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Deux jour et demi à Los Angeles
Bonjour a tous.

J envisage de passer 2.5 jours a Los Angeles ( c est une étape pour me rendre a Honolulu)

Je souhaiterais avoir votre avis sur mon programme et sur le choix de l hôtel. J ai lu beaucoup de discussions et de blogs.

Dimanche 31/05/2020

Arrivé a 10h30 en provenance de Miami. Nous aurons uniquement que 3 heures de décalage horaire. Nous prévoyons de louer une voiture.

Après-midi ( vers 15 ). Petit tour sur Melrose Avenue, Beverly hills, Rodeo drive Santa Monica pier.

Lundi 01 juin

Balade a venice, Santa Monica ( si vous avez des suggestions pour agrémenterla journée)

Mardi 2 juin

Visite de warner bros ( visite de 8h30)

Dans l apres midi (vers 14h) Visite holliwood walk offame, théâtre chinois, little tokyo ( est ce intéressant ?) Griffith Observatory (il est fermé le lundi)

Mercredi 3 juin

Décollage pour Honolulu a 8h30.

Si vous avez des suggestions et recommandations sur le timing et lieux a visiter merci d avance.
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Circuit de 3 semaines Yellowstone fin juin
Bonjour a tous Je crée un nouveau post, le titre et l'itinéraire étant différents du projet initialement posté.. en effet , nous pourrions finalement partir fin juin au lieu de fin juillet, donc l'envie Yellowstone est envisageable pour ce circuit de 3 semaines...

Nous voudrions réserver rapidement les disponibilités trouvées à Yellowstone..

Qu'en pensez vous? Ce sont les grandes lignes...

Vols multi destination Nice/ Denver puis los Angeles/ Nice.. en attente de tarifs corrects..

Jour 1 samedi 27 juin: arrivée a Denver. Route vers fort Collins (1h15 de route) 70 miles

Jour 2 dimanche 28 juin: route vers rapid city avec pause a Mont Rushmore. (5h de route) 335 miles

Jour 3 lundi 29 juin: découverte parc des badlands. Nuit a rapid city

Jour 4 mardi 30 juin: route de rapid city a Buffalo/ Sheridan. Pause a Deadwood (1h) et a devil's tower ( 2h30). (4h30 de route)

Jour 5 mercredi 1er juillet: route de rapid city vers Cody avec pause a Bighorn np et devil's canyon lookout. Soirée a Cody. Rodéo. (3h de route) 150 miles

Jour 6 jeudi 2 juillet: route entre Cody et mammoth hot springs. Pause a canyon village, mud volcano, tower Roosevelt, et lamar Valley. Soirée a Gardiner. Nuit a Mammoth hot springs

Jour 7 vendredi 3 juillet : visite mammoth hot springs (3h) puis route vers west Yellowstone. Pause a Norris geyser basin (3h). Nuit a west Yellowstone

Jour 8 samedi 4 juillet : visite canyon de Yellowstone. Nuit a west Yellowstone

Jour 9 dimanche 5 juillet : visite upper geyser basin ( 4h) et Black Sand basin 30 min, biscuit basin 30 min, Midway geyser 30 min, grand prismatic 45 min. Nuit a west Yellowstone

Jour 10 lundi 6 juillet : old faithful, grand prismatic puis west thumb (1h30). Nuit a old faithful

Jour 11 mardi 7 juillet : route entre Yellowstone et Jackson Hole. Pause a grand teton. Nuit a Jackson ou Alpine. La ville de Jackson Hole est extrêmement chere!!

Jour 12 mercredi 8 juillet : route entre Jackson et salt lake city ( 4h30 de route). Après midi découverte du lac salé. Nuit a SLC

Jour 13 jeudi 9 juillet : vol matinal entre SLC et Las Vegas. Fin de journée a Las Vegas. Fremont street.

Jour 14 vendredi 10 juillet :visite matinale Valley of Fire ( Fire wave). Fin de journée à Las Vegas. Nuit a Las Vegas

Jour 15 samedi 11 juillet : matinée a Las Vegas puis route entre las Vegas et Twentynine Palm ( 3h de route)

Jour 16 dimanche 12 juillet : visite de Joshua tree national Park. Nuit a Palm springs

Jour 17 lundi 13 juillet : matinée palm springs ( Indian canyons) puis route vers san Diego. Nuit à san Diego

Jour 18 mardi 14 juillet : visite San Diego. Nuit a San Diego

Jour 19 mercredi 15 juillet : matinée san Diego puis route vers Los Angeles. Nuit a Los Angeles

Jour 20 jeudi 16 juillet : journée a los Angeles. Nuit a los Angeles

Jour 21 vendredi 17 juillet : départ de Los Angeles

Jour 22 samedi 18 juillet : arrivée a Nice

Merci pour vos recommandations et différents avis et conseils

Marie
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Conseils sur une boucle nord-ouest des États-Unis
Bonjour,

