Visite du Japon, Osaka, Kyoto et Tokyo
by Marypotter
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Suis nouvelle sur le Forum et ne sais pas trop comment cela fonctionne.
Mon mari et moi, avons un voyage de 10 j programmé au Japon en Novembre;
3jours à OSAKA, 3jours à KYOTO, 4jours à TOKYO
Les jours sont bloqués, non modifiables mais comment faire pour optimiser nos visites ?
C'est notre 1er voyage au Japon Quelqu'un peut il me donner les "top10" comme on dit pour chacune de ces 3 villes ..
Merci d'avance
Bon WE à tous
Marypotter
MaryPotter
Bonjour marypotter
nous partons, ma fille et moi, début novembre également au Japon, mais nous ferons une halte de 4 jours d'abord a Hong Kong. Nous serons a Osaka du 6 au 9 Novembre, ensuite du 9 au 13 a Kyoto et pour finir du 13 au 16 a Tokyo. Avez-vous plus au moins ces mème dates dans votre planning ?. Pour nous aussi ca seras la première fois au Japon. dans quel hotel descendez-vous ? ca srais pas mal d'unir peut-être nos forces, car la langue vas être la partie la plus difficile a gerer je crois comprendre !!!
J'attend de vos nouvelles volontiers
Salutations
et Sayonara ...
tex
Bonjour,
Bien beau voyage en perspective,
J'ai fait un séjour à Osaka Kyoto et c'était super en hiver.
Pour Osaka, j'ai adoré Shinsaibashi, la vue depuis le floating garden observatoire à Umeda, le château d'Osaka (nous avons visité le 1er janvier pendant les fêtes), l'aquarium et la baie d'Osaka. Prend un kansai trhu pass, tu voyages facile, illimité dans Osaka et Kyoto. Passes aussi une journée à Nara, c'est très mignon et faisable tout à pied depuis la gare, un grand parc avec pleins de daims en liberté autour des temples. Kyoto est bien plus vaste en visites, bien sur le pavillon d'or, même si très touristique, le quartier de Gion... C'est facile de faire du tourisme au Japon, bus, visites, même si on ne parle pas japonais.
Bon voyage
Hello
Kyoto est dans la meme metropole d'Osaka (si on dit que Kyoto est dans la banlieue, les Kyotoites pourraient mal le prendre).
A Tokyo, en 4 jours tu as largement le temps de voir "l'essentiel" (Shibuya, Shinjuku, Omotesando, Akihabara, Ueno, Ginza, Asakusa....). Tokyo est plutot une collection de quartiers, il y a quelques "monuments" mais c'est plutot en se balladant que tu apprecieras. En regardant les quelques quartiers que je t'ai cites, tu feras deja un bon tour.
Kyoto en seulement 3 jours, ca pourra etre frustrant car il y a vraiment beaucoup, beaucoup de choses a voir. Sanjusangendo, Kinkakuji, Ginkakuji, Ryoanji, Ninnaji, Higashiyama, Fushimi Inari, chateau de Nijo, Gion, Pontocho... Juste pour ne citer que les "grandes" attractions (Kiyomizudera est en travaux je pense).
Osaka en 3 jours... Apres Tokyo ? c'est une grande ville animee, mais pas aussi grande que Tokyo. Je dirais, passe 1 ou 2 jours au plus a Osaka (Dotonbori, eventuellement le chateau, Nanba et la gare...), et passe une 3eme journee par exemple a Nara, dans la banlieue.
Kyoto est dans la meme metropole d'Osaka (si on dit que Kyoto est dans la banlieue, les Kyotoites pourraient mal le prendre).
A Tokyo, en 4 jours tu as largement le temps de voir "l'essentiel" (Shibuya, Shinjuku, Omotesando, Akihabara, Ueno, Ginza, Asakusa....). Tokyo est plutot une collection de quartiers, il y a quelques "monuments" mais c'est plutot en se balladant que tu apprecieras. En regardant les quelques quartiers que je t'ai cites, tu feras deja un bon tour.
Kyoto en seulement 3 jours, ca pourra etre frustrant car il y a vraiment beaucoup, beaucoup de choses a voir. Sanjusangendo, Kinkakuji, Ginkakuji, Ryoanji, Ninnaji, Higashiyama, Fushimi Inari, chateau de Nijo, Gion, Pontocho... Juste pour ne citer que les "grandes" attractions (Kiyomizudera est en travaux je pense).
Osaka en 3 jours... Apres Tokyo ? c'est une grande ville animee, mais pas aussi grande que Tokyo. Je dirais, passe 1 ou 2 jours au plus a Osaka (Dotonbori, eventuellement le chateau, Nanba et la gare...), et passe une 3eme journee par exemple a Nara, dans la banlieue.
