Activités à Skoura au Maroc?
by Patdesnaux
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
en fait je parts avec mon ami au Maroc la semaine prochaine, nous devons séjourner 3 ou 4 jours à Skoura, car nous avons lu beaucoup de bonnes choses sur cette palmeraie; Nous avons repéré déja quelques endroits pour dormir; mais vos avis sont les bienvenus!
Qu'est ce qu'il y a comme activité, mon ami aime bien faire du quad!moi je suis plutôt vélo!
merci pour vos réponses;
patricia
Faire du quad dans la palmeraie de Skoura!!!!, vous plaisantez, j'espère. Cette palmeraie magnifique est un lieu de paix dans laquelle l'on se promène à pied ou éventuellement en vélo pour découvrir les superbes kasbahs qui méritent admiration et respect. Le quad est un engin néfaste qui détruit l'harmonie des paysages et agressent les oreilles des autochtones et des étrangers qui souhaitent retrouver au Maroc ce qu'ils ont perdu dans leur pays, c'est à dire pouvoir admirer des paysages magnifiques en toute tranquillité. Cependant, il y a tout de même quelques 4x4 qui nous l'espérons ne proliféreront pas en raison d'un l'écosystème fragile. Voir ce qu'il est advenu de la palmeraie de Marrakech, un vrai désastre écologique.
Je vous souhaite cependant un bon voyage et un bon séjour à Skoura sans quad.....
Je vous souhaite cependant un bon voyage et un bon séjour à Skoura sans quad.....
Madame,
je pense que l'on a un point en commun l'amour du Maroc!
Mais pour ce qui est des quads, je pense que ce n'est pas le cas, car en effet le quad n'est ni plus ni moins un vehicule à moteur pour se déplacer, (tout dépend de la manière dont on l'utilise), pour ce qui est du bruit, vous qui vivez au Maroc vous savez aussi bien que moi que l'on pourrait retirer un bon nombre de véhicules plus bruyants que le quad!(il en est de même pour la polution).
Je n'aime pas me lancer dans des polémiques, mais je pense que votre remarque est hors propos et qu'il est plus intelligent de réglementer que d'interdire, même si celà est plus facil!(par exemple aux dunes de chegaga ou les quads font du hors pistes et du bruits, alors que certains ont fait la démarche de s'éloigner).
Pour ce qui est de l'écologie, de mon côté je fais ce que je peux, mais tant que je ne serais pas capable de me passer de voitures, d'avions...et de vivre en otarcie je me garderais bien de porter des jugements!
En parlant de désastre écologique, vous citez Marrakech, la dispation des palmiers est essentiellement lié à la cupidité et si on veut faire de l'argumentation "sauvage" c'est à cause de nous! et oui! si nous étrangers n'étions pas venu envahir le Maroc ce genre d'exces n'aurait pas eu lieu!
Pour ce qui est des quads à Skoura, moi je dirais: OUI, d'ailleurs j'en ai fait j'étais avec un loueur hyper sympa, nous avons circulé dans la palmeraie en respectant la population, nous sous somme souvent fait doublés par des cyclomoteurs;
J'ai fait aussi la palmeraie en VTT et là encore pas de problèmes et beaucoup de plaisirs, car il y a de nombreux chemins ou ne peuvent passer ni voitures ni quad!
bonne journée
Bonjour l'amie
* ****Faire du quad dans la palmeraie de Skoura!!!!, vous plaisantez, ****
et non malheureusement , il ne plaisante pas , une nouvelle société francaise, et italienne, a monté des circuits en quad dans cette palmeraie, et comme il y a une clientèle de blaireaux inciviques pour payer , ça marche , j'ai failli , en mars, me faire mettre au fossé alors que je circulais peinard en vélo! plus le quad est règlementé à juste titre en Europe, plus ces pratiques sont exportées.
* ****Faire du quad dans la palmeraie de Skoura!!!!, vous plaisantez, ****
et non malheureusement , il ne plaisante pas , une nouvelle société francaise, et italienne, a monté des circuits en quad dans cette palmeraie, et comme il y a une clientèle de blaireaux inciviques pour payer , ça marche , j'ai failli , en mars, me faire mettre au fossé alors que je circulais peinard en vélo! plus le quad est règlementé à juste titre en Europe, plus ces pratiques sont exportées.
Bonjour,
Du vélo à skoura la semaine prochaine, vous allez avoir chaud...mais vous le savez déjà.
Depuis Skoura vous allez pouvoir rayonner (c'est la saison), vallé du dadès, ouarzazate, oasis de Fint, Aït Ben addou.. mais profitez pour aller dans des palmeraie que la plupart des touristes ignorent. - palmeraie de tidgheste*, 10 km sur la route de demnate : a voir le musée d'hassan, initiative personelle très méritante qui regroupe de nombreux objet de la vie quotidienne des anciens plus des écrits datants de plusieurs siècles conservés dans des roseaux. - palmeraie de tazantoute*, juste avant tabourate qui est à l'embranchement de la route de Marrakech avec celle d'aït Ben Addou. Je vous joint le lien d'un album de quelques photos que j'y avait faites pr une belle soirée d'automne...juste poiur vous faire envie.... Flânerie au soleil couchant dans la palmeraie de tazantoute.