Je prépare mon 6eme roadtrip aux USA avec cette fois une boucle Nord-Ouest à partir de San Francisco (St Helena plus exactement pour le départ). J’ai parcouru en long et en large le forum, les blogs, etc … j’ai donc une bonne vision des villes et des sites par lesquels je voudrais passer (voir en PJ le parcours Google Maps prévu). Par contre j’ai du mal à découper clairement chaque journée et donc à définir les étapes. J’aurais besoin d’aide pour cela et donc pour valider le nombre de jours nécessaires. Je liste à la suite tous mes points d’intérêt : - Départ de St Helena (Californie) - Klamath Falls (Shasta Lake sur la route) - Crater Lake National Park - Cascade Lakes National Scenic Byway - Newberry NVM - Smith Rock - John Day Fossil Beds National Monument - Cottonwood Canyon SP - Columbia River Gorge (de The Dalles à Troutdale) - Portland - Mount St Helens - Mount Rainier National Park - Northwest trek wildlife park - Seattle - Olympic National Patk (Port Angeles, Hurricane Ridge, Crescent Lake, Sol Duc Falls, Forks, Hoh rain forest, Lac Quinault) - Aberdeen - Astoria - Cannon beach (Ecola State Park) - Pacific City (Three Capes Scenic Drive) - Newport - Oregon Dunes NRA - Crescent City - Redwood National Park - Humboldt Redwood State Park (Avenue of the Giants) - Mendocino - Guerneville via Bohemian Highway - San Francisco

J’ai bien une petite idée de découpage mais j’aimerais vos suggestions sans influencer. Je sais qu’on aime bien les gens qui ont déjà travaillé leur sujet donc si je me fais incendier je posterai mon idée 😉 Je précise que nous ne sommes pas de très grands marcheurs donc nous ne passerons pas des journées à randonner. Un trail de 7/8 km par-ci par-là nous va très bien. Merci d’avance pour votre aide !

Pierre
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Restaurant One World 1WTC «one dine» à New York
Bonjour Nous partons à NY dans une semaine. Nous aimerions monter à l’observatoire One World et nous allions réserver des tickets quand nous avons vu qu’il existe des tickets Prix Fixe Restaurant One Dine. Apparemment pour 70$ pp il y a l’accès prioritaire, les étages 100 à 102 et un menu entrée-plat ou pour 90$ un menu entrée plat dessert. Du coup, si on enleve le prix du ticket d’entrée prioritaire (45$), ça fait 25$ le menu, ce qui me semble relativement bon marché comparé aux restaurants à NY et d’autant qu’il y a la vue. J’avoue que je ne comprends pas trop si j’ai raté quelque chose ou pas. Pouvez vous m’éclairer svp? Merci
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Is it easy to navigate Detroit Airport?
Hi, My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well. Thanks for your replies,
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Parking and Viewpoints for Lake Tahoe Visits
Good evening, everyone! 🙂 Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.

**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?

**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?

**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?

Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
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Le "Wonder View Trail" à Hollywood
Bonjour,

Je ne sais pas si le sujet a déjà été abordé mais je n'ai rien trouvé le concernant.

Je vais aller à Los Angeles et je souhaite faire le Wonder View Trail pour accéder à l'arrière des lettres hollywood.

Quelqu'un a déjà fait ce trail? Des avis? Où peut on se garer?

Merci
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Une deuxième fois à New York
Bonjour,

Je pars à NYC fin février, je suis déjà allé à NYC il y a 1an 1/2, je souhaite savoir comment accéder à mon Esta ? Ou je dois en refaire un ?

Geoffroy
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New York City Pass et Crown Reserve Ticket (statue de la Liberté)
Bonjour je me rends à NEW York prochainement. J'ai acheté en ligne le New York citypass paSs qui me permettra d'accéder à Liberty Island. Cependant je voudrais monter dans la statue Et jusque dans la couronne. Dois je racheter sur le site le crown reserve ticket à 21,5$ ou y a t-il une solution pour payer le complément de 3$?

Merci d'avance.
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New York City Pass et accès à la couronne de la Statue de la Liberté
Bonjour,

De ce que j'ai trouvé et également en téléphonant à Statue Cruises, il semble que le NY City Pass ne permette pas d'accéder, même moyennement un supplément, à la couronne. Ce que m'a dit Statue Cruises au tel (mais j'ai peur qu'avec mon anglais moyen je n'ai pas tout compris), c'est qu'il faut prendre un billet indépendant du City Pass qui comprend le circuit en bateau, la Statue avec la montée + Ellis Island et qui coûte $24 et dans ce cas on perd l'attraction comprise dans le City Pass (à moins de le faire 2fois, mais l'intérêt est limité).

Pour celles ou ceux qui se sont trouvés dans cette situation : Est-ce que vous confirmez ?

Merci d'avance. Cordialement, Caussat
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Annual National Parks Pass
Hi everyone.

I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.

So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.

This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.

Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.

The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.

Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!

That’s all for now.