Bonjour,
Nous venons de passer 2 semaines au Japon (15 premiers jours d'octobre).
Seule la ville d'Osaka (à part le château et vite fait le quartier Dotombori) ne nous pas trop plu. Mais si vous devez y passer plusieurs jours, une incursion sur Nara ou Koyasan est possible et pas loin.
Kyoto: les classiques (Pavillons d'Or, d'argent, Nijo) sans oublier les villas impériales (Katsura, notamment); mais il faut un agrément de l'agence impériale pour visiter; on peut le faire par internet. Bien sûr la tour de Kyoto pour se rendre compte globalement et la gare qui mérite un détour. Coup de coeur pour Tofuku Ji ( 5 minutes en JR de la gare centrale ou 25 minutes en bus) véritable havre de paix dans un quartier chic et tranquille.
Tokyo: les classiques (Shinjuku, Shibuya..). Nous avons spécialement aimé le coucher de soleil sur la baie de Tokyo (île artificielle joignable par le mono-rail); nous avons aussi beaucoup aimé le quartier de Yanaka (nord) avec son vieux cimetière, de vieilles maisons, des artisans.... Par contre le marché au poisson, s'il reste ouvert aux touristes, nous ne sommes pas les bienvenus et nous nous sommes faits refouler gentiment mais fermement (et pourtant, nous étions 2 sans appareil photo!).
Bref, nous avons adoré Tokyo, Kyoto, un peu moins Osaka, mais très beau voyage, dans un autre monde fascinant mais pas toujours enviable.
Bon voyage
Bonsoir Tex
Désolée, nos dates ne correspondent pas du tout car nous arrivons avant vous le 2 à Osaka et repartons avant vous le 11 de Tokyo..Par contre je peux vous transmettre la petite astuce du petit Futé le "Lingolook JAPON" appli sur iphone qui permet d'avoir un secours en japonais pour plein de situations courantes...nous venons de l'acheter ..
Autre astuce le pass de train appelé japanrail qui est très interressant suivant les régions (pour osaka kobe kyoto il s'appelle Kanzai JR ) et à acheter à l'avance ..pour des trajets illimités suivant la durée choisie
Bon voyage et profitez bien..
MaryPotter
Les jours malheureusement sont non modifiables .On commence par Osaka, puis Kyoto, et on termine par Tokyo.
Combien de temps estimez vous le temps ? à prévoir pour récuperer le train Nosomi (pour Osaka) à patir de l'aeroport de Narita ..;et est ce qu'il est facile de trouver le quai de ce train ?
Merci d'avance .
MaryPotter
Bonjour, il n'y a pas de ligne directe pour Osaka depuis l'aéroport de Narita.
Le plus simple est de prendre le Narita Express jusqu'à la gare de Shinagawa, puis de prendre le shinkansen (attention, le Nozomi n'est pas couvert par le Japan Rail Pass) jusqu'à la gare de Shin Osaka.
Il faut compter approximativement quatre heures de trajet au total, et oui, tout est très clairement indiqué à l'aéroport et dans les gares avec affichage bilingue japonais-anglais.
Ne pas oublier d'échanger votre coupon pour le Japan Rail Pass dès votre arrivée à l'aéroport avant de monter dans le train si vous souhaitez l'utiliser pour votre séjour.
Le plus simple est de prendre le Narita Express jusqu'à la gare de Shinagawa, puis de prendre le shinkansen (attention, le Nozomi n'est pas couvert par le Japan Rail Pass) jusqu'à la gare de Shin Osaka.
Il faut compter approximativement quatre heures de trajet au total, et oui, tout est très clairement indiqué à l'aéroport et dans les gares avec affichage bilingue japonais-anglais.
Ne pas oublier d'échanger votre coupon pour le Japan Rail Pass dès votre arrivée à l'aéroport avant de monter dans le train si vous souhaitez l'utiliser pour votre séjour.
Bonjour,
Si j'ai bien compris, vous arrivez et repartez de Narita ? Comme l'a écrit Aquilonian, faites à Narita (sous-sol de l'aéroport, suivez les indications vers la gare) valider votre Railpass et en même temps les réservations pour le Narita express jusqu'à Shinagawa et le Shinkansen (Hikari, avec le JRpass) pour Osaka.
Horaires et simulations de trajets ici http://www.hyperdia.com/en/ (décochez l'option "nozomi" puisqu'il ne peut être pris avec le railpass).
Un peu dommage de devoir changer d'hébergement entre Osaka et Kyoto, qui sont proches, mais si vous n'avez pas le choix ...
A Osaka, j'ai adoré l'aquarium sur le port, absolument fantastique. Visitez Nara depuis Osaka, il y a des trains directs depuis Osaka et Shin-Osaka et ça se fait aisément sur la journée. On peut louer des vélos à Nara (gare ou proche).