Et là, vous ne risquerez pas de rendontrer de quad....normalement !
Bon séjour Dominique
*ps : renseignements en mp si nécessaire
Du vélo à skoura la semaine prochaine, vous allez avoir chaud...mais vous le savez déjà.
Depuis Skoura vous allez pouvoir rayonner (c'est la saison), vallé du dadès, ouarzazate, oasis de Fint, Aït Ben addou.. mais profitez pour aller dans des palmeraie que la plupart des touristes ignorent. - palmeraie de tidgheste*, 10 km sur la route de demnate : a voir le musée d'hassan, initiative personelle très méritante qui regroupe de nombreux objet de la vie quotidienne des anciens plus des écrits datants de plusieurs siècles conservés dans des roseaux. - palmeraie de tazantoute*, juste avant tabourate qui est à l'embranchement de la route de Marrakech avec celle d'aït Ben Addou. Je vous joint le lien d'un album de quelques photos que j'y avait faites pr une belle soirée d'automne...juste poiur vous faire envie.... Flânerie au soleil couchant dans la palmeraie de tazantoute.
Et là, vous ne risquerez pas de rendontrer de quad....normalement !
Bon séjour Dominique
*ps : renseignements en mp si nécessaire
La passion a ses raisons que la raison n'a pas !
Monsieur
Votre message est purement anti-ecologique pour ne pas dire d´un anti-ecologique qui a pratiqué ce genre á scoura et qui en plus critique la dame.
Ce ne sont pas les francais qui sont responsables de ces activités devastatrices mais
certains francais jmenfoutistes profitant de la faiblesse des marocains dans le domaine de l´ecologie.
Bonjour,
J'ai du mal à vous comprendre, vous qui connaissez très bien le maroc vous savez très bien que depuis plus de vingt ans, il y a des groupes de 4X4 qui traversent le Maroc sans aucun respect pour la population ( souvent même ceux sont des organisations à qui celà ramenent pas mal d'argent!)pas beaucoup de profit pour les Marocains à part manger la poussière!
Pourtant personne ne crie au scandale! car bien contant de trouver un 4X4 pour faire son circuit;
Est ce parce que l'on parle de quad on est obligé d'associer le mot incivique ( à qui je suis d'accord d'associer blaireau), pour chaque activité on retrouve un échantillon de la population....Dont les sectaires et les obtus!
bien cordialement
Bonjour,
j'ai lu que vous voulez creez une activité "d'ULM" à Ouarzazate, (je pense que celà ne va pas plaire à nos amis qui n'aiment pas le quadmais ce n'est pas pour celà que je vous écrie);j'ai des amis qui pratiquent le paramoteur et qui voulaient se rendre à Ouarzazate pour voler, est ce que vous êtes en activité? Ou pouvez vous me dire les démarches qu'ils doivent accomplir.
merci
Bonjour,
* *** Pourtant personne ne crie au scandale! car bien contant de trouver un 4X4 pour faire son circuit; **
Que cherches tu ?? pourquoi m'apostropher ? Lis avant de critiquer !
Je n'arrète pas d' écrire que l'utilisation du 4x4 est totalement inutile sur la plupart des circuits. et pour ma part, au Maroc, je suis un inconditionnel des transports publics, du vélo et de la marche à pied.
La question concernait les quads dans la palmeraie de Skoura, je répond sur les quads dans la palmeraie de Skoura, et je ne vois pas l'utilité de faire des amalgames et des hors sujets, avec le vol à moteur, les hordes de 4x4, le pognon généré, et ses retombées sur les marocains. Ceci peut etre un autre sujet.
* *** Pourtant personne ne crie au scandale! car bien contant de trouver un 4X4 pour faire son circuit; **
Que cherches tu ?? pourquoi m'apostropher ? Lis avant de critiquer !
Je n'arrète pas d' écrire que l'utilisation du 4x4 est totalement inutile sur la plupart des circuits. et pour ma part, au Maroc, je suis un inconditionnel des transports publics, du vélo et de la marche à pied.
La question concernait les quads dans la palmeraie de Skoura, je répond sur les quads dans la palmeraie de Skoura, et je ne vois pas l'utilité de faire des amalgames et des hors sujets, avec le vol à moteur, les hordes de 4x4, le pognon généré, et ses retombées sur les marocains. Ceci peut etre un autre sujet.
Merci, pour vos indications et vos photos, supers.
Je vois que j ai engagé de nombreuses discussions, mais désolée mon ami aime le quad et moi le VTT, et à part Raoux, personne n avait vraiement répondu à ma question, à savoir s'il y avait des loueurs à Skoura!Il m'induique qu'il y en a deux, est ce que quelqu un peut me dire comment les joindre et si l'un des deux est mieux.
merci
Patricia
Bonjour Henri,
c'est gentil de répondre à ma place, mais je peux me débrouiller toute seule!!!