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Tour en avion ou hélicoptère au Grand Canyon
Bonjour j'ai visité grand canyon il y a au moins 15 ans or je dois y retourner en Avril est il facile pour se rendre au village pour effectuer un tour en avion ou hélicoptère peut on aller à différent point de vue sans être obligé de prendre des navettes car j'ai l'impression que tout est verrouillé quel serai le moyen le plus facile j'ai pensé au train avec le package train + hôtel mais très cher je logerai à Williams merci pour vos conseils stl0747
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Accès aux parcs nationaux de l'Ouest américain en bus
Bonjour, mon fils et sa copine envisage un Road trip ds l’ouest américain en août 2020 pendant 4 semaines maxi, permis de conduire en cours pour mon fils 20 ans . Location trop chère ( car moins de 25 ans) Il connaît certains parcs nationaux et un partie de l’ouest américain ( voyage 3 semaines il y a 3 ans) existe il des bus pour relier certaines villes vers les principaux parcs nationaux ? Au départ de Los Angeles San Francisco L’as Vegas avec ou sans possibilité de dormir ( motels hôtels très proches parcs ). Nous avions trouvé un site mais qui s ‘avère être une arnaque. ( Bundu Bus) tous les autres grands trajets seront en bus (Flixbus...) merci pour vos retours vos idées !
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Which entrance to choose for Pinnacles National Park (California): East or West?
Hi everyone! 🙂

I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.

This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?

I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop

Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?

Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
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Questions about SUV trails and must-sees for a California road trip
Hi everyone! 🙂 As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th. Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us. We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.

Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure

For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)

I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?

That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
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California Road Trip Suggestions
Hello Departing on August 29 from San Francisco.

I’m not sure if it’s because I’m booking last-minute (I usually reserve way in advance) or if it’s because it’s early September—whereas we usually travel in late September—but I feel like prices have really gone up. Luckily, the dollar is weak right now!

I’ll post the start of the road trip, and I’m looking for your suggestions because I’m a bit stuck around Lassen since I had to cut one day from the rest of the trip.

D1: Flight Marseille → Paris → SFO, night in SFO D2: SFO (3rd time, so it’s just because we love it, but we’ve already done almost everything—we’ll revisit our favorite spots and especially do some walking tours). Night in SF D3 & 4: Heading to Fort Bragg for two nights D5 & 6: Night in Eureka, visiting southern Redwood D7 & 8: Crescent City, visiting northern Redwood D9: Heading to Mount Shasta, night in Mount Shasta D10: Lassen (north entrance), night in Mineral D11: Lassen south, mid-afternoon departure for North Lake Tahoe (two nights) and exploring the area D13 & 14: South Lake Tahoe D15: June Lake D16: Morning walk, then heading toward Fresno, overnight stop in the area D17: King’s Canyon, night at the lodge D18: Drive to Sequoia and walk, night in Three Rivers D19: Big morning in Sequoia, then heading to Pacific Grove (our favorite spot) for three nights to rest and walk along the Pacific D22: Probably (but still undecided) a detour to Sacramento to visit the California State Capitol… if we’re not too lazy, we’ll see D23: Return to San Francisco… night on the coast near the ocean (Pacifica or Half Moon Bay) D24: Return to France

Thanks for your constructive help, and don’t hesitate to criticize—I always try to stay at least two nights in each place and take time to rest a bit. Obviously, we’ve already done all the red rock areas…
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Return to "The Wave" (Coyote Buttes North Advanced Lottery): access trail questions
Hi there, I just got the "congratulations" email last night letting me know that our first-choice access to The Wave for June 16, 2025, was approved in the March 1st lottery draw! We thought we’d missed out since we hadn’t heard anything on the 1st or 2nd of March... It’s true that for the past two years, it’s no longer 10 and 10 people like before, but 48 and 16 who are allowed to enter the site through the two lottery processes. That helps balance out the surge in applications that must come with the place’s growing global fame... I haven’t found any info on this, but does anyone know how many applications are typically submitted each month per date for the Advanced Lottery? So, my somewhat lucky track record for 3 attempts: 2 successes for April 2009 and June 2025, and one miss for September 2011. We’re still a little nervous about the likely high temperatures, with hardly any shade or water on-site 😛. At Easter 2009, it had snowed a bit the day before... From what I remember, the access trail from Route 89 to Wire Pass Trailhead was doable without a 4x4, with a bit of ground clearance and careful driving (obviously no storms). A simple Toyota RAV4, like the one we’re planning to rent, should be fine in dry conditions? We’ll be heading there from Page on the morning of 06/16 (how long’s the drive?), then heading to Kanab for 3 nights in the evening. Thanks for any tips you might have! 😉
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Transposer en hiver un road trip estival (quid du réseau routier Yosemite-Yellowstone)
Oyez! Oyez!

Because le Covid19 et comme beaucoup d'entre vous je pense, je dois malheureusement annuler mon voyage qui devait débuter le mois prochain. Enfin pas vraiment l'annuler mais plutôt le reporter. Et là, j'ai besoin de vos expériences et expertises. En effet, je souhaite transposer mes 3 semaines estivales au mois de décembre! Sans quasiment rien changer à mon programme. Possible or not possible, telle est la question.

Plusieurs interrogations qui concernent particulièrement le réseau routier en hiver: - Yosemite -> Reno via le Lac Tahoe (la route 88 ou la 89 sont-elles accessibles?) - L'accès à West Yellowstone en provenance de Idaho par route 20 est-elle toujours ouverte? - Pour le Grand Teton, arrivée par l'entrée sud uniquement. Quels risques sur la route 33?). Enfin, quid des déplacements autour de Jenny lake et Jackson Lake.