A Kyoto, louez des vélos au moins une journée, vous pourrez ainsi visiter les "must see" et flâner dans les petits quartiers traditionnels. Dans les incontournables, passez une bonne journée à faire l'est de la ville (Higashiyama), depuis le temple Kiyomizu-dera qui bien qu'en rénovation offre un point de vue inégalé sur toute la ville, jusqu'à Gion, voire jusqu'au Heian Jingu plus au nord. Ne manquez pas le marché alimentaire couvert Nishiki au centre-ville. Vous trouverez d'excellentes suggestions et de bonne cartes dans le magazine gratuit "Kyoto Visitor Guide" dispo àl'office du tourisme dans la gare et dans plein d'hôtels, et sur le net www.kyotoguide.com.
A Tokyo, 4 jours vous permettront de "survoler" la ville mais n'essayez d'en voir trop, les distances entre les différents quartiers sont importantes et chronophages. Consacrez chaque jour à une zone différente, par exemple un jour pour Ueno/Asakusa/Akihabara, un jour pour Shibuya/Harajuku, un jour pour Ginza/Tokyo/, un jour pour la baie de Tokyo (Odaiba). Le palais impérial ne vaut pas le coup, par contre.
Si j'ai bien compris, vous arrivez et repartez de Narita ? Comme l'a écrit Aquilonian, faites à Narita (sous-sol de l'aéroport, suivez les indications vers la gare) valider votre Railpass et en même temps les réservations pour le Narita express jusqu'à Shinagawa et le Shinkansen (Hikari, avec le JRpass) pour Osaka.
Horaires et simulations de trajets ici http://www.hyperdia.com/en/ (décochez l'option "nozomi" puisqu'il ne peut être pris avec le railpass).
Un peu dommage de devoir changer d'hébergement entre Osaka et Kyoto, qui sont proches, mais si vous n'avez pas le choix ...
A Osaka, j'ai adoré l'aquarium sur le port, absolument fantastique. Visitez Nara depuis Osaka, il y a des trains directs depuis Osaka et Shin-Osaka et ça se fait aisément sur la journée. On peut louer des vélos à Nara (gare ou proche).
A Kyoto, louez des vélos au moins une journée, vous pourrez ainsi visiter les "must see" et flâner dans les petits quartiers traditionnels. Dans les incontournables, passez une bonne journée à faire l'est de la ville (Higashiyama), depuis le temple Kiyomizu-dera qui bien qu'en rénovation offre un point de vue inégalé sur toute la ville, jusqu'à Gion, voire jusqu'au Heian Jingu plus au nord. Ne manquez pas le marché alimentaire couvert Nishiki au centre-ville. Vous trouverez d'excellentes suggestions et de bonne cartes dans le magazine gratuit "Kyoto Visitor Guide" dispo àl'office du tourisme dans la gare et dans plein d'hôtels, et sur le net www.kyotoguide.com.
A Tokyo, 4 jours vous permettront de "survoler" la ville mais n'essayez d'en voir trop, les distances entre les différents quartiers sont importantes et chronophages. Consacrez chaque jour à une zone différente, par exemple un jour pour Ueno/Asakusa/Akihabara, un jour pour Shibuya/Harajuku, un jour pour Ginza/Tokyo/, un jour pour la baie de Tokyo (Odaiba). Le palais impérial ne vaut pas le coup, par contre.
Bonjour
Merci beaucoup pour ces infos
Il me semblait bien que de Narita on ne pouvait pas prendre le Nozomi , mais peut on le prendre de la gare de Tokyo ? ou seulement de celle de Shinagawa ? Quelle est la difference ? plus loin ? moins cher ? ou c'est la même chose..
J'ai pris un JR trail regional donc seulement pour le séjour osaka+kobe et kyoto car j'ai l'intention de prendre le Nozomi A-R de Tokyo-Osaka.
Est ce qu'il existe un pass 4 jours (metro+bus) à acheter sur place à Tokyo ?
Merci d'avance de vos réponses
Merci d'avance de vos réponses
MaryPotter
Super 🙂 j'ai tout noté et vais bien profiter de vos conseils.
Bonne journée
MaryPotter
Bonsoir Florence
je crois comprendre en vous lisant que le Japon n'as plus de secret pour vous !!
j'avais une question cocernant le Japan Rail Pass, une fois qu'on l'as activé, est-ce a chaque fois que on veux prendre un train ex.le Shinkansen, est-ce que on doit reserver les places ou on monte directement sans faire de reservation et on s'assaie ou on veut ? et j'ai cru comprendre que l'on peut également l'utiliser pour les autres trains ainsi que les bus ?
