en cas d'incident/accident (mauvaise tolérance ou autre...)
voilà. Je cite la loi, sans aucune prise de position personnelle sur sa pertinence...
par ailleurs, je ne conseille à personne d'acheter des médicaments sur le Net, car la contrefaçon pharmaceutique existe. Au mieux, la contrefaçon est inefficace, au pire elle est toxique...
voilà. Je cite la loi, sans aucune prise de position personnelle sur sa pertinence...
par ailleurs, je ne conseille à personne d'acheter des médicaments sur le Net, car la contrefaçon pharmaceutique existe. Au mieux, la contrefaçon est inefficace, au pire elle est toxique...
desolé, je ne savais pas...C'est juste que c'est dommage car les pharmacies ne reprennennt les medocs que pour la destruction...
la collecte à visée humanitaire est supprimée depuis février 2007
la collecte à visée humanitaire est supprimée depuis février 2007
Encore un coup de gueule pour m'etonner que l'on en reste encore et toujours aux medicaments tous "pourris et inneficaces" dans le traitement du palludisme le bon sens l'emportera t-il?
D'abord et avant tout se couvrir dormir dans une moustiquaire impregnée d'une huile de preference (voir plus bas) ou d'un fort repulsif et arreter de faire de la surenchere de tel ou tel medicament la souche du moustique ne fera que se renforcer avec vos betises et la population locale crevera comme des mouches ce qui n'a pas eté toujours le cas dans le passé...
Pour eviter la reponse alors comment je fais ????
Voir peut etre selon votre implication dans le choix des Huiles esentielles, je ne suis pas medecin donc a vous de vous investir dans votre santé et dans une recherche personnelle plus naturelle pour y parvenir, bon courage.
WHALLABABOU.
"Ainsi le touriste se deplace, mais sa presence est avant tout terriblement déplacée".
"Ainsi le touriste se deplace, mais sa presence est avant tout terriblement déplacée".
desolé, je ne savais pas...C'est juste que c'est dommage car les pharmacies ne reprennennt les medocs que pour la destruction...
la collecte à visée humanitaire est supprimée depuis février 2007
Dommage pour la visée humanitaire.
il était peut-être effectivement temps de réglementer un temps soit peu.
la collecte à visée humanitaire est supprimée depuis février 2007
Dommage pour la visée humanitaire.
il était peut-être effectivement temps de réglementer un temps soit peu.
En l'absence d'un tri correct préalable, arrivaient des médicaments sans intérêt, périmés, ou avec des notices dans une langue incompréhensible. Les pays qui les recevaient devaient mettre en place une filière pour les détruire (en pratique les incinérer) et ça leur rajoutait un problème de plus...
je ne me prononcerai pas sur cette question et sur le rôle éventuel des groupes pharmaceutiques internationaux dans cette décision 🙂
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