Bonjour
Nous envisageons ma femme ( enceinte de 4 mois au moment du voyage en aout ) et moi de faire le trajet bangkok -> Chiang Mai -> Chiang Khong + descente du mekong en bateau ou bus -> Phnom Penh puis train + bus -> bangkok.
Avez vous deja voyage dans ces pays enceinte? Quels sont les risques objectifs sur place ( sanitaires ...)?
J ai privilegie volontairement des deplacements par train ou bateau pour diminuer les risques de chocs ( fausse couche ). Faut il prendre un traitement pour le palu?
Bref si vous avez quelques experiences n hesitez pas a nous en faire profiter. Merci
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La réponse est assez simple. Sur le parcours que vous envisagez, la couverture sanitaire est nulle. Donc, si vous avez des inquiétudes, il est préférable de prévoir une autre destination; et si vous voulez vraiment faire ce voyage, il ne faudra pas oublier de passer dans les temples pour bénéficier de la protection des dieux locaux.
PS vous n'allez pas croiser beaucoup de trains dans cette région, et l'état des routes est parfois désastreux, ce qui rend le voyage en bus parfois réellement dangereux pour une femme enceinte.
Je ne connais pas la région où vous envisagez d'aller, mais je pense quand même pouvoir te faire profiter de mon expérience. J'ai deux enfants et j'ai vécu l'intégralité de mes deux grossesses à l'étranger. Pour la première, j'étais en voyage en Amérique du Sud. Au cours des neuf mois, nous avons parcouru une partie de l'Argentine, le Chili du sud au nord, puis une partie de l'Altiplano (mon fils est né dans un dispensaire, près de Potosi). Nous étions en 4L fourgonnette et jusqu'à 7 mois de grossesse, j'ai dormi à l'intérieur. Par ailleurs, mon "état" ne nous a jamais empêchés de prendre des pistes.
Pour la deuxième grossesse, je vivais en Angola et j'ai pris une prophylaxie palu tout le long. Ma fille est née à Luanda et a pris à son tour la prophylaxie dès que j'ai dû arrêter de l'allaiter.
En bref, ce n'est pas parce qu'on est enceinte qu'on doit rester chez soi. Le deuxième trimestre de la grossesse est le plus facile à vivre et le moins propice aux complications. Alors, faites-vous plaisir ! Je suis absolument sûre que vous y tenez, à ce bébé.
Bises à vous deux et bon voyage
Vous avez dit que vous prenez tout le long de la grossesse des médicaments de prévention contre le paludisme en Angola. Je serais intéressé de savoir lesquels? Il me semble que tous les médicaments contre le paludisme dans les pays de groupe III sont "contre-indiqués chez la femme enceinte".
Je sais qu'à l'heure actuelle, on a introduit la notion de Traitement Préventif Intermittent avec un médicament qui comporte un risque des effets tératogènes, que l'on doit accepter dans l'intégration de la stratégie, mais à l'époque de votre voyage, il n'en était pas du tout question.
Idem pour votre enfant. Quel était le médicament utilisé?
Ceci dit, je peux concevoir que votre mode de vie est tout à fait pensable, vu que vous acceptez les conditions de vie des populations chez qui vous avez séjourné. Vous partagez avec eux, les risques et les joies.
La question se pose maintenant si chacun peut partager votre conception du voyage? C'est sûr, que quand on est conditionné dans un pays où le principe de précaution ne laisse aucune tolérance, c'est difficile d'accepter vos risques.
Allez continuer comme ça et faites nous vivre de votre expérience.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Nous étions en Angola en 1996-1998 et nous prenions de la Nivaquine et de la Paludrine. A l'époque, c'était la prophylaxie recommandée. Nous suivions le protocole MSF. Rémi, Samuel (qui avait à peine 2 ans à notre arrivée) et moi avons pris cette prophylaxie pendant deux ans et demi. Elisa l'a prise pendant un an. Pour les enfants, la Nivaquine était sous forme de sirop.
Effectivement, les conditions changent avec le temps. Par exemple, actuellement, en Sierra Leone, nous prenons tous de la doxycicline. Les dosages sont bien sûr adaptés à l'âge et au poids des enfants.
Comme tu le dis très justement, dans notre société la notion de risque est de moins en moins acceptée. Personnellement, je ne suis pas d'accord avec cette vision des choses. Ce n'est pas pour ça que je vais faire du prosélytisme. Mais quand quelqu'un me semble un peu moins vissé au principe de précaution que la moyenne (c'est a priori le cas de Vincent67 et sa femme), je me permets de lui dire que beaucoup de choses sont possibles. Surtout quand les premières réactions sont aussi catégoriques que celle de milou2008 !
Pour répondre à ta question, non, je ne pense pas que ma conception de la vie (car plus que de voyage, il s'agit de vie à l'étranger) puisse être partagée par tout le monde. Mais je suis sûre qu'elle convient très bien à un certain nombre d'entre nous.
L'important, c'est que chacun se fasse plaisir, dans les limites qu'il ou elle se donne.
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