Merci pour les infos
TEX
tex
Bonjour,
Avec le railpass, on peut en effet monter dans n'importe quel train de la compagnie JR sans réservation préalable, y compris les Shinkansen "Hikari" ou "Kodama", qui ont des wagons "unreserved seat".
Toutefois, il est raisonnable de réserver un siège (c'est gratuit, ne prend que quelques minutes, attente comprise) pour les longues distances en Shinkansen (par ex. Tokyo-Kyoto) car selon les heures et les périodes (weekends, fériés) les sièges peuvent s'avérer rares.
Quelques bus sont couverts par le pass, mais il faut se renseigner par exemple sur le site http://www.japan-rail-pass.fr/train-japon/
Avec le railpass, on peut en effet monter dans n'importe quel train de la compagnie JR sans réservation préalable, y compris les Shinkansen "Hikari" ou "Kodama", qui ont des wagons "unreserved seat".
Toutefois, il est raisonnable de réserver un siège (c'est gratuit, ne prend que quelques minutes, attente comprise) pour les longues distances en Shinkansen (par ex. Tokyo-Kyoto) car selon les heures et les périodes (weekends, fériés) les sièges peuvent s'avérer rares.
Quelques bus sont couverts par le pass, mais il faut se renseigner par exemple sur le site http://www.japan-rail-pass.fr/train-japon/
Bonjour Florence
J'aurais encore 2 questions 😉
1e )J'ai bien compris que de Narita on ne pouvait pas prendre le Nozomi pour Osaka , mais peut on le prendre de la gare de Tokyo ? ou seulement de celle de Shinagawa ? Quelle est la différence ? c'est moins loin ? moins cher ? ou bien il s'agit de la même gare ?..
2e question : Est ce qu'il existe un pass 4 jours (metro+bus) à acheter sur place à Tokyo ? car le JRpass national n'était pas intérressant pour nous
Merci d'avance de vos réponses
Merci d'avance de vos réponses
MaryPotter
Hello
1- Shinagawa n'est pas la même gare que Tokyo. C'est 5 minutes plus au sud. Tous les shinkansens au départ de Tokyo et à destination de Shin-Osaka s'y arrêtent. C'est un pouillat moins cher depuis Shinagawa, mais le principal objectif de cette gare est de proposer une correspondance plus facile pour les passagers en provenance de Haneda. Bref, à moins que tu ne sois située dans les quartiers sud de la ville, prends le shinkansen depuis Tokyo (surtout que la gare de Tokyo vient d'être rénovée et est très jolie maintenant). Si tu peux prendre le Nozomi, tant mieux pour toi, ça sera un peu plus rapide.
2- oui, à acheter sur place, mais pas exactement 4 jours (très probable que tu doives acheter 4x1 pass). En fait, il y a des ***pelletées*** de pass sur des zones variées. Celui qui t'intéressera probablement le plus est le "Tokyo Free Kippu". http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/pass/tokyo_free.html 1600 JPY pour métro et trains à volonté sur Tokyo pour une journée.
1- Shinagawa n'est pas la même gare que Tokyo. C'est 5 minutes plus au sud. Tous les shinkansens au départ de Tokyo et à destination de Shin-Osaka s'y arrêtent. C'est un pouillat moins cher depuis Shinagawa, mais le principal objectif de cette gare est de proposer une correspondance plus facile pour les passagers en provenance de Haneda. Bref, à moins que tu ne sois située dans les quartiers sud de la ville, prends le shinkansen depuis Tokyo (surtout que la gare de Tokyo vient d'être rénovée et est très jolie maintenant). Si tu peux prendre le Nozomi, tant mieux pour toi, ça sera un peu plus rapide.
2- oui, à acheter sur place, mais pas exactement 4 jours (très probable que tu doives acheter 4x1 pass). En fait, il y a des ***pelletées*** de pass sur des zones variées. Celui qui t'intéressera probablement le plus est le "Tokyo Free Kippu". http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/pass/tokyo_free.html 1600 JPY pour métro et trains à volonté sur Tokyo pour une journée.
Merci beaucoup... C'est moins stressant de savoir moment gérer ses déplacements dans un pays qu'on ne connaît pas et quand on organise son voyage tout seul !!
Donc encore merci pour ces précieuses info🙂
MaryPotter
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**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Japan in April/May.
I’ll start my journey in Tokyo for 3 to 4 days.
I’d love your advice on accommodation, transportation, an itinerary, and whether a guide would be useful.
I’m traveling solo and could use a little reassurance.
Before I forget... how do payments work?
Thanks for your help, Petra
Thanks for your help, Petra
Hi there,
I’m looking for someone who could help me organize a trip to Japan for my niece and her son. I’ve seen that French-speaking guides are expensive, and the same goes for going through a tour operator.
Airline, local transportation, hotels, etc.
Thanks for your replies!
Betsyl