Entendons-nous bien, je parle des accès en condition hivernale normale et non en cas d'épisode neigeux extraordinaire.

Merci par avance pour vos témoignages. Bon dimanche
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Réservation camping de Yosemite impossible: des plans "B"?
Salut à tous, Nous partons en famille, début juillet dans le grand Ouest américain. On a réservé pas mal d'hébergements: campings et motels. Et on a attendait bien sagement l'ouverture des réservations pour les camping de Yosemite et là, patatra!!! Full en 15 secondes! Du coup, on se questionne sur le fait d'y aller quand-même ou pas parce que beaucoup de bouchons en cette saison...Des tensions inutiles en cette fin de voyage, etc. Voilà le topo: On démarre notre voyage par: LV 2 (nuits) Zion (3 nuits) Scenic drive (3 nuits) Page (2 nuits) Monument Valley (1 nuit) Grand Canyon (2 nuits) Ensuite nous devions repasser par LV , 2 nuits à Monolake et 4 nuits à Yosemite... et retour avion LV. Mais là ça change tout...on hésite même à rester en Utah, pour manger moins de bornes avec nos filles. Auriez-vous des idées d'itinéraires pour la fin de notre road-trip familial?

Merci d'avance!!!

Aurélie
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Petite rando qui mène au panneau Hollywood (Los Angeles)
Bonjour Peut on faire de nous même la petite rando qui mene aux panneaux Hollywood afin de pouvoir se prendre en photo avec ainsi que vue sur L. A.? Ou doit on obligatoirement passer par une agence style get yoyr guide ou viator... Etc. Nous souhaiterions le faire au coucher de soleil. Merci
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Embouteillages et parkings pleins: zapper le Yellowstone?
Bonjour, je lis de plus en plus de témoignages et articles sur les embouteillages et parkings pleins à Yellowstone qui me font réellement hésiter à y aller. Dormir dans le parc pour être près des sites semble être la seule solution mais je n'ai pas les moyens. Partir tôt de WY est une solution évoquée mais je doute que c'en soit réellement une. En effet on ne peut pas non plus partir avant qu'il fasse jour et vu la quantité d'endroits à voir, on va quand même se retrouver dans les heures de pointe. Que faire ? Laisser tomber ou???
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Aéroport de Denver et loueurs de voitures
Bonsoir Nous arrivons à l aéroport de denver le 1er septembre à 20h heure locale. Est-ce compliqué depuis les arrivées de l aéroport de se rendre aux loueurs de voiture, y a t il des navettes? Merci
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La Nouvelle-Angleterre pour 5 jours
Bonjour à tous,

j'ai posté il y a peu de temps par rapport a une escapade à Washington que nous voulions faire mon mari, mes enfants et moi en Août, lors de notre séjour à NY. Nous avons changé complètement d'avis et on se dirige plutôt vers la nouvelle Angleterre pour 5 jours. Les enfants aimeraient en fait, une atmosphère plus "maritime" c'est pourquoi nous avons changé d'avis. Après avoir parcouru des forums et les guides, on se fixera plutôt sur Rhode Island, j'ai trouvé un hôtel sur Providence. pouvez vous me dire si ce que j'envisage est faisable. on aimerait faire Newport (cliff walk, les manoirs), providence, Narragansett ou litlle Compton et aller jusqu'à cap cod. je n'ai pas défini quel jour nous allons faire quoi, mais pensez vous qu'en 5 jours c'est faisable?

un aller retour providence/ Provincetown par exemple est faisable en une journée?

je vous remercie de vos retours.
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15-Day Road Trip Recap: Colorado and New Mexico
Hello, here’s a totally subjective recap of our 15-day road trip between Colorado and New Mexico, from late September to mid-October.

Our main interests are culture, museums, and landscapes—no hiking or trails for us. Personally, I’m pretty contemplative, and luckily, there’s always something to see out there! We’re pretty used to the US; we’ve been going there often for a long time (let’s just say we’re not exactly young anymore).

Budget: Even though we don’t set a strict budget beforehand, we try to keep costs as low as possible. This time, we managed to spend around 4000 € for two, all included. To do this: avoid expensive accommodations, staying between 60 and 120 € per night with an average of 90 €/night, mixing Airbnb and motels. And skip the “real” restaurants, which are pretty pricey in the US: sandwiches for lunch, takeout or cooking in the Airbnb in the evening. We shop at Sprouts or Whole Foods—organic-style chains that are pricier than Walmart but better. In the evenings, Sprouts has discounts on items that didn’t sell during the day. Also, avoid toll roads, paid parking, and overly expensive attractions or sites. The dispensary budget is separate…

Route: Denver/Colorado Springs/Alamosa/Raton/Santa Fe/Cuba/Cortez/Grand Junction/Glenwood Springs/Denver This wasn’t too planned in advance—we booked a few nights upon arrival and went with the flow. Flight from CDG to Denver with AF/Delta, car rental at Dollar for a standard SUV. The guy at the Dollar counter upsold me on extra insurance for flat tires (and since I knew we’d be off-roading, I took it). Without telling me, he upgraded me to a Jeep Sahara 4X4 Hybrid. Nice.

Listening to the news upon arrival, the anchor announced, “It’s officially fall now.” We hadn’t really thought about that before leaving, but yeah—it’s the time when the trees turn fluorescent yellow and red. Amazing.

Colorado Springs: Garden of the Gods is a free park with paved trails winding through red/orange rock formations. Magical at sunrise—groups of deer roam around, along with birds and rabbits. It’s small but wow! Didn’t try the Manitou Incline in Manitou Springs, a staircase with thousands of steps going straight up the mountain. Impressive from the bottom, but the parking is paid, which is a downside for those willing to tackle it. The Cog Railway goes up to the summit of Pikes Peak—around $100 when we were there. No thanks. And of course, the parking is paid too. For fans, Maggie’s Farm dispensary is great.

On Route 24, Eleven Mile Canyon Recreation Area is fly-fishing paradise—just like in the movie *A River Runs Through It*. Entry is $11, and a trail follows the river at the bottom of the canyon to the dam. Dozens of people in waders are in the water, casting their lines over and over. You can see the salmon in the clear water, and we had a picnic in the sun, imagining Brad Pitt catching a fish.

Buena Vista: A cute little tourist town with an Outdoor Fair that day—some pretty impressive vehicles for sale, set up for mountain living (like Juniper outfitting a RAM).

Alamosa: The closest town to Great Sand Dunes National Park, crossed by the Rio Grande (and let’s be real—it’s more of a stream than a river!). Park access was free because it was National Park Day. A park with massive dunes—climbing them is pretty exhausting, with lots of wind and sinking sand. Glad we didn’t do it in summer; I can’t imagine how tough it’d be in the heat. It’s a bit deceptive: it looks easy to get to the top of a dune, but it’s really not. The campsites were nice, and it was busy that weekend. We passed the “Point of No Return,” a sandy trail winding through the hills and connecting to Route 559 from above. Didn’t go all the way, but it’s possible the entrance is free from that side. However, you need a 4X4 with good ground clearance. After 1 or 2 km on the trail, you’re alone between the dunes and hills—hardly anyone around. But tricky to turn around or pass other vehicles; the trail isn’t wide. We crossed paths with a Hanomag (registered in the Netherlands—impressive!) coming down without stopping, or risking getting stuck.

On the way out, we took the small Route 403, which quickly turns into a trail crossing the mountain. Entire sections of forest were turning fluorescent yellow with patches of green and red—an incredible sight.

Raton: A small town that probably peaked in the late 19th century and has been in slow decline ever since. The Raton Pass Motor Inn is the kind of place that makes the US legendary—entirely 50s and 60s decor, really well done. I had the Betty Page room—too cool. Felt like we were on Route 66. Even better.

Santa Fe: A small city with no high-rises—almost all low-rise buildings, many in adobe, blending perfectly into the landscape. The old downtown is touristy but nice, with its plaza and church. There’s a really cool vibe—we loved it. For drinks, the bar at the top of La Fonda Hotel was packed for sunset, with a diverse crowd. Not overpriced for the location. SITE Santa Fe is a contemporary art space near the train station. It’s free, and the temporary exhibit was really good—high quality. Museum Hill is, as the name suggests, where several museums are located. We visited the Museum of Indian Art and Culture—great if you’re into “First Nations” history. Saw The Dandy Warhols at The Bridge—an outdoor venue, one of the last concerts of the season before winter makes it too cold. Oddly, there was no bag check, just an ID required (even though it was obvious we were over 21!). Tickets were reasonable, around $30 (concerts in the US can be crazy expensive). The band was good, with fewer than 300 people in front. A sign at the bar warned: Don’t forget you’re at 1,500 meters—alcohol hits harder up here!

Albuquerque: A sprawling city with an old historic center that feels a bit like Disneyland—too perfect for my taste. The real highlight is the Sandia Peak Tramway, which goes up to the old ski resort above the city. Tickets are around $35, and it’s worth it—the ride over the canyons is pretty wild. The ski resort is a bit abandoned; apparently, like elsewhere, there’s no snow anymore. I asked several people about the lack of snow, and the answer was always the same: “It’s cyclical.” Okay then. We arrived for the start of the International Balloon Fiesta (one of the world’s largest hot-air balloon gatherings), hoping to see hundreds of balloons in the sky. Nope—windy today, so no one took off. Bummer.

Las Vegas: New Mexico has its own Las Vegas, but it’s nothing like the other one—a sleepy little town with a perfectly preserved 19th-century Historic Plaza Hotel, brick buildings, and vintage streetlights. Everything is so well-preserved it’s often used as a filming location. NM attracts a lot of productions thanks to tax incentives and its Western landscapes—and it’s cheaper than California! That day, a huge Texas flag was flying in the wind: they were filming the second season of *Ransom Canyon* for Netflix in the town center. If we’d been dressed more “Western,” we could’ve been extras.

Jemez Springs: Its Jemez Hot Springs is super cute—several thermal pools at different temperatures, a New Age vibe. The pools are surrounded by big rocks, and you’re asked to speak softly. A place where you could spend hours. $50 for two hours for two.

Los Alamos: A town made legendary by the bomb, the movie, etc. Heads up: It’s still a research center, and to cross part of the town, you need to show ID. No stopping or taking photos allowed. Other than the Oppenheimer House (currently closed—only the neighboring house is open to visitors), there’s not much to see. There’s a replica of the camp entrance, but it’s been turned into restrooms.

Georgia O’Keeffe Trail (American painter, 1887–1986): Her museum in Santa Fe is pretty good, even if they don’t have tons of works. Entry is $20. Her house in Abiquiu is open for visits, but it’s way overpriced at $65. So we skipped it. You can get an idea of it by stopping at the Welcome Center on Route 84. Further down the same road, Ghost Ranch is worth a visit—beautiful setting, free to enter, with trails to explore and a great atmosphere.

Chaco Culture National Historical Park: A pretty isolated park—25 km of trails to get there, with only a small section paved. The road is decent except for the last few kilometers, which have potholes. I can’t imagine it being accessible after rain, though that doesn’t happen often! This park, in the middle of a desert plain with a few canyons, is one of the rare places where you can find multi-story structures from pre-Columbian civilizations—so, before the “current” tribes. But cruel disappointment: it’s been shut down for a few days. We met a Native ranger—tall, with long hair—who explained that even though he wasn’t being paid, he was still guarding the park and had closed all access to the sites. Darn. Turned around and headed back down the trail.

Same story in the next town, Aztec (a funny name, right?): Aztec Ruins National Monument was closed too.

We passed Ship Rock, the Navajo’s sacred mountain—really impressive. Couldn’t find a trail to get closer, but it’s better from a distance anyway! The town of Shiprock itself is pretty depressing—poor living conditions for some Natives, with rundown mobile homes and piles of junk cars.

Stopped in Cortez to visit Mesa Verde National Park. Ate at Denny’s—hadn’t been there in ages (though it’s the kind of place I should feel at home in!). The customers all looked like they’d stepped out of *The Addams Family*—a little creepy. Or funny, depending on your perspective. For Mesa Verde, after discussing it on this forum with the honorable member Caussat (who didn’t find it that amazing), we were on the fence. Problem solved: it was closed too. Back on the road.

Durango: Really nice with its Main Ave and its shops, cafés—touristy but with local life. Famous for its tourist train to Silverton, but we didn’t do it—way too expensive. Choice between a steam locomotive or diesel (which belches black, stinky smoke—yuck). The diesel should be replaced with electric as soon as they get the funds.

Million Dollar Highway: The road winds through the mountains, and every turn (and there are a lot) is breathtaking—unbelievable landscapes with fluorescent yellow, green, and snow-capped mountains. Just wow.

Silverton: A Western town nestled between two mountains, preserved in its original state despite the tourists arriving by train. Around it, abandoned mines and old wooden ties—must’ve been tough for the 19th-century miners.

Grand Junction: The city is surrounded by giant mesas—pretty impressive. The old downtown is *too* clean—almost sterile.

Colorado National Monument: Just outside the city, a winding road climbs between stunning canyons, with sweeping views of the valley. Entry was free that day due to the shutdown.

Route 330, which we took to get back to the highway, passes through a place called “Cowboy Country”—and it’s true. We saw guys in Stetsons with huge pickups, the road turned into a trail with cows wandering on it, and we had to honk to get them to move. The trail to I-70 was full of potholes—the 4X4 came in handy. Had a picnic by Vega Reservoir: the booth at the entrance was empty, but people left cash in envelopes for camping fees. Anyone passing by could’ve taken it, but it’s an example of US trust and honesty!

Glenwood Springs: A small town famous for its hot springs pool—they claim it’s the largest in the world. I don’t know about that, but it has a great look. Unfortunately, it was closed for maintenance those days! Blew our budget by staying at the Hotel Colorado, a huge 1893 building with a real atmosphere in its grand lobby and fake fireplaces. Fire pits in front of wooden chairs in the garden with mountain views—just really great.

Aspen: The billionaires’ ski resort, but surprisingly, parking was free for 2 hours. Rare to see a place for the super-rich that doesn’t scream “not for you” (like Palm Beach, for example). A former mining town completely redone, every shop occupied by a luxury brand. There’s even a thrift shop run by sweet retirees—funny as hell. Two ski lifts to start directly with your skis, but we didn’t see the price—they were still closed. Lots of houses that aren’t huge but are cute, though looking at real estate prices made us think, “Is there an extra zero on that listing?” A 6-bedroom villa for $52 million? Wow. The mountains around are gorgeous—no wonder it became what it is.

Another fancy resort nearby: Vail, more modern in its construction. The restaurants opted for a “Schwarzwald” decor—kind of odd.

Denver: Nothing really stood out for us in this city, except the Design Museum—the Kirkland, where a local painter collected furniture and supplies from Arts and Crafts to Postmodern. Just really great. Entry is included with a visit to the Denver Art Museum, which has diverse collections—from Impressionism (they have a Manet, a Van Gogh, a Cézanne, several Sisleys) to photography. The best part for me was the “Ancient Americas” totems—huge, impressive wooden sculptures, painted, the kind you’re more used to seeing in Polynesia or Easter Island. Personally, I didn’t know Natives made them too. That’s what museums are for!