Bonjour,
j'ai lu que vous voulez creez une activité "d'ULM" à Ouarzazate, (je pense que celà ne va pas plaire à nos amis qui n'aiment pas le quadmais ce n'est pas pour celà que je vous écrie);j'ai des amis qui pratiquent le paramoteur et qui voulaient se rendre à Ouarzazate pour voler, est ce que vous êtes en activité? Ou pouvez vous me dire les démarches qu'ils doivent accomplir.
merci
Bonjour :
Concernant la polémique des engins mécaniques : je suis un passionné de sports (activités) mécaniques et reste convaincu qu'une bonne cohabitation est tout à fait possible mais passe par un respect mutuel qui doit être necessairement ordonné par un minimum de réglementation. Les fans de quad ont le droit de vivre. Notre association aéronautique n'est toujours pas en activité mais il est tout à fait possible de voler au Maroc. Concernant le parapente ou paramoteur, les conditions aérologiques particulièrement sévères et changeantes de la région de Ouarzazate en font un spot peu recommandable pour ces engins bien trop légers alors que c'est une plateforme très sportive pour le vol à voile (planeur). Je vous recommande de leur conseiller de se rapprocher des gens qui pratiquent depuis le site d'Aguergour près du lac Lalla takerkoust (prôche de marakech) en tapant "parapente au maroc" sur google et plus particulièrement : Le site de Michel-lacroix sur le parapente au Maroc
Bons vols à eux Bon séjour à vous
Dominique
Bonjour :
Concernant la polémique des engins mécaniques : je suis un passionné de sports (activités) mécaniques et reste convaincu qu'une bonne cohabitation est tout à fait possible mais passe par un respect mutuel qui doit être necessairement ordonné par un minimum de réglementation. Les fans de quad ont le droit de vivre. Notre association aéronautique n'est toujours pas en activité mais il est tout à fait possible de voler au Maroc. Concernant le parapente ou paramoteur, les conditions aérologiques particulièrement sévères et changeantes de la région de Ouarzazate en font un spot peu recommandable pour ces engins bien trop légers alors que c'est une plateforme très sportive pour le vol à voile (planeur). Je vous recommande de leur conseiller de se rapprocher des gens qui pratiquent depuis le site d'Aguergour près du lac Lalla takerkoust (prôche de marakech) en tapant "parapente au maroc" sur google et plus particulièrement : Le site de Michel-lacroix sur le parapente au Maroc
Bons vols à eux Bon séjour à vous
Dominique
La passion a ses raisons que la raison n'a pas !
Bonjour,
* **** je suis un passionné de sports (activités) mécaniques et reste convaincu qu'une bonne cohabitation ...... **** Peut etre un peu moins passionné que toi, j'ai beaucoup de respect pour les sports mécaniques, défenseur et "suiveur" sur le terrain du "vrai" Dakar de ses débuts, et quelques traversées de Sahara. J'ai trop de respect pour les vrais sportifs, pour assimiler ces colonnes bedonnantes , bruyantes et poussièreuses, dans les sentiers qui parcourent cette superbe palmeraie, à un sport.
Il y a tellement de pistes isolées ou l'on gène personne.
* **** je suis un passionné de sports (activités) mécaniques et reste convaincu qu'une bonne cohabitation ...... **** Peut etre un peu moins passionné que toi, j'ai beaucoup de respect pour les sports mécaniques, défenseur et "suiveur" sur le terrain du "vrai" Dakar de ses débuts, et quelques traversées de Sahara. J'ai trop de respect pour les vrais sportifs, pour assimiler ces colonnes bedonnantes , bruyantes et poussièreuses, dans les sentiers qui parcourent cette superbe palmeraie, à un sport.
Il y a tellement de pistes isolées ou l'on gène personne.
Tu as raison cher Henri13, laissons donc tous ces braves gens singlés de vitesse de moteur et d'inventions rocambolestes pourir ce beau pays du maroc comme nous avons laisser faire en France notamment sur la côte d'azur, en montagne en Espagne et un peu partout dans le monde.
Le Jet-ski au bord de la mer, le quad sur les plages où les accidents sont fréquents, le 4x4 hors pistes. Comment réglementer une bande de fous qui ne..... pense qu'à "s'éclater" sottement. Et l'on appelle ça du sport, c'est à mourir de rire ou à pleurer de rage. Et tu te dis amoureux du Maroc!!!
Je remercie au passage Raoulx, homme sage qui sait savourer le pays sans essayer de l'abimer. Et pourtant, lui c'est un vrai sportif.
Je remercie au passage Raoulx, homme sage qui sait savourer le pays sans essayer de l'abimer. Et pourtant, lui c'est un vrai sportif.
Merci Claude de ton soutien. J'espère que nous pourrons encore pendant quelques années profiter de beaux coins encore inconnus de ces "dingues"
Amicalement
Magnifique!, mon mari et moi, nous y retournons plusieurs fois par an. La palmeraie, les sites aux alentours offrent une diversité de paysages éblouissants. La nature y est très belle à toutes les époques de l'année
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I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!