Back at the airport, where I had to tag my own luggage (you have to do everything yourself with these US airlines). The tag said SLC/CDG! But we were supposed to connect through JFK. Turns out, they’d put us on a DEN/SLC/CDG flight without telling us. In the end, we gained 30 minutes on our original arrival time in Paris!

There you go—hope this inspires other travelers! !
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Feedback on my Colorado - New Mexico - Arizona road trip
Hi everyone,

Let me introduce myself. I’m 45 and traveling with my husband and my daughter, who’ll be 17 soon. We’re used to road-trip-style vacations, in the US or elsewhere. This will be our 5th trip to the US. We’ve already visited several states: New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Washington DC, Florida, Wyoming, South Dakota, California, Utah, Nevada, and Arizona. I’d like to plan another trip starting from Denver to Colorado and New Mexico, which we haven’t explored yet, with a stop in a part of Arizona we haven’t visited before. So, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this itinerary if you’re familiar with the area. We’ll be traveling in the summer of 2026—admittedly not the best time for this route, but it’s the only time we can all get away for long enough. I’m also tied to the dates for Cheyenne Frontier Days, which we want to attend at the start of the trip. Thanks in advance for your input!

Day 1: Departure from Frankfurt > Arrival in Denver around 3 PM. Night in Denver

Day 2: Denver > Cheyenne Quick visit to Denver Drive to Cheyenne in the late afternoon 2-hour drive Night in Cheyenne Day 3: Cheyenne Frontier Days Night in Cheyenne

Day 4: Cheyenne > Estes Park (Rocky Mountains) Frontier Days during the day. Departure in the late afternoon for Estes Park 2-hour drive Night in Estes Park

Day 5: Hiking in the Rocky Mountains Nights in Estes Park

Day 6: Estes Park > Glenwood Springs We’ll take the day to drive the scenic route and stop at various viewpoints. Night in Glenwood Springs

Day 7: Glenwood Springs Hiking the Hanging Lake Trail + relaxing in the hot springs Night in Glenwood Springs

Day 8: Glenwood Springs > Montrose Visit Colorado NM along the way 3.5-hour drive Night in Montrose

Day 9: Black Canyon Night in Montrose

Day 10: Montrose > Farmington Visit Durango (without taking the train), Ouray, or Silverton along the way? 3.5-hour drive Night in Farmington

Day 11: Farmington > Chinle Bisti Badlands until early afternoon 3-hour drive Night in Chinle

Day 12: Chinle > Sedona Canyon de Chelly in the morning 4-hour drive Night in Sedona

Day 13 - 14: Hiking in Sedona Nights in Sedona

Day 15: Sedona > Tucson Saguaro West Park 3.5-hour drive Night at a ranch in Tucson

Day 16 - 17: Tucson City visit in the morning + ranch activities in the afternoon Nights at a ranch in Tucson

Day 18: > Wilcox Chiricahua NP 1-hour drive Night in Wilcox

Day 19: Wilcox > Alamogordo White Sands in the late afternoon 4.5-hour drive Night in Alamogordo

Day 20: Alamogordo > Carlsbad White Sands in the morning Bat viewing in the evening at Carlsbad 4.5-hour drive Night in Carlsbad

Day 21: Carlsbad > Albuquerque Cave visit in the morning Quick stop in Roswell 4.25-hour drive Night in Albuquerque Day 22: Albuquerque > Santa Fe Visit Albuquerque 1-hour drive Night in Santa Fe

Day 23: Santa Fe Kasha Katuwe Tent Rocks in the morning Visit Santa Fe in the afternoon Night in Santa Fe

Day 24: Santa Fe Bandelier in the morning Visit Santa Fe in the afternoon Night in Santa Fe

Day 25: Santa Fe > Alamosa Taos Pueblo along the way Great Sand Dunes in the late afternoon Zapata Falls Night in Alamosa

Day 26: Alamosa > Denver 4-hour drive Departure around 7 PM

Looking forward to your suggestions, corrections, and feedback!
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Family Road Trip from Salt Lake City to Salt Lake City
Hello fellow travel forum members,

This time, it's real, concrete stuff.

We’ll be going on a road trip in September this year (if all goes well, yes, I know it’s a bit superstitious, but I can’t help it, especially with the current family circumstances).

There’ll be four of us: my husband, our two grown kids (20 and 24), and me.

The flights aren’t booked yet because I’m still hesitating over the dates (it’s down to a day or two). They should be finalized by the end of this week or sometime next week.

J1 - Friday, August 29: Brussels-SLC via Amsterdam with KLM (I’d love your opinions on this airline since I’ve never flown with them before) – arrival scheduled for early afternoon. J2 - Saturday, August 30: SLC-Moab J3 - Sunday, August 31: Arches – we’ll see if we can get tickets; otherwise, we’ll wake up at dawn (entries possible without a reservation before 7 am) J4 - Monday, September 1: Arches J5 - Tuesday, September 2: Moab - Grand Teton – night booked J6 - Wednesday, September 3: Grand Teton – night booked J7 - Thursday, September 4: Grand Teton - Jackson J8 - Friday, September 5: Jackson J9 - Saturday, September 6: Jackson – evening: Rodeo (tickets booked) J10 - Sunday, September 7: Jackson - Yellowstone – night booked at Lake Yellowstone J11 - Monday, September 8: Yellowstone – night booked at Canyon Lodge J12 - Tuesday, September 9: Yellowstone – night booked at Canyon Lodge J13 - Wednesday, September 10: Yellowstone – night booked at Old Faithful Snow J14 - Thursday, September 11: Yellowstone – night booked at Old Faithful Snow J15 - Friday, September 12: Yellowstone - SLC J16 - Saturday, September 13: departure from SLC J17 - Sunday, September 14: arrival in Brussels

As I mentioned in the intro, the departure and return dates aren’t set in stone yet. Normally, we’d leave on August 29, which would mean visiting Moab and Arches. Otherwise, we’d leave on August 30 and stay in SLC. Around SLC, we’d explore the area, but I’ll admit I’m a bit stuck on what to do there.

For the return, we’d leave SLC on Saturday, September 13, or Sunday, September 14. Our youngest starts classes on Monday, September 15, but he doesn’t mind starting a day later.

Some things are already booked and paid for and can’t be changed (or only with difficulty), so please keep that in mind in your comments. 😕

I’d love to hear about your experiences with a few questions:

* Is it too ambitious to include Arches in the road trip? Especially since the drives are long, particularly the Moab-Grand Teton stretch.

* What do you recommend doing around SLC?

* Same for Jackson. We’ve decided to spend two full days there to take a break between the national parks.

* For the return, I was wondering if spending a day in SLC before heading back to Europe might be a good idea.

Thanks so much in advance for your advice!

Patricia
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Rejoindre la HITRR à partir d'Alstrom Point par la Smoky Mountain Road
Hello à tous ! Comme les voyages de cette année n'ont pu avoir lieu et qu'ils vont, pour la plupart, être repoussés à l'année prochaine, on en profite pour étoffer et améliorer un peu l'itinéraire initialement prévu. Du coup, j'ai une question : Est-ce quelqu'un a déjà emprunté la Smoky Mountain Road pour rejoindre la Hole in the Rock Road ? Si oui, quel est l'état de la piste (j'aurai un Wrangler) sachant que Google Maps m'indique 3 heures à partir d'Alstrom Point ? Et enfin, y a-t-il des choses à y voir (après le Smoky Mountain Overlook) ? Merci d'avance,
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Comment organiser son voyage dans l'Ouest américain quand on est "débutant"?
Bonjour,

Je me présente je m'appelle Florence, j'ai 25 ans, et depuis toujours je rêve de partir aux États Unis. Nous allons donc réaliser mon rêve avec mon compagnon, si tout se passe bien, d'ici 2 ans.

Jusqu'ici, je projetais d'utiliser un site spécialisé comme Marco Vasco, pour cela j'avais calculer une moyenne de 5000 € par personne (pour absolument tout, les trajets, location de véhicule, activités, restaurants, et cadeaux). Pour deux nous disposons donc de 10.000 €, pour 17 jours sur la côte Ouest. On m'a dit que cela faisait beaucoup et que nous pouvions nous en sortir pour moins cher si l'on faisait notre propre organisation à nous.

Seulement voilà, je ne suis jamais sortie de la France, mon chéri si mais très peu.

Donc, on se demande comment organiser notre voyage de A à Z.

J'aurai donc de multiples questions et si quelqu'un aurait la gentillesse de m'aider ce serait superbe !

Déjà, j'ai un gros livre le routard sur les Etats Unis, j’attends de finir de le lire pour noter ce que nous souhaitons à tout prix voir ou visiter avant de tracer un itinéraire.

Dans la formule que je devais choisir à la base, nous devions faire Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Francisco. Entre cela il y avait le Grand Canyon, Death Valley, la route 66, les casinos, etc....Pour vous donner une idée 🙂

Donc voici les questions que je me pose, déjà, que faut t'il réserver en premier (hôtels, avion ?) et combien de temps à l'avance ? Pour la location de la voiture, comment cela fonctionne t'il ? Car je sais que dans notre formule, nous avions une voiture que l'on prenait à Los Angeles, et que l'on rendait à San Francisco. Mais une réservation de nous même, je ne sais pas du tout comment ça se passe 🤪

Le mieux est t'il de louer un camping car ou une voiture et des hôtels à côté ?

Ya t'il des choses importantes à savoir ? Je sais déjà qu'il faut remplir le formulaire ESTA, donner un pourboire à chaque repas, mais j'imagine qu'il y a encore plein d'autres choses à savoir.

Donc tout vos conseils, je prend !

En vous remerciant 🙂
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Projet de voyage dans l'Ouest américain fin septembre
Bonsoir à tous, Depuis le temps que je lis tous les sites et tous les carnets sur le forum je me lance enfin à poster mes interrogations sur l'organisation du voyage prévu normalement en septembre sinon l'année prochaine si on ne peut pas partir (comme ça tout sera prêt) ! La question du jour est : est ce réalisable pour des quinquagénaires randonneurs occasionnels mais en montagne de faire en une journée : - Départ de Torrey - Moonsape Overlook - A/R Long Dong Silver - LWHC - Goblin Valley - route vers Moab pour la nuit sans courrir, je ne veux pas me sentir prise par le temps.

Merci pour votre aide. Aline